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[Sospice]

I updated to the recent version and the delivery of the letter happened as promised (although I already had it from additem menu).

Is there a way to adjust your character when she's in devices? My character is really low in the devices from pain is pleasure or the waterfall questline. Basically about 3 feet two low. 

[VirginMarie]

I updated to the recent version and the delivery of the letter happened as promised (although I already had it from additem menu).

 

Is there a way to adjust your character when she's in devices? My character is really low in the devices from pain is pleasure or the waterfall questline. Basically about 3 feet two low. 

 

By devices I think you mean furniture? And do you mean the camera perspective or POV (point of view)? Assuming yes to these...

 

For waterfalls, you would be automatically in free cam mode. Thus you can move your camera around for any POV. The free cam kicks in after the first couple seconds.

 

For Pain is pleasure, this mod does not take you into free cam mode automatically, because it can end up pausing the animations. However you can use Sexlab's free cam (F11 by default). Just press F11 again to un-pause if that happens.

 

I use Customizable Camera. I'm not sure what it would be like without it. So not sure it makes a difference but most likely it does. Can give you a much better POV for all your normal game play.

[VirginMarie]

 

After Sheogorath, I visited Nocturnal, but she didn't give me a new Daedric lord. This was in in v2.9. I'll visit her again now and see how it goes. I wonder if the next one is Meridia, because I did her quest before already.

 

As mercplatypus said, Sheogarath is currently last. But you should have seen this pop up (maybe need to progress a little further before you see this):

"TIP: There's no more Daedrics to earn trust with. Nocturnal will give you freedom in a day or so. You will receive notification when it's time."

 

Also this would/will be in your log:

"I'm in Virgin Training for a day or so. I will receive notification when it's time to regain my freedom and worship the Dragon Skull in Nocturnal's Ritual Chamber."

 

When I first went back to Nocturnal after Sheo, I didn't get a popup explaining that there are no more lords to visit (or I closed it w/o noticing it, I usually read everything though). Actually now I'm sure I didin't get the popup, because more than 1 day passed after my 1st visit and I did not get notification.

 

Now I went back the 2nd time and saw that message. I did not wait a day yet.

 

I wanted to update you on this. I've tested the two scenarios where you complete the last Daedric quest. All is working as expected. But you are not the only person who has brought this up. I can see how it's confusing but I'm not sure how to make it better. But what I HAVE done is add the below to the FAQ  and Troubleshooting sections.

 

FAQ

14. What happens when reporting in, if no more Daedrics?

 

At the time of this writing, there's 7 Daedric quests used. You are tasked with the next one when you report in with Nocturnal.

 

Once all are complete, when you report in, the following occurs...

• If you report in on time, and as a virgin - No punishment occurs as usual. Since there's no Daedric to assign, all that happens is your counter for days to report in is reset, and you are sent off with your with your status unchanged
• If you report in either late, or with lost virginity (or both) - The usual punishments occur. Then you see a pop-up message "There's no more Daedrics to earn trust with. Nocturnal will give you freedom in a day or so. You will receive notification when it's time.". This will allow you to get your needed rebirth as usual, without completing a Daedric quest. A "day or so" is actually randomly selected hours between 20 and 30

[Sospice]

Yes, I meant the furniture, but not the perspective. When my character is on the wheel, she's sunken into it so she's physically inside the wheel. The dildo machine, she's sunken below the table top so the dildo is penetrating the air where she would be. I've got her height set at .9 to .95 (1.0 is average) so it seems to be a scaling to height issue.

Is there any way to adjust furniture height from the console? Or scaling in creation kit? I know you can just click on furniture and change the scale from console command but these furniture items only exist during sex scenes.

[VirginMarie]

Yes, I meant the furniture, but not the perspective. When my character is on the wheel, she's sunken into it so she's physically inside the wheel. The dildo machine, she's sunken below the table top so the dildo is penetrating the air where she would be. I've got her height set at .9 to .95 (1.0 is average) so it seems to be a scaling to height issue.

 

Is there any way to adjust furniture height from the console? Or scaling in creation kit? I know you can just click on furniture and change the scale from console command but these furniture items only exist during sex scenes.

 

I see now! I've just tried it in game and can recreate this. I'm surprised you are the first to ever bring this up. I had not considered this or tested for it. There could be other situations beyond waterfall and pain is pleasure, where things don't look right too.

 

The furniture animations involved are from a few different authors. Those authors don't supply any means to support anything other than standard 1.0 scale (nobody ever does I think), so while I might scale the physical assets to match you body scale, the animations won't support that.

 

The solution would be for me to do the same as I know sexlab does (it has an MCM option)... I need to scale your body temporarily to the 1.0, then set it back again after. I will look into doing that for a future release (probably next release if the idea I have works easily enough).

[VirginMarie]

 

Yes, I meant the furniture, but not the perspective. When my character is on the wheel, she's sunken into it so she's physically inside the wheel. The dildo machine, she's sunken below the table top so the dildo is penetrating the air where she would be. I've got her height set at .9 to .95 (1.0 is average) so it seems to be a scaling to height issue.

 

Is there any way to adjust furniture height from the console? Or scaling in creation kit? I know you can just click on furniture and change the scale from console command but these furniture items only exist during sex scenes.

 

I see now! I've just tried it in game and can recreate this. I'm surprised you are the first to ever bring this up. I had not considered this or tested for it. There could be other situations beyond waterfall and pain is pleasure, where things don't look right too.

 

The furniture animations involved are from a few different authors. Those authors don't supply any means to support anything other than standard 1.0 scale (nobody ever does I think), so while I might scale the physical assets to match you body scale, the animations won't support that.

 

The solution would be for me to do the same as I know sexlab does (it has an MCM option)... I need to scale your body temporarily to the 1.0, then set it back again after. I will look into doing that for a future release (probably next release if the idea I have works easily enough).

 

I've concluded that I will not add a scaling feature to compensate for furniture animations. It's too "dangerous".

 

This was an interesting learning experience. I found I could easily CTD the game or cause some other strange issues by re-scaling an actor. Ever heard of the "fall from sky" bug hehe? The point where I decided against it was when I realized that Ashal added an option in sexlab called "Potential Startup CTD Fix". I can now understand why this was done... sexlab has troubles with setting actor scale too.

 

I've added Troubleshooting #13 for this. Thanks for reporting this, now at least it's documented for others.

[sfeile]

 

Yes, I meant the furniture, but not the perspective. When my character is on the wheel, she's sunken into it so she's physically inside the wheel. The dildo machine, she's sunken below the table top so the dildo is penetrating the air where she would be. I've got her height set at .9 to .95 (1.0 is average) so it seems to be a scaling to height issue.

 

Is there any way to adjust furniture height from the console? Or scaling in creation kit? I know you can just click on furniture and change the scale from console command but these furniture items only exist during sex scenes.

 

I see now! I've just tried it in game and can recreate this. I'm surprised you are the first to ever bring this up. I had not considered this or tested for it. There could be other situations beyond waterfall and pain is pleasure, where things don't look right too.

 

The furniture animations involved are from a few different authors. Those authors don't supply any means to support anything other than standard 1.0 scale (nobody ever does I think), so while I might scale the physical assets to match you body scale, the animations won't support that.

 

The solution would be for me to do the same as I know sexlab does (it has an MCM option)... I need to scale your body temporarily to the 1.0, then set it back again after. I will look into doing that for a future release (probably next release if the idea I have works easily enough).

 

 

I had this issue with an older playthrough, but I knew it was because I had a short character. Komotor's animations are set up to only run full size, probably the others are as well.

 

There is always the option in sexlab to re-scale actors. Komotor suggests it as a fix for his. I have no clue how easy/difficult it would be to do it on your own mod. You apparently know this judging from your response though.

[Sospice]

 

 

Yes, I meant the furniture, but not the perspective. When my character is on the wheel, she's sunken into it so she's physically inside the wheel. The dildo machine, she's sunken below the table top so the dildo is penetrating the air where she would be. I've got her height set at .9 to .95 (1.0 is average) so it seems to be a scaling to height issue.

 

Is there any way to adjust furniture height from the console? Or scaling in creation kit? I know you can just click on furniture and change the scale from console command but these furniture items only exist during sex scenes.

 

I see now! I've just tried it in game and can recreate this. I'm surprised you are the first to ever bring this up. I had not considered this or tested for it. There could be other situations beyond waterfall and pain is pleasure, where things don't look right too.

 

The furniture animations involved are from a few different authors. Those authors don't supply any means to support anything other than standard 1.0 scale (nobody ever does I think), so while I might scale the physical assets to match you body scale, the animations won't support that.

 

The solution would be for me to do the same as I know sexlab does (it has an MCM option)... I need to scale your body temporarily to the 1.0, then set it back again after. I will look into doing that for a future release (probably next release if the idea I have works easily enough).

 

 

I had this issue with an older playthrough, but I knew it was because I had a short character. Komotor's animations are set up to only run full size, probably the others are as well.

 

There is always the option in sexlab to re-scale actors. Komotor suggests it as a fix for his. I have no clue how easy/difficult it would be to do it on your own mod. You apparently know this judging from your response though.

 

 

I figured it wasn't easily doable but thanks for looking for a solution. What I found confusing is that most sexlab animations, you can adjust the positions of the character & npc using the ' ; l k and + keys.  I realized when your free cam option was on, you can't adjust body positions, so I disabled it. But I still recall those specific animations used during the waterfall sequences didn't seem to be adjustable at all.

Before I forget, the "normal scale setpoint" might be 1.03. I realize that I had mine set to 1.0 and it was still a bit off, but my character was wearing shoes that are considered heels so that might have caused the scaling to be off a bit. You can get ctds from changing height? I use racemenu to make scaling changes, and I haven't had any ctd issues.

 

On another note, I can think of a way around this if anyone cares;

 

If the furniture is treated as a second actor, then you can adjust the furniture in relation to the character. The komotor's animations, for example, you can do this with some of the animations (like the seesaw) but not for example, the one with the giant dildo. 

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

I figured it wasn't easily doable but thanks for looking for a solution. What I found confusing is that most sexlab animations, you can adjust the positions of the character & npc using the ' ; l k and + keys.  I realized when your free cam option was on, you can't adjust body positions, so I disabled it. free cam is not the reason. But I still recall those specific animations used during the waterfall sequences didn't seem to be adjustable at all.

​This is because these animations are not played through Sexlab. They are played directly by this mod like many animations in this mod. This is why I provide my own free cam where possible for them.

 

Before I forget, the "normal scale setpoint" might be 1.03. I realize that I had mine set to 1.0 and it was still a bit off, but my character was wearing shoes that are considered heels so that might have caused the scaling to be off a bit. You can get ctds from changing height? I use racemenu to make scaling changes, and I haven't had any ctd issues. Not from changing height of your character base... but by doing it through script with SetScale, which temporarily modifies it on the fly. This is why Sexlab has problems with the same such feature and has given a new option recently called "Potential Startup CTD Fix" (just read it's tool tip and you see that). So I'm not going there it's not worth it.

 

On another note, I can think of a way around this if anyone cares;

 

If the furniture is treated as a second actor, then you can adjust the furniture in relation to the character. The komotor's animations, for example, you can do this with some of the animations (like the seesaw) but not for example, the one with the giant dildo. 

 

[Sospice]

I've started "tales & tallows" (a ghost ran up to my character and said "boo!" and now I've got the wrist restraints locked on). I'm now at the shrine in front of Reachcliff cave (Narnia's place). I see the ravens in the air but I'm not getting any sort of instruction on what to do next. I've tried worshiping at both the shrines and using the thu'um of love (both 1st & second words), I've tried talking to nocturnal, but nothing seems to happen.

Is there something I'm missing?

Oh, also, the animations for the Komo komo machine "from the future" when Nocturnal punishes you when you go in to have your virginity checked (and fail the test) is playing a 3 way FFF instead. I wasn't sure if that was an issue so I figured I'd mention it. 

[VirginMarie]

I've started "tales & tallows" (a ghost ran up to my character and said "boo!" and now I've got the wrist restraints locked on). I'm now at the shrine in front of Reachcliff cave (Narnia's place). I see the ravens in the air but I'm not getting any sort of instruction on what to do next. I've tried worshiping at both the shrines and using the thu'um of love (both 1st & second words), I've tried talking to nocturnal, but nothing seems to happen.

 

Is there something I'm missing?

 

Reachcliff/Narmia quest is unrelated to Tales & Tallows. The Nocturnal Altars in front of many locations are also not related.

 

Narmia is the 2nd Daedric Quest that Nocturnal sends you on as part of Virgin Training. Perhaps you have an objective marker from that.

 

Tales & Tallows will gradually progress... you say you've met one ghost so far? There's more who will visit you

Oh, also, the animations for the Komo komo machine "from the future" when Nocturnal punishes you when you go in to have your virginity checked (and fail the test) is playing a 3 way FFF instead. I wasn't sure if that was an issue so I figured I'd mention it. 

 

This means sexlab could not play the machine animation. Two possible causes:

• You don't have the animation installed correctly
• You are wearing a device from another mod (like a chastity belt or armbinder), and either the Devious Devices Animation Filter, or the Zaz one, is blocking the animation, thus sexlab is forced to play something else in lieu

​​Assuming one if these is your cause... it's working as expected. I do see this as something to improve so it's less confusing and it's on our to do list.

 

[Sospice]

 

I've started "tales & tallows" (a ghost ran up to my character and said "boo!" and now I've got the wrist restraints locked on). I'm now at the shrine in front of Reachcliff cave (Narnia's place). I see the ravens in the air but I'm not getting any sort of instruction on what to do next. I've tried worshiping at both the shrines and using the thu'um of love (both 1st & second words), I've tried talking to nocturnal, but nothing seems to happen.

 

Is there something I'm missing?

 

Reachcliff/Narmia quest is unrelated to Tales & Tallows. The Nocturnal Altars in front of many locations are also not related.

 

Narmia is the 2nd Daedric Quest that Nocturnal sends you on as part of Virgin Training. Perhaps you have an objective marker from that.

 

Tales & Tallows will gradually progress... you say you've met one ghost so far? There's more who will visit you

Oh, also, the animations for the Komo komo machine "from the future" when Nocturnal punishes you when you go in to have your virginity checked (and fail the test) is playing a 3 way FFF instead. I wasn't sure if that was an issue so I figured I'd mention it. 

 

This means sexlab could not play the machine animation. Two possible causes:

• You don't have the animation installed correctly
• You are wearing a device from another mod (like a chastity belt or armbinder), and either the Devious Devices Animation Filter, or the Zaz one, is blocking the animation, thus sexlab is forced to play something else in lieu

​​Assuming one if these is your cause... it's working as expected. I do see this as something to improve so it's less confusing and it's on our to do list.

 

 

Okay, I wasn't sure if I was supposed to do something at those altars outside the caves where the daedrics are since when I stand near them four ravens appear in the air above them. I read I'm supposed to summon the ravens so that was kind of confusing.  

 

If you look you can see them there, just kind of hovering flapping their wings. 

 

I've started "tales & tallows" (a ghost ran up to my character and said "boo!" and now I've got the wrist restraints locked on). I'm now at the shrine in front of Reachcliff cave (Narnia's place). I see the ravens in the air but I'm not getting any sort of instruction on what to do next. I've tried worshiping at both the shrines and using the thu'um of love (both 1st & second words), I've tried talking to nocturnal, but nothing seems to happen.

 

Is there something I'm missing?

 

Reachcliff/Narmia quest is unrelated to Tales & Tallows. The Nocturnal Altars in front of many locations are also not related.

 

Narmia is the 2nd Daedric Quest that Nocturnal sends you on as part of Virgin Training. Perhaps you have an objective marker from that.

 

Tales & Tallows will gradually progress... you say you've met one ghost so far? There's more who will visit you

Oh, also, the animations for the Komo komo machine "from the future" when Nocturnal punishes you when you go in to have your virginity checked (and fail the test) is playing a 3 way FFF instead. I wasn't sure if that was an issue so I figured I'd mention it. 

 

This means sexlab could not play the machine animation. Two possible causes:

• You don't have the animation installed correctly
• You are wearing a device from another mod (like a chastity belt or armbinder), and either the Devious Devices Animation Filter, or the Zaz one, is blocking the animation, thus sexlab is forced to play something else in lieu

​​Assuming one if these is your cause... it's working as expected. I do see this as something to improve so it's less confusing and it's on our to do list.

 

 

Okay, I wasn't sure if I was supposed to do something at those altars outside the caves where the daedrics are since when I stand near them four ravens appear in the air above them. I read I'm supposed to summon the ravens so that was kind of confusing.  

 

If you look you can see them there, just kind of hovering flapping their wings. 

[VirginMarie]

 

 

Okay, I wasn't sure if I was supposed to do something at those altars outside the caves where the daedrics are since when I stand near them four ravens appear in the air above them. I read I'm supposed to summon the ravens so that was kind of confusing.  

 

If you look you can see them there, just kind of hovering flapping their wings. 

 

Yes. Ravens are a symbol of Nocturnal. So if there's a Nocturnal Altar there, you might expect them to be attracted to it

 

You will be seeing them at other times, for example each time Nocturnal appears, there's ravens about you for a while.

 

The purpose of the Altars, is to give you an alternate way to talk with Nocturnal if you need her. You might need a replacement key in the future, for example.

[mercplatypus]

 

 

 

Okay, I wasn't sure if I was supposed to do something at those altars outside the caves where the daedrics are since when I stand near them four ravens appear in the air above them. I read I'm supposed to summon the ravens so that was kind of confusing.  

 

If you look you can see them there, just kind of hovering flapping their wings. 

 

Yes. Ravens are a symbol of Nocturnal. So if there's a Nocturnal Altar there, you might expect them to be attracted to it

 

You will be seeing them at other times, for example each time Nocturnal appears, there's ravens about you for a while.

 

The purpose of the Altars, is to give you an alternate way to talk with Nocturnal if you need her. You might need a replacement key in the future, for example.

 

The alters also mark locations that have content from Virgin but not necessarily places you need to go right now.  For example those wrist restraints you just received will start providing frost resistance after a while based on the number of times who use the Call Forth the Ravens Power at certain Nocturnal statues.  The alters mark different caves that you will probably never have a quest to go to but can still perform the ritual in later on.

[VirginMarie]

Teaser for next release...

 

 

 

[trubader]

I just installed the mod for the first time and got as far as Nocturnal locking me up. However, as soon as she sticks the anal plug into the PC, she stops talking, and the scene no longer advances. Any help would be appreciated! 

[mercplatypus]

I just installed the mod for the first time and got as far as Nocturnal locking me up. However, as soon as she sticks the anal plug into the PC, she stops talking, and the scene no longer advances. Any help would be appreciated! 

Solution is under troubleshooting section on first page of this thread.  Check item 3 under troubleshooting.

[Hamcan]

Hi, new here. The devices aren't showing up in the bodyslide batch build menu.

[sfeile]

Hi, new here. The devices aren't showing up in the bodyslide batch build menu.

 

What version is your bodyslide? I think you still need one version before the newest, 3.8 I believe. Something changed in the tagging thing in the newest BS if I remember correctly.

[VirginMarie]

 

Hi, new here. The devices aren't showing up in the bodyslide batch build menu.

 

What version is your bodyslide? I think you still need one version before the newest, 3.8 I believe. Something changed in the tagging thing in the newest BS if I remember correctly.

 

 

The latest bodyslide package (1.5) is compatible with the latest Bodyslide & Outfit Studio.

Should always be using the latest package provided with the mod.

 

From the change log, one release back:

Bodyslide packages are updated to v1.5 for compatibility with the new BodySlide & Outfit Studio v4.0

 

If that's not your problem, for more info see FAQ #11.

 

Let me know if this helped you.

If you need more help, tell me which versions of the mod, bodyslide package, and bodyslide you are using.

[Hamcan]

 

 

Hi, new here. The devices aren't showing up in the bodyslide batch build menu.

 

What version is your bodyslide? I think you still need one version before the newest, 3.8 I believe. Something changed in the tagging thing in the newest BS if I remember correctly.

 

 

The latest bodyslide package (1.5) is compatible with the latest Bodyslide & Outfit Studio.

Should always be using the latest package provided with the mod.

 

From the change log, one release back:

Bodyslide packages are updated to v1.5 for compatibility with the new BodySlide & Outfit Studio v4.0

 

If that's not your problem, for more info see FAQ #11.

 

Let me know if this helped you.

If you need more help, tell me which versions of the mod, bodyslide package, and bodyslide you are using.

 

 

Ah, that was the problem. Didn't have the bodyslide package at all. Thanks!

 

[sfeile]

 

 

Hi, new here. The devices aren't showing up in the bodyslide batch build menu.

 

What version is your bodyslide? I think you still need one version before the newest, 3.8 I believe. Something changed in the tagging thing in the newest BS if I remember correctly.

 

 

The latest bodyslide package (1.5) is compatible with the latest Bodyslide & Outfit Studio.

Should always be using the latest package provided with the mod.

 

From the change log, one release back:

Bodyslide packages are updated to v1.5 for compatibility with the new BodySlide & Outfit Studio v4.0

 

If that's not your problem, for more info see FAQ #11.

 

Let me know if this helped you.

If you need more help, tell me which versions of the mod, bodyslide package, and bodyslide you are using.

 

 

I missed yet another part of an update.... I need to just keep my mouth shut.

 

[Llakuawyus]

Where did you get the paw Slavetat for the feet from one of the pictures you posted?

 

http://www.loverslab.com/index.php?app=downloads&module=display&section=screenshot&record=487693&id=2928&full=1

 

Btw, love the mod!

[VirginMarie]

Where did you get the paw Slavetat for the feet from one of the pictures you posted?

 

http://www.loverslab.com/index.php?app=downloads&module=display&section=screenshot&record=487693&id=2928&full=1

 

Btw, love the mod!

 

I wish I could remember because now that you mention it, I  suddenly want that again! I trimmed away most slavetat mods in the summer and can't remember.

[NewHere90]

Hey guys,

 

I think I found a bug. I completed the quest which is called „Virgin Training“.

 

I returned the statue of Dibella which had been stolen. Then I got the message that I will receive another letter from Nocturnal (The MCM pops up and Dibella foresees that I will get a new letter ...). I travelled to Whiterun to trigger the next quest and to receive this letter. Cassie appeared but nothing happened.

 

What should I do? Should I travel to another town and wait there? Or should I enter and leave an inn to trigger the next quest? Alternatively, I could use the Mod „AddItemMenu“ to get this letter.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

By the way: This mod is awesome and pretty well scripted.

 

P.S.: Sorry for my poor English.