CliftonJD Posted May 27, 2016 Author Posted May 27, 2016 Hi,  I have a question that I'm sure has been answered but for some reason I'm not clear on...    So, my question is, do I install the original mod first then yours answered on the main page:  Required: Skyrim Sexlab SkyUI ZazAnimationPack! the added cell is now optional, if used it also requires hearthfires skse, Run FNIS after installation! ALL requirements for the above mods must also be installed  6.1.2 both contain the required pah files needed to run   and do I need the other files on the originals page such as the study and camp or skip them? also answered in the title, the customary addons are included and when you get to the download page you can choose to upgrade the camp  I don't care about the renaming part but JContainers is ok to install or no? Well, many questions lol Trying to figure out why it doesn't work and it's frustrating jcontainers is only needed for the renamer or for slavetats usage, if you don'ty care about those functions then having it or not having it shouldn't be a problem   . I installed the mod and everything worked except no dialogue to enslave anyone. They go down on one knee and trying to talk to them gives me nothing. Then they get back up and attack again. Thinking I must have installed it wrong. check the above requirements list and make sure nothing overwrite your skse files, reinstall them if necessary, then move pahe to the end of your load order if you still have trouble after that, check the mcm, it might just need to be started, but i made some updates that should prevent that issue:  and is it compatible with ASLAL? yes, it should just start on its own, regardless of alternate start or any other mod i don't care if you're a daedra worshipper or slave to sanguine once you've met those requirements it should automatically start with the game --it may be a case of starting on game load, not start so if its a new game save it then reload it before attempting to use it
kitannadk Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 I didn't think i needed the original, it wasn't listed in the requirements but I listened to a friend of mine like a dummy. Yes I have EFF and I tried via Defeat but still nothing. I'll try a new game without the original mod when I get home this evening. Should I remove EFF or is ok with the ignore follower version? I assume it is.... And thank you for the reply
Pfiffy Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 The ignore follower version is for EFF users. There are some problems with Defeat. They cooperate only under certain conditions... This is what I have learned so far. I have not tested the new Version a lot but stumbeled over this little misunderstandin between those two mods within Helgen. There is a little workaround if you set the conditions for enslavement very easy so you can choose weather to use Defeat or Pahe on the Victim. And What is ASLAL? (I'm ashamed of myself because as a german i should be familliar with hm... How is that called if you mane it by just saying the beginning letters?) Â Â
CliftonJD Posted May 27, 2016 Author Posted May 27, 2016 I didn't think i needed the original, it wasn't listed in the requirements but I listened to a friend of mine like a dummy. Yes I have EFF and I tried via Defeat but still nothing. I'll try a new game without the original mod when I get home this evening  defeat made the mistake of looking for the paradise halls master file, when it should be looking for pahe so its options are limited  . Should I remove EFF or is ok with the ignore follower version? I assume it is.... And thank you for the reply yes ignore follower version was made for eff users
kitannadk Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 ASLAL is alternate start live another life Don't feel bad, I've seen others and had no clue what they were because I was unfamiliar with them too when not spelled out instead .  And you're saying Defeat and EFF don't play nice together....or the ignore follower version doesn't like defeat? Well, easy solution don't use EFF cause I like Defeat
CliftonJD Posted May 27, 2016 Author Posted May 27, 2016 The ignore follower version is for EFF users. There are some problems with Defeat. They cooperate only under certain conditions... This is what I have learned so far. I have not tested the new Version a lot but stumbeled over this little misunderstandin between those two mods within Helgen. There is a little workaround if you set the conditions for enslavement very easy so you can choose weather to use Defeat or Pahe on the Victim. And What is ASLAL? (I'm ashamed of myself because as a german i should be familliar with hm... Alternate Start, Live Another Life  How is that called if you mane it by just saying the beginning letters?)  that's called an abbreviation
CliftonJD Posted May 27, 2016 Author Posted May 27, 2016 ASLAL is alternate start live another life Don't feel bad, I've seen others and had no clue what they were because I was unfamiliar with them too when not spelled out instead .  And you're saying Defeat and EFF don't play nice together....or the ignore follower version doesn't like defeat? Well, easy solution don't use EFF cause I like Defeat  actually from what i've heard, defeat users get the cancel button still with eff installed, they just won't get as many enslavement options for the defeat dialogue to show up, unless they use pahe enslavement methods, but pahe cancels enslavement thru the talk button and eff users don't get that on followers so that's where the ignore follower version comes in for those users
kitannadk Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 ah, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up  Appreciate the help greatly.
jimmywon34 Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 alright so i think i figured out why slaves can't prostitute through follower mods, i'm back to using AFT and PAHEÂ still don't get that message 'hey you wanna make us some money' with them but get it with my other followers. i think it has to do with the relationship to you, i think it has to be at least friend. i think it would be great if after awhile training your slave and having them at 100% submission they become you ally because i have a few slaves right now at 100% submission and they are still at enemy relationship rank.
pinky6225 Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Bit confused on what to install     pahe_lives_on-6.1.2 and both of the camps or one of the camps?  Thanks
Pfiffy Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Another Day and another new game.  I have finally fixed that Stormcloak Hottie and was able to enslave it. Had been some problem with the factions. I still have the Problem that my PC (male) takes the victim/female role in the animations. I have checked the gender settings in SL and there seems to be some Issues with the aggressive animations option also.. (This might be a problem with my animations here) Renaming works!!! Even on the Imperial Captain, I will check what problems TDF will make(Yeah, I have that option availible). I have picked up some bandits on the way to riverwood and I'm trainig them right now. Is there any guide for the training? soe sort of read me would be helpful.  And another thing: I'm also using SGO an Milk mod economy. Will I get into Problems if the Slaves will be added to other factions?  Bit confused on what to install     pahe_lives_on-6.1.2 and both of the camps or one of the camps?  Thanks The ignore follower version is for EFF users, and the camps are replacers fo that one that comes with the mod. I had the same queston, it has been answered a few posts before...
julzor Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Another Day and another new game.  I have finally fixed that Stormcloak Hottie and was able to enslave it. Had been some problem with the factions. I still have the Problem that my PC (male) takes the victim/female role in the animations. I have checked the gender settings in SL ...  I have the same problem. My futa female (sexlab gender: male) is always in the victim/female role and when I switch to female (sexlab gender) my pc is in the aggressive/male role. Only female/female oral seems to be working fine for me.  EDIT: Vaginal sex with female pc and male npc seems to work as wellÂ
Asbendale Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 I have the same problem, suddenly im the victim, and the female is taking male animations. Im having a male charter.
Pfiffy Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 According to TDF: Not all Slaves seems to be able to become Prostitudes. In some cases The dialog for pimpimg will not show up, in some cases they will reduse to become Prostitudes but some will.   I have a little PRoblem with the Fellglow camp. The slavemaster stops acting after asking me to follow him. Any Ideas?
pinky6225 Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Bit confused on what to install     pahe_lives_on-6.1.2 and both of the camps or one of the camps?  Thanks The ignore follower version is for EFF users, and the camps are replacers fo that one that comes with the mod. I had the same queston, it has been answered a few posts before...  Okay see the bit i missed on the main page, its just one of the camps
thesteve812 Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Thanks for renewing this mod. Â Having same problem as others. Master Jarrek slave buying doesn't play all the way through. My male character takes female role in sex scenes. Â Â
Pfiffy Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Thanks for renewing this mod. Â Having same problem as others. Master Jarrek slave buying doesn't play all the way through. My male character takes female role in sex scenes. I'm wondering a bit if this is depending on Home Sweet Home. I'm going to check that. It also seems like Home Sweet Home isn't working correctly... Well, we are all testers... I Would be glad if i had that much response on my own mod.Â
Pfiffy Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Is it normal that the slaves stop following you if you are in sneak mode?
Zardoz Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Hi, Â I've loaded 6.1.2 and everything is working well EXCEPT (sorry to shout) that the slave animations all assume that my male Dovahkin is female. Â I've been looking through this forum and have double checked SL settings and load orders and have obviously missed something. Â Could somebody please help?Â
Exaltedmidget Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016    . Is there a way to legalize slavery? maayybee, lol i'll definitely add that to my list of things to look into as a possibility  it was always a bit of a hassle trying to enslave somebody in city limitsi'd have to lure them out of town to avoid the legalities of it or if i was already out of town, but just wanted to enslave a guard on patrol for the hell of it i'd switch to my succubus form provided by the succubus race so the fines aren't applied when i enslave the guards either (technically i could do that in town as well, but that makes the guards hostile so it can be alot of hostiles to deal with)   I would like a set of quests to legalize limited slavery in each hold, I would even be willing to do the writing for the quests... I just have no technical skills to build the quests.   My idea resolves around factions, Markarth would be willing to buy Forsworn, Storm cloak citys would be willing to buy imperial soldiers and Thalmor, Imperial Citys would buy storm cloaks, and most would buy bandits, and we could add brothels that will buy females, we could do something like hydra slaves, and under orders abduct NPCs and deliver them to Jarls... and then get quests from their familys to rescue their loved ones... hm that would be fun. Capture Idgrod the Younger (have Babes of Skyrim installed) Train her for awhile, and then bring her to who ever placed the order for her, get a letter from her mother, or father asking you to come see them for a matter of great importance, get offered a great reward for freeing their daughter, you show the letter to her owner, and tell what they asked for, help finish her training and bring her back a storm cloak spy and assassin, who in turn secretly kills her mother with your help frames her father becomes Jarl and builds a shrine to Talos.    Also if your Stealth is high enough and you have the magic enslaving arrows, you can enslave a char in the Jarls castle during the day with everyone their it is fun to pull off too. Also getting people in town the mask of the grey fox works, the grey fox gets the crime stat not the player, and I use a mod that allows me to temporarily turn NPCs into followers I use it to enslave people by leading them away, and to deal with bugged NPCs that are not where they are supposed to be and blocking quest progression because of it.
pinky6225 Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Hi,  I've loaded 6.1.2 and everything is working well EXCEPT (sorry to shout) that the slave animations all assume that my male Dovahkin is female.  I've been looking through this forum and have double checked SL settings and load orders and have obviously missed something.  Could somebody please help?  Have this as well with male PC when using the sex dialogues on female bandits, checked in SL mcm and my PC is definately set to male
2Dimm Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 i hope no one asked before, but is this compatible with NPC Knockout Overhaul and/or Death Alternative? does anyone use those mods and paradise halls with no problems?
Pfiffy Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016     . Is there a way to legalize slavery? maayybee, lol i'll definitely add that to my list of things to look into as a possibility  it was always a bit of a hassle trying to enslave somebody in city limitsi'd have to lure them out of town to avoid the legalities of it or if i was already out of town, but just wanted to enslave a guard on patrol for the hell of it i'd switch to my succubus form provided by the succubus race so the fines aren't applied when i enslave the guards either (technically i could do that in town as well, but that makes the guards hostile so it can be alot of hostiles to deal with)   I would like a set of quests to legalize limited slavery in each hold, I would even be willing to do the writing for the quests... I just have no technical skills to build the quests.   My idea resolves around factions, Markarth would be willing to buy Forsworn, Storm cloak citys would be willing to buy imperial soldiers and Thalmor, Imperial Citys would buy storm cloaks, and most would buy bandits, and we could add brothels that will buy females, we could do something like hydra slaves, and under orders abduct NPCs and deliver them to Jarls... and then get quests from their familys to rescue their loved ones... hm that would be fun. Capture Idgrod the Younger (have Babes of Skyrim installed) Train her for awhile, and then bring her to who ever placed the order for her, get a letter from her mother, or father asking you to come see them for a matter of great importance, get offered a great reward for freeing their daughter, you show the letter to her owner, and tell what they asked for, help finish her training and bring her back a storm cloak spy and assassin, who in turn secretly kills her mother with your help frames her father becomes Jarl and builds a shrine to Talos.    Also if your Stealth is high enough and you have the magic enslaving arrows, you can enslave a char in the Jarls castle during the day with everyone their it is fun to pull off too. Also getting people in town the mask of the grey fox works, the grey fox gets the crime stat not the player, and I use a mod that allows me to temporarily turn NPCs into followers I use it to enslave people by leading them away, and to deal with bugged NPCs that are not where they are supposed to be and blocking quest progression because of it.  But first we have to get this working as it should.... The only help I can offer in this case is reporting bugs... Â
Exaltedmidget Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 I only don't want outright legal slavery because it goes against the lore the Empire is massively anti Slavery, but I can see the storm clocks screaming about their ancestral rights to own Elves and Ulfric doing nothing about it do to his programing. So legal no... people being okay with it in limited ways yes.
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