Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home (SE/LE)

[Musje]

On 6/24/2019 at 7:14 AM, Fetterbr said:

I actually found a workaround for the training paused, you check who the trainer is of the paused slave, than you ask them to bring the slave in the cell and then ask them to fetch the slave again. This seams to do the trick

Yes, that will work. By the way the stupid bug is still there I suspect it happens when you bring in an untrained slave, these are locked in the cell by default, and they may remain stuck in the "training paused" mode because of that.

[Musje]

On 6/24/2019 at 3:35 AM, Harry Smackmeat said:

 

umm are they always essential now or is that situational or a mcm toggle?  I tend to enslave everything that takes a knee in front of me, and if I take their helmet off and don't like the looks of em they eventually get a very intentional swift, fatal whack to the head and now they're going to get up afterward and I have to continue to look at them as I slowly trek to Dawnstar to sell them?

They are always essential now, the expectation of most people is that the slaves are safe in your home. So if you want to get rid of them, just remove them from the house first. You don;t want blood & dead bodies on your carpets after all. Even better: sell them

[Musje]

2 hours ago, elfdrow said:

anyone else having this issue?

-after making a slave, you change the clothes and all npc's that use the same model now share the new clothes

I have enslaved a thalmor justiciar  that attacked me (the ones that elenwen sent after you). and now I seen 2 patrols of thalmor with a mage naked with an auction amulet lol

also bandits in miner outfits with rope collars and pickaxes for weapons XD . and some plain naked that resemble the ones that I left in the house training.

not sure if the issue comes from this mod, or could be immersive patrols or warzone civil unrest

 

btw. what is the best way to train respect? because the most I could was getting 69. and that is my all time record, most of the time I can only get 52 tops

Yes, that is the long standing "naked bandit" bug in PAHE. Check the PAHE menu, there are some extra options for the cloning process to, turning them on will prevent this from happening in many cases.

[Musje]

9 hours ago, Fetterbr said:

Not sure if its only me but as soon as i go near an auktion in the city it just crashes. Everything else seams fine

Is it any city or only certain ones? And when does it crash, when you approach the auction master or after you have talked to him to plan the auction?

[Fetterbr]

24 minutes ago, Musje said:

Is it any city or only certain ones? And when does it crash, when you approach the auction master or after you have talked to him to plan the auction?

last time was in solitude, i just clicked on the auktion master and it crashed. In whiterun i just approach him and it crashed

[Skata20]

Hello there! Is the SE version gonna be updated? If not, is a simple conversion of the files with Nif optimizer type of tools gonna be enough?

[fred200]

1 hour ago, Skata20 said:

Hello there! Is the SE version gonna be updated? If not, is a simple conversion of the files with Nif optimizer type of tools gonna be enough?

Conversion is a well defined process, and this mod is not hard. Don't forget any .hkx files. Try it - learning something is always good.

 

[Musje]

40 minutes ago, fred200 said:

Conversion is a well defined process, and this mod is not hard. Don't forget any .hkx files. Try it - learning something is always good.

 

No hkx files were changed between this version and the last, so you can copy them from the previous version of the SE release.

[fred200]

54 minutes ago, Musje said:

No hkx files were changed between this version and the last, so you can copy them from the previous version of the SE release.

For the purpose of education, it is really worth learning the Havok conversion tool. Downloading the Creation Kit gives it to you free.

In Skyrim Special Edition/Tools you will find a folder HavokBehaviorPostProcess. That contains the conversion program, a batch file to run it, and a readme.

I copy the .exe and the .bat to whatever unzipped mod I want to convert. When you run the bat, the .exe scurries among your subfolders looking for .hkx files. Those it converts. Delete the original conversion .exe and bat - you are done. 

[Magos567]

Thanks for the update, the mod gets better and better ??

[xyzxyz]

A female slaves trains a male slave with a strap-on... Maybe you should change that. It works with a female player better.

[SaltyPotat]

I'm looking at mods like SL Disparity, Hormones, and Devious Training and I see that there seem to be ways to create visual results to specific actions and cumulative stats. Would it be possible to integrate that into Pahe? So that specific training could create visual results. I don't know if I should be mentioning it here or in the Pahe thread.

The overall idea is that it would be possible to make a Radiant quest line that involves creating specific looking trainee's with certain stat thresholds that yield those visual characteristics. The idea actually stemmed from running into the funny and weird Berry encounter in Hydragorgon's mod. It raised the question, what if you could change an NPC's colour, or even their appearance over time. If you could do that and put it together with finding a radiant quest item. In Berry's case high grade fruits, but in Skyrim terms more akin to the fine cut void salt quest or radiant book quests. It could result in an interesting series of quests and specific training goals.

 

[Fetterbr]

Ok i tryed to convert pahe, hsh and aygas yesterday after having a problem on LE. But i can see the problem persists also after conversion to SE.  Every else is working great, i also converted DM2, ITF, Serial Stripper and Serial Strip what is also working great.  I am using Cathedral Assets Optimizer to do the conversion.

Still the problem is that when i come near an auktion in the city my game crashes.  I dont know if you can replicate the issue on your game.

[whatsoldier]

On 6/25/2019 at 3:55 AM, elfdrow said:

btw. what is the best way to train respect? because the most I could was getting 69. and that is my all time record, most of the time I can only get 52 tops

I think it depends on the slave. One of my slaves has 72 respect and I could not increase it further. I trained another slave and got something above 90 in no time.

[Musje]

8 hours ago, Fetterbr said:

Ok i tryed to convert pahe, hsh and aygas yesterday after having a problem on LE. But i can see the problem persists also after conversion to SE.  Every else is working great, i also converted DM2, ITF, Serial Stripper and Serial Strip what is also working great.  I am using Cathedral Assets Optimizer to do the conversion.

Still the problem is that when i come near an auktion in the city my game crashes.  I dont know if you can replicate the issue on your game.

That's weird. I can't replicate the issue, and where it happens to only 1 player it is usually due to a messed up install, load order, or corrupt save. But to have it happen both in SE and LE suggests something else is going on. Maybe a mod conflict?

 

As someone mentioned in another thread, one needs to be careful converting facegen nifs to SE or crashes ensue. Did you follow the process correctly?

[fred200]

4 hours ago, Musje said:

That's weird. I can't replicate the issue, and where it happens to only 1 player it is usually due to a messed up install, load order, or corrupt save. But to have it happen both in SE and LE suggests something else is going on. Maybe a mod conflict?

 

As someone mentioned in another thread, one needs to be careful converting facegen nifs to SE or crashes ensue. Did you follow the process correctly?

Crash in vicinity of Auction = bad NIF conversion. The OP would be better served by copying your previous HSH SE version NIFs or test by deleting all the facegen nifs. Might have black faces - but that is not as bad as CTD.

[Fetterbr]

@Musje Is there a reason why i cant keep the slave trainers wearing the clothes i give them ? mostly happens when they lay down on the bed they undress and dont take the clothes on again. Seen also sometimes when they have sex that all on some parts of the clothes is not dressed again. Is it only special clothes what i have to use ?

[Musje]

3 minutes ago, Fetterbr said:

@Musje Is there a reason why i cant keep the slave trainers wearing the clothes i give them ? mostly happens when they lay down on the bed they undress and dont take the clothes on again. Seen also sometimes when they have sex that all on some parts of the clothes is not dressed again. Is it only special clothes what i have to use ?

It's mostly a problem with NPCs having default outfits (as defined in CK), basically it's a bug in Skyrim. So far I have not found a fix for this, as a workaround the mod will redress the slaves hen you enter the cell.

[xyzxyz]

Could you take a look at the training systems between slaves? They always get addresed as female, although a male slave is in training  and the sensual art training is weird because a female trainer uses a strap-on with a male slave.

[XarisZ]

Since Zap9 isnt released will i have issues if i download the latest version?

Also do you know when that's gonna release?

[Musje]

14 hours ago, XarisZ said:

Since Zap9 isnt released will i have issues if i download the latest version?

Also do you know when that's gonna release?

No, and no

 

HSH detects which version of ZAP you have, and is compatible with versions 7 to 9.

[elfdrow]

ok... another noob question lol

how do you buy slaves from the auction? O_o

 

@Musje

suggestion: adding pre made training dungeons/cells. ok a bit of context is needed for this one.

not sure if you are familiar with the mod name hearth craft. basically uses campfire framework to add furniture any place you want.

I know you already did this here. (similar but more optimized) but the curious thing about hearth craft is that it also allows you to craft and place homes wherever you want. you can build and place farmhouses literally anywhere (even inside cities)

now a home might be too much hassle... but a placeable trap door, or a simple door that leads to a rabbit hole pre made cell with all the necessities (enough beds, training gear) could simplify things.

also they could be added to vanilla homes (and maybe outside) more easy and without sacrificing space from the vanilla home.

 

now. the only issue I had with hearth craft and pahe is that the slaves won't/can't enter the door (all other followers/pets could follow you inside. but not slaves. so I had to teleport them inside and out)

so that would be something to keep in mind. (maybe the way pahe handles the followers could make this suggestion not viable )

[tznvlw]

For SSE users, you can try this from me

 

 

[Musje]

2 hours ago, elfdrow said:

ok... another noob question lol

how do you buy slaves from the auction? O_o

 

@Musje

suggestion: adding pre made training dungeons/cells. ok a bit of context is needed for this one.

not sure if you are familiar with the mod name hearth craft. basically uses campfire framework to add furniture any place you want.

I know you already did this here. (similar but more optimized) but the curious thing about hearth craft is that it also allows you to craft and place homes wherever you want. you can build and place farmhouses literally anywhere (even inside cities)

now a home might be too much hassle... but a placeable trap door, or a simple door that leads to a rabbit hole pre made cell with all the necessities (enough beds, training gear) could simplify things.

also they could be added to vanilla homes (and maybe outside) more easy and without sacrificing space from the vanilla home.

 

now. the only issue I had with hearth craft and pahe is that the slaves won't/can't enter the door (all other followers/pets could follow you inside. but not slaves. so I had to teleport them inside and out)

so that would be something to keep in mind. (maybe the way pahe handles the followers could make this suggestion not viable )

While the auction is running, watch the top left corner of the screen, you should see a prompt to press Enter to place a bid, when the auction master calls for bids. You have a few seconds to do so. When you win the auction, you can pick up your new slave after all lots are auctioned off.

 

HSH slaves will never follow you into separate rooms (access by teleport) unless you put an extra house cell in that room, but I am surprised that the PAHE slaves will not follow you there. It might be an issue with navmeshes missing... That mod sounds interesting, I'll give it a spin and see if there is a fix.

 

[Musje]

1 hour ago, tznvlw said:

For SSE users, you can try this from me

 

 

For anyone playing with this, keep an eye out for the following issue that I noticed in my own conversion. In some (but not all) cases, Aygas prostitutes will do their little dialogue then go with clients to a nearby bed, but the sex animation will not actually play. Let me know if you notice this as well.

 

I'm still setting up SE for a serious playthrough, but I have 100s of outfit mods that I want (need) and it is a royal pain in the rear end to convert them all