quest Thief

[Delzaron]

interesting bug : after i killed the werewolf, tiodvar thanks me about it... but now he seems blocked into a scene.

Maybe it's because I have come back with a sword in my inventory ?

 

Edit : found : Tulvar is bugged. If i disable player controls, he refind his package.

 

I progressed, and now I need to pay Roan dept... I tried to go in the brothel, but I have no options to work here... and I can't sleep anymore : do I need to try several tasks ?

[brewmasterhal]

4 hours ago, Garret012 said:

He repeats his usual dialogue from the main hall: "i'd prefer to die in war", something about rata etc. I just can't initiate dialogue with him

I encountered a similar bug.  The fix is to run the following two console commands:

    setpqv hp_sw_h_valasman vms_quest_stage 50

    startscene XX408c6c

Be sure you're standing near Burd when you try to start the scene.

 

2 hours ago, Delzaron said:

interesting bug : after i killed the werewolf, tiodvar thanks me about it... but now he seems blocked into a scene.

Maybe it's because I have come back with a sword in my inventory ?

 

Edit : found : Tulvar is bugged. If i disable player controls, he refind his package.

 

I progressed, and now I need to pay Roan dept... I tried to go in the brothel, but I have no options to work here... and I can't sleep anymore : do I need to try several tasks ?

 

The command you're probably looking for is setpqv bd_sq_sw istired true

[Garret012]

11 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

I encountered a similar bug.  The fix is to run the following two console commands:

    setpqv hp_sw_h_valasman vms_quest_stage 50

    startscene XX408c6c

Be sure you're standing near Burd when you try to start the scene.

 

 

The command you're probably looking for is setpqv bd_sq_sw istired true

That worked, you're awesome. But I have a similar problem when inviting the riekling to drink. After I buy the ale I cant talk to the riekling, it's like olaf doesn't give me the ale, but he charges me the coin. I tried adding rhe ale via console to my inventory, but the same happens. I guess I have to force the scene again, but I don't know the id of the scene

[Garret012]

2 hours ago, Garret012 said:

That worked, you're awesome. But I have a similar problem when inviting the riekling to drink. After I buy the ale I cant talk to the riekling, it's like olaf doesn't give me the ale, but he charges me the coin. I tried adding rhe ale via console to my inventory, but the same happens. I guess I have to force the scene again, but I don't know the id of the scene

I believe 2 mugs should appear, but they don't appear. Is there a way to activate an acti object through console?

[brewmasterhal]

6 hours ago, Garret012 said:

I believe 2 mugs should appear, but they don't appear. Is there a way to activate an acti object through console?

There is not - we've tried it before.

 

Try startscene XX420407 - should jump directly to the drinking.

[poblivion]

First, I really enjoyed this mod very much.

 

I really liked the fact that player character changed the facial expression according to the current situation. Facial expressions are very well done, so I wondered if it would be possible to extract it and use it as a standalone mod ?

[Nazzzgul666]

Maybe i'm blind or something, but currently all i can find in downloads are some .txt files appearently? The post from Brewmaster says i still need the basic version of the mod, but.... where would i get that?

[killer905]

55 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Maybe i'm blind or something, but currently all i can find in downloads are some .txt files appearently? The post from Brewmaster says i still need the basic version of the mod, but.... where would i get that?

Open this txt file, you should have a link to Mega and Google Drive there.

[kakaer]

4 hours ago, poblivion said:

First, I really enjoyed this mod very much.

 

I really liked the fact that player character changed the facial expression according to the current situation. Facial expressions are very well done, so I wondered if it would be possible to extract it and use it as a standalone mod ?

Honestly? My character always has the same expression. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? The setting is checked.

[Highborn]

1 minute ago, kakaer said:

Honestly? My character always has the same expression. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? The setting is checked.

You can change to default expression in the Mcm menu

[Nazzzgul666]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

Open this txt file, you should have a link to Mega and Google Drive there.

Oh, thanks. Because it said txt in the file title i thought it's just some translation stuff or something like that. Yay!

[kakaer]

9 hours ago, Highborn said:

You can change to default expression in the Mcm menu

That is precisely the expression she is showing at all times. 

[fan8512]

On 11/24/2019 at 12:18 PM, brewmasterhal said:

If you failed the mini game, you can use any method to add a "Memory Potion" to your inventory.  If you return to the bed in the bunkhouse and drink the potion, you get a scene where you remember what happened while you were blacked out.

I used the potion many times,and it doesn't work.

Is there anybody have the save file that could trigger this scene?

[Highborn]

5 hours ago, kakaer said:

That is precisely the expression she is showing at all times. 

Then, you’re experiencing a bug.

1 hour ago, fan8512 said:

I used the potion many times,and it doesn't work.

Is there anybody have the save file that could trigger this scene?

Try to search in this topic about the memory potion. I posted the console command long time ago to trigger this scene. I’m on my phone now, so searching function sucks right now.

 

[theliddtin]

8 hours ago, kakaer said:

That is precisely the expression she is showing at all times. 

Do you have mfgconsole installed? That was what solved my issue

[Nazzzgul666]

nvm, me stupid.

[brewmasterhal]

12 hours ago, fan8512 said:

I used the potion many times,and it doesn't work.

Is there anybody have the save file that could trigger this scene?

10 hours ago, Highborn said:

Try to search in this topic about the memory potion. I posted the console command long time ago to trigger this scene. I’m on my phone now, so searching function sucks right now.

 

 

It's in the FAQ under Common Issues, near the bottom.

[Jessie_BR]

Hello everyone, I am trying to play the mod(loving so far) all by myself without looking at guides and stuff here, but I guess I reached a point that I am about to lose my mind lol is just some details, hopefully someone can help me out...

 

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So before anything...I was playing the game normally, reached the part that I have to take the dream catcher from the Yarls house and fight Zoe, but somehow my save file got corrupted, every time I tried to load it, I was getting back to the desktop, not sure what happened...so since I wasnt in the mood to restart all over again with a new character, I started the mod with my "normal super immersive" save file(no sex mods or anything lol)...and I decided to begin the quest at .8 or 81(the one were you have to the take the dream catcher)...but with that save I had allready played the Civil war...and Stormclocks had won...while Zoe did comment about it, I couldnt enter in the Yarl house, and the guard wasnt there as well...couldnt figure it out what to do other then try to "break" the game by getting inside with console commands...decided to restart, but this time starting with .9 version....

 

Here were most of my questions will start...gonna try to keep it short

1º I started and left the blacksmith house after the scene, since I had all points unlocked on this save, I just fast travelled to Solitude...did I miss something?

 

2º When I got there, my game crashed once during mid play, but I got diferent choices in some events, so I wonder what I did that could had affect it...

- First time I talked to the cheese old man and the bards...when the bards played their songs, I said that I liked the lute player better, and agreed to kiss him...after I started with the side quest to aid the cheese merchant, and when I reached the pirates, after beating the orc lady and sleeping with the pirate Leader, I had the option to confess what I was after, and the Leader would just give me the Helmet. After this my game crashed...

-Second time I did basically everything the same, with the exception that I told that both bards were great players, and kissed both of them...but when I went to the Pirate, I couldnt talk to him about him giving me his helmet, so I was forced to kill him...

 

3º I helped the Bard to get inside by distracting the guard at the gate, and got the permission to the cheese merchant...and didnt went with him, instead I went to talk to the man that was carrying the boxes in the port...asked for his aid, but he refuses...tried to interact with the boxes around the port and on the ships, but I couldnt...I went back to the guard at the game, and he apparently, even if I had given my permission to the cheese merchant, I still had in on my inventory, so I could enter the Solitude...my game bugged? The other NPC at the port should be able to get me in town?

 

4º Inside Solitude I found the cheese merchant, Vaggi I guess is his name, and he gives a share of his profit for my help...also he invites me to go the tavern later, I dont have options here, and my character just says she is to busy at the moment...I try to talk to him to see if I can trigger other conversations but nothing happen...I go back to him at 8pm(when the merchants close their stores) and theres no conversation about the tavern, and he goes to sleep under his stand...I visit the tavern to see if he is there, but nothing again...theres any scene with him?

 

5º I found the bards at the college, but both of them just thank me for the help, and theres no other conversation or scene....did I miss something?

 

6º I found Madame petit place on the winking skeever(that just a mini game right?)...I start working there, but I can only do 3 clients, even if my "performance" is the best, none of them gave me gifts...and after the 3º client, theres no new ones, but a orc that stand on the corner saying something about drink...I bought some Black Brier Reserve from the innkeeper at the winking skeever thinking that would do the trick, but nothing...so how do I progress now?

 

[Highborn]

35 minutes ago, Jessie_BR said:

Hello everyone, I am trying to play the mod(loving so far) all by myself without looking at guides and stuff here, but I guess I reached a point that I am about to lose my mind lol is just some details, hopefully someone can help me out...

 

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So before anything...I was playing the game normally, reached the part that I have to take the dream catcher from the Yarls house and fight Zoe, but somehow my save file got corrupted, every time I tried to load it, I was getting back to the desktop, not sure what happened...so since I wasnt in the mood to restart all over again with a new character, I started the mod with my "normal super immersive" save file(no sex mods or anything lol)...and I decided to begin the quest at .8 or 81(the one were you have to the take the dream catcher)...but with that save I had allready played the Civil war...and Stormclocks had won...while Zoe did comment about it, I couldnt enter in the Yarl house, and the guard wasnt there as well...couldnt figure it out what to do other then try to "break" the game by getting inside with console commands...decided to restart, but this time starting with .9 version....

 

Here were most of my questions will start...gonna try to keep it short

1º I started and left the blacksmith house after the scene, since I had all points unlocked on this save, I just fast travelled to Solitude...did I miss something?

 

2º When I got there, my game crashed once during mid play, but I got diferent choices in some events, so I wonder what I did that could had affect it...

- First time I talked to the cheese old man and the bards...when the bards played their songs, I said that I liked the lute player better, and agreed to kiss him...after I started with the side quest to aid the cheese merchant, and when I reached the pirates, after beating the orc lady and sleeping with the pirate Leader, I had the option to confess what I was after, and the Leader would just give me the Helmet. After this my game crashed...

-Second time I did basically everything the same, with the exception that I told that both bards were great players, and kissed both of them...but when I went to the Pirate, I couldnt talk to him about him giving me his helmet, so I was forced to kill him...

 

3º I helped the Bard to get inside by distracting the guard at the gate, and got the permission to the cheese merchant...and didnt went with him, instead I went to talk to the man that was carrying the boxes in the port...asked for his aid, but he refuses...tried to interact with the boxes around the port and on the ships, but I couldnt...I went back to the guard at the game, and he apparently, even if I had given my permission to the cheese merchant, I still had in on my inventory, so I could enter the Solitude...my game bugged? The other NPC at the port should be able to get me in town?

 

4º Inside Solitude I found the cheese merchant, Vaggi I guess is his name, and he gives a share of his profit for my help...also he invites me to go the tavern later, I dont have options here, and my character just says she is to busy at the moment...I try to talk to him to see if I can trigger other conversations but nothing happen...I go back to him at 8pm(when the merchants close their stores) and theres no conversation about the tavern, and he goes to sleep under his stand...I visit the tavern to see if he is there, but nothing again...theres any scene with him?

 

5º I found the bards at the college, but both of them just thank me for the help, and theres no other conversation or scene....did I miss something?

 

6º I found Madame petit place on the winking skeever(that just a mini game right?)...I start working there, but I can only do 3 clients, even if my "performance" is the best, none of them gave me gifts...and after the 3º client, theres no new ones, but a orc that stand on the corner saying something about drink...I bought some Black Brier Reserve from the innkeeper at the winking skeever thinking that would do the trick, but nothing...so how do I progress now?

 

 

First, I never played this quest with the Stormcloak scenario, but I believe Dogma made changes to the quest in case Dengeir is the jarl. I don't know how you trigger the part to get the dream catcher though, as this whole part of the quest relies on the fact that Siddgeir throws parties at the Jarl's longhouse and there is a guard guarding his bedroom, where the dream catcher is. But sounds like you got a bug, if there was no way to enter the longhouse. Keep in mind that you shouldn't load a save that had Thief old versions previously installed, or else you get bugs. But it doesn't look like it's the case here.

 

Answering your questions:

 

1. When you go to Solitude, instead of fast traveling, you can hire a carriage outside Falkreath with a new character added by the mod. You'll soon notice that you can have a (long) sex scene with him in the road. Mods that alter Rorikstead or the road might conflict with it though, so you might want to disable them.

 

2. The way you interact with the bards shouldn't change anything regarding the pirates side quest. But maybe when you were first talking with the guard captain at the docks, you forgot to select the option that triggers the line about the helmet being enough to convince him that you had dealt with them. It shows after you say you dealt with them and he asks about "proof". Then, the option to ask Haki to give his helmet should appear after you approach them.

 

3. The man carrying the boxes will refuse helping you, but you should be able to activate the East Empire Company boxes near the stairway to the docks, besides the place Vittoria Vici is supposed to stay. When you select those boxes, the prompt to hide inside them should appear. If they don't, then something is not working correctly. This option should be available as soon as the man starts carrying those boxes around.

 

4 and 5. His date option will only be available later when you learn about Varg the Fixer, you'll have to steal a certain item from this guy. When you go to Varg's house, you should be able to find a way into his back yard, climbing an ivy, and when you approach the window, you'll get a prompt asking to see inside, and then, if you want to enter the house. Back off and then your character should say something about learning Varg's routine first. Then you should be able to recruit not only Viggi, but the bards to help you with this. You can get scenes with them.

 

6. Iirc, the gifts should be given randomly. I think you can only get 3 clients a day, so you might have to make the time pass by waiting or sleeping. But maybe it's a bug. The orc should be available for later, after you learn about an item you need to steal.

 

 

[Jessie_BR]

22 minutes ago, Highborn said:

 

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First, I never played this quest with the Stormcloak scenario, but I believe Dogma made changes to the quest in case Dengeir is the jarl. I don't know how you trigger the part to get the dream catcher though, as this whole part of the quest relies on the fact that Siddgeir throws parties at the Jarl's longhouse and there is a guard guarding his bedroom, where the dream catcher is. But sounds like you got a bug, if there was no way to enter the longhouse. Keep in mind that you shouldn't load a save that had Thief old versions previously installed, or else you get bugs. But it doesn't look like it's the case here.

 

Answering your questions:

 

1. When you go to Solitude, instead of fast traveling, you can hire a carriage outside Falkreath with a new character added by the mod. You'll soon notice that you can have a (long) sex scene with him in the road. Mods that alter Rorikstead or the road might conflict with it though, so you might want to disable them.

 

2. The way you interact with the bards shouldn't change anything regarding the pirates side quest. But maybe when you were first talking with the guard captain at the docks, you forgot to select the option that triggers the line about the helmet being enough to convince him that you had dealt with them. It shows after you say you dealt with them and he asks about "proof". Then, the option to ask Haki to give his helmet should appear after you approach them.

 

3. The man carrying the boxes will refuse helping you, but you should be able to activate the East Empire Company boxes near the stairway to the docks, besides the place Vittoria Vici is supposed to stay. When you select those boxes, the prompt to hide inside them should appear. If they don't, then something is not working correctly. This option should be available as soon as the man starts carrying those boxes around.

 

4 and 5. His date option will only be available later when you learn about Varg the Fixer, you'll have to steal a certain item from this guy. When you go to Varg's house, you should be able to find a way into his back yard, climbing an ivy, and when you approach the window, you'll get a prompt asking to see inside, and then, if you want to enter the house. Back off and then your character should say something about learning Varg's routine first. Then you should be able to recruit not only Viggi, but the bards to help you with this. You can get scenes with them.

 

6. Iirc, the gifts should be given randomly. I think you can only get 3 clients a day, so you might have to make the time pass by waiting or sleeping. But maybe it's a bug. The orc should be available for later, after you learn about an item you need to steal.

 

 

Thank you!

 

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Ahhh guess I missed some content then for skipping to Solitude by fast travelling...that sucks lol

And yeah, about the pirates I believe the first time I talked all the options with the captain guard before going to them, while the second time I just said I was gonna deal with them, that might be why I had less options.

I probably missed those boxes, since I looked more around the ships.

Might be for the better finish this run and start a fresh new one, looks like I missed some stuff for using the skip option and doing a blind run haha

 

Thank you again!

[Nazzzgul666]

It's been a while since i've searched for fixes like that... i arrived i Whiterun and got the new clothes for work, but appearenly the meshes are missing, my body became invisible. I do have a couple of armor/replacer mods and it's possible something went wrong there or is just missing, although in general the replacer seems to work fine. Could somebody give me a hint where to check? Does Thief has bodyslide files i'd need to build?

[brewmasterhal]

23 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

It's been a while since i've searched for fixes like that... i arrived i Whiterun and got the new clothes for work, but appearenly the meshes are missing, my body became invisible. I do have a couple of armor/replacer mods and it's possible something went wrong there or is just missing, although in general the replacer seems to work fine. Could somebody give me a hint where to check? Does Thief has bodyslide files i'd need to build?

Did you install Dogma - Thief Extras - Custom Wench.esp and fail to create a custom outfit?

 

2 hours ago, Jessie_BR said:

So before anything...I was playing the game normally, reached the part that I have to take the dream catcher from the Yarls house and fight Zoe, but somehow my save file got corrupted, every time I tried to load it, I was getting back to the desktop, not sure what happened...so since I wasnt in the mood to restart all over again with a new character, I started the mod with my "normal super immersive" save file(no sex mods or anything lol)...and I decided to begin the quest at .8 or 81(the one were you have to the take the dream catcher)...but with that save I had allready played the Civil war...and Stormclocks had won...while Zoe did comment about it, I couldnt enter in the Yarl house, and the guard wasnt there as well...couldnt figure it out what to do other then try to "break" the game by getting inside with console commands...decided to restart, but this time starting with .9 version....

1 hour ago, Highborn said:

First, I never played this quest with the Stormcloak scenario, but I believe Dogma made changes to the quest in case Dengeir is the jarl. I don't know how you trigger the part to get the dream catcher though, as this whole part of the quest relies on the fact that Siddgeir throws parties at the Jarl's longhouse and there is a guard guarding his bedroom, where the dream catcher is. But sounds like you got a bug, if there was no way to enter the longhouse. Keep in mind that you shouldn't load a save that had Thief old versions previously installed, or else you get bugs. But it doesn't look like it's the case here.

 

You talk to Dengeir in the tavern and ask him to let you in.

[Jessie_BR]

10 minutes ago, brewmasterhal said:

Did you install Dogma - Thief Extras - Custom Wench.esp and fail to create a custom outfit?

 

 

You talk to Dengeir in the tavern and ask him to let you in.

Oh, never thought about looking for him on the tavern...thanks! But still, a Stormcloak game bypass the whole side quest about the archer that is shooting down the imperials patrols right?

[namjey]

On 1/9/2020 at 6:24 AM, Vaerrwynn said:

Yes to all of the questions.

did you figure out the problem? I have exactly they same problem with viggi....

 

 

Please need some help here!

[RelTherma]

And now I am having the bug with the werewolf just holding me there after i "dump" my gear. I am using v.95.97 and I have tried all the tricks I have read about, the moveto commands and all that x.x