toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved LE

monsta88 · November 5, 2016

v2.9 feedback

I know I was asked for it, but I'm not really happy with it. 2 reasons:

It is a bit loud, even on Quieter setting' It is much more dominant than the chains sound effect.

It sounds like a cow bell, not like a cat bell. I expected something like this: https://www.freesound.org/people/vedas/sounds/204827/

It's using the identical sound as the Anal Bell Chain, just minus the chain sound the anal device has. I was lazy and did not attempt to find a new .wav to use, but looks like you've done that for me Added to my list I will attempt this for next release.

I'm also already planning to add volume MCM settings... something like one for each of bell, chain, moan, scream, etc.

Thank you very much, I felt overly needy to ask for volume sliders for different sound effects.

I also noticed that the Nocturnal statue activation now equips everything, instead of equipping only those items which were on the character when she started the activation process. Is this a new feature?

This is not a change it always did that. I promise.

It uses the same logic for punishments where it removes unlockable (non-quest) other mod DD items, removes all Virgin items, then equips a few virgin items (think it's ankle, wrist, collar per your MCM settings). Then after its over, it re-equips using your MCM Device page settings. Exception to this... if any Tallows device is on, and you don't have the key for it yet (Tallows quest not complete), then these always stay on.

I see, then I had this experience because of the Tallows. It is not a big issue since at this point everyone has keys and even if they don't they can ask new ones from Nocturnal.

*VirginMarie* · November 5, 2016

This is not compatible with skyrim unbound (not a dragonborn), right? Without shouting you cant trigger events?! Or is there another way to play this?

Any vanilla game shout is needed to play this mod. I would think it's compatible because I just read in unbound's opening paragraph that it lets you play as the dragonborn.

I do most of my testing with http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9557/? and I can get a shout.

You can also use console commands to get a shout.

thomastm · November 5, 2016

cbbe bodyslider nipple clamp don't work? my body cbbe hdt & cos preset.

No problem reported before. Normally the nipple clamp works well with CBBE and UUNP HDT. I need a lot more info about the problem...

Are you seeing it in bodyslide? You should see 9 devices available in bodyslide.

Are you seeing a visual problem in game? If so please describe (or attach a pic)

Have you built with your preset using bodyslide?

What version of mod are you using?

What version of Bodyslide package are you using?

What is "cos" ?

Shout like a virgin v2.9 & Bodyslider cbbe v1.4

COS = Clams of Skyrim, just using the preset.

*VirginMarie* · November 5, 2016

cbbe bodyslider nipple clamp don't work? my body cbbe hdt & cos preset.

No problem reported before. Normally the nipple clamp works well with CBBE and UUNP HDT. I need a lot more info about the problem...

Are you seeing it in bodyslide? You should see 9 devices available in bodyslide.

Are you seeing a visual problem in game? If so please describe (or attach a pic)

Have you built with your preset using bodyslide?

What version of mod are you using?

What version of Bodyslide package are you using?

What is "cos" ?

Shout like a virgin v2.9 & Bodyslider cbbe v1.4

COS = Clams of Skyrim, just using the preset.

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Do the rest of the devices with bodyslide support look correct? I would half expect not. You can try switching to any device, even without the key, using the Device Tab in MCM.

I don't know anything about COS, but suspect this could be the problem.

You likely already know... you need your body to be built with the same preset. If it's not, that's going to be your problem.

If that's not the problem, just for the sake of testing, try a standard CBBE supplied preset... build your body and the nipple clamps with it. See if that works. If it works, I think this would confirm that the COS has something that conflicts.

If we think the problem is bodyslide, you really need to go to the mod author of the asset I use. You can see where each asset is from on the main page under Thanks & Credits. This one is from Heretical Resources. The bodyslide support for this is from that mod and if COS is not compatible, I can't fix but maybe that mod author can, or could tell you how to use it.

Do let me know what you find out. I want to try to help further if I can.

*VirginMarie* · November 5, 2016

v2.9 feedback

I know I was asked for it, but I'm not really happy with it. 2 reasons:

It is a bit loud, even on Quieter setting' It is much more dominant than the chains sound effect.

It sounds like a cow bell, not like a cat bell. I expected something like this: https://www.freesound.org/people/vedas/sounds/204827/

It's using the identical sound as the Anal Bell Chain, just minus the chain sound the anal device has. I was lazy and did not attempt to find a new .wav to use, but looks like you've done that for me Added to my list I will attempt this for next release.

I'm also already planning to add volume MCM settings... something like one for each of bell, chain, moan, scream, etc.

Thank you very much, I felt overly needy to ask for volume sliders for different sound effects.

Can you download and try this sound patch and tell me what you think?

Anyone wanting to try, just make sure you've installed 2.9 first, then this after, with "yes" to replacing any files.

It would be safe to undo this if you don't like it. Just reinstall 2.9 after, saying "yes" to replacing any files.

Device needs to be reset (or re-equipped), if already worn before the upgrade.

I've used your linked wav file after checking around, it's the only free, decent one I could fine. I've taken 4 very small time slices of that wav, and they play randomly. You made me learn how to do that stuff for the first time

So the piercing now has a distinct sound of it's own, different from the Anal Bell Chain. You can hear them both at once if you equip both.

Best test would be where you try:

On Noisy...

Chasity Piercing alone
Anal Bell Chain alone
Both of them together
Then add in one chain device
Then add in another chain device

Should be hearing things differently in each case.

Then repeat on "Quieter".

Note that Quieter does not touch volume, it only reduces frequency of the sounds. There's no volume controls yet. The Anal Bell Chain has chain and bell sounds on Noisy, but on Quieter, only bell.

As for volume controls, I need to learn how. Pretty sure I can do for the orgasm moans, and the screams. Not sure about doing for device sounds. We shall see.

Hello, I have a problem with Bodyslide. I can't build outfits in this mod with CBBE HDT. When I choose Virgin outfits I have nothing in preset.

See FAQ #11.

Most likely you are not using a recent version of Bodyslide.

Shout Like a Virgin V2.91soundPatch.7z

*VirginMarie* · November 5, 2016

Hello, I have a problem with Bodyslide. I can't build outfits in this mod with CBBE HDT. When I choose Virgin outfits I have nothing in preset.

See FAQ #11.

Most likely you are not using a recent version of Bodyslide.

I have the newest version of Bodyslide (4.0).

Oh I see 4.0 is very new. I just upgraded from bodyslide 3.8 to 4.0. Breaks it. Now I have your problem too.

I suggest use 3.8 (I see it's still available for DL).

Maybe 4.0 is bugged.

Maybe I need to do something to fix in the future.

EDIT: I found this posted with the 4.0 release notes.

Starting with v4.0, all outfits HAVE to be assigned to the master group of their corresponding body, such as the "CBAdvanced" group for CBBE or the "Unified UNP" group for UUNP. Otherwise there won't be any presets visible when having the outfit selected. See Group Manager for details.

I don't yet know what that means needs to be done, or if the end user can do it. But likely I can make it better in a future release, even if it's something you can do yourself. Simple route is to use the 3.8 version for now.

EDIT2: Got it figured out. I will likely upload new versions of bodyslide packages later today after testing it out some more.

*VirginMarie* · November 6, 2016

Oh I see 4.0 is very new. I just upgraded from bodyslide 3.8 to 4.0. Breaks it. Now I have your problem too.

I suggest use 3.8 (I see it's still available for DL).

Maybe 4.0 is bugged.

Maybe I need to do something to fix in the future.

EDIT: I found this posted with the 4.0 release notes.

Starting with v4.0, all outfits HAVE to be assigned to the master group of their corresponding body, such as the "CBAdvanced" group for CBBE or the "Unified UNP" group for UUNP. Otherwise there won't be any presets visible when having the outfit selected. See Group Manager for details.

I don't yet know what that means needs to be done, or if the end user can do it. But likely I can make it better in a future release, even if it's something you can do yourself. Simple route is to use the 3.8 version for now.

EDIT2: Got it figured out. I will likely upload new versions of bodyslide packages later today after testing it out some more.

Okay, thank you for help.

EDIT

I have next problem. When I complete 1 Deadrics trust me (in task virgin training) my character is frozen and Nocturnal don't speak to me.

In MCM Misc tab there's a "Reset Player" option.

If your character is ever stuck first try pressing and holding the Advance Hot Key (default spacebar).

If that does not work, then try the MCM Reset Player option.

If neither of those work, load your most recent save. Try again, and tell me if you still get stuck and we can then look deeper.

monsta88 · November 6, 2016

v2.9 feedback

I know I was asked for it, but I'm not really happy with it. 2 reasons:

It is a bit loud, even on Quieter setting' It is much more dominant than the chains sound effect.

It sounds like a cow bell, not like a cat bell. I expected something like this: https://www.freesound.org/people/vedas/sounds/204827/

It's using the identical sound as the Anal Bell Chain, just minus the chain sound the anal device has. I was lazy and did not attempt to find a new .wav to use, but looks like you've done that for me Added to my list I will attempt this for next release.

I'm also already planning to add volume MCM settings... something like one for each of bell, chain, moan, scream, etc.

Thank you very much, I felt overly needy to ask for volume sliders for different sound effects.

Can you download and try this sound patch and tell me what you think?

Anyone wanting to try, just make sure you've installed 2.9 first, then this after, with "yes" to replacing any files.

It would be safe to undo this if you don't like it. Just reinstall 2.9 after, saying "yes" to replacing any files.

Device needs to be reset (or re-equipped), if already worn before the upgrade.

I've used your linked wav file after checking around, it's the only free, decent one I could fine. I've taken 4 very small time slices of that wav, and they play randomly. You made me learn how to do that stuff for the first time

So the piercing now has a distinct sound of it's own, different from the Anal Bell Chain. You can hear them both at once if you equip both.

Best test would be where you try:

On Noisy...

Chasity Piercing alone

Anal Bell Chain alone

Both of them together

Then add in one chain device

Then add in another chain device

Should be hearing things differently in each case.

Then repeat on "Quieter".

Note that Quieter does not touch volume, it only reduces frequency of the sounds. There's no volume controls yet. The Anal Bell Chain has chain and bell sounds on Noisy, but on Quieter, only bell.

As for volume controls, I need to learn how. Pretty sure I can do for the orgasm moans, and the screams. Not sure about doing for device sounds. We shall see.

I did the testing. The following is only IMHO, so you might want to gather more feedback:

The new bell sound is spot on.
The volume is very good.
The Quieter setting works well, it is not too loud. While there is quite a lot of sound effects activating, they come when they are expected, so it is not distracting.
I tried the Noisy setting only now and I didn't like it. It is as the name implies, Noisy. For me, the sound effects come far too often. I know that if there wouldn't be options for this in the MCM, I'd delete the sound files (or replace them with mute ones). I can see myself getting annoyed by continously listening to this racket. Others might find immersive though, as I said, IMO.
Different devices have different sound effect, that works too.
I tried the anal bell (another 1st try) and that bell doesn't look like a cowbell either (as the sound effect suggests). Since I'm not using it, I'm okay with the current effect though.
Maybe consider lower the sound effect frequency for both Noisy and Quieter. I'm unsure about this tbh, it might be good as it is.

Thank you!

*VirginMarie* · November 6, 2016

v2.9 feedback

I know I was asked for it, but I'm not really happy with it. 2 reasons:

It is a bit loud, even on Quieter setting' It is much more dominant than the chains sound effect.

It sounds like a cow bell, not like a cat bell. I expected something like this: https://www.freesound.org/people/vedas/sounds/204827/

It's using the identical sound as the Anal Bell Chain, just minus the chain sound the anal device has. I was lazy and did not attempt to find a new .wav to use, but looks like you've done that for me Added to my list I will attempt this for next release.

I'm also already planning to add volume MCM settings... something like one for each of bell, chain, moan, scream, etc.

Thank you very much, I felt overly needy to ask for volume sliders for different sound effects.

Can you download and try this sound patch and tell me what you think?

Anyone wanting to try, just make sure you've installed 2.9 first, then this after, with "yes" to replacing any files.

It would be safe to undo this if you don't like it. Just reinstall 2.9 after, saying "yes" to replacing any files.

Device needs to be reset (or re-equipped), if already worn before the upgrade.

I've used your linked wav file after checking around, it's the only free, decent one I could fine. I've taken 4 very small time slices of that wav, and they play randomly. You made me learn how to do that stuff for the first time

So the piercing now has a distinct sound of it's own, different from the Anal Bell Chain. You can hear them both at once if you equip both.

Best test would be where you try:

On Noisy...

Chasity Piercing alone

Anal Bell Chain alone

Both of them together

Then add in one chain device

Then add in another chain device

Should be hearing things differently in each case.

Then repeat on "Quieter".

Note that Quieter does not touch volume, it only reduces frequency of the sounds. There's no volume controls yet. The Anal Bell Chain has chain and bell sounds on Noisy, but on Quieter, only bell.

As for volume controls, I need to learn how. Pretty sure I can do for the orgasm moans, and the screams. Not sure about doing for device sounds. We shall see.

I did the testing. The following is only IMHO, so you might want to gather more feedback:

The new bell sound is spot on.

The volume is very good.

The Quieter setting works well, it is not too loud. While there is quite a lot of sound effects activating, they come when they are expected, so it is not distracting.

I tried the Noisy setting only now and I didn't like it. It is as the name implies, Noisy. For me, the sound effects come far too often. I know that if there wouldn't be options for this in the MCM, I'd delete the sound files (or replace them with mute ones). I can see myself getting annoyed by continously listening to this racket. Others might find immersive though, as I said, IMO.

Different devices have different sound effect, that works too.

I tried the anal bell (another 1st try) and that bell doesn't look like a cowbell either (as the sound effect suggests). Since I'm not using it, I'm okay with the current effect though.

Maybe consider lower the sound effect frequency for both Noisy and Quieter. I'm unsure about this tbh, it might be good as it is.

Thank you!

If it was not for you I would not have made the improvement, and I really like it too.

I've completed adding volume sliders for next release, one each for Bell, Chain, Scream, and Orgasm/Moan. Even better as you can have the bell quieter than the chain, or whatever you like.

For frequency, I see the noisy as something that makes you appreciate the quieter . But now with the volume setting, the noisy is more viable. These are also hard to change so planning to leave as is. I've renamed "noisy" to "frequent" , and "Quieter" to "Less Frequent". And removed the "none" as you can now turn off by setting volume to 0.

Changing sound settings now no longer needs a re-equip. Np more auto resetting thing needed.

Lambda87 · November 6, 2016

Looks like a great mod but I am having problems at the start. I am stuck in the cage during the scene when nocturnal is summoned for the first time.

My character asks her "why did you do this", she replies to protect her virginity and then nothing happens.

If I skip the start from MCM menu it works but I don't want to skip the start. Reset player gets me out of the cage but Nocturnal is always busy and nothing is happening.

Please help.

btw it's a new lvl 1 character starting with alternate start. I added 1 dragon soul and unlocked first shout via console commands.

It worked with my lvl 6 character before when I added the mod midgame though (used the same console commands, I play with "you are not dragonborn" mod).

mercplatypus · November 6, 2016

Looks like a great mod but I am having problems at the start. I am stuck in the cage during the scene when nocturnal is summoned for the first time.

My character asks her "why did you do this", she replies to protect her virginity and then nothing happens.

The most frequent cause for this particular problem is not having the Zaz animation pack 6.11 patch installed and running. There is a combined download on page one of this forum that merges Zaz 6.1 and the patch into a single download. Can you try downloading the patch and see if that solves the issue?

If I skip the start from MCM menu it works but I don't want to skip the start. Reset player gets me out of the cage but Nocturnal is always busy and nothing is happening.

Please help.

btw it's a new lvl 1 character starting with alternate start. I added 1 dragon soul and unlocked first shout via console commands.

It worked with my lvl 6 character before when I added the mod midgame though (used the same console commands, I play with "you are not dragonborn" mod).

Lambda87 · November 6, 2016

Looks like a great mod but I am having problems at the start. I am stuck in the cage during the scene when nocturnal is summoned for the first time.

My character asks her "why did you do this", she replies to protect her virginity and then nothing happens.

The most frequent cause for this particular problem is not having the Zaz animation pack 6.11 patch installed and running. There is a combined download on page one of this forum that merges Zaz 6.1 and the patch into a single download. Can you try downloading the patch and see if that solves the issue?

Thank you very much! I didn't have the patch. Now everything works fine and I can enjoy this great mod.

gianclod · November 7, 2016

nice mod

NukuNuku · November 7, 2016

Hello

Sorry for my English, I go through google ... I installed version 2.9 on my part with a man and I had a nasty crash in a triangle including the cabin of anise, the tormented mound and falls the road to the mound. Unable to get out of the cellar of the hut, go to the mound or walk in this region without a violent back office and it does the same on my old parties. Since this is the only mod that I have brought to light, I wonder if my crashes do not come in.

Otherwise, I LOVE TOO this mod and I'm looking forward to the French version: d

Thank you

See you soon.

Bonjour

Désolé pour mon anglais, je passe par google... J'ai installé la version 2.9 sur ma partie avec un homme et j'ai eut un méchant plantage dans un triangle comprenant la cabane d'anise, le tertre des chutes tourmentées et sur la route qui mêne au tertre. Impossible de sortir de la cave de la cabane, d'aller au tertre ou de marcher dans cette région sans un violent retour bureau et cela le fait même sur mes anciennes parties. Vu que c'est le seul mod que j'ai mit à jour, je me demande si mes plantages ne viennent pas de la.

Sinon, j'AIME TROP ce mod et j'ai hâte de voir sa version française

Merci

A bientôt.

*VirginMarie* · November 7, 2016

Hello

Sorry for my English, I go through google ... I installed version 2.9 on my part with a man and I had a nasty crash in a triangle including the cabin of anise, the tormented mound and falls the road to the mound. Unable to get out of the cellar of the hut, go to the mound or walk in this region without a violent back office and it does the same on my old parties. Since this is the only mod that I have brought to light, I wonder if my crashes do not come in.

Otherwise, I LOVE TOO this mod and I'm looking forward to the French version: d

Thank you

See you soon.

Bonjour

Désolé pour mon anglais, je passe par google... J'ai installé la version 2.9 sur ma partie avec un homme et j'ai eut un méchant plantage dans un triangle comprenant la cabane d'anise, le tertre des chutes tourmentées et sur la route qui mêne au tertre. Impossible de sortir de la cave de la cabane, d'aller au tertre ou de marcher dans cette région sans un violent retour bureau et cela le fait même sur mes anciennes parties. Vu que c'est le seul mod que j'ai mit à jour, je me demande si mes plantages ne viennent pas de la.

Sinon, j'AIME TROP ce mod et j'ai hâte de voir sa version française

Merci

A bientôt.

I'm sorry but that translation is not good enough for me to understand.

I see that you are crashing, but I don't know when.

mercplatypus · November 7, 2016

Hello

Sorry for my English, I go through google ... I installed version 2.9 on my part with a man and I had a nasty crash in a triangle including the cabin of anise, the tormented mound and falls the road to the mound. Unable to get out of the cellar of the hut, go to the mound or walk in this region without a violent back office and it does the same on my old parties. Since this is the only mod that I have brought to light, I wonder if my crashes do not come in.

Otherwise, I LOVE TOO this mod and I'm looking forward to the French version: d

Thank you

See you soon.

The translation is not great but I think I understand some important information. From what I can tell you are playing a male character and are crashing somewhere between Bleak Falls Barrow, Anise's Cabin, and the giant's camp at the base of the path to Bleak Falls Barrow. When in Anise's cellar you are unable to leave without crashing. When you attempt to proceed on the path to Bleak Falls Barrow walking Past the giant's camp you crash. It also occurs with your old characters. Is this correct?

If so then the first problem would be that this mod does not work with male characters. Despite trying to make it work animations, devices, and dialogue never functioned properly. VirginMarie had to abandon male character support. If the problem is related to the character being male have you tried using a female character?

As far as I'm aware this mod should not affect any of those areas. Do you have any other mods in your load order that do affect these areas?

If not then do you have a Papyrus log that you can upload and could you upload a copy of your load order?

I would like to help you figure out where the problem is so that you can enjoy the mod. The more information you can give use the better.

Also translated through google.

Bonjour

Désolé pour mon anglais, je passe par google... J'ai installé la version 2.9 sur ma partie avec un homme et j'ai eut un méchant plantage dans un triangle comprenant la cabane d'anise, le tertre des chutes tourmentées et sur la route qui mêne au tertre. Impossible de sortir de la cave de la cabane, d'aller au tertre ou de marcher dans cette région sans un violent retour bureau et cela le fait même sur mes anciennes parties. Vu que c'est le seul mod que j'ai mit à jour, je me demande si mes plantages ne viennent pas de la.

La traduction n'est pas grande, mais je crois comprendre certaines informations importantes. D'après ce que je peux vous dire, vous jouez un personnage masculin et se fracassent quelque part entre Bleak Falls Barrow, Anise's Cabin, et le camp du géant à la base du chemin de Bleak Falls Barrow. Lorsque vous êtes dans la cave d'Anise, vous ne pouvez pas partir sans vous écraser. Lorsque vous essayez de procéder sur le chemin de Bleak Falls Barrow marche Passé le camp du géant vous crash. Il se produit également avec vos vieux caractères. Est-ce correct?

Si oui, le premier problème serait que ce mod ne fonctionne pas avec des caractères masculins. En dépit d'essayer de le faire travailler les animations, les périphériques et le dialogue n'ont jamais fonctionné correctement. VirginMarie a dû abandonner le soutien des personnages masculins. Si le problème est lié au personnage étant mâle avez-vous essayé d'utiliser un personnage féminin?

Pour autant que je sache, ce mod ne devrait affecter aucun de ces domaines. Avez-vous d'autres mods dans votre ordre de chargement qui affectent ces zones?

Sinon, avez-vous un journal Papyrus que vous pouvez télécharger et pouvez-vous télécharger une copie de votre ordre de chargement?

Je voudrais vous aider à déterminer où le problème est afin que vous puissiez profiter du mod. Le plus d'informations que vous pouvez donner utiliser le mieux.

Également traduit par google.

Sinon, j'AIME TROP ce mod et j'ai hâte de voir sa version française

Merci

A bientôt.

NukuNuku · November 7, 2016

Hello

Thank you for having bothered to translate your message, it's great: D

Yes, I play with a male character and I did not know that this model did not work with them ... In the log, I do not know where to find it. I'll just start a male part, without the mod.

I hope my feminine side will still work when I would resume.

Thanks

Bonjour

Merci d'avoir prit la peine de traduire votre message, c'est super

Oui, je joue avec un personnage masculin et je ne savais pas que ce mod ne fonctionnait pas avec eux... Pour le log, je ne sais pas ou le trouver. Je vais simplement recommencer une partie masculine, sans le mod.

J'espère que ma partie féminine fonctionnera toujours quand je la reprendrais.

Merci

*VirginMarie* · November 7, 2016

Hello

Thank you for having bothered to translate your message, it's great: D

Yes, I play with a male character and I did not know that this model did not work with them ... In the log, I do not know where to find it. I'll just start a male part, without the mod.

I hope my feminine side will still work when I would resume.

Thanks

Bonjour

Merci d'avoir prit la peine de traduire votre message, c'est super

Oui, je joue avec un personnage masculin et je ne savais pas que ce mod ne fonctionnait pas avec eux... Pour le log, je ne sais pas ou le trouver. Je vais simplement recommencer une partie masculine, sans le mod.

J'espère que ma partie féminine fonctionnera toujours quand je la reprendrais.

Merci

You can play a male character with this mod. Not compatible means.... dialogue out of context, you moan and scream as a female, some devices look wrong or not visible.

A male character is not going to crash. This is not your problem
There is no chance this mod can cause a location specific crash
I do not think this mod is directly your problem

Your problem most likely is a corrupt save, wrong load order, mod conflict, or incorrect installation.

My recommendation is:

Review Installation Section and make sure you have all the requirements, with versions up-to-date
Review the Troubleshooting section in case your problem is there
Make sure your load order is correct. Use a tool called Loot to sort your mods. Google it
After those steps, start a brand new game (just as a test), and go to the same location and try to re-create the problem
If the problem is not gone, give us a Papyrus log, ending with your crash, to try to help you. For instructions on how to provide a papyrus log, see FAQ #12

sfeile · November 7, 2016

I'm finally getting around to playing again. I put in the new update and everything started alright. Pretty darn smooth actually, which is surprising for my game haha.

I have run into a little problem after getting my second word though. Cassia is nowhere to be found with the letter that Dibella said she would bring. I tried waiting, changing location, reset in mcm, waiting some more, moving again, turning her random chance all the way up, waiting some more, and even moving again.

I know in previous playthroughs, I read the book and letter while still in the temple and Cassia would be right outside the door. Based on that, I went out side the temple this time and read the letter where they would have more room to "greet" than at the top of the stairs. Could that have made it not trigger properly?

Nocturnal still shows up if I shout, defeat function works, everything seems ok other than I'm not getting my next message to advance.

Is there a setstage I can use or check to see if reading outside was what did it?

*VirginMarie* · November 7, 2016

I'm finally getting around to playing again. I put in the new update and everything started alright. Pretty darn smooth actually, which is surprising for my game haha.

I have run into a little problem after getting my second word though. Cassia is nowhere to be found with the letter that Dibella said she would bring. I tried waiting, changing location, reset in mcm, waiting some more, moving again, turning her random chance all the way up, waiting some more, and even moving again.

I know in previous playthroughs, I read the book and letter while still in the temple and Cassia would be right outside the door. Based on that, I went out side the temple this time and read the letter where they would have more room to "greet" than at the top of the stairs. Could that have made it not trigger properly?

no

Nocturnal still shows up if I shout, defeat function works, everything seems ok other than I'm not getting my next message to advance.

Is there a setstage I can use or check to see if reading outside was what did it?

Info needed first...

What does your Spank a Thief quest log currently say?
Can you confirm by looking at your shout, that you've received the 2nd word?
What does your Virgin Training quest log currently say?
Type in console Help VirginEnable 3 What is VirginEnableCassia currently set to?
On an off chance, have you seen dialogue from Branding Device of Doom, that lets you put them in the device, and selected that option on Cassia?

*VirginMarie* · November 7, 2016

NOTICE:

Cassia can become stuck if you've used the dialogue from Branding Device of Doom Mod to tell her to get in the device. This can halt quest progress. There's no known way to unstuck her - Solution: Load a save before you used the offending dialogue. And don't use that mod's feature. Workaround to prevent this implemented for next release

*VirginMarie* · November 7, 2016

nice mod

I had intended to reply to this yesterday. Glad you like it! Maybe you'd be interested in providing more feedback. You'd qualify for the contest and could have your own named waterfall

sfeile · November 8, 2016

I'm finally getting around to playing again. I put in the new update and everything started alright. Pretty darn smooth actually, which is surprising for my game haha.

I have run into a little problem after getting my second word though. Cassia is nowhere to be found with the letter that Dibella said she would bring. I tried waiting, changing location, reset in mcm, waiting some more, moving again, turning her random chance all the way up, waiting some more, and even moving again.

I know in previous playthroughs, I read the book and letter while still in the temple and Cassia would be right outside the door. Based on that, I went out side the temple this time and read the letter where they would have more room to "greet" than at the top of the stairs. Could that have made it not trigger properly?

no

Nocturnal still shows up if I shout, defeat function works, everything seems ok other than I'm not getting my next message to advance.

Is there a setstage I can use or check to see if reading outside was what did it?

Info needed first...

What does your Spank a Thief quest log currently say?

Can you confirm by looking at your shout, that you've received the 2nd word?

What does your Virgin Training quest log currently say?

Type in console Help VirginEnable 3 What is VirginEnableCassia currently set to?

On an off chance, have you seen dialogue from Branding Device of Doom, that lets you put them in the device, and selected that option on Cassia?

Sorry it took so long to get back to you.

1. Spank a thief shows in my completed quests. Everything is finished on it. It lists:

Read the letter and manuscript (side note, you have double "r"s in manuscript)

Return statue to Elizibella

Retrieve stolen statue

Kill the statue thief

2. Yes my shout menu is showing both words learned and ready to use.

3. Training log shows objectives from the beginning to "Talk to someone in Dibella's temple" The diamond on all of them are filled showing they have been completed.

The text at the top reads "Dibella foresees the coming of Cassia with a letter from Nocturnal. I can expect to meet up with her soon."

4. help virginenable 3 shows virginenable cassia=3.00

5. I don't do anything with the branding device other than when Nocturnal has placed me in it in a previous game. This game it hasn't been used at all. I don't recall even seeing a dialog for it.

*VirginMarie* · November 8, 2016

I'm finally getting around to playing again. I put in the new update and everything started alright. Pretty darn smooth actually, which is surprising for my game haha.

I have run into a little problem after getting my second word though. Cassia is nowhere to be found with the letter that Dibella said she would bring. I tried waiting, changing location, reset in mcm, waiting some more, moving again, turning her random chance all the way up, waiting some more, and even moving again.

I know in previous playthroughs, I read the book and letter while still in the temple and Cassia would be right outside the door. Based on that, I went out side the temple this time and read the letter where they would have more room to "greet" than at the top of the stairs. Could that have made it not trigger properly?

no

Nocturnal still shows up if I shout, defeat function works, everything seems ok other than I'm not getting my next message to advance.

Is there a setstage I can use or check to see if reading outside was what did it?

Info needed first...

What does your Spank a Thief quest log currently say?

Can you confirm by looking at your shout, that you've received the 2nd word?

What does your Virgin Training quest log currently say?

Type in console   Help VirginEnable 3    What is VirginEnableCassia currently set to?

On an off chance, have you seen dialogue from Branding Device of Doom, that lets you put them in the device, and selected that option on Cassia?

Sorry it took so long to get back to you.

1. Spank a thief shows in my completed quests. Everything is finished on it. It lists:

         Read the letter and manuscript (side note, you have double "r"s in manuscript)

         Return statue to Elizibella

         Retrieve stolen statue

         Kill the statue thief

2. Yes my shout menu is showing both words learned and ready to use.

3. Training log shows objectives from the beginning to "Talk to someone in Dibella's temple" The diamond on all of them are filled showing they have been completed.

    The text at the top reads "Dibella foresees the coming of Cassia with a letter from Nocturnal. I can expect to meet up with her soon."

4. help virginenable 3 shows virginenable cassia=3.00

5. I don't do anything with the branding device other than when Nocturnal has placed me in it in a previous game. This game it hasn't been used at all. I don't recall even seeing a dialog for it.

First, one last try at getting Cassia to actually come visit you using these steps (and grab me a papyrus log for this piece of game play if you don't mind):

Startup game and load
Fast Travel to Riverwood
Do a Wait 1 hr (the game's wait function, not actually waiting around)
Go into the inn
Do a Wait 1 hr
Go out of the inn
Do a Wait 1 hr
Exit to desktop
Grab Papyrus log

Did she show up with the letter at any point?

If not...

I wish I knew the cause of the problem. I can't see how you are in that state and not meeting up with Cassia. All of the status you gave is correct. Thus it makes me wonder if your save is corrupt. Maybe payrus can tell.

This will almost certainly get you going again...

SetStage VirginTraining 130

SetStage VirginTraining 140

Set VirginEnableCassia to 0

She has no further critical role so if she's stuck for good you just wont get to do her activities (she has several now). Assuming this fixes, please let me know if she ever comes to visit after this or not.

And one last question... I remember having this exact some problem with just one person, long ago. Got that person untuck but never determined cause. Was that by any chance you?

sfeile · November 8, 2016

I'm finally getting around to playing again. I put in the new update and everything started alright. Pretty darn smooth actually, which is surprising for my game haha.

I have run into a little problem after getting my second word though. Cassia is nowhere to be found with the letter that Dibella said she would bring. I tried waiting, changing location, reset in mcm, waiting some more, moving again, turning her random chance all the way up, waiting some more, and even moving again.

I know in previous playthroughs, I read the book and letter while still in the temple and Cassia would be right outside the door. Based on that, I went out side the temple this time and read the letter where they would have more room to "greet" than at the top of the stairs. Could that have made it not trigger properly?

no

Nocturnal still shows up if I shout, defeat function works, everything seems ok other than I'm not getting my next message to advance.

Is there a setstage I can use or check to see if reading outside was what did it?

Info needed first...

What does your Spank a Thief quest log currently say?

Can you confirm by looking at your shout, that you've received the 2nd word?

What does your Virgin Training quest log currently say?

Type in console   Help VirginEnable 3    What is VirginEnableCassia currently set to?

On an off chance, have you seen dialogue from Branding Device of Doom, that lets you put them in the device, and selected that option on Cassia?

Sorry it took so long to get back to you.

1. Spank a thief shows in my completed quests. Everything is finished on it. It lists:

         Read the letter and manuscript (side note, you have double "r"s in manuscript)

         Return statue to Elizibella

         Retrieve stolen statue

         Kill the statue thief

2. Yes my shout menu is showing both words learned and ready to use.

3. Training log shows objectives from the beginning to "Talk to someone in Dibella's temple" The diamond on all of them are filled showing they have been completed.

    The text at the top reads "Dibella foresees the coming of Cassia with a letter from Nocturnal. I can expect to meet up with her soon."

4. help virginenable 3 shows virginenable cassia=3.00

5. I don't do anything with the branding device other than when Nocturnal has placed me in it in a previous game. This game it hasn't been used at all. I don't recall even seeing a dialog for it.

First, one last try at getting Cassia to actually come visit you using these steps (and grab me a papyrus log for this piece of game play if you don't mind):

Startup game and load

Fast Travel to Riverwood

Do a Wait 1 hr (the game's wait function, not actually waiting around)

Go into the inn

Do a Wait 1 hr

Go out of the inn

Do a Wait 1 hr

Exit to desktop

Grab Papyrus log

Did she show up with the letter at any point?

If not...

I wish I knew the cause of the problem. I can't see how you are in that state and not meeting up with Cassia. All of the status you gave is correct. Thus it makes me wonder if your save is corrupt. Maybe payrus can tell.

This will almost certainly get you going again...

SetStage VirginTraining 130

SetStage VirginTraining 140

Set VirginEnableCassia to 0

She has no further critical role so if she's stuck for good you just wont get to do her activities (she has several now). Assuming this fixes, please let me know if she ever comes to visit after this or not.

And one last question... I remember having this exact some problem with just one person, long ago. Got that person untuck but never determined cause. Was that by any chance you?

No that wasn't me. I can't recall ever having a problem playing any version of this mod until this issue.

The save I was going on was from just before the first daedric lord. I had saved on the way to falkreath and went to bed. I played the next day and everything went fine from going to falkreath, meeting the dog, and everything else up to her not showing up.

In a little bit I will see if I remember how to enable my logging again and see what I can get for you.

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