PAH - And you get a slave! (LE/SE)

[TrollAutokill]

6 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

thanks for checking, then I must have another mod conflicting. 

Also if you're using the DOM version this basic behavior is not given.

[Deanevea]

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[CliftonJD]

On 3/26/2026 at 3:21 AM, TrollAutokill said:

Also if you're using the DOM version this basic behavior is not given.

ahh so the deliberate change of outfits to nonrandom npcs is a dom behavior

On 2/8/2026 at 2:13 PM, Fraying9981 said:

It's a bit annoying

Edited March 30 by CliftonJD

[TrollAutokill]

On 3/20/2026 at 9:41 PM, Fraying9981 said:

 

very interesting! thanks for sharing.

I guess i need to do more investigation then. 

 

I have basically an alchemist (Zaria from Falkreath who owns the shop) -> sold her -> she equips Apachi DE Wizard Robes which I have never given to her.

Others equip the vanilla hats.

 

I'm a bit puzzled as to why this is happening..

 

9 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

ahh so the deliberate change of outfits to nonrandom npcs is a dom behavior

 

DOM does restore the actor base outfit after release. Said outfit is then cleared for AYGAS or HSH after transfer, it should be. I was more thinking of the slaves using their inventory to get dressed, that would be DOM's.  In that case, I might have to clear AYGAS slaves inventory after transfer.

 

Outfits appearing out of nowhere are usually linked with SPID outfit distribution. The fix is mod dependent and involves editing the SPID file to exclude PAH and DOM actors.

 

Anyhow this is not going to happen before I finish AYGAS and HSH update (correcting a few bugs, adding a few checks at startup and adding alternate dialogue choices) and move back to DOM.

 

Yes, I am playing good old PAH right now!

 

 

 

Edited March 30 by TrollAutokill

[Fraying9981]

1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

 

 

DOM does restore the actor base outfit after release. Said outfit is then cleared for AYGAS or HSH after transfer, it should be. I was more thinking of the slaves using their inventory to get dressed, that would be DOM's.  In that case, I might have to clear AYGAS slaves inventory after transfer.

 

Outfits appearing out of nowhere are usually linked with SPID outfit distribution. The fix is mod dependent and involves editing the SPID file to exclude PAH and DOM actors.

 

Anyhow this is not going to happen before I finish AYGAS and HSH update (correcting a few bugs, adding a few checks at startup and adding alternate dialogue choices) and move back to DOM.

 

Yes, I am playing good old PAH right now!

 

 

 

 

thanks for sharing! 

 

FYI I've started using this mod that seems to solve most of my outfit problems, because apparently it affects the default outfit, not the equipment:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/173691

It's very intuitive to use and saves outfits, with a real-time wardrobe view = you can see the NPC with the items equipped in real time. The UI uses prisma, it's quite good.
The only issue so far is that it seems to glitch with DOM = DOM seems to want to equip/reequip pieces constantly (judging by apropos narration).

 

Just wanted to share, I know it's not compatible 100% straight out of the box with DOM/Pah, but I believe it has some good ideas.

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

thanks for sharing! 

 

FYI I've started using this mod that seems to solve most of my outfit problems, because apparently it affects the default outfit, not the equipment:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/173691

It's very intuitive to use and saves outfits, with a real-time wardrobe view = you can see the NPC with the items equipped in real time. The UI uses prisma, it's quite good.
The only issue so far is that it seems to glitch with DOM = DOM seems to want to equip/reequip pieces constantly (judging by apropos narration).

 

Just wanted to share, I know it's not compatible 100% straight out of the box with DOM/Pah, but I believe it has some good ideas.

There will be a toggle in next DOM version to bypass auto equip.

Edited March 30 by TrollAutokill

[lostlegends]

I have been running Aygas 0.63b - HSH 1.33b and Dom 5.5.0 on SSE for a while now and found them to be a great team. However on my latest playthrough I started getting the 0 gold offers for selling slaves. I am not sure what has changed or how, but every new game is the same. I have played with load order, uninstalled and reinstalled each mod in different orders, overwritten aygas and hsh with dom, and the other way around, nothing seems to work now, to reiterate this setup did work. So does anyone know a version of dom that works well with Aygas .63b and hsh 1.33b, and which way to instal it? Skyrim sse is current latest version.

[CliftonJD]

5 hours ago, lostlegends said:

I have been running Aygas 0.63b - HSH 1.33b and Dom 5.5.0 on SSE for a while now and found them to be a great team. However on my latest playthrough I started getting the 0 gold offers for selling slaves. I am not sure what has changed or how, but every new game is the same. I have played with load order, uninstalled and reinstalled each mod in different orders, overwritten aygas and hsh with dom, and the other way around, nothing seems to work now, to reiterate this setup did work. So does anyone know a version of dom that works well with Aygas .63b and hsh 1.33b, and which way to instal it? Skyrim sse is current latest version.

each of those mods has an update in the support threads to compare for the same bug

[TrollAutokill]

This is version 0.70 of AYGAS, it contains a few additions to Musje's extraordinary mod, cleans a few oddities and ensure all properties are correctly set. This version is compatible with PAH8 or DOM8 (to be published).

 

WARNING: NOT compatible with DOM7 and below.

 

Here is a summary of the changes:

 

•     When you sell/buy a slave to/from a NPC, the list of slaves following you is now refreshed right after the deal, so you can't sell the same slave twice.
•     For selling/buying slaves, names now appear in full in the dialogue and message box, instead of just "Bandit" or "Necromancer".
•     In the Aygas MCM city level of slavery was added: how many slaves you sold and how many owners there are in each town. 
•     A list of AYGAS slaves sold and active was added to the MCM and it shows their owners.

 

PAH_AndYouGetASlave_0.70_SSE.7z

[McLovin3]

On 4/15/2026 at 6:21 AM, TrollAutokill said:

•     A list of AYGAS slaves sold and active was added to the MCM and it shows their owners.

 

Does that count for when random generated AYGAS slaves are added to owners?

 

It's always such an extreme rarity to see that happen in my playthroughs and I'd love to be able to track them down when it happens.

I remember hearing it was the exact opposite in early versions of AYGAS. To the point people couldn't load in cells in slavery accepted holds because almost everyone had a slave or 2

Still hoping from someone for a fix, increase or perhaps a slider for generated owned AYGAS slaves to encounter, but I'm pretty sure I've been pestering and nagging on that for awhile now.

[TrollAutokill]

28 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

 

Does that count for when random generated AYGAS slaves are added to owners?

 

It's always such an extreme rarity to see that happen in my playthroughs and I'd love to be able to track them down when it happens.

I remember hearing it was the exact opposite in early versions of AYGAS. To the point people couldn't load in cells in slavery accepted holds because almost everyone had a slave or 2

Still hoping from someone for a fix, increase or perhaps a slider for generated owned AYGAS slaves to encounter, but I'm pretty sure I've been pestering and nagging on that for awhile now.

The list covers all owners and their slaves saved in the AYGAS json arrays. So I would expect the answer to your first question to be yes. For the second question, I am not there yet in my playthrough but your inputs are welcome.

Edited April 16 by TrollAutokill

[McLovin3]

34 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

The list covers all owners and their slaves saved in the AYGAS json arrays. So I would expect the answer to your first question to be yes. For the second question, I am not there yet in my playthrough but your inputs are welcome.

 

I forgotten about the slave sale rate slider, but I honestly don't know if it works or not from all my playthroughs and a random slave being generated very rarely going off, (or if I'm just setting it wrong, going to try it max for my next playthrough).

Unless If a slave has to be sold to start it off, or If I should gamble trying to trigger a AYGAS or HSH auction for the sole sake of getting slaves in the system. (I'm assuming both still aren't ready yet for DoMv8)

Or if there's like anything in the logs I can look out for AYGAS to see if it's searching for owner to generate a slave to.

edit: damn i forgot there's a debug log/message in the AYGAS mcm, i should get that MCM Recorded

I do tend to set Cheat mode and All towns at max slavery if that has anything to do with it.

Maybe perhaps something like the start event AYGAS MCM option that has a button that generates a slave into AYGAS slave storage pool for testing and debugging purposes.

 

Is there a specific tab or something to click on to show the sold/active AYGAS?

I checked briefly with cheat mode + Max Slavery but didn't see anything, but I'm guessing a slave needs to be in the system first before something pops up.

Edited April 16 by McLovin3

[roldoi1911]

Whats wrong with my mod setup, if HSH mcm info page says PAHE and AYGAS are ok, but AYGAS sell dialogue doesn’t appear on any npc (guard rumors about slavery does). The AYGAS MCM does appear, but is either blank or not loading. I downloaded at the same time as PAHE and HSH, with DOM 7 I’m using the 0.63c version.

Edited April 16 by roldoi1911

[CliftonJD]

58 minutes ago, roldoi1911 said:

Whats wrong with my mod setup, if HSH mcm info page says PAHE and AYGAS are ok, but AYGAS sell dialogue doesn’t appear on any npc (guard rumors about slavery does). The AYGAS MCM does appear, but is either blank or not loading. I downloaded at the same time as PAHE and HSH, with DOM 7 I’m using the 0.63c version.

i dont believe you can use 2 versions of hsh for different versions on the 2 mods. you would either need to choose only 0.63c with dom or the newer 0.7 with pahe and future dom

[fred200]

Don't worry about Sell dialogs until you get AYGAS MCM working successfully.

If it does not, your system has not initialized successfully, and nothing will work right.

Same is true for PAHE and HSH.

Revert to a clean save and only required mods. Build up from there.

[roldoi1911]

23 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

i dont believe you can use 2 versions of hsh for different versions on the 2 mods. you would either need to choose only 0.63c with dom or the newer 0.7 with pahe and future dom

Oooh, so i should have b for PAH or c for DOM?

[CliftonJD]

54 minutes ago, roldoi1911 said:

Oooh, so i should have b for PAH or c for DOM?

i think b wont work with pah, that was what c was designed for. using both versions would still act as 1, which ever mod is installed last will be the mod in effect so you wont get 2 versions or a version for each mod and its not yet setup to be able to bridge directly to both mods, only 1 or the other

[roldoi1911]

27 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

i think b wont work with pah, that was what c was designed for. using both versions would still act as 1, which ever mod is installed last will be the mod in effect so you wont get 2 versions or a version for each mod and its not yet setup to be able to bridge directly to both mods, only 1 or the other

Well i have c installed. looks like its on, but i can’t access the blank mcm or have any sell slave dialogue. hSH detects it, and guards have the rumors dialogue

[DonQuiWho]

5 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

The list covers all owners and their slaves saved in the AYGAS json arrays. So I would expect the answer to your first question to be yes. For the second question, I am not there yet in my playthrough but your inputs are welcome.

 

@TrollAutokill

 

I have yet to update a game to use the newly revised AYGAS mod - even if only with PAHE - but if I were to now sell a fully trained and carnally talented slave to an NPC using PAHE+AYGAS, will that NPC now be able to be seen to take some satisfaction and enjoyment from his, or her, purchase? 

 

No worries if not quite there yet, as I'm sure Embry will have the patience to wait another few weeks until he is able to indulge himself in Camilla's charms

 

DQW 

Edited April 17 by DonQuiWho

[CliftonJD]

1 hour ago, roldoi1911 said:

Well i have c installed. looks like its on, but i can’t access the blank mcm or have any sell slave dialogue. hSH detects it, and guards have the rumors dialogue

from your descriptions above, you might need to be sure its only version c as trying to use 2 versions might be the issue. i think @TrollAutokill mentioned a fix for the mcm on the previous page you could try

 

once you get the mcm working you can start checking for the dialog outside of towns as even the small towns dont have it at first

Edited April 17 by CliftonJD

[Eptizzy]

Does this mod/any of the PAH mods work with the Immersive & Adult Modpack from Nexusmods?

[roldoi1911]

On 12/6/2025 at 1:05 PM, Psalam said:

I agree with @Fraying9981 - load order matters. When I have had this issue I have had to move HSH and AYGAS UP in the load order (which is the opposite of what I expected).

@CliftonJDthis one? I put my DOM and PAH stuff near the end of my load order. Try putting it up and see when it registers?

[Fraying9981]

9 minutes ago, roldoi1911 said:

@CliftonJDthis one? I put my DOM and PAH stuff near the end of my load order. Try putting it up and see when it registers?

 

@CliftonJD/ @TrollAutokill 🙏🏻 can you reconfirm the proper order in MO2 (for overwrites) for a configuration with Pah, HSH, AYGAS, DOM?

Until now DOM overwrote everything for me but I didn't include Pah since it has been updated.

[TrollAutokill]

2 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

@CliftonJD/ @TrollAutokill 🙏🏻 can you reconfirm the proper order in MO2 (for overwrites) for a configuration with Pah, HSH, AYGAS, DOM?

Until now DOM overwrote everything for me but I didn't include Pah since it has been updated.

It depends what you want to achieve. 

 

1) For now I would recommend PAH8 then DOM7 then AYGAS 0.63c or 0.7  then HSH 1.33c or 1.40. That way the slaves need to be in PAH to use AYGAS or HSH.

 

2) If you want to send DOM slaves to AYGAS or HSH, you need to install PAH8 then AYGAS 0.63c then HSH 1.33c and lastly DOM7. But this is buggy and you might get inactive HSH slaves and zero value propositions in AYGAS.

 

3) Use PAH8,  AYGAS 0.70 and HSH 1.40 with DOM8, when it's available.

 

Note: in any case, there is no patch available to send both PAH and DOM slaves to AYGAS and HSH. You need to choose the main platform and that's where load order matter.

 

[TrollAutokill]

4 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

 

@TrollAutokill

 

I have yet to update a game to use the newly revised AYGAS mod - even if only with PAHE - but if I were to now sell a fully trained and carnally talented slave to an NPC using PAHE+AYGAS, will that NPC now be able to be seen to take some satisfaction and enjoyment from his, or her, purchase? 

 

No worries if not quite there yet, as I'm sure Embry will have the patience to wait another few weeks until he is able to indulge himself in Camilla's charms

 

DQW 

It's still on my list. But if HSH got extensions as of 1.40. AYGAS only got bug fixing and MCM list.

 

Next on my list is to release DOM8 which will be easier to plug and play to the latest updates of AYGAS and HSH.

 

Then we will take care of poor Embry, but as an AYGAS feature, compatible with PAH or DOM. Most importantly this will be achieved without hacking through DOM and AYGAS.

Edited April 17 by TrollAutokill