PAH - And you get a slave! (LE/SE)

[DonQuiWho]

22 minutes ago, rashken said:

I think so. Ended unistalling DOM, and now I can sell the slaves, but obviously enlaving people es harder since I don't have the press H while sneaking behind.

Used Vortex to manage and put DOM as Before AYGAS

 

That might not be right?

 

From the Troll himself

 

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jan 3

 Thanks. I'll check the aygas interface with your settings and hopefully it will be corrected in next version. That means in a week or so.

 

Meanwhile make sure your load order and plugin load order is the following: pah, then aygas, then HSH (or not if you don't want HSH) and last DoM.

 

With domaygas.esp patch coming from the DoM directory. This past point is very important otherwise your slave will have 0 value.
Edited January 3 by TrollAutokill

 

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DQW

[rashken]

Ok, I had that wrong, now it works. The ony thing I need now is a way to bypass the "Im not interested" thing. Since I don't really want to play the training minigame, just wanna distribute slaves for fun.

For example I captured Sigrid in Riverwood and tried to sell her to Alvor. But he wasn't interested.

Is there an easy way to make that all NPCs accept slaves?

 

Also, a way to slaves to not be angry. Like a more consensual submission.

Edited September 17, 2024 by rashken

[DonQuiWho]

2 hours ago, rashken said:

Ok, I had that wrong, now it works. The ony thing I need now is a way to bypass the "Im not interested" thing. Since I don't really want to play the training minigame, just wanna distribute slaves for fun.

For example I captured Sigrid in Riverwood and tried to sell her to Alvor. But he wasn't interested.

Is there an easy way to make that all NPCs accept slaves?

 

Also, a way to slaves to not be angry. Like a more consensual submission.

 

Sorry, can't help you there really, other than suggest you activate all the cheats in AYGAS and see if that helps

 

Alternatively, t/f them into DOM, set all the training speeds to as high as they will go, enslave a few trolls who you can 'have a serious chat with', make those your DOM henchmen, and leave some slaves in their care for a few days, training them in the sexual arts.  That trains slaves in everything - seems to be in a set sequence  - if you leave them for long enough, and everyone will want to buy them  😋

 

Hope that helps

 

DQW

[rashken]

With trolls you mean literally trolls? the monster?

Ok, I enslaved them, but I don't know how to do the other part. Making them my henchmen.

Edited September 17, 2024 by rashken

[DonQuiWho]

8 hours ago, rashken said:

With trolls you mean literally trolls? the monster?

Ok, I enslaved them, but I don't know how to do the other part. Making them my henchmen.

 

If you enslaved them thro' PAH, transfer them to DOM, using the dialogue ablot giving them 'the full experience'

 

Once you have done that, or if they are already in DOM, go to the 'let's have a serious chat' option

 

There are two similar questions as to what sort of slave they are and, as I can't  remember which does the trick, so ask them both

 

Then do the 'serious chat' dialogue again. 

 

Should be an option to ask if the would like to keep slaves for you, and the follow up dialogue says something like 'you would be looking after slaves'

 

They should not turn into 'Henchman' on your DOM MCM Slaves listing

 

Then in dialogue with the troll, select the 'about the  slaves' and tell the troll you want them to 'look after some slaves' for you and they will ask which ones

 

You then talk to DOM slaves tou want troll to train and tell them to 'report to their new trainer'

 

Then talk to the troll again under the 'about the slaves' dialogue annd it will ask 'what do you want done with them?' and you reply, selecting from the options given what you want the troll to do

 

Then you can leave them to it for a couple of days and come back and check the slave stats to see how they hasve progressed

 

Quick points

 

- best to set the troll's base as a fixed point rather than dragging thetroll + slaves around after you

- If you want quick training, turn up the training speed in the DOM MCM to highest value

- for the sexual skills training, make sure you have some SLAL animation packs with troll animations included and registered in Sexlab, eg Bilyy, Funnybiz, Anubs etc

- to get the most from those, set DOM training sex MCM option for 'aggressive sex' as 'ON', ie tick the box

 

Stand back and watch.  With the right animations, trolls can be very creative and their regenerative powers are extraordinary 😛

 

Finally, if you use 'Fill her Up' and don't want your slaves to look like balloons, turn down the inflation value associated with trolls.  They can fill up any slave in next to no time

 

Hope that helps

 

DQW

 

[rashken]

Ok, trying that. I already have the two trolls from Graywinter Watch training slaves

[rashken]

Well, all the training worked, for the Slaves to be more useful. But again the option of selling them to other NPCs dissapeared again. The "Ever dreamed to having a servant" is no more. u.u

And I had another problem. Tried to rebuy one slave (one of the ones I could sell) but when did, the only interaction I had with it was scolding for trying to escape and then a "..." and nothing more, no matter how many times I tried to speak with it.

Edited September 18, 2024 by rashken

[Ixmore]

Apparently Ambient Slaves is now up for adoption and I wonder how well it could be integrated into AYGAS well it least the buildings. Looking at the pictures at pictures, I feel it would be a better way to buy and sell slaves there.

[2717173928]

2024 年 1 月 31 日上午 6:01，Archon459 说道：

偶然发现一个奇怪的问题。结果确实没什么，但仍然令人担忧，因为我没有每个地点拥有的奴隶的清单。

 

我感觉缺了这一点。另外，“甜蜜之家”有一个选项，您可以将有问题的奴隶转移到天堂大厅 PAHE，以便对该奴隶进行调整或做一些事情。 AYGAS 目前没有这样的选项。

奴隶失名的问题解决了吗？我刚刚就出现这个问题了 

[rashken]

On 9/17/2024 at 7:42 AM, DonQuiWho said:

 

If you enslaved them thro' PAH, transfer them to DOM, using the dialogue ablot giving them 'the full experience'

 

Once you have done that, or if they are already in DOM, go to the 'let's have a serious chat' option

 

There are two similar questions as to what sort of slave they are and, as I can't  remember which does the trick, so ask them both

 

Then do the 'serious chat' dialogue again. 

 

Should be an option to ask if the would like to keep slaves for you, and the follow up dialogue says something like 'you would be looking after slaves'

 

They should not turn into 'Henchman' on your DOM MCM Slaves listing

 

Then in dialogue with the troll, select the 'about the  slaves' and tell the troll you want them to 'look after some slaves' for you and they will ask which ones

 

You then talk to DOM slaves tou want troll to train and tell them to 'report to their new trainer'

 

Then talk to the troll again under the 'about the slaves' dialogue annd it will ask 'what do you want done with them?' and you reply, selecting from the options given what you want the troll to do

 

Then you can leave them to it for a couple of days and come back and check the slave stats to see how they hasve progressed

 

Quick points

 

- best to set the troll's base as a fixed point rather than dragging thetroll + slaves around after you

- If you want quick training, turn up the training speed in the DOM MCM to highest value

- for the sexual skills training, make sure you have some SLAL animation packs with troll animations included and registered in Sexlab, eg Bilyy, Funnybiz, Anubs etc

- to get the most from those, set DOM training sex MCM option for 'aggressive sex' as 'ON', ie tick the box

 

Stand back and watch.  With the right animations, trolls can be very creative and their regenerative powers are extraordinary 😛

 

Finally, if you use 'Fill her Up' and don't want your slaves to look like balloons, turn down the inflation value associated with trolls.  They can fill up any slave in next to no time

 

Hope that helps

 

DQW

 

 

One question about this. The suggestion of using trolls is because they do their work faster? Or there is other reason?

[DonQuiWho]

7 minutes ago, rashken said:

 

One question about this. The suggestion of using trolls is because they do their work faster? Or there is other reason?

 

Not really. 

 

1 - They are fast workers because, as life is too short, I have the training speed dials set fairly high

2 - I also just have a quirky sense of humour

 

They do, as they tell me quite regularly, seem to get a lot of job satisfaction tho, as their very enthusiastic performances tend to confim 😉

 

DQW

 

 

Edited September 27, 2024 by DonQuiWho

[rashken]

2 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

 

Not really. 

 

1 - They are fast workers because, as life is too short, I have the training speed dials set fairly high

2 - I also just have a quirky sense of humour

 

They do, as they tell me quite regularly, seem to get a lot of job satisfaction tho, as their very enthusiastic performances tend to confim 😉

 

DQW

 

 

So If I use like a Bandit Chieftain, the result in time will be the same?

[DonQuiWho]

34 minutes ago, rashken said:

So If I use like a Bandit Chieftain, the result in time will be the same?

 

Yes.... but they can't dance like @TrollAutokill can

 

(posts almost immediately passim apply 😉)

 

DQW

 

 

 

Edited September 27, 2024 by DonQuiWho

[McLovin3]

Its been busy for me lately so I wanted to post this Q since this has been recently found out, so i guess this is for @DonQuiWho or whoever discovered this.

I can't go back to test things out as my good laptop is frying up and prep for repair will take time, so its just based on memory

 

I used OSLAroused for my arousal needs (can't remember why i chose it over the SexLabAroused ones) yet when i tried selling DoM slaves into AYGAS it was a very rare chance i got an offer. It was basically brute forcing for an offer. No idea if the distance between the potential buyer NPC and selected slave made a difference.

 

Any idea if this plays into that missing script between the SexLab Aroused NG and v28 versions to make it work?

Edited September 28, 2024 by McLovin3

[DonQuiWho]

10 hours ago, McLovin3 said:

Its been busy for me lately so I wanted to post this Q since this has been recently found out, so i guess this is for @DonQuiWho or whoever discovered this.

I can't go back to test things out as my good laptop is frying up and prep for repair will take time, so its just based on memory

 

I used OSLAroused for my arousal needs (can't remember why i chose it over the SexLabAroused ones) yet when i tried selling DoM slaves into AYGAS it was a very rare chance i got an offer. It was basically brute forcing for an offer. No idea if the distance between the potential buyer NPC and selected slave made a difference.

 

Any idea if this plays into that missing script between the SexLab Aroused NG and v28 versions to make it work?

 

It was a while ago, and I know you say you use OSLAroused, but is your log showing errors like that shown below?

 

HSH was looking for a section in one of the SLA NG scripts which, while it is in SLA v28 (I use the BAKA variant), the same section did NOT exist in SLA NG.  I have no idea why, but you can see that the code called/referred to does not exist.

 

TrollAK kindly came up with a couple of possible patches, but try as he might - and he's good! - they didn't fix it.  As it might have taken a long time and effort to find a proper fix, and he has more on his hands with DOM etc, I chose to say 'tyvm', cut my losses and just start a new game.  Had no trouble since (although you might want to check that you are not trying to sell slaves who have names etc which are in non English characters, as they also seem to change savenemes etc and may also interfere with the process)

 

If you are managing to sell some slaves, then that might not be the problem.  Might be more that the locals are still slavery resistant.  Have you tried using the AYGAS cheats.  If they make a difference, just go back to the save prior to making tyhem effective and work your way through it all the hard way 😛!

 

If you can swap out OSL Aroused, for SLAv28BAKA, try that - although I don't know if that screws up anything els OSL related

 

Worst comes to worst, you may just have to have a complete rethink and bite on the bullet, I'm afraid, especially as use of SLA NG seems to be irreversible mid game

 

Sorry I can't help more

 

DQW

 

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07/13/2024 - 10:42:03PM] Error: Method getLoadedActors not found on slaMainScr. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [PHHSHStorage (CF008402)].phhshslal.GetActors() - "phhshslal.psc" Line 31
    [PHHSHScenesSLA (CF0BF923)].phhshscenesla.ProcessArousals() - "phhshSceneSLA.psc" Line 14
    [alias PlayerAlias on quest PHHSHStorage (CF008402)].phhshplayerscript.OnArousalComputed() - "phhshplayerscript.psc" Line 43
[07/13/2024 - 10:42:03PM] Error: Cannot access an element of a None array

[rashken]

@DonQuiWho Do you know why some slaves dont give me the prompt to make them slave trainers?

[DonQuiWho]

38 minutes ago, rashken said:

@DonQuiWho Do you know why some slaves dont give me the prompt to make them slave trainers?

 

This is the PAHE/AYGAS thread

 

 

If you're not using DOM, then training is done by transferring from PAH to HSH

 

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'Training:
Slaves being trained will gain various skills, depending on the slave training them. If one slave is training another, they will play at BDSM as well, if the slave in training is accompanying the trainer, and if the trainer is left to their own devices ("Make yourself useful" command).

 

A slave must have at least 70 Submission to train other slaves. Those slaves will slowly be trained in Submission, Respect, Pose, and Sex up to the level of the trainer. Through dialogue you can order the trainer to focus the training exclusively on Sex, Submission or Combat, in which case the slave will be trained faster though only in the selected skill.

 

Slaves with less than 70 Submission can only be left in the cell or ordered to dress / undress.'

 

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If you are using DOM, and want to use DOM training rather than t/f to HSH, (I don't think you can transfer to HSH and get slaves in HSH trained using DOM dialogues etc - Must admit not tried that, so maybe someone else can confirm? @TrollAutokill  )         

 

For DOM trainers, you need to find some dishonest nasty individual.  Use the dialogue to check the type of slave they are with >Serious Talk/Chat, >What kind of Slave ,(> Exactly what kind of..(seems optional). 

 

If they fit the bill, like Trolls, before training they can be recruited as Henchmen and you then get the 'About the Slaves dialogue' and work from there.   DON'T let them run away and recatch them, or try to train them first, as that ruins their stats and you can't then get them recruited as/to use the 'Henchmen/About the Slaves' etc dialogue. and there seems to be no way of getting it back.

 

If they don't get Slaver dialogues from the start, find someone that does, and work on them from there

 

Hope that helps

 

DQW   

 

 

[pdd001]

Hey guys how does the prostitute progression work.
If i let my slave turn tricks in an inn will she progress her skill overtime when i not there or she have to confirm record having client when i'm there

[DonQuiWho]

19 hours ago, pdd001 said:

Hey guys how does the prostitute progression work.
If i let my slave turn tricks in an inn will she progress her skill overtime when i not there or she have to confirm record having client when i'm there

 

If you're trying to build up to the 15 encounters mark to gainn the requisite perk, I've always played this based on your having to ask each client if they want to use your slave's services, on each and every one of the 15 occasions.  ie Ask you have to ask all 15 clients while you are there

 

Once you have moved on to the next perk, and have a slave well enough trained, you should get the 'you're going to turn tricks for me' (or very similar) dialogue, and you can then leave them in a town - which has full acceptance of slavery - to act on an independent basis.  You can stand back and watch them in action with no intervention by you needed

 

Hope that helps

 

DQW

 

[BurstJunk]

Hey guys, how can i sell a slave to innkeeper as a prostitute? There's no dialogue lines for that, just a standard buy/sell back variant

[Psalam]

10 hours ago, BurstJunk said:

Hey guys, how can i sell a slave to innkeeper as a prostitute? There's no dialogue lines for that, just a standard buy/sell back variant

That's correct. Use that and you will find that later in the conversation the dialogue will be different. Your response will be something along the lines of "What do you think? Worth quite a lot I'd say." To which the innkeeper responds "Oh, our patrons will love him/her."

[sissylover19]

does pahe work with defeat kidnapping mechanics basically can i stuff my slave in my bag and take them with me without breaking ai

[DonQuiWho]

3 hours ago, sissylover19 said:

does pahe work with defeat kidnapping mechanics basically can i stuff my slave in my bag and take them with me without breaking ai

 

Never tried that, TBH

 

But, you can do that with DOM through an option in its slave commands menu.  I use the 'Text' commands version, but I assume that the 'Wheel' commands version does the same

 

DQW

[sissylover19]

Can I sell slaves to mod added npcs for instance home mod/town mod blackthorne

[DonQuiWho]

1 hour ago, sissylover19 said:

Can I sell slaves to mod added npcs for instance home mod/town mod blackthorne

 

Not certain on that one but, as a simple point to consider, if you do sell a slave to mod added NPCs who do not have a 'persistent' existence, you can come back and find the slave still hanging around, but the owning NPC having been nuked out of the game

 

Are you using DOM?  If not, go and have a look at that.  Takes some work to get used to, but it can be fun, and is open to lots of play styles

 

 

Hope that helps

 

DQW