Sexlab Survival

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Risamei said:

For those who want to download what I spent my whole day doing then you're welcome too I hope someone else gets

value out of the time i spent or i just wasted alot of time writing this lol 

Thanks.

That's great. I will try it when I make a new game, whenever that is.

 

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

Thanks.

That's great. I will try it when I make a new game, whenever that is.

  

 

very welcome lol

[Monoman1]

15 hours ago, Risamei said:

 

OMG finally I finished!!! I cant believe i wasted my whole day to do this oh jeez well at least i can play skryim now lol

 

For those who want to download what I spent my whole day doing then you're welcome too I hope someone else gets

value out of the time i spent or i just wasted alot of time writing this lol ? (Spoiler Below)

I've an announcement to make. 

Next version of survival I'll be removing half naked cover because it is creating conflicts with other mods. Sorry.

Spoiler

I'm kidding

Nice work. 

Ok I'll stop being an asshole now. 

 

13 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

And when it turns back that way, it turns into a similar kind (light or heavy) of bikini armor instead of the armor you put on.

Maybe but I think this would have to be optional. People will probably want my head if I turned their Ebony dark mail into a thong

13 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I think it would be difficult to implement without a hard DD dependency, so you could create custom devices to replace the armor.

I think just keep it simple. 

Player equips armor while bikini cursed - remove armor to container. StorageUtil add it's form to the assoicated devious device form. 

Player unequips the render device - remove the devious device from inventory and search the container for it's storageutil associated armor from - add it back to the player inventory. 

 

Edit: But I still haven't seen anyone comment on whether they think the current curse is enough?

I mean if I add this then the current curse is kind of obsolete. Unless you don't use devious devices then I'd have to keep the current curse for those people. 

If the current curse is enough then I could keep the whole 'armors transforming into devious devices' for something else. Traps and pitfalls comes to mind. 

13 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Another possible "please wear devices" mechanic would be to stop your license timers running down when you are in sufficient appropriate devices.

That could be tricky to implement. Maybe instead I could have the licence guys offer 'deals' to extend the duration of one of your licences. (Blowjob + cum swallow) = 1 day or something like that. 

13 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

DiD has a rescue scenario. What if SLS could be aware of it and tie that into guards talking about rescues etc.?

So, rescued in DiD - you're required to have extra escorts if you have EFF/AFT - which may also be force-appointed for you, but in any case increase your "minimum followers to leave" value.

Yea might be interesting. How/when then does the minimum requirement decrease back down? Just time-wise I suppose. After one week say. 

I don't use DiD. Do the guards actually rescue you in the scenario? I know my guards do a lot of 'contraband divination' but it might seem pretty odd if you're defeated with nobody about and all of a sudden the whole of skyrim knows about it and wants you to hire another escort. 

13 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Also, I've been thinking about the minimum followers number, and having it in the MCM feels like you're forcing a choice you already made ...

I just think the slider NEEDS to be there. At least for the moment. What if someone was to get stuck in a town where there are no followers available. I remember talking about assigning/hiring random disposable male escorts that you'd need to keep alive. Which is interesting but not something I'm working on right now. 

Perhaps I could add a hardcore style option that can only be set in the alternate start cell for people that want it. 

[tuxagent7]

42 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

If the current curse is enough then I could keep the whole 'armors transforming into devious devices' for something else. Traps and pitfalls comes to mind.

Nice ! More tweaks to that mods is always good.  It's a fun mod

 

44 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

That could be tricky to implement. Maybe instead I could have the licence guys offer 'deals' to extend the duration of one of your licences. (Blowjob + cum swallow) = 1 day or something like that. 

With a check of speech, this would be a fun option to try and get out of the enforcer check once... or you could try and bribe him for him to look the other way.

 

 

[vjnmrf]

Maybe I something did not understand, but when used on horse key E and select *fondle*, the heroine is still first sits on it, and accordingly all coming NPC become hostile

[Monoman1]

13 minutes ago, vjnmrf said:

Maybe I something did not understand, but when used on horse key E and select *fondle*, the heroine is still first sits on it, and accordingly all coming NPC become hostile

Pressing the fondle button shouldn't make you mount the horse. I have no idea what would cause that, it's an unusual problem.

Do you use a horse management mod of some kind? Is it a vanilla horse or one added by another mod? Could I get a papyrus log of that event?

[RetroGray]

16 hours ago, Risamei said:

OMG finally I finished!!! I cant believe i wasted my whole day to do this oh jeez well at least i can play skryim now lol

 

For those who want to download what I spent my whole day doing then you're welcome too I hope someone else gets

value out of the time i spent or i just wasted alot of time writing this lol ? (Spoiler Below)

Thank you for this! I was just about to do the same thing and just quickly checked this thread to see if anyone had advice on the best way to go about it. You just saved me hours.

 

 

Regarding the bikini curse, I'm actually of the opinion that the current implementation is probably a strong enough incentive without the DD transformation. I can see some very irritating scenarios where you equip a piece of armor that you thought you'd added the bikini keyword to, only to find it was a similarly named/looking piece from another armor mod. Having that bit of leeway where the punishment is not immediately severe is nice. Also there are DDs all over my game already, and innumerable ways to get them equipped. It's nice that the bikini armor is its own separate thing. I could see tweaks to the current implementation (maybe a tie-in with MWA where the durability of non-bikini armors decreases much more rapidly) but I think the basic mechanic is good enough and adding DDs into that particular mix might be overkill.

[Monoman1]

35 minutes ago, RetroGray said:

Regarding the bikini curse, I'm actually of the opinion that the current implementation is probably a strong enough incentive without the DD transformation. I can see some very irritating scenarios where you equip a piece of armor that you thought you'd added the bikini keyword to, only to find it was a similarly named/looking piece from another armor mod. Having that bit of leeway where the punishment is not immediately severe is nice. Also there are DDs all over my game already, and innumerable ways to get them equipped. It's nice that the bikini armor is its own separate thing. I could see tweaks to the current implementation (maybe a tie-in with MWA where the durability of non-bikini armors decreases much more rapidly) but I think the basic mechanic is good enough and adding DDs into that particular mix might be overkill.

Yea I think you're right. The reason I'm pushing for opinions is that I use requiem and stamina is ridiculously important in it (can't even cast spells without it really) so it's more than enough in my book but vanilla skyrim would be a different story. 

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, RetroGray said:

Thank you for this! I was just about to do the same thing and just quickly checked this thread to see if anyone had advice on the best way to go about it. You just saved me hours.

You're very welcome ^^ if you manage to find armors from the mod that are invisible (which i highly doubt) i pretty much double check it but if you do just let me know.

 

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

've an announcement to make. 

Next version of survival I'll be removing half naked cover because it is creating conflicts with other mods. Sorry.

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I'm kidding

Nice work. 

Ok I'll stop being an asshole now. 

oh god lol ?dont you dare do that to me ><

As for the bikini curse does it only apply when wearing heavy/light armors? Because I noticed it was applied when i was wearing a heavy helmet with my bikini armor.

[Monoman1]

22 minutes ago, Risamei said:

oh god lol ?dont you dare do that to me ><

As for the bikini curse does it only apply when wearing heavy/light armors? Because I noticed it was applied when i was wearing a heavy helmet with my bikini armor.

I think it applies to to any armor that doesn't have the bikini keyword. So that will include the likes of steel helmets etc. 

I guess boots, gloves and helmet should be exempt... maybe... I'll have to think about it.

Are there helmets in TAWoBA? I can't remember off hand. There are definitely gloves/boots if I remember right.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

think it applies to to any armor that doesn't have the bikini keyword. So that will include the likes of steel helmets etc. 

I guess boots, gloves and helmet should be exempt... maybe... I'll have to think about it.

 Are there helmets in TAWoBA? I can't remember off hand. 

I wouldn't mind an exemption from those things since the bikini armor is low enough in armor compared to the regular armors at least in my game.  TAWoBA has some circlets and masks from what i saw I dont think any of them were head armor though.

 

EDIT: Also the bikini curse i kind of think the bikini curse is a little hardcore for me because i like the bikini armors but i sometimes want to wear the others ones too but the stamina drain is hard to deal with  especially if you're in combat. if i could make a possibly suggestion or idea .

 

Bikini curse idea

as you have min values for speed and weight already maybe if you have say light armor/heavy armor on then a percentage of stamina

so for example:

    Bikini Armor -   normal stamina

    Light Armor -   50% of max stamina and maybe after (10 hours of wearing you cant wear light armor for awhile) have to sleep to be able to wear again

    Heavy Armor - 25% of max stamina and maybe after (5 hours of wearing you cant wear heavy armor for awhile) have to sleep to be able to wear again

 

say you have to wait to wear heavy armor again you can still wear light armor, but if you cant wear light armor it goes without saying you can wear heavy armor.

basically the idea is its to restricting and heavy so its too taxing to keep wearing

[Tenri]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

I think it applies to to any armor that doesn't have the bikini keyword. So that will include the likes of steel helmets etc. 

I guess boots, gloves and helmet should be exempt... maybe... I'll have to think about it.

Are there helmets in TAWoBA? I can't remember off hand. There are definitely gloves/boots if I remember right.

 

There are various parts of helmets, some might even be marked as helmets, but I don't think there are any 'full' helmets, mostly facemasks, circlets, armoured collars, etc.

[Monoman1]

5 hours ago, Risamei said:

EDIT: Also the bikini curse i kind of think the bikini curse is a little hardcore for me because i like the bikini armors but i sometimes want to wear the others ones too but the stamina drain is hard to deal with  especially if you're in combat. if i could make a possibly suggestion or idea .

If this alternate armor you want to wear is appropriately skimpy enough I don't see any reason you shouldn't add the _SLS_BikiniArmor keyword to it as well

 

If it's not skimpy enough then I'm afraid you'll just have to pony up for the full armor licence

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

If this alternate armor you want to wear is appropriately skimpy enough I don't see any reason you shouldn't add the _SLS_BikiniArmor keyword

Oh i have for a couple ^^ but i have i think over 400 armors not including the bikini armors so it would take awhile to get some of them xD

 

I am not sure how the bikini curse works exactly is it always persistent?

[Monoman1]

3 minutes ago, Risamei said:

Oh i have for a couple ^^ but i have i think over 400 armors not including the bikini armors so it would take awhile to get some of them xD

 

I am not sure how the bikini curse works exactly is it always persistent?

If I remember right, it is persistent for the duration of the bikini licence.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Risamei said:

Oh i have for a couple ^^ but i have i think over 400 armors not including the bikini armors so it would take awhile to get some of them xD

If I were you I'd hold off a little on processing all those armors. There might be something on the horizon that can help. 

A more centralized armor description mod that hopefully gains mainstream traction so we can all stop having so many disparate systems. 

[-Ayleth-]

Since the Empire forbids the worshipping of Talos, how about Imperial Enforcers would punish you for wearing an Amulet of Talos? Something degrading and humiliating.

[Monoman1]

41 minutes ago, AkiKay said:

Since the Empire forbids the worshipping of Talos, how about Imperial Enforcers would punish you for wearing an Amulet of Talos? Something degrading and humiliating.

It's a possibility. It's made tricky though by the fact that towns can change allegiance with the civil war though. 

[mercplatypus]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

It's a possibility. It's made tricky though by the fact that towns can change allegiance with the civil war though. 

Would it be easier to attach it to roving Thalmor patrols instead?

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

If I were you I'd hold off a little on processing all those armors. There might be something on the horizon that can help. 

A more centralized armor description mod that hopefully gains mainstream traction so we can all stop having so many disparate systems. 

hehe okay the way i do it anyway is basically play the game normally and when i run into an armor to change i change it right then and there and then keep moving on until i find another armor to change ^^ this is the mod i was talking about https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/7505 it has bikini armors in it too has like over 500 armors

[Lupine00]

18 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I just think the slider NEEDS to be there. At least for the moment. What if someone was to get stuck in a town where there are no followers available.

As I pointed out, if you make it a global, it's easy to set, just ... different ...

 

But I like the other ideas too.

 

The easy answer is "install a follower". What town would you get stuck in with no followers anyway? After purposefully enabling a follower requirement?

 

It would have to be a non-vanilla one, because the vanilla towns with walls and gates also have followers.

[Clea Strange]

the towns outside of the major cities don't have followers as far as I know

[Lupine00]

3 hours ago, Hiderius said:

the towns outside of the major cities don't have followers as far as I know

Or gated exits with a tollkeeper who would stop you leaving unless you meet requirements.

 

So you can't get trapped there due to lack of a follower.

 

 

And even if you are trapped in a city due to having murdered all potential followers, you probably have a sneak out facility installed - or else you can't dodge tolls, which is half the fun.

[ralphk11]

13 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

If I remember right, it is persistent for the duration of the bikini licence.

If you have bought a bikini licence then you get the curse but it is only active if you don't have an armour licence.  If say, you put your amour licence in a chest, which case you get a message saying it's expired then the bikini curse is applied and you get a message saying so.  When you take your amour licence back then the bikini curse is removed.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, ralphk11 said:

If you have bought a bikini licence then you get the curse but it is only active if you don't have an armour licence.  If say, you put your amour licence in a chest, which case you get a message saying it's expired then the bikini curse is applied and you get a message saying so.  When you take your amour licence back then the bikini curse is removed.

That sounds right.... right? If you've bought the full armor licence then you shouldn't be penalized. Generally the armor licence will override the bikini licence. 

 

Side question at everyone regarding SL Defeat. 

You know when a defeat scene ends you get up and run away and there's the sound of the player in pain? What is that sound? What is it from?

Defeat doesn't have any sounds so it's either vanilla or from another mod.

 

9 hours ago, mercplatypus said:

Would it be easier to attach it to roving Thalmor patrols instead?

Maybe. I'd have to look at it. There's a minor issue I've thought of with this though. There's a mini quest to return rogvirs amulet of talos to.... someone, can't remember. But it's a quest item = shouldn't really be removed and can't be removed by the player so whatever the consequences of the scenario is (I was thinking just a 4p gang bang + taking the amulet would be enough) it'd keep happening until you completed that quest and could get rid of the amulet.