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HGEC lowerbody Gape project.

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DogOnPorch

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1 minute ago, fejeena said:

HGEC S Lower the SetBody reloaded version

SB Reloaded HGEC S Lower.7z

 

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The Texture:

Is the whole Body darker ? also hand and head?  If only the body and feet is darker then it is the new normal map. But if the whole body is darker.... I don't know. A sunburn? Carotene ointment?

 

I'll try those when I get back. Wife needs a lift to the office. I'm perplexed, too...perhaps I made a simple error. I will double check when I return...give me an hour. 

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DogOnPorch

DogOnPorch

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Okay...mystery solved.

 

It was all in the strange difference between naming a material skin and naming it something else...in my case altskin.xx (where xx = the alternate skin folder I'm using...not characters>imperial>female...the normal path). 

 

All the numbers were exactly the same...but materials named 'skin' do have some extra properties attached that other materials do not...interesting. If all the textures draw from the same altskin-folder, one doesn't notice.

 

Learn something new everyday...

fejeena

fejeena

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Yes material must be "skin" and NiTriShape/NiTriStrips must be "foot" for upper, lower and foot nif. Or "Hand" for hand nif and "Tail" for the tail nif.

Then the game use the race textures path in the esm/esp  ( and the textures path in the mesh is does not matter)

 

Roberts male use only one texture: FootMale.dds

So all nif files ( upper, lower, hand,foot, tail ) must have "Skin" and "Foot".

DogOnPorch

DogOnPorch

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51 minutes ago, fejeena said:

Yes material must be "skin" and NiTriShape/NiTriStrips must be "foot" for upper, lower and foot nif. Or "Hand" for hand nif and "Tail" for the tail nif.

Then the game use the race textures path in the esm/esp  ( and the textures path in the mesh is does not matter)

 

Roberts male use only one texture: FootMale.dds

So all nif files ( upper, lower, hand,foot, tail ) must have "Skin" and "Foot".

 

Indeed. This effect goes unnoticed if one sticks to using SetBody on a human PC or human NPCs. But zap a Khajiit with it and whoa! :D

TheRealMissAmber

TheRealMissAmber

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This is funny to read.. I thought I grabbed the set body 2ch reloaded.

 

Should I get a newer version of set body before I continue Fejeena?

 

Also I have downtime until I hear back from Tolerance.

 

Should we go over Anal Gape again?

 

I'm not doing anything with seams to materials and it would be counter intuitive for me to mess with HGEC body normals.

 

I try to only edit her No No region and UV, weld UVs remove my doubles and get out as fast as possible before I mess anything up.

 

That's 1 reason I made "Plug and Play" vaginas. It puts hard limits on what I can alter and transfers easy to other bodies.

 

If you are having a foot/leg seam issue I believe it's due to a mismatched rig or Anu and Padome are fighting over Nirn again and the fabric of Oblivion is unraveling.

DogOnPorch

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1 hour ago, TheRealMissAmber said:

This is funny to read.. I thought I grabbed the set body 2ch reloaded.

 

Should I get a newer version of set body before I continue Fejeena?

 

Also I have downtime until I hear back from Tolerance.

 

Should we go over Anal Gape again?

 

I'm not doing anything with seams to materials and it would be counter intuitive for me to mess with HGEC body normals.

 

I try to only edit her No No region and UV, weld UVs remove my doubles and get out as fast as possible before I mess anything up.

 

That's 1 reason I made "Plug and Play" vaginas. It puts hard limits on what I can alter and transfers easy to other bodies.

 

If you are having a foot/leg seam issue I believe it's due to a mismatched rig or Anu and Padome are fighting over Nirn again and the fabric of Oblivion is unraveling.

 

It would be nice to get all the bodies missing anatomy done proper. :) Nice to meet you, btw...where are my manners?

 

I imagine the Tamago (etc) users would want one for at least the bigger pregnant lass...done up Amber-style. I'm working on a pregnant hooker (the stage 3 one from PSE) for use as an NPC that could also use equipment...posted some pics earlier. She leaks...like my first wife. (drum rim-shot)

DogOnPorch

DogOnPorch

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Anal gape...?

 

Always popular. Both my wife and I are impressed at the detail on the woo-woo---pee-hole and all. 

 

(Besides...Redguards have to be able to ask: Where are all the Breton chicks at??? and get results. :grin: )

TheRealMissAmber

TheRealMissAmber

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I sat with a mirror looking at my own cha cha! I had to stand up a few times... lol

 

Gosh thank you. I know it's bright inside her vag. 

 

If I use the normal I made with blender that don't happen. If I use the one made from the texture it's bright.

 

I did make a highly experimental 3rd normal of the texture normal made transparent and layered over the blender normal. The effects to this day unknown.

fejeena

fejeena

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There is no wrong or right HGEC version.  No wrong and right SetBody or Body replacer. Only the HGEC  bodies are different.

As I said before about 50% of the armor-clothes Mods use the one version and 50% the other.
 
Here at LL many people use SetBody reloaded...but also many use HGEC Body with BBB v1.12 as body replacer.
HGEC Body with BBB v1.12  and LAPF are the "old" HGEC ( also the SetBody version I use: SetBody 2ch-Edition_TSpec )
SetBody reloaded and Apachii_Goddess_Store are the "new" HGEC
 
The material  and NiTriShape/NiTriStrips settings are right in all body and SetBody mods. DogOnPorch changed it in his meshes, your meshes are fine, Amber.
 
So choose the version you use in your game and make the gape meshes. I hope Tolerance can help with a "NO-shift and distortion around the pussy" mesh.
If you have finished all HGEC lowerbodies I will use Seam Mender and convert the lowerbodies to the other HGEC-version.  Then people can download the version they want.
 
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Not sure if we really need anal gape meshes. There are the old anal gape Mods.  And you are right , there are too many changes you have to make with the body.

Why are the butt cheeks spread? Permanent spread?  Normally the player should have his hands always on butt cheeksand spred them  :D

 

But if you need more work....do it.
 
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The new normal Map I made is less shining.
You can recolor the pussy part of the texture before you use the normal Map tool. Think you must make it darker.
DogOnPorch

DogOnPorch

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Re: gape...agreed...the current one looks pretty great...and looks like the girl spent too long at the horse stables. It's a so-so fit as a lower body, though...though I still use it on some bodies. Just a cute asshole would be a step forward from the rear forget the extreme gape...there's not much if anything there now....blank on many textures.

 

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tolerance

tolerance

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22 hours ago, TheRealMissAmber said:

Okay here they are. If you find a way to get these decent on UVs I can go back and start over with mesh rigging. Minor set back but the reason is well worth it.

 

https://mega.nz/#!AeZUAYAY!dkgk5dvMgh7aBbiVDgDDY_KNPZOaPRcxlquPyrjYvdM

 

Edit: I totally forgot. When you open the "Normal HGEC" you will see a floating triangle hanging out inside her left pussy lip. I have been meaning to get rid of that. Sorry, yes I know it's there

ok, try this: amber mesh core less stretch.zip

 

hopefully should be fine, if you have a  "normal" inconsistanxcy, that's common to my 3d program, try :

1. rightclick>mesh>update tangent space 2. rightclick>mesh> smooth normals (60/0.0010 are   the default settings i think) 3. rightclick>mesh>update tangent space again

 

*edit* kind of rushed, didnt notice a floating triangle, didn't update tangent spaces for the first time to get NiBinaryExtraData added

fejeena

fejeena

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The new nif files:

The distortion above the pussy is gone, no pubic hair distortion. Good !

 

But the shift around the pussy is still there.

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There is still the shift

abc10.jpg

 

I zoomed the UV map and noticed that there are two striped , separated , only connected at the top.

So a part of the texture, between the strip and the body is not used. So there will be a break in the visible texture.

And the size / stretching of the stripes does not match with the body UV map left and right, So you have the shift ( the yellow-purple shift in the pic above)

abc11.jpg

abc13.jpg

 

Here with my imperial texture.

abc12.jpg

 

 

 

TheRealMissAmber

TheRealMissAmber

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I left that gap there on purpose. But I can mend it EASY. I just thought the fold was very dark and it looked kinda icky.

 

Anyways I grabbed the new meshs and they look great.

 

@fejeena

I am making you an Arrow

 

Is baby Wind Lance

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Must not touch yet still very hot in forge.

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Sorry guys I needed a nap.

 

Let me get some coffee and get into it ;)

fejeena

fejeena

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The gap between the stripes and the body is not bad if you retexture/rework the texture.

So it is easier to separate the "normal" skin and the pussy skin ( clit hood, inner labia ).

The break/gap is in the recess.
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But that is only good for people who can work with PhotoShop, Paint.net,... People who can retexture the texture they want to use.

But if people can't do it they will have the visible gap. ( ok with some textures you can hardly see it )

 

Copy the inner pussy part in the texture they use is easy (especially if you upload a layer texture )

 

I have no problems with the gap, I will rework my textures. The big "bad" problem is solved, the distortion above the pussy. Now textures with pubic hair can be used.

 

TheRealMissAmber

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Okay let me just say this so I know I said it and it's out in the open. 

 

Fejeena I respect your opinion on this and if you are happy I am happy.

 

The fact that you would take time to even acknowledge my project means a lot to me and even more because you have been such a huge part of it.

 

It seems like I can't go to any thread without seeing you there and you are a huge part of this community.

 

So if everything looks good to you I will continue.

 

I have mad love for everyone who has been a part of this project so far and there may be more to come because this can still turn into a lot more.

 

You guys have shown me so much. Most of all that I was not ready to take this project on alone like I thought. 

 

I think we are past the final speed bump

 

My skill set gtew by a lot because of this project and I hope someone finds it and puts it into a whole new mod one day.

 

I think it would be so cool to download a new Lovers extension one day and see (our) work in it

TheRealMissAmber

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HGEC bodies, wide open vagina...

 

There not a lot to say.

 

It's getting there.

 

It's kinda repetitive now and the mystery is gone.

 

Like after you clear a dungeon, it's kinda meh now.

 

After this I need to find something very demented to work on.

 

Open to suggestions

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