Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, Starphyre said:

Oddly enough, after being locked in HDT ankle chains, saving, exiting, and reloading, the chains appear properly connected. I was going to post a screenie of this, but I can't figure out where skyrim (not steam) keeps it's screenshots. And apparently print screen is kept from storing the image on the clipboard.

yes, that I knew about. ankle chains are the only ones that 'heal' themselves that way. if you remove and put them on again, you'd have to save and load from menu again to have them reconnect again. unlike most SMP issues quicksave/quickload doesn't do the same thing for the chains.

[zarantha]

56 minutes ago, yts1083 said:

Hi, I need some help, I'm running DCL 6.4 SE BETA 2 and have some random CTD issues, usually not long after I load, though it loads correctly and there are times when a couple things can be made. Maybe it's VRAM related, since I run many mods together though my pc should handle it. Then again I'm here asking cause one of the logs shows this:
MorphCache::CacheFile - Failed to load meshes\devious\cursedloot\mxw_catsuit\balboot.tri 
Is that enough for a CTD to happen? How can I remedy it? I think I have all DD stuff up to date with the DD hotfix and the new DCL CBBL files

I use Loot with MO2 and solved any issues they both showed... I don't know maybe I need to start a Wrye Bash file but I don't really know how and since I use 1 mod for each thing (and what I want overwritten later in the queue) I didn't find it necessary. Also I heard TesVEdit might help but not still haven't wrapped my head around that one either. 

Make sure you have DDHOTFIX and that it's installed after you run bodyslide. If you use HDT-SMP, you can grab the HDT patches I posted on the previous page.

[unmog]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

The HDT patches are attempts to get HDT to work. The previous patches (unless you found my old 'DCL-DD-ZaZ HDT-SMP and other patches') simply removed the HDT tags from the nif.  Pfiffy wanted to break out the patches by mod to make it easier to merge them with the originals when we're ready, that's why there's now 3 hdt patches instead of one. The Herectic items are as fixed as I can get them now, so if you use these, you don't need the DDHOTFIX.

 

Facegen files are for the dead imperials in helgen where you find chloe. If you've done that quest already, there's no need to add them in.

 

If all you want is the 8.3 upgrade, then you just need the 8.3 download and the DCL HDT and scripts. The scripts are recompiled to work with skee, so you shouldn't see any nioverride errors for things like the boots. I did it that way so that whenever kimy updates dcl, I don't need to go find and replace the scripts, i just convert the mod to se and let the script patch overwrite dcl.

I guess what Im really asking is for some basic install instructions. Should I uninstall the 8.1 and the 8.2 patch I added before installing 8.3? Or do I just add the 8.3 patch to the previous 8.2? Or do I keep 8.1, remove 8.2 and replace it with 8.3?

Thanks for explaining what the other files do tho. Would I possibly be able to combine all that into one zip file instead of a bunch of separate ones?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, unmog said:

I guess what Im really asking is for some basic install instructions. Should I uninstall the 8.1 and the 8.2 patch I added before installing 8.3? Or do I just add the 8.3 patch to the previous 8.2? Or do I keep 8.1, remove 8.2 and replace it with 8.3?

Thanks for explaining what the other files do tho. Would I possibly be able to combine all that into one zip file instead of a bunch of separate ones?

It's the full 8.3 mod, so 8.1 and the 8.2 upgrade aren't required. With MO, I unchecked the other two instead of uninstalling and installed and checked 8.3 only, but that's more so I could revert back quickly if I needed to. I work in tech support, so a backout plan is always required

 

If  you are using Vortex, I'd disable 8.1 and 8.2 instead of uninstalling, and just install, enable and deploy 8.3. If you run into problems, then just reverse it so 8.3 is disabled and 8.1 and 8.2 are enabled. If you're using NMM, uninstall 8.1 and 8.2 and install 8.3. No quick revert for you.

 

Sure, they can all be combined into one file. Just extract them into a folder and zip it up:

DCL-DD-ZaZ HDT-SMP and other patches -- updated May2019.7z

[Starphyre]

I believe I have the file you just linked installed. If I do, do I need to use the other patches?
 

[MeatSackGamer]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

hmm, dcur_leon_setstage1000Leah.pex. that's not one of the scripts we're touching during the conversion. We only recompile the scripts if the dependency in SE changed. I'll try taking a look at this on the weekend if the 8.3 upgrade doesn't fix it for you.

 

These are the scripts that are edited for SE:

dcur_cursedSlaveBootsScript.pex
dcur_hisecgagscript.pex
dcur_hisecSlaveBootsScript.pex
dcur_lb_RubberBootsScript.pex
dcur_lb_SlaveBootsScript.pex
dcur_RubberBootsScript.pex
dcur_stunSlaveBootsScript.pex

The different code I was referring to was how the older SE v6.4 was rewritten. The majority of the 8.2 files seem to be mostly the same as the oldrim versions I had archived and the new 8.3 with a few tweaks (maybe fixes between them).

 

But, I did finally get around to playing through the Leon quest in SE v8.2 and there is a minor problem with submitting to Leah at the end. Its not gamebreaking per se, but it isn't correct.

 

After the choice regardless of which of the 3 options the obsidian gear is entirely removed piece by piece. In the 'neither' option you are free to go with nothing be reequipped on your character - this is correct or at least passable.

 

Choosing Leon he goes through his dialogs of the rules and such while the pieces come off and when it gets to the obsidian collar it is removed and the slave collar is equipped, the log messages on screen indicate XDFF is starting and Leon is now dominating you - all of this appears to be correct.

 

However choosing Leah most of the same occurs as Leon with the obvious dialog changes as Leon is giving the instructions to you rather than Leah, the obsidian gear is similarly removed however the slave collar is not put on visibly nor does it appear in the inventory as being either equipped or unequipped, the XDFF message and Leah now dominating do appear. Strangely the game proceeds as if it is equipped allowing for the option to steal the key and other such interactions. This is very strange as there doesn't seem to be any reason in the code why it works for Leon but not Leah, and I did try it multiple times so I am confused about this issue.

[Starphyre]

I didn't even get that much, in my playthrough.

 

[Starphyre]

ok

I'd been wanting to ask this, but avoiding it. Now I can't

 

When installing the 8.3 version that zarantha shared, and installing it, vortex is giving me a 'missing master' and saying it needs 'alternative start - Live another life.esp'

 

I've searched many times for the live another life mod, where does one get it?

 

[unmog]

45 minutes ago, Starphyre said:

ok

I'd been wanting to ask this, but avoiding it. Now I can't

 

When installing the 8.3 version that zarantha shared, and installing it, vortex is giving me a 'missing master' and saying it needs 'alternative start - Live another life.esp'

 

I've searched many times for the live another life mod, where does one get it?

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/272

[Starphyre]

AH. Thank you.

 

For some reason I didn't expect it to be on nexus if it used devious devices.

 

As for the Dominant follower questline. 8.3 gave slightly better results when you choose Leon, he gave me different rules, and added more as time went on, which wasn't happening with 8.2. However conversation-wise, my options remained turning over my gold, and offering my body. There was no change when selecting Leah. 

 

I thought that perhaps since I used a save where I had essentially completed Leon's quest, I'd try to start from the very beginning and loaded my breezehome save that I thought was right before starting the Leon quest. I went to the bannered mare and was disappointed to find he had no text to start his quest. I decided to play around with the new working girl aspects of 8.3, and in the middle of doing that, discovered I had already started Leon. So I'm going to have to jump to a save farther back.

 

One bug that may make me restart (I've always considered this playthrough a test run. My char's name is Testa) that I'm not sure is cursed loot related, but it worked fine until I installed cursed loot.  In one of the inns in one of the smaller towns, a guy wanted to brawl me. After I beat his ass, I went to case healing hands on him, and for whatever reason, the whole inn agroed on me. Reloading the save, I found that now whenever I landed my first punch on the guy, he drew his weapon and treated it like a real attack.  (this was some 50+ gameplay hours ago) While messing with the working girl options in the bannered mare, Uthgar the unbroken (who I hadn't brawled yet, because I largely avoided the non-main story events in whiterun) challenged me, and again, as soon as I landed a punch she went weapon agro. With so many things dependant on brawls in the game, I may end this playthrough once the Leah issues get figured out, or, it's stated it won't get figured out for a while, and start what I might say is an actual playthrough.

[Arcticelf]

So I've been jumping back in SE with both feet.  I've been running along fine in my game, murdering wild animals and critters with abandon.  Then I go to walk into a bar to get some mead to quench my thirst and Bamn. CTD.   Repeatable.  First game it was The bee and the Bard, Second game it was Iverstand, third game it was Whiterun itself.  Now i'm randomly hitting a CTD just running around the fair city of Riften.  I have tracked it down to Cursed loot.  6.4.  I think I may have fixed it with the MFG commands from nexus mods.   We will see.

 

However, Now I see that there is a 8.3 conversion   but all this talk of HDT has me worried .  I refuse to get an account on a random chinese website to download HDT and I find myself wondering if you can use 8.3 and others without HDT physics being involved.  I am currently using CBPC for my many physics needs. ?

[zarantha]

20 hours ago, Starphyre said:

I believe I have the file you just linked installed. If I do, do I need to use the other patches?
 

If it's the old one, yes, you need the new all in one I attached to the post or all of the patches I linked to.

The new one is named 'DCL-DD-ZaZ HDT-SMP and other patches -- updated May2019.7z'

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, unmog said:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/272

2 hours ago, Starphyre said:

When installing the 8.3 version that zarantha shared, and installing it, vortex is giving me a 'missing master' and saying it needs 'alternative start - Live another life.esp'

 

I've searched many times for the live another life mod, where does one get it? 

 

 

I have the lal esp in there. if you don't want the lal quest delete or disable the Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp

[zarantha]

@MeatSackGamer @Starphyre

 

So, if you follow the LE threads from these points, it looks like the issue with Leah not just an SE issue.

 

This point in particular is important:

 

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<snipped>

When Leon is finishing up his dialog and telling you that he's handing you over to Leah, he is supposed to be removing all of the obsidian restraints, then adding your new slave collar as the last step. If you click to speed up any of his dialog, there is a pretty good chance that Leah will start adding rules and messing with your outfit before Leon finishes what he is doing, which usually means no collar. If you're extra unlucky, he'll even forget to remove some of the obsidian stuff as well, though Leah might later take that off herself to swap it with something else.

 

Bottom line is once you talk to Leon and choose Leah, just be super patient and let the dialog progress with its own timers. Doing that always avoided any outfit snags from that transition in the dozen or so times I reloaded that whole segment.

[zarantha]

8 minutes ago, Arcticelf said:

So I've been jumping back in SE with both feet.  I've been running along fine in my game, murdering wild animals and critters with abandon.  Then I go to walk into a bar to get some mead to quench my thirst and Bamn. CTD.   Repeatable.  First game it was The bee and the Bard, Second game it was Iverstand, third game it was Whiterun itself.  Now i'm randomly hitting a CTD just running around the fair city of Riften.  I have tracked it down to Cursed loot.  6.4.  I think I may have fixed it with the MFG commands from nexus mods.   We will see.

 

However, Now I see that there is a 8.3 conversion   but all this talk of HDT has me worried .  I refuse to get an account on a random chinese website to download HDT and I find myself wondering if you can use 8.3 and others without HDT physics being involved.  I am currently using CBPC for my many physics needs. ?

Get the DDHOTFIX. have it overwrite the files after running bodyslide.

The Hotfix: https://mega.nz/#!SRJmRagK!tj91HO0PWKoW0KocrfKkI3IZQPxTzvRr4eoMSBfjEcs

 

Or you can grab the HDT files from a LL user named Gromilla. He's usually on the HDT thread here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/68731-hdt-smp-for-sse/page/156/

This is the link to his mediafire, he has it in his signature: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7hbb9ti7yltvt/Skyrim_Stuff

You need 'SMP dll 1_5_73(updated) SSE' from the SMP dll folder. In it are 3 zips for the two dlls and the high heels stuff. If you don't want high heels, you only need the two dlls.

 

[zarantha]

58 minutes ago, Starphyre said:

n one of the inns in one of the smaller towns, a guy wanted to brawl me. After I beat his ass, I went to case healing hands on him, and for whatever reason, the whole inn agroed on me.

This sounds like the old skyrim brawl bug that's been around forever. try this?
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1473

[Arcticelf]

4 minutes ago, zarantha said:

Get the DDHOTFIX. have it overwrite the files after running bodyslide.

The Hotfix: https://mega.nz/#!SRJmRagK!tj91HO0PWKoW0KocrfKkI3IZQPxTzvRr4eoMSBfjEcs

 

Or you can grab the HDT files from a LL user named Gromilla. He's usually on the HDT thread here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/68731-hdt-smp-for-sse/page/156/

This is the link to his mediafire, he has it in his signature: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7hbb9ti7yltvt/Skyrim_Stuff

You need 'SMP dll 1_5_73(updated) SSE' from the SMP dll folder. In it are 3 zips for the two dlls and the high heels stuff. If you don't want high heels, you only need the two dlls.

 

I already have the DDHotfix from when I was troubleshooting my earlier round of crazy crashes.   If that will work I will run with that.

[zarantha]

10 minutes ago, Arcticelf said:

I already have the DDHotfix from when I was troubleshooting my earlier round of crazy crashes.   If that will work I will run with that.

Yeah, that should do it for you. It's what we used to 'fix' the HDT PE stuff that caused CTDs before we started working on converting them to HDT SMP.

[Arcticelf]

Do I need to download any of the other patches?

[Starphyre]

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

Or you can grab the HDT files from a LL user named Gromilla. He's usually on the HDT thread here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/68731-hdt-smp-for-sse/page/156/

This is the link to his mediafire, he has it in his signature: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7hbb9ti7yltvt/Skyrim_Stuff

You need 'SMP dll 1_5_73(updated) SSE' from the SMP dll folder. In it are 3 zips for the two dlls and the high heels stuff. If you don't want high heels, you only need the two dlls.

Heh. Be warned the high heels MCM is apparently in Chinese. All I get are boxes when I look at it.

 

Or maybe it's just me. If I save outdoors my save file names are boxes too.

[Starphyre]

21 hours ago, zarantha said:

I have the lal esp in there. if you don't want the lal quest delete or disable the Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp

I've installed 8.3 and the dd mass file you posted earlier. No lal.esp was installed. Let me look in the archives themselves

 

Edit: Never mind all this. Until I went to install it I wasn't aware how LAL worked.

[llokii70]

There is a file that if you swap it out for the high heels the menu's are in english. Just unzip extract replace file and rezip. After unzipping go into the folder translation and get rid of the file in there, place this one in there and like I said just zip it back up.. Wa La menu's for heels in English. You dont even need to rename it.

 

 

hdtHighHeel_english.txt

[unmog]

Uhm, so I just did the 8.3 new quest where you escort a debtor to the doll maker. I found her in windhelm so just took the boat back to dawnstar. Talked to the dollmaker, nothing. Talked to the debtor and realized I had to talk to her first? So then it teleported me AWAY from the doll maker  into the middle of nowhere. So I saved, started taking her again and she ran off apparently, loaded, and walked the entire way with her backwards. So now were back at the doll maker and I still cant deliver her? Do I have to let her escape and find her again to finish the quest?

Picture. As you can see, there she is, and the doll maker is sitting on the chair in the corner. >.> Not sure I like this quest...

 

Edit: I figured it out after some tampering. I for some reason had to wait in the dollmakers shop for an hour before it registered we made it. Going to leave this here in case someone else has the same problem later.

[zarantha]

20 hours ago, Arcticelf said:

Do I need to download any of the other patches?

You need the scripts at least from DCL HDT and script patch.7z.

The facegen files are cosmetic only and only for the dead imperials in the Chloe quest. Nothing breaks, but the dead imperials will have black faces if you don't install it.

If you aren't going to get the HDT dlls  from either 9dmao or Gromilla you don't need the HDT patches.

If you don't care about the breast rope error when doing a batch build in bodyslide for zaz 8, you don't need the zaz bodyslide breastropeextreme fix. It doesn't prevent everything else from getting built, the issue is it's an incomplete project. there's nothing there for it to build.

[zarantha]

40 minutes ago, unmog said:

Uhm, so I just did the 8.3 new quest where you escort a debtor to the doll maker. I found her in windhelm so just took the boat back to dawnstar. Talked to the dollmaker, nothing. Talked to the debtor and realized I had to talk to her first? So then it teleported me AWAY from the doll maker  into the middle of nowhere. So I saved, started taking her again and she ran off apparently, loaded, and walked the entire way with her backwards. So now were back at the doll maker and I still cant deliver her? Do I have to let her escape and find her again to finish the quest?

Can't seem to find that exact issue although there's been other issues with just bringing her in. Try hitting the girl? can you remove and reequip the restraints?

I haven't played this quest or very many others from DCL yet. too much testing and starting over.

 

You can also try posting in the LE thread. they may have more ideas. In general, the SE thread is going to be primarily for install issues. Quests should work the same between versions, so bug reports and issues related to quests should go there.