WickedWhims

[LavenderCat]

8 minutes ago, 0PoisonPink0 said:

And I love how people go to such lengths to defend a p*do. I don't need to condemn anyone for life, he did all that to himself, he is no victim and these are the consequences of his actions. He did something abhorrent and those of us who've been in the sims modding scene at least since that shit started happening in this very same forum saw it all and you can't simply expect us to forgive and forget. You can't also expect TD to forgive him after doing what he did with his work. Newer members coming into the sims community deserve to know what happened and make informed decisions.

 

The only mod that "broke" was CN's and with a good reason. If you didn't use any of that nothing happened to your game and even if you did the effect it had wasn't different from having a mod conflict, don't be an alarmist.

 

Oops19'sPrivacy Protector? The mod that uses S4CL, CN's library? Coincidence? I think not. The only tracker that you can put in a sims mod are those that the paywallers from the doxxing scandal used: files that are personalized and delivered individually to each patron and contain minimal variation in the package's textures, color swatches, etc that that only the creator knows about, not fucking spyware as you seen to be suggesting.

 

Also I'll tell you the same I told the other person: use some reading comprehension because nowhere I said that DD specifically had CP, only CNWW.

 

But I'll stop it here, there's no point in further arguing with people like you, you're too far gone. It doesn't matter what proof we show you, it will never be enough for you, but it is there for those who actually care.

Do me one, just *one* favor:

Get the old CNWW code from Turbo.

If CN really did tamper with the code, it's best that TD keeps a copy of that code for irrefutable evidence. All TD has to do it post it (not screenshots of it, not screenshots of private discord chats or random internet pages). Once TD shares the code, I'll never ask for it again.

You carry the burden of proof because you are spreading these claims (TurboDriver also carries the Burden Of Proof because they made the claims), so *please*, prove to me and the rest of the world that these claims are irrefutably true.

All I ask for is the original source code that proves it was manipulated WW code that allowed for pedophilia.

[xRina89x]

8 minutes ago, WvBE said:

You can try to use an older WW version, wait for a WW update with fix or remove WW altogether only options I can think of at the moment it seems the problem is the v170i version i believe v170h was still ok.

I just started a whole new game. My households previously saved in the library.

So far it seems to be working again. The whole save file was probably broken.

I'll keep an eye on it and then come back to your tip, thank you very much ?

[KerrineR]

every time I click a household, the loading screen loops back to the world map

lastException_63795169340.txt Nisas_Last_Exception.txt

[SoCalExile]

1 hour ago, 0PoisonPink0 said:

And I love how people go to such lengths to defend a p*do. I don't need to condemn anyone for life, he did all that to himself, he is no victim and these are the consequences of his actions. He did something abhorrent and those of us who've been in the sims modding scene at least since that shit started happening in this very same forum saw it all and you can't simply expect us to forgive and forget. You can't also expect TD to forgive him after doing what he did with his work. Newer members coming into the sims community deserve to know what happened and make informed decisions.

 

The only mod that "broke" was CN's and with a good reason. If you didn't use any of that nothing happened to your game and even if you did the effect it had wasn't different from having a mod conflict, don't be an alarmist.

 

Oops19'sPrivacy Protector? The mod that uses S4CL, CN's library? Coincidence? I think not. The only tracker that you can put in a sims mod are those that the paywallers from the doxxing scandal used: files that are personalized and delivered individually to each patron and contain minimal variation in the package's textures, color swatches, etc that that only the creator knows about, not fucking spyware as you seen to be suggesting.

 

Also I'll tell you the same I told the other person: use some reading comprehension because nowhere I said that DD specifically had CP, only CNWW.

 

But I'll stop it here, there's no point in further arguing with people like you, you're too far gone. It doesn't matter what proof we show you, it will never be enough for you, but it is there for those who actually care.

 

LOL you're repeating the same accusations that to me, have really little to no basis of evidence, in a document that clearly manipulated evidence on the transphobia accusation. So why the fuck should I trust the pedo accusation?

The only evidence of him being pedo you have is a couple edited screens reportedly from years ago....of video game mods. Seriously. Yet Sacrificial gets a pass on killing kids? Nisa gets a pass on slavery? If mods condemn people Turbo has no moral high ground, neither does anyone associated with WW or MCCC (or anyone on LL for that matter). Those guys at best are cherry picking moral causes with shit for evidence...in a video game. ?

If code was plagiarized, why not post a comparison of the code? 

 

Deliberately breaking other mods is a violation of trust. It's not up to Turbo or anyone else what mods anyone can use. 

 

ETA: Funny that all this moral hand-wringing is against the only rival mod of a guy that makes it his livelihood. He literally has a HUGE financial interest in making his competitor a pariah. It's a conflict of interest and what he provides as evidence is easily manipulated innuendo. Post the code.  

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by SoCalExile

[Nighty75]

Ok, after testing a while, the bugs occurred again. Start from the scratch also led to the already known problems. The Basegame problems are already fixed. Now it's TD's turn.

[SoCalExile]

Apparently this only applies to Turbo-approved mods:

 

[Euripides]

Two things to report:

 

1.  Playing a new save, with the EA hotfix.  everything seemed normal until I ran into the groundhog day bug after shift-clicking a visiting sim and opening them in CAS.  Upon exiting CAS, boom! I am now in the visiting sim's apartment and all relationships/game time have been reset, along with WW settings going to default and WW seems to think it's the first time I have run with the mod.  No other mods seem to be exhibiting this sort of behavior.  Hope this helps with debugging.

 

2.  A reddit user reports a possible workaround is to "save as" before transitioning lots, CAS, going to Manage Worlds, etc., and using a new file each time.  I haven't tried this and it sounds like a pain in the ass, but maybe it keeps you from losing progress.  This could also possibly help with debugging.

 

The EA forum moderators seem to think the problem is mod-related (of course), because no console players are reporting the issue. 

[merkle]

On 8/1/2022 at 6:21 PM, sushi said:

Hmm, last night one sim asked the other sim their preferences.  It showed up at the top of their Sim Profile afterwards.

You get a notification, but unless you have a very good memory, that doesn't help much later on.  I hadn't thought to look in the profile, though.  Muchas Gracias.

[mrinku]

I don't know if this will help anyone, but I was finding old saves would let my Teens have sex but a new one (started yesterday) would not, even with the patch and (as far as I could tell) all the right settings in WW switched on.  Adding the "Post-Puberty" trait had no effect, either.

 

Fixed it by exporting WW settings from an older save and importing those into the fresh game. Most likely I missed a setting, but who knows?

Edited August 3, 2022 by mrinku

[procian]

10 hours ago, simsupremo said:

WHAT!!!! Too much for me... But what do you mean with DD? What DD means?

DD = Devious Desires.

[acevn]

HEEYY, NOW UPDATE HAS BROKEN RIG!

[merkle]

22 minutes ago, Euripides said:

Two things to report:

 

1.  Playing a new save, with the EA hotfix.  everything seemed normal until I ran into the groundhog day bug after shift-clicking a visiting sim and opening them in CAS.  Upon exiting CAS, boom! I am now in the visiting sim's apartment and all relationships/game time have been reset, along with WW settings going to default and WW seems to think it's the first time I have run with the mod.  No other mods seem to be exhibiting this sort of behavior.  Hope this helps with debugging.

 

2.  A reddit user reports a possible workaround is to "save as" before transitioning lots, CAS, going to Manage Worlds, etc., and using a new file each time.  I haven't tried this and it sounds like a pain in the ass, but maybe it keeps you from losing progress.  This could also possibly help with debugging.

 

The EA forum moderators seem to think the problem is mod-related (of course), because no console players are reporting the issue. 

This is strange.  I'm not seeing any problems with saving or CAS.  You must have some mods that I don't have that are causing the problem.  EA made significant changes to CAS.  I had a problem with disappearing swatches for clothes, but traced it down the the "More columns" mod, which needed updating. 

[Guest]

8 hours ago, 0PoisonPink0 said:

 

Hello reading comprehension???? Tell me where did I exactly say that DD contained that? Please go back to my post and read it again, this time carefully, because if you had done that  the 1st time you would have realized that I said that he modified WW.

DD wasn't even a thing back then when this started, it was a modular mod called CNWW that he uploaded here and on the p*do site.

 

Also before he was permanently banned for stealing code from others mods, the admins deleted his mod and warned him more several times. One of them was because he accidentally forgot to remove the p*do stuff from the LL version.

And bold of you to assume that those sickos wouldn't modify the rigs themselves to include "additional" bones

 

Read all the above

 

Can you send, privately, a link to this page? It is enough to ban the author but has to be verified by the staff.

[smashl66]

Using EA hotfix patch & WW1.70i & IU, no WP, no MCC, no School DLC.

Well my game ran fine for about 5+ hours, saved in any situation and loaded exactly when and where I saved.

CAS seem to be working fine, no resets after exiting CAS.

Nothing disaappearing from inventory, no WW setting being reset.

 

But...

My household of 4 romantically maxed sims all started getting jealous of each other all of a sudden out of the blue.

So I used WW to apply wicked attributes to all males...

That ended my smooth sailing.

My Teen no longer had options for WW, the other house members all acted screwy as if there was no ramance anymore.

 

Basically I just deleted my game and game save and restored my game back to v1.89.214.1030 & WW 1.70g (for me that's where I enjoyed the game the most and it felt predictable).

I'm done with that screwy EA update/School DLC and WW 1.70i and it's screwy behaiour for now.

Honestly they are both trash as far as I'm concerned, I tried to love that nerfed WW 1.70i as much as possible, but nah, not worth the effort.

 

My TS4 will be in offline mode indefinitely for now.

Edited August 3, 2022 by smashl66

[MrGrey]

9 hours ago, 0PoisonPink0 said:

 

Hello reading comprehension???? Tell me where did I exactly say that DD contained that? Please go back to my post and read it again, this time carefully, because if you had done that  the 1st time you would have realized that I said that he modified WW.

DD wasn't even a thing back then when this started, it was a modular mod called CNWW that he uploaded here and on the p*do site.

 

Also before he was permanently banned for stealing code from others mods, the admins deleted his mod and warned him more several times. One of them was because he accidentally forgot to remove the p*do stuff from the LL version.

And bold of you to assume that those sickos wouldn't modify the rigs themselves to include "additional" bones

 

Read all the above

Thanks. That explains it. You could have been more civil as this is not common knowledge, but you've made a very convincing case. I don't visit whatever site this is.

Edited August 3, 2022 by MrGrey

[MrGrey]

8 hours ago, The Masked Moddess said:

LMAO, The "Iron clad crystal clear almighty OFFICIAL POLICY" every Reddit commie was citing in the past days just got amended... So you were saying what? 

 

https://help.ea.com/en/help/the-sims/the-sims-4/mods-and-the-sims-4-game-updates/

So every time EA breaks a mod with an update, that version will become the public version and the fix the early access version.

Turbo doesn't do this, he goes by features and maintains two different versions, which is double the work; but other mod authors with the perma-pay wall will be doing it.

[Red Lilibet]

On 8/1/2022 at 8:40 PM, The Masked Moddess said:

Bwahahahahaha I keep this picture if you don't mind. That's simply great!!

To be fair I don't think these negative reviews are deserved. I don't like TD's new policy towards teens at all, however WW it's not just teens. TD has done a lot to improve WW over the years while working on this. I understand this is a way for people to express their disapproval. Yet this does not negate all his work.

[BTSAddicts]

Before the patch, NPC Sims were always clean if you met her again, it would be nice if you

could put that back in, or have I overlooked a setting?

I don't really need teenage sex, but I think they took that out for fear of EA. I prefer the mod to remain

without teenage sex than no wicken whims at all.

Thanks for the Amazing Mod and the always fast updates.

Edited August 3, 2022 by BTSAddicts

[carnation77]

1 hour ago, Red Lilibet said:

Bwahahahahaha I keep this picture if you don't mind. That's simply great!!

To be fair I don't think these negative reviews are deserved. I don't like TD's new policy towards teens at all, however WW it's not just teens. TD has done a lot to improve WW over the years while working on this. I understand this is a way for people to express their disapproval. Yet this does not negate all his work.

The amount of people that, judging by their whining, is obsessed with teen sex is staggering. ?

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by carnation77

[bigbobbby]

4 hours ago, smashl66 said:

Basically I just deleted my game and game save and restored my game back to v1.89.214.1030 & WW 1.70g

How do you restore your game to a previous version? I feel the same thing, before this version it was working much better.

[Gambit]

8 hours ago, 0PoisonPink0 said:

The only tracker that you can put in a sims mod are those that the paywallers from the doxxing scandal used: files that are personalized and delivered individually to each patron and contain minimal variation in the package's textures, color swatches, etc that that only the creator knows about, not fucking spyware as you seen to be suggesting.

 

 

Wrong, as mod could have python code. Even with limited libraries you could do a great harm to a computer. Like downloading hostile code and executing it., nuking their mod folder... The imagination is the limit.

 

About doxing, harrassement etc : https://www.change.org/p/electronic-arts-protect-sims-4-players-from-doxxing-cyber-harrassment-and-permapaywalling-some-sims-4-cc

[Despairing Poet]

4 minutes ago, carnation77 said:

The amount of people that, judging but their whining, is obsessed with teen sex is staggering. ?

 

Yeah... and a bit disturbing too. Damn, I'm starting to come across as "judgey" too... I apologize to anyone I've offended by that statement. We are all here for the same exact mod which places us in a community that perhaps may draw negative attention from others who really don't understand why most people play using a NSFW mod at all.
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NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE PERSON, JUST ME SPEAKING OPENLY HERE AND NOT ON TB BEHALF/OR REQUEST: opinion incoming! 

But we all need to be thankful for Turbo not throwing his hands up at ungracious "guests" at his table and walking away from WW altogether. He could have. He hasn't. I hope he won't. (I don't think he even is considering that option at this point, but my brain works at worst case scenarios at the speed of light constantly)...
But not everyone is demanding teen sex. Not everyone ever even wanted that. I think it's more about freedom of expression and storytelling more than anything else that has the majority of people questioning why the decisions were made as they were.

 It's just that this particular issue seems to be what a few people circle around and obsess about. Let's do something different people, let's use our "imaginations". Take a young adult, (since they look like the teen model pretty much anyway) and PRETEND they are 18-19. I really don't see why it must be "teen" if everything else remains the same. Pretend they are really smart (give them the genius trait or something) and head them off to Uni... 
Just really doesn't feel like a deal breaker to me, I guess. 

[SysGhost]

14 minutes ago, Despairing Poet said:

Yeah... and a bit disturbing too. Damn, I'm starting to come across as "judgey" too... I apologize to anyone I've offended by that statement. We are all here for the same exact mod which places us in a community that perhaps may draw negative attention from others who really don't understand why most people play using a NSFW mod at all.
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NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE PERSON, JUST ME SPEAKING OPENLY HERE AND NOT ON TB BEHALF/OR REQUEST: opinion incoming! 

But we all need to be thankful for Turbo not throwing his hands up at ungracious "guests" at his table and walking away from WW altogether. He could have. He hasn't. I hope he won't. (I don't think he even is considering that option at this point, but my brain works at worst case scenarios at the speed of light constantly)...
But not everyone is demanding teen sex. Not everyone ever even wanted that. I think it's more about freedom of expression and storytelling more than anything else that has the majority of people questioning why the decisions were made as they were.

 It's just that this particular issue seems to be what a few people circle around and obsess about. Let's do something different people, let's use our "imaginations". Take a young adult, (since they look like the teen model pretty much anyway) and PRETEND they are 18-19. I really don't see why it must be "teen" if everything else remains the same. Pretend they are really smart (give them the genius trait or something) and head them off to Uni... 
Just really doesn't feel like a deal breaker to me, I guess. 

I do notice that as this is going on for longer, people seem to become more obsessed (heck, I noticed it with myself to).

And I think one thing that you mentioned is maybe the most important for most people: the question why.

Honestly, I think if TD maybe made a post or something explaining the thought process and why the decision was made, alot of people would probably be ok and move on.

But that is just what I think might be the case.

[Nightthing]

I couldn't believe my eyes at first. I thought it was a joke. It's just a shame.

I looked up to you and admired your work.

 

I thought you were one of us ...

 

It's not just about teenage sex. What the ban says is much higher and much worse. It takes us back to the 1800's where sex was forbidden and bad.

My god, it's a game.

What do you want to do next? Ban incest because it's immoral? And then? Ban ALL sex because the church says so???

 

I can't believe what's happening here.

Without sex you wouldn't be damned here. My mother had her first child when she was 17. My sister at 15.

 

Why are you making such a mess now? I could hide in Sims from my bad situation, from the crises, from the world.

You're also censoring the world of Sims 4 now. Sorry, but I hate you for that.

How you make the world worse now is just not okay. NOT okay.

 

[SticksStackStuck]

19 minutes ago, Nightthing said:

It's not just about teenage sex. What the ban says is much higher and much worse. It takes us back to the 1800's where sex was forbidden and bad.

 

1) Take a deep breath.

2) Install the inappropriate unlock

3) Remember that during Victoria times, the age of consent was raised to 13 in 1875 in Britain and to 16 in 1885, the sexual prudence is a modern American phenomenon.