More Nasty Critters Legendary Edition

[shabadouya]

2 hours ago, SpectrumQT said:

I've managed to reproduce the "HORSE CRASH" whitin minimal testing environment.

TLDR: The "cause" is Crash Fixes v12 with MNC v11.4F, so disable the first or roll back the second (11.4D is the last unaffected version).

Steps to reproduce:

1. Install Skyrim LE from the Steam
2. Install SKSE 1.7.3 (use this SKSE.ini)
3. Place d3dx9_42.dll from SKSE plugin preloader to game root dir (preloads Crash Fixes)
4. Install Crash Fixes v12 (use this CrashFixPlugin.ini)
5. Install Sexlab
6. Install Alternate Start - Live Another Life
7. Install MoreNastyCritters v11.4F
8. Start a new game
9. Speak with the Statue of Mara, select "I own property in one of the holds", then "Breezhome [Whiterun]"
10. Click on the bed to sleep, leave the Breezhome, leave the Whiterun through the main gates
11. Go alongside the wall, turn to the left when possible
12. Look at the horses (in the stables or near the carriage)
13. CTD confirmed

 

Though the crash fires only with Crash Fixes v12, my build is unstable without it's memory management, so I've had to switch to previously used 11.4C instead.

 

P.S. Please, EXTERMINATE this bug. I've spent over 6 hours to figure out what causes CTD in 200+ mods build (which was fairly stable previously and was just slightly edited and updated for the new playthrough) and over 2 hours more to reduce the build to required minimum for reproduction.

God damn, thanks for the effort u put into this. I was testing for days and wondering what the crashes were regarding horses of all things

[MadMansGun]

8 hours ago, SpectrumQT said:

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i can't use/test v12 because it won't even start on WinXP Pro x64:

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"The procedure entry point GetTickCount64 could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNERL32.dll"

 

but i can however run v10, and it's still not crashing for me.

[helmutw]

why this version doesn't have skeever? the old version has it.

 

creatures currently not having animation;

 

chaurus reaper

dwarven sphere

female vampire lord

skeever

ice wraith

mudcrab

[Narcolepsy]

22 minutes ago, helmutw said:

why this version doesn't have skeever? the old version has it.

 

creatures currently not having animation;

 

chaurus reaper

dwarven sphere

female vampire lord

skeever

ice wraith

mudcrab

Mudcrab probably can't and won't have any animations done for it, unless some trickery with animobjects happens. The same was initially true for ice wraiths, but animobjects solved that. The other animations you can find in other SLAL packs. Billyy's has all the the mentioned except female vampire lord and mudcrab. Funnybizness does have some female vampire lord animations.

[MadMansGun]

35 minutes ago, helmutw said:

why this version doesn't have skeever? the old version has it.

updated versions are in Billyy's SLAL Pack:

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3999-billyys-slal-animations/

 

also read the "READ IMMEDIATELY v9 to v11 upgrade procedure.txt" on the MNC download page.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Rachel said:

The same was initially true for ice wraiths, but animobjects solved that.

the icewraiths are not animobjects, PaulGreen was able to fix them for us.

so far Billyy has made 2 animations for them and i have made 1.

 

[SpectrumQT]

9 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

i can't use/test v12 because it won't even start on WinXP Pro x64: 

 

but i can however run v10, and it's still not crashing for me.

Did you use linked CrashFixPlugin.ini? When "UseOSAllocators=1" is set I'm getting CTD with v10, v11, v12. By the way, as for me, custom memory management is the main feature of this plugin. Also there is a chance that you won't get CTD even with this option enabled since you're running WinXP and the plugin may behave differently (I'm on Win10 Pro 1809 x64),

 

And I can also confirm that using '\meshes\actors\horse\character assets\skeleton.hkx' from Animated Beast's Cocks(ABC) For users - HDT Patch 0.6V prevents the crashes.

 

15 hours ago, shabadouya said:

God damn, thanks for the effort u put into this. I was testing for days and wondering what the crashes were regarding horses of all things

You're welcome.

[Raistlin_]

Hello hello, I also have the crashes whenever i get in a short range of horses, if i reinstall MoreNastyCritters_v11_4D do i need to also revert the other files or can i keep those? 

 

EDIT- Is that the file i should revert also? Not sure. I was using all the files that were version 11.4c , started a new game to update only when the 11.4f was available so haven't used the ones after c except 11.4f . Im confusing myself sorry if im messing you up as well. I guess what im asking is should I go back to 11.4c on all the files or just the MoreNastyCritters main one? or 11.4d i guess, not c.

[MadMansGun]

1 hour ago, Raistlin_ said:

Hello hello, I also have the crashes whenever i get in a short range of horses, if i reinstall MoreNastyCritters_v11_4D do i need to also revert the other files or can i keep those? 

 

EDIT- Is that the file i should revert also? Not sure. I was using all the files that were version 11.4c , started a new game to update only when the 11.4f was available so haven't used the ones after c except 11.4f . Im confusing myself sorry if im messing you up as well. I guess what im asking is should I go back to 11.4c on all the files or just the MoreNastyCritters main one? or 11.4d i guess, not c.

you don't need 11.4D, you just need to delete the skeleton.hkx (Data\meshes\actors\horse\character assets\skeleton.hkx)

 

edit: also are you using "Crash Fixes v12" as well? and if so dose it still crash if you use v10 instead?

[LordArek]

Guys idk if that belongs here or into the creature framework thread, but since all of my critters use the MNC genitals, I think it should be okay here.

Because: For some reason, werewolves that are made by Moonlight Tales Werewolf Blood potions don't have genitals. I used to know a solution to this (or I just pressed the right buttons by accident...), but the Moonlight Tales Werewolves refuse to get their MNC meshes/dicks now. Any hints/tips?

[Raistlin_]

1 hour ago, MadMansGun said:

you don't need 11.4D, you just need to delete the skeleton.hkx (Data\meshes\actors\horse\character assets\skeleton.hkx)

 

edit: also are you using "Crash Fixes v12" as well? and if so dose it still crash if you use v10 instead?

I'm off for the night but I'll check tomorrow when I play again, if I just delete that file would I have to start a new game again?

[Raistlin_]

Edit - when I delete it am I losing the fun parts of the horses?

[MadMansGun]

20 minutes ago, Raistlin_ said:

Edit - when I delete it am I losing the fun parts of the horses?

only the animated penis part in the newer animations that are showing up in SLAL Packs now.

[MadMansGun]

55 minutes ago, LordArek said:

Guys idk if that belongs here or into the creature framework thread, but since all of my critters use the MNC genitals, I think it should be okay here.

Because: For some reason, werewolves that are made by Moonlight Tales Werewolf Blood potions don't have genitals. I used to know a solution to this (or I just pressed the right buttons by accident...), but the Moonlight Tales Werewolves refuse to get their MNC meshes/dicks now. Any hints/tips?

install SOS and turn off werewolves in CF.

[Raistlin_]

36 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

only the animated penis part in the newer animations that are showing up in SLAL Packs now.

cool cool, i am using crash fixes v12 , also convenient horses if thats a part of it. When i delete that file should i start a new game to be on the safe side?

[Raistlin_]

Arg ty so much, I crashed about 10-20 times trying to get into whiterun without fail when the stable area loaded, deleted that file and walked right in.

[MadMansGun]

34 minutes ago, Raistlin_ said:

should i start a new game to be on the safe side?

no, it's not a script (well it sort of is but not the kind that kills save files)

 

34 minutes ago, Raistlin_ said:

i am using crash fixes v12

what happens if you use v10 with the hkx still in place? (note: i don't actually know but downgrading crash fixes may possibly harm save files)

[Raistlin_]

47 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

no, it's not a script (well it sort of is but not the kind that kills save files)

 

what happens if you use v10 with the hkx still in place? (note: i don't actually know but downgrading crash fixes may possibly harm save files)

I'm not sure, ive just in the past month or so gotten back into modding skyrim after a couple years hiatus so this v12 is the only version of crash fixes ive downloaded. I use vortex as well so i wouldn't be able to make a seperate profile like with MO to see. Im also very finicky about changing anything once ive started the game after more time modding it then playing lol. Like even though youve said I wouldnt need to restart after that im probably still going to since i altered something lol. Only a few of my playthroughs have gone into the higher levels since ive started modding.

[Quest_Items]

Hello everyone,

 

I am curently doing a Female Vampire Lord character and i noticed that when i use sexlab while being a VL my shape is changing for a curvier one.

But sadly once sexlab is done the body is back to the normal vanilla VL shape. My question would be, is it possibe to keep this curvy shape each time i am a VL even when i am not using sexlab ?

 

Thanks in advance

[MadMansGun]

1 hour ago, Quest_Items said:

Hello everyone,

 

I am curently doing a Female Vampire Lord character and i noticed that when i use sexlab while being a VL my shape is changing for a curvier one.

But sadly once sexlab is done the body is back to the normal vanilla VL shape. My question would be, is it possibe to keep this curvy shape each time i am a VL even when i am not using sexlab ?

 

Thanks in advance

something must be overriding DLC1NakedVampireLord [ARMA:020023F4], you will probably have to load all of your mods (that are below MNC in the load order) into TES5Edit to find the mod responsible.

[thebasilguy]

Well I've kind of hit a wall. I get a CTD right after selecting either New Game or Continue after installing Version 11.4F. I'll post the Load Order below but without it installed everything seems to be working and in a stable state. Any ideas on what might be the issue would be appreciated, and if any other information would help I can try and get it. I sort with LOOT after every install and also tried the recommended load order manually. Vortex is what I use for my install. Apologies if this load order is disgusting or redundant in areas, been modding a while but I'm DEFINITELY not knowledgeable on how things work internally. Thanks! 

 

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     CreatureFramework.esm
  7  7     hdtHighHeel.esm
  8  8     BBLuxurySuite.esm
  9  9     AzarHair.esm
 10  a     SexLab.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 12  c     SexLabAroused.esm
 13  d     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 14  e     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 15  f     daymoyl.esm
 16 10     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 17 11     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 18 12     SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
 19 13     TERAArmors.esm
 20 14     RaceCompatibility.esm
 21 15     BeeingFemale.esm
 22 16     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
 23 17     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 24 18     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 25 19     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 26 1a     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
 27 1b     KaiSFemaleHHDT.esp
 28 1c     ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
 29 1d     Brows.esp
 30 1e     SexLabDefeat.esp
 31 1f     RLO - Interiors.esp
 32 20     CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
 33 21     JKs Skyrim.esp
 34 22     SD Cages.esp
 35 23     proudspiremanortnf.esp
 36 24     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
 37 25     RLO - Exteriors.esp
 38 26     BHTNF_Eli.esp
 39 27     Awesome Artifacts.esp
 40 28     aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
 41 29     Tera Armor Level List.esp
 42 2a     SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
 43 2b     SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
 44 2c     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 45 2d     SoS - The Wilds.esp
 46 2e     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 47 2f     SoS - Civilization.esp
 48 30     SLO_StoneWalls.esp
 49 31     The Great City of Falkreath.esp
 50 32     AuroraFollower.esp
 51 33     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 52 34     SMIM-Merged-All.esp
 53 35     RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
 54 36     SimpleSlavery.esp
 55 37     Devious Cidhna.esp
 56 38     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 57 39     OMB Luxury Player Homes.esp
 58 3a     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 59 3b     LADX.esp
 60 3c     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
 61 3d     SFO - Dragonborn.esp
 62 3e     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 63 3f     SOS - Shop.esp
 64 40     RoadInspections.esp
 65 41     SolitudeExterior.esp
 66 42     LIAT - Sounds.esp
 67 43     MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
 68 44     LIAT - NPCs.esp
 69 45     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
 70 46     BlackSacramentArmor.esp
 71 47     BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
 72 48     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
 73 49     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 74 4a     SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp
 75 4b     SLAnimLoader.esp
 76 4c     12FemaleBrows.esp
 77 4d     UIExtensions.esp
 78 4e     AddItemMenu.esp
 79 4f     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 80 50     AnubAnimObj.esp
 81 51     Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
 82 52     BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp
 83 53     BetterFreeCamera.esp
 84 54     Bijin NPCs.esp
 85 55     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 86 56     Bijin Wives.esp
 87 57     BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
 88 58     Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
 89 59     ExMakeup.esp
 90 5a     Extended Slider Colors.esp
 91 5b     FNIS.esp
 92 5c     FNISSexyMove.esp
 93 5d     FNISspells.esp
 94 5e     iHUD.esp
 95 5f     Kai's Lipstick.esp
 96 60     KJ Tattoos 4K.esp
 97 61     KS Hairdo's.esp
 98 62     KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
 99 63     mintylightningmod.esp
100 64     Neithteam Warpaint.esp
101 65     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
102 66     RLO - Effects.esp
103 67     RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
104 68     RRTattoos.esp
105 69     Serana.esp
106 6a     SexistGuards.esp
107 6b     SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
108 6c     SexLabTools.esp
109 6d     SGEyebrows.esp
110 6e     Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
111 6f     SkyUI.esp
112 70     SkyrimConfigMenu.esp
113 71     SlaveTats.esp
114 72     SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
115 73     SLSO.esp
116 74     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
117 75     TrueStorms.esp
118 76     Valerica.esp
119 77     Vividian - Torches Preset.esp
120 78     Vividian - Wearable Lanterns Preset.esp
121 79     Vividian - Weather Patch Vanilla.esp
122 7a     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
123 7b     dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
124 7c     dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
125 7d     dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
126 7e     EmpyreanCS.esp
127 7f     Facelight.esp
128 80     HelmetToggle.esp
129 81     RavenWP3.esp
130 82     KomAnimObjects.esp
131 83     SLALAnimObj.esp
132 84     SOSRaceMenu.esp
133 85     XPMSE.esp
134 86     RaceMenu.esp
135 87     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
136 88     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
137 89     BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
138 8a     YunDao_Hdt_V2.7.esp
139 8b     zzEstrus.esp
140 8c     EstrusChaurus.esp
141 8d     DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp
142 8e     HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp
143 8f     WetFunction.esp
144 90     Devious Devices - Equip.esp
145 91     LustmordVampireArmor.esp
146 92     Real Clouds.esp
147 93     Remodeled Armor.esp
148 94     Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
149 95     Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
150 96     Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
151 97     Apropos2.esp
152 98     Avalon.esp
153 99     DeviouslyHelpless.esp
154 9a     Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp
155 9b     CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
156 9c     SD Patches.esp
157 9d     No5F.esp
158 9e     SexLab LightMeUp Oldrim.esp
159 9f     VOBS.esp
160 a0     SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
161 a1     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
162 a2     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
163 a3     Dovabear.esp
164 a4     Jennifer.esp
165 a5     dvmb.esp
166 a6     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
167 a7     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
168 a8     ccas_starts.esp
169 a9     ImmerSlave.esp
170 aa     BBLS-ASLAL.esp

 

[MadMansGun]

11 minutes ago, thebasilguy said:

Well I've kind of hit a wall. I get a CTD right after selecting either New Game or Continue after installing Version 11.4F. I'll post the Load Order below but without it installed everything seems to be working and in a stable state. Any ideas on what might be the issue would be appreciated, and if any other information would help I can try and get it. I sort with LOOT after every install and also tried the recommended load order manually. Vortex is what I use for my install. Apologies if this load order is disgusting or redundant in areas, been modding a while but I'm DEFINITELY not knowledgeable on how things work internally. Thanks!

there are 2 possibilitys:

1. the ongoing "Crash Fixes v12 vs horse skeleton.hkx" situation (scroll up to top of page).

2. you have too many animations installed.

 

[thebasilguy]

59 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

there are 2 possibilitys:

1. the ongoing "Crash Fixes v12 vs horse skeleton.hkx" situation (scroll up to top of page).

2. you have too many animations installed.

 

I'll try the horse skeleton thing (didn't try it initially since I figured it was exclusively near horses) and uninstalling some anims. Thanks for the quick reply!

 

 

Update: I think it was the animations. Took care of the horse skeleton anyway but also got rid of some packs that were superfluous. Seems to be working fine now! Thanks again

[shadow866]

This has problaby nothing to do with this mod but who knows. Anyways maybe this is the wrong place to ask but.

What would cause dwarven sphere to stop animations/attacking?

They are hostile since combat music starts but they arent not moving.

They are all transformed into their standing form but still not moving at all. I can go up to them and hit them until they die without them fighting back.

Its the only creature thats acting like that. Every other creature works like they are suppose to.

 

Thanks for your time

[Dameth]

Is there somewhere a collection of the previews of all MNC animations ?

[MadMansGun]

5 hours ago, shadow866 said:

This has problaby nothing to do with this mod but who knows. Anyways maybe this is the wrong place to ask but.

What would cause dwarven sphere to stop animations/attacking?

They are hostile since combat music starts but they arent not moving.

They are all transformed into their standing form but still not moving at all. I can go up to them and hit them until they die without them fighting back.

Its the only creature thats acting like that. Every other creature works like they are suppose to.

 

Thanks for your time

a missing "SLSF1_Skinned" flag in the mesh's BSLightingShaderProperty can do that easily, but so can a bad behavior file (Data\meshes\actors\dwarvenspherecenturion\behaviors\scbehavior.hkx)

 

1 hour ago, Dameth said:

Is there somewhere a collection of the previews of all MNC animations ?

well...there are some screenshots on the original mod page, but i don't have any videos if that's what your asking.