Being a Cow

[Dale_Gregory]

9 hours ago, botticelli said:

normally, you'd just drop the .7z archive into Vortex Mods bottom section and let it do the install. Just make sure, you don't have any leftovers from earlier versions lying around.

 

5 hours ago, Dale_Gregory said:

I've made sure all the other versions I've downloaded in the past are removed and cleared. Especially since I had to redownload Skyrim after my old hard drive died. And every time i drag and drop the files into vortex it CTD. So when I get out of my class tonight ill try it again.

So I just got around to trying to install only BAC and it was the first time I got no message saying ZAZ missing master files. However it still immediately CTD right after the Bethesda logo finishes its animation. I'm still really stumped on what to do about it. 

[MysticDaedra]

11 hours ago, alexsl said:

@MysticDaedra What version of ZAZ are you using Mystic since i know you are on SE as well ?

I use the latest version of ZaZ 8+. You can find the download links here:

 

[botticelli]

6 hours ago, Dale_Gregory said:

 

So I just got around to trying to install only BAC and it was the first time I got no message saying ZAZ missing master files. However it still immediately CTD right after the Bethesda logo finishes its animation. I'm still really stumped on what to do about it. 

You'll need these masters...

...plus MilkModEconomy, but that is an esp and will not quit on you when starting Skyrim. Optionally Q2C's invetnroy functions (they really speed things up).

[alexsl]

@MysticDaedra and @botticelli Ah well in that case thats what i had before Boticelli told me to get the other one. because i have a black screen problem

I had that one to be exact : ZaZ Animation Pack+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+SEREV3

 

"Ok i got further. Now im after mark sold me i was reading the dialogue that the guy who wanted to trow and auction and click on "mmmmh..." then black screen. Waiting doesnt do anything and it does that everytime. Is it because there is nothing after ?"

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 11, 2022 by alexsl

[botticelli]

12 hours ago, Dale_Gregory said:

I've made sure all the other versions I've downloaded in the past are removed and cleared. Especially since I had to redownload Skyrim after my old hard drive died. And every time i drag and drop the files into vortex it CTD. So when I get out of my class tonight ill try it again.

If Vortex crashes out, you probably have wrong or missing directory settings. I just dropped the archive into my Vortex and it looks like this:

Edited March 11, 2022 by botticelli

[botticelli]

4 hours ago, alexsl said:

@MysticDaedra and @botticelli Ah well in that case thats what i had before Boticelli told me to get the other one. because i have a black screen problem

I had that one to be exact : ZaZ Animation Pack+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+SEREV3

 

"Ok i got further. Now im after mark sold me i was reading the dialogue that the guy who wanted to trow and auction and click on "mmmmh..." then black screen. Waiting doesnt do anything and it does that everytime. Is it because there is nothing after ?"

 

 

 

 

 

After the scene in the cellar, you're supposed to be paraded through Riften and then brought to the auction. When the screen goes black after the dialogue, quest bac_capturedcow2 should have stage 60 (sqs bac_capturedcow2), because stage 60 starts the next scene. If it is somehow not set, try setstage bac_capturedcow2 60. I found several race conditions in that cellar scene, which I can hopefully fix with the next update. E. g. if you're between cow stage 10 and 15 when you enter here, the script will bypass a stage and race you right to the end of the scene where you can get stuck like in you case. Below cow stage 10 this may still happen upon some random value. What's more, there are two conditions to set stage 30. As far as I figured it out, this should happen at the end of the dialogue with the master. But, the other hunter in the room will set it upon ending his first phrase "What now". This will start parts of the scene prematurely and can also possibly end in your problem.

[Dale_Gregory]

9 hours ago, botticelli said:

If Vortex crashes out, you probably have wrong or missing directory settings. I just dropped the archive into my Vortex and it looks like this:

I should have clarified, my Skyrim CTD not vortex. Vortex shows everything as being in order but before the game even loads up it CTD.

[Dale_Gregory]

10 hours ago, botticelli said:

You'll need these masters...

...plus MilkModEconomy, but that is an esp and will not quit on you when starting Skyrim. Optionally Q2C's invetnroy functions (they really speed things up).

So I'm not very knolegable on Skyrim modding, how do I get to TES5Edit? I know I have all the prerequisites but its almost like I'm missing an important step or something. 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Dale_Gregory

[alexsl]

8 hours ago, botticelli said:

After the scene in the cellar, you're supposed to be paraded through Riften and then brought to the auction. When the screen goes black after the dialogue, quest bac_capturedcow2 should have stage 60 (sqs bac_capturedcow2), because stage 60 starts the next scene. If it is somehow not set, try setstage bac_capturedcow2 60. I found several race conditions in that cellar scene, which I can hopefully fix with the next update. E. g. if you're between cow stage 10 and 15 when you enter here, the script will bypass a stage and race you right to the end of the scene where you can get stuck like in you case. Below cow stage 10 this may still happen upon some random value. What's more, there are two conditions to set stage 30. As far as I figured it out, this should happen at the end of the dialogue with the master. But, the other hunter in the room will set it upon ending his first phrase "What now". This will start parts of the scene prematurely and can also possibly end in your problem.

i have no idea where to check the stage either way but even after inputing setstage i get to see something during when they say "oh the drug stop being effective" now.....after that i eventually get to the option yady yada paul finally buy me and theeeen back to the black we go

Edited March 12, 2022 by alexsl

[botticelli]

6 hours ago, alexsl said:

i have no idea where to check the stage either way but even after inputing setstage i get to see something during when they say "oh the drug stop being effective" now.....after that i eventually get to the option yady yada paul finally buy me and theeeen back to the black we go

After Paul buys you, you're supposed to be moved to Whiterun stables along with Paul. That is stage 80, so a setstage bac_capturedcow2 80 could help.I don't like those "fade to black" moments either. I also discovered that depending on your MME settings this scene can break. If you have set your gushing setting in MME to value high enough to get you milked dry before the scene ends, the pump will release you and the scene will not continue. So, upon moving the character intothe cellar, I'll disable MME gushing ?

9 hours ago, Dale_Gregory said:

So I'm not very knolegable on Skyrim modding, how do I get to TES5Edit? I know I have all the prerequisites but its almost like I'm missing an important step or something. 

You don't need TES5Edit. I only posted the picture to show the dependency tree. Can you post some papyrus.log from your crash?

Edited March 12, 2022 by botticelli

[botticelli]

10 hours ago, Dale_Gregory said:

So I'm not very knolegable on Skyrim modding, how do I get to TES5Edit? I know I have all the prerequisites but its almost like I'm missing an important step or something. 

just one update: I got Skyrim to CTD on me on load after installing the newest enbhost.exe. Turns out I had to revert to version 0.467 to work. Do you have enb (even the WrappenVersion) installed?

[Dale_Gregory]

9 minutes ago, botticelli said:

just one update: I got Skyrim to CTD on me on load after installing the newest enbhost.exe. Turns out I had to revert to version 0.467 to work. Do you have enb (even the WrappenVersion) installed?

I do not have any ENB's installed since they are extra work. I will try to grab a papyrus screenshot if I can get one.

[Dale_Gregory]

26 minutes ago, botticelli said:

just one update: I got Skyrim to CTD on me on load after installing the newest enbhost.exe. Turns out I had to revert to version 0.467 to work. Do you have enb (even the WrappenVersion) installed?

Here is the log that came up in papyrus,

 

[03/12/2022 - 02:30:00AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[03/12/2022 - 02:30:00AM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[03/12/2022 - 02:30:00AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[03/12/2022 - 02:30:00AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
 

I don't know how useful that is but I hope it helps.

[alexsl]

1 hour ago, botticelli said:

After Paul buys you, you're supposed to be moved to Whiterun stables along with Paul. That is stage 80, so a setstage bac_capturedcow2 80 could help.I don't like those "fade to black" moments either. I also discovered that depending on your MME settings this scene can break. If you have set your gushing setting in MME to value high enough to get you milked dry before the scene ends, the pump will release you and the scene will not continue. So, upon moving the character intothe cellar, I'll disable MME gushing ?

You don't need TES5Edit. I only posted the picture to show the dependency tree. Can you post some papyrus.log from your crash?

the set the stage 80 did nothing, but 100 did transport me to the stable. But speaking to paul does nothing and looking at my PC i feel like she should be able to get hoove and something on her hand. In the quest departement its back to Hammerheart, Cows tears is done.

 

[botticelli]

42 minutes ago, alexsl said:

the set the stage 80 did nothing, but 100 did transport me to the stable. But speaking to paul does nothing and looking at my PC i feel like she should be able to get hoove and something on her hand. In the quest departement its back to Hammerheart, Cows tears is done.

 

The tats do not display correctly on the body. It looks like you do not have enough overlay slots enabled in niverride.ini (at least 30 for body, 20 for face, hands, feet each).

[botticelli]

1 hour ago, Dale_Gregory said:

Here is the log that came up in papyrus,

 

[03/12/2022 - 02:30:00AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[03/12/2022 - 02:30:00AM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[03/12/2022 - 02:30:00AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[03/12/2022 - 02:30:00AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
 

I don't know how useful that is but I hope it helps.

That is unrelated to BAC. There are no ingredients in this mod, sorry.

[alexsl]

20 minutes ago, botticelli said:

The tats do not display correctly on the body. It looks like you do not have enough overlay slots enabled in niverride.ini (at least 30 for body, 20 for face, hands, feet each).

You are saying that but im not sure where do i change such thing =/

but also that doesnt change that paul doesnt want to do any update on me again.

Edited March 12, 2022 by alexsl

[Dale_Gregory]

Do you have any idea as to what might cause that, because this problem is pretty common among a lot of mods that I don't download right. For example, I had tried to get S.L.U.T.S redux  and went through all the comments to make sure I had the newest version and all it would ever do is CTD before ever getting past the Bethesda Logo. If you can help it would be much appreciated.

[frankenara15]

Is there a console command where you can set the transformation stage of yourself or a npc to a specific stage?

[drgnbzfan84]

On 3/9/2022 at 3:30 AM, botticelli said:

did ypu clean out all the potentially existing old scripts first? This version comes with a bsa archive, but any existing old scripts (data/scripts/bac*.pex, data/scripts/qf_bac*.pex, data/scripts/sf_bac*.pex and a lot of TIF_*-scripts I cannot name in detail, but beware: only some of those relate to BaC, not all of them) may cause conflict. Some pages back someone posted a cleanup batch program, you might want to look that up.

well im still learning about all of this it took me awhile to get version i have working with visuals but i have orginal being a cow being a cow tats BAC upgrade 1.9a and bac update 2 also have improved udders and i had to keep racemenu v 3 4 4

[MysticDaedra]

4 hours ago, Dale_Gregory said:

Do you have any idea as to what might cause that, because this problem is pretty common among a lot of mods that I don't download right. For example, I had tried to get S.L.U.T.S redux  and went through all the comments to make sure I had the newest version and all it would ever do is CTD before ever getting past the Bethesda Logo. If you can help it would be much appreciated.

The most common cause of a CTD on loading of the game is missing masters or a borked load order. If you are new to modding, I highly recommend following Lexy's LOTD guide, specifically the Finishing Line: https://lexyslotd.com/guide/finishing-line/

[MysticDaedra]

And here's the converted SSE version of 1.9C5, once again including the converted Bodyslide meshes for RaceMenu HH support! Apologies for the delay, senior year of uni has been hell. Enjoy.

235636934_BeingaCow1.9C5SSE.7z

[botticelli]

20 hours ago, alexsl said:

You are saying that but im not sure where do i change such thing =/

but also that doesnt change that paul doesnt want to do any update on me again.

There's a file data\SKSE\plugins\nioverride.ini. You need to change several settings in there for any serious number of Tats to appear correctly. I attached my settings, so you can compare. As for the quest: Since you forwarded it to stage 100, it has ended and Paul triggers at stage 80 which was probably bypassed. The next quest that Paul starts would be "Intro into being a cow". For the console:

• startquest bac__quest_neutral_introduction
• setstage bac__quest_neutral_introduction 10

Also you need to kickstart Hammerheart which you can do in BAC MCM Debug page (Hammerheart 100->0, then exit menu, then enter again and set Hammerheart 100->20).

nioverride.ini

[botticelli]

14 hours ago, frankenara15 said:

Is there a console command where you can set the transformation stage of yourself or a npc to a specific stage?

There is a Levelup Potion (ttry help bac_levelup in the console). As for reverting back to a previous stage: No there isn't.

[drgnbzfan84]

On 3/9/2022 at 3:30 AM, botticelli said:

did ypu clean out all the potentially existing old scripts first? This version comes with a bsa archive, but any existing old scripts (data/scripts/bac*.pex, data/scripts/qf_bac*.pex, data/scripts/sf_bac*.pex and a lot of TIF_*-scripts I cannot name in detail, but beware: only some of those relate to BaC, not all of them) may cause conflict. Some pages back someone posted a cleanup batch program, you might want to look that up.

do u mean turn off my perivious mods well i have being a cow original i have bac1.8pre3, and bac tats,bac update 1.9a, abd bac update 2 was tricky betting this to work