Raven Beak Prison Remastered

[crudo]

Finally got to try your version of Ravenbeak Prison.  I like the entry into the prison with the guards, a bit more immersive.  When it was mining time I went to do the work and I didn't have anyone approach my character, ever.  I spoke to a few of the prisoners and of course, the guards but nothing happened.  I had a 200 day sentence and mining 10 ores for a one day reduction seems tedious (I had to console command some ore to get that to a more reasonable time).  When my sentence was over I was just booted out of the mod.  I was in the shower area at the time and the screen went black and the next thing you know I'm out.  At least when I got out the combat script didn't carry over, that was nice, thank you.

 

I know in the old mod there were issues with the other inmates approach to the player.  There were two patches made, one was for followers and the other, I believe was for the approach.  Do you know if either of those patches are compatible?

 

If you don't mind two suggestions I would recommend:

 

1.  Having the player move from mining spot to mining spot is repetitious.  Especially after getting only a few swings at the ore and it's over.  Then you have to run to a new spot and start all over.  Slaves of Tamriel had a real nice mining game where you would be given a patch to mine and your ability to get ore was determined by your stamina.  You would have to take a rest for a bit after your stamina was depleted.  You could even have the guards give the player skooma to enhance their mining energy.

 

2.  Have a guard approach the player for prison release.  It's just so jarring to all of a sudden be set free.  It would be nice if it was in the morning too and not at night, just makes a bit more sense immersion-wise.

 

Whatever you decide to do it's very good that someone is working on this mod.  It's a great alternative to Prison Overhaul, which is great but it's nice to change things up.  Thanks for taking the time on this mod.

[JahReit]

 Airianna:  Did you have one version where the approach worked? So many I lost track.

[Airianna]

Finally got to try your version of Ravenbeak Prison.  I like the entry into the prison with the guards, a bit more immersive.  When it was mining time I went to do the work and I didn't have anyone approach my character, ever.  I spoke to a few of the prisoners and of course, the guards but nothing happened.  I had a 200 day sentence and mining 10 ores for a one day reduction seems tedious (I had to console command some ore to get that to a more reasonable time).  When my sentence was over I was just booted out of the mod.  I was in the shower area at the time and the screen went black and the next thing you know I'm out.  At least when I got out the combat script didn't carry over, that was nice, thank you.

 

I know in the old mod there were issues with the other inmates approach to the player.  There were two patches made, one was for followers and the other, I believe was for the approach.  Do you know if either of those patches are compatible?

 

If you don't mind two suggestions I would recommend:

 

1.  Having the player move from mining spot to mining spot is repetitious.  Especially after getting only a few swings at the ore and it's over.  Then you have to run to a new spot and start all over.  Slaves of Tamriel had a real nice mining game where you would be given a patch to mine and your ability to get ore was determined by your stamina.  You would have to take a rest for a bit after your stamina was depleted.  You could even have the guards give the player skooma to enhance their mining energy.

 

2.  Have a guard approach the player for prison release.  It's just so jarring to all of a sudden be set free.  It would be nice if it was in the morning too and not at night, just makes a bit more sense immersion-wise.

 

Whatever you decide to do it's very good that someone is working on this mod.  It's a great alternative to Prison Overhaul, which is great but it's nice to change things up.  Thanks for taking the time on this mod.

 

If you chose the rout for sex to reduce time, you can screw every guard accessible to get released in the same day, with 2 murders.

Talk to a guard, "I wanted to ask you something...." type of thing to initiate the dialogue for sex to pay for time. Blow jobs = 3 days, anal = 5, vag = 7. If you get pregnant from Vaginal, then that's something you have to deal with. *I recommend using SL Wear and Tear when going this rout, to actually limit your sexual activities due to being sore*

 

I have no idea if either of those patches still work. I tend to run without a companion because they love getting in the way while I am sniping the target. Favorite weapon, Bound Bow. With the mod, Invested Magic from steam, so the time is increased to several days, but cuts into total available magika.

 

I am wanting to set it up so that you are walked from the processing room to the cell at the very beginning. But the time in that room, gives access to a built in cheat to reclaim your gear as well, so I don't want to interfere with that aspect either.

 

I never actually used Slaves of Tamirel, I started to use it, as it got started, I was getting my barrings, when a guard decided to whip me, the war was on, I had all 3 guards at the entrance on their knees then the game crashed. I removed the mod, because the guards are immortal, and caused the game to crash. And never got to actually see the mining game. But do like the idea they have.

Every time you mine, you get 2 pieces of Ore, I haven't touched that part at all yet.

 

When time ends, it is currently just like the original mod, just booted out. I do have plans to not be booted to skyrim, instead, escorted to the gate of the prison for the release... If you don't become a slave first.

 Airianna:  Did you have one version where the approach worked? So many I lost track.

 

Early on, it halfway worked, I've been trying to fix it since the beginning. And so far, no luck.

When I swapped out the guards to give each their own set of armor, a name, and varied appearances, is when the approach broke entirely. So it was already at it's limit for what could be done. Then adding more space to the interior, and trying to add more people to the inmate roster, broke the already fragile NPC moving from location to location. I am still looking for ways to get around the problems.

[Airianna]

I dunno, I am going crazy here, apparently my fix for the fighting outside Raven Beak, broke the fight script while inside the prison... bleh!

And to top it off, now that I have completed my time, all of a sudden, everyone and I mean EVERYONE starts to approach Guards AND inmates... BUT since it's not on stage 10 or 15, they don't initiate the dialogue for either giving them everything or asking if I like cock or fist... 

 

[tuxagent7]

Head busting puzzle ! What a headache

 

You will feel so good when you will fix the code

 

It will be like... in your face Raven Beak Prison ! Got you good

 

 

 

 

[Airianna]

Managed to add a couple triggers that were dead end.

 

Let's try this one for approaches.

- Wrote a couple new scripts

- Rewrote my previous "fix"

- Excuse me while I slam some pots and pans while I fix my family a snack.

- Attempted to do some extra cleaning

 

[Filtering done]  Processed Records: 910992 Elapsed Time: 00:09

[00:00] Checking for Errors in [03] Prison.esp

[00:03] All Done!

[undeleting and Disabling References done]  Processed Records: 20694, Undeleted Records: 0, Elapsed Time: 00:00

Removing: GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:030173B2] (in RavenBeakPrisonWorld "Raven Beak Prison Yard" [WRLD:0300426C] at -32,154)

Removing: GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:030171D2] (in RavenBeakPrisonWorld "Raven Beak Prison Yard" [WRLD:0300426C] at -32,144)

Removing: GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:030171D0] (in RavenBeakPrisonWorld "Raven Beak Prison Yard" [WRLD:0300426C] at -32,145)

[Removing "Identical to Master" records done]  Processed Records: 20694, Removed Records: 3, Elapsed Time: 00:00

Created: F:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\Seq\Prison.seq

[Create SEQ file done] Processed Plugins: 1, Sequence Files Created: 1

 

Raven Beak Prison Revisited-22-2.7z

 

Edit add: Just noticed a double stripping and adding of items when being added to the prison. Once before going to the cell, and again after reaching the cell. I had the setup count function in the wrong location. so it was doing both entries, as if you had been there before and released...

[tuxagent7]

 

Managed to add a couple triggers that were dead end.

 

Let's try this one for approaches.

- Wrote a couple new scripts

- Rewrote my previous "fix"

- Excuse me while I slam some pots and pans while I fix my family a snack.

- Attempted to do some extra cleaning

 

[Filtering done]  Processed Records: 910992 Elapsed Time: 00:09

[00:00] Checking for Errors in [03] Prison.esp

[00:03] All Done!

[undeleting and Disabling References done]  Processed Records: 20694, Undeleted Records: 0, Elapsed Time: 00:00

Removing: GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:030173B2] (in RavenBeakPrisonWorld "Raven Beak Prison Yard" [WRLD:0300426C] at -32,154)

Removing: GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:030171D2] (in RavenBeakPrisonWorld "Raven Beak Prison Yard" [WRLD:0300426C] at -32,144)

Removing: GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:030171D0] (in RavenBeakPrisonWorld "Raven Beak Prison Yard" [WRLD:0300426C] at -32,145)

[Removing "Identical to Master" records done]  Processed Records: 20694, Removed Records: 3, Elapsed Time: 00:00

Created: F:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\Seq\Prison.seq

[Create SEQ file done] Processed Plugins: 1, Sequence Files Created: 1

 

Raven Beak Prison Revisited-22-2.7z

 

Edit add: Just noticed a double stripping and adding of items when being added to the prison. Once before going to the cell, and again after reaching the cell. I had the setup count function in the wrong location. so it was doing both entries, as if you had been there before and released...

 

For me

 

No approach and when i fight them its to the death no stripping or taking from them when they are defeated

 

[Airianna]

Thank you Tux,

Now, I have the Bully bonus firing, but once again, it isn't doing the item transfer again.

Also, with the new periodic update (recently added), it tells the current Bully points, that seem to reset back to the base value again... Currently is 25. Makes me wonder if I shouldn't create a new quest, just to hold the bully scores so they don't constantly reset.

[Airianna]

- Fixed a couple scripts, NOW Papyrus Trace log reveals aspects of what Raven Beak Prison Scripts are doing.

- Fixed the fights initiated by the player, actually not ending in death of the target.

- - Maintained the aspect of having to be in Raven Beak Prison for the fight scripts to count for gear loss on loosing 80% or more of the player's health.

- Includes the Bully Score display every 15 minutes. (this is also when the calculation for approaches and comments are supposed to occur)

 

Known

- End of combat, when player doesn't like their face(fight) doesn't reward the player with inventory transfer options.

- Seems to get stuck on specific Quest Stages (0 and 60)

- - Stage 0, start up stage for RavenBeakPrisonDialougeQuest

- - Stage 60, Resets after fights/sex for RavenBeakPrisonDialougeQuest

- Approaches still not working for me.

 

Raven Beak Prison Revisited-22-3.7z

[tuxagent7]

I would want to help you but i have to reinstall skyrim from scratch... wont be able to for a little while

 

sorry

[Airianna]

I would want to help you but i have to reinstall skyrim from scratch... wont be able to for a little while

 

sorry

 

No worries! I appreciate all the help you have given so far.

 

Also, your saves can be saved for later as well. My level 226/227 character, is from a save without mods. That I keep on the side and just add every time I need to test some things, then remove for a new game.

[Airianna]

Ok people!

 

Approaches ARE working for me.

- Possible: Doesn't start right away - Start a fight with an inmate through dialogue should cause it to start working if this happens to you.

- If ignored enough times, it will choose another NPC to approach with

 

Known issues

- Multiple hits after winning can boost Bully Score to max on the first fight

- As bully score is high, the inmates still don't want to give up their items very easily, Will adjust to mimic chance of success to = Bully Score, so even with a low Bully Score, will still be able to collect ore or clothes from the inmate.

 

Raven Beak Prison Revisited-22-4.7z

 

Use this bat file to find out what stage you are on, quicker and easier than the old method by unzipping and placing this bat file in your Skyrim Folder directly.

In the console type

bat stage

All it does is tells you what stage the RavenBeakPrisonDialouge quest is on. if 10 or 15, you can expect an approach soon after an NPC completes it's current task. If 0 for an extended amount of time, I would wait for 9am game time to be sure, If the bully score hasn't shown up, after that, then just start a fight with the inmate.

 

stage.7z

[Airianna]

Working on adding a new Inmate option for when asking for their clothes or Ore, Bully level between 30 and 70, they just might as for sex in return for the items. Or if you happen to be a slave.

[tuxagent7]

Working on adding a new Inmate option for when asking for their clothes or Ore, Bully level between 30 and 70, they just might as for sex in return for the items. Or if you happen to be a slave.

 

Yes ! Yes !

 

The approach are now working !

 

You did it !

 

I got more testing to do, and be in the prison more than a day hehe (the menu doesnt appears after the fight and also when i get myself beat by the prisonners, he steals my items and he seems to never wants sex)

 

But its ok because the approach are working !

 

-Like the prisonners dress instead of the pants

-I like also seeing my bully score appears on the top left screen

 

Great job ! What did you do to make it work ?

[Airianna]

 

Working on adding a new Inmate option for when asking for their clothes or Ore, Bully level between 30 and 70, they just might as for sex in return for the items. Or if you happen to be a slave.

 

Yes ! Yes !

 

The approach are now working !

 

You did it !

 

I got more testing to do, and be in the prison more than a day hehe (the menu doesnt appears after the fight and also when i get myself beat by the prisonners, he steals my items and he seems to never wants sex)

 

But its ok because the approach are working !

 

-Like the prisonners dress instead of the pants

-I like also seeing my bully score appears on the top left screen

 

Great job ! What did you do to make it work ?

 

 

I rewrote half of the approach scripts, there are 2 of them. And reduced the number of packages for the bullies to process.

 

If all you are doing is fighting, which the option is for, I tend to agree to not being able to loot them. But if you have something like Defeat, when you knock them down, you can rob them. *To be honest, not sure how to make the looting them when you win work* BUT, I want to set up something else, if their health is lower than 50% when you ask for ore, for them to out right give it to you, because they are injured and don't want to get into another fight till they have healed.

[tuxagent7]

 

 

Working on adding a new Inmate option for when asking for their clothes or Ore, Bully level between 30 and 70, they just might as for sex in return for the items. Or if you happen to be a slave.

 

Yes ! Yes !

 

The approach are now working !

 

You did it !

 

I got more testing to do, and be in the prison more than a day hehe (the menu doesnt appears after the fight and also when i get myself beat by the prisonners, he steals my items and he seems to never wants sex)

 

But its ok because the approach are working !

 

-Like the prisonners dress instead of the pants

-I like also seeing my bully score appears on the top left screen

 

Great job ! What did you do to make it work ?

 

 

I rewrote half of the approach scripts, there are 2 of them. And reduced the number of packages for the bullies to process.

 

If all you are doing is fighting, which the option is for, I tend to agree to not being able to loot them. But if you have something like Defeat, when you knock them down, you can rob them. *To be honest, not sure how to make the looting them when you win work* BUT, I want to set up something else, if their health is lower than 50% when you ask for ore, for them to out right give it to you, because they are injured and don't want to get into another fight till they have healed.

 

 

For exemple when i tell the prisonner, i want your clothes ! 

 

I got to fight him but when i win, he doesnt give me clothes, he leaves

 

 

Another wonderfull news the approach works everywhere ! shower, lunch room, yard 

 

And i tried to steal in the yard and i got caught and the guard didnt like it and beat him up  no stealing ! hehe

 

Edit : Yeah like the idea : I am too injured to fight so here is the ore...leave me be but watch out tomorrow i will come back with my friends 

[Airianna]

Raven Beak Prison Remastered 1.23

is available.

[tuxagent7]

Raven Beak Prison Remastered 1.23

is available.

 

 

I bet you feel great taming that approach beast

 

Good news indeed

[Airianna]

 

Raven Beak Prison Remastered 1.23

is available.

 

 

I bet you feel great taming that approach beast

 

Good news indeed

 

 

I am smiling about it, yes. But, there is much more to do. Giving the slave something to do, and more options for the prisoner. Flushing out the Island, adding NPCs to the farm and fishery, making them fully functional. Then expanding on and adding additional quest chains for the player.

[jazzumness]

Is there a change log for 1.23?

[Jay1646]

I just want to say

 

You're doing an amazing job

 

And we all appreciate what you're working so hard at!

[ZWCCWH]

I must say I love your mod very much and I have a little suggestion that could make the prison better in my points of view: A couple of ZAP furniture could be added into the yard or the cell of the prison, and some devices such as waist and ankle shackles or the "prisoner's chain" from the Heretical Resources mod could be added to the outfit of the prisoners. It will make life in the prison more interesting, I think.

After all, thank you for your hard work and we all appreciate it!

[Airianna]

Is there a change log for 1.23?

 

At the bottom of the discription page contains what changes with dates for each of the previous versions that I can remember changing. And every time I make changes I try to include as much as I can remember close to the top of the Description page as well.

I just want to say

 

You're doing an amazing job

 

And we all appreciate what you're working so hard at!

 

Thank you for the vote of confidence as I stumble my way through the CK.

I must say I love your mod very much and I have a little suggestion that could make the prison better in my points of view: A couple of ZAP furniture could be added into the yard or the cell of the prison, and some devices such as waist and ankle shackles or the "prisoner's chain" from the Heretical Resources mod could be added to the outfit of the prisoners. It will make life in the prison more interesting, I think.

After all, thank you for your hard work and we all appreciate it!

 

Currently, I don't plan to add more requirements to use the mod. However, if someone wants to add a patch to include the devices, they are more than welcome, and I will host their mod as optional with mine.

[bicobus]

Do you think you can detect wether or not it is the first imprisonment the player goes through, if it isn't then do slightly different scenario? So that the player do not enter with a clean state but with remnants of her/his past "adventures". For instance, if the player was someone's bitch, then that status could remain but with some inherent mechanical help to get the player away from that state. In a way, to have either the player or an NPC to reaffirm their dominance.

[Airianna]

Do you think you can detect wether or not it is the first imprisonment the player goes through, if it isn't then do slightly different scenario? So that the player do not enter with a clean state but with remnants of her/his past "adventures". For instance, if the player was someone's bitch, then that status could remain but with some inherent mechanical help to get the player away from that state. In a way, to have either the player or an NPC to reaffirm their dominance.

 

The state on leaving the prison, should remain when you return. Even the Bully Score. So if you get out the first time through normal means, the next time you go in, where ever your Bully score was, should remain the same. Also If you chose to leave through the Sewers, your time when you escaped will be added, to what you just received, AND the sewer door should be blocked by a fallen Bolder with no way to access it.

 

As for being a specific inmate's prison bitch is not incorporated into the system. Could be something I add to it later. I do like the suggestion, as it portrays a realistic prison. It will change the bully score, and approaches... And maybe cause fights between inmates to ascertain exchange of who you belong to. Or they might sell you to another inmate... Lots to consider for that.