Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home (SE/LE)

[DonQuiWho]

@Musje

 

Hi.  Posted a query a couple of times upthread, which, as I'm sure you're very busy, you might have missed

 

Won't repeat it all here, but are you able to give me any clue, please, as to what I might want to look for, or do, if my HSH slaves aren't being paralysed by the HSH/Heretical scripts combo to allow the Wall chain attachment function to work properly?

 

TIA, for whatever you can suggest ?

 

 

[nima90000]

I have a problem with PAH when using immersive wenches, deadly wenches, and mods related to them. When I try to enslave them they get cloned and then they start saying you disgust me and they don't listen. There is no "Ok slave..." option in the dialogues either. It's like if I'm talking to a wench and there is a bad relationship between us. The only way I can make them follow me is by paying them but they don't act like a slave.

 

[DonQuiWho]

5 hours ago, nima90000 said:

I have a problem with PAH when using immersive wenches, deadly wenches, and mods related to them. When I try to enslave them they get cloned and then they start saying you disgust me and they don't listen. There is no "Ok slave..." option in the dialogues either. It's like if I'm talking to a wench and there is a bad relationship between us. The only way I can make them follow me is by paying them but they don't act like a slave.

 

Probably thinks you married her ....

[Gräfin Zeppelin]

9 hours ago, nima90000 said:

I have a problem with PAH when using immersive wenches, deadly wenches, and mods related to them. When I try to enslave them they get cloned and then they start saying you disgust me and they don't listen. There is no "Ok slave..." option in the dialogues either. It's like if I'm talking to a wench and there is a bad relationship between us. The only way I can make them follow me is by paying them but they don't act like a slave.

 

Hmm I enslaved some of the immersive wenches with no problems at all.

[nailkaiser]

On 5/14/2019 at 5:19 PM, Musje said:

This happens sometimes. My advise is to save your game just before the auction starts (that can be after everyone files down the stairs, but before the auction master bids everyone welcome in the basement). If the thing gets stuck, load the saved game and try again. Usually it goes right through on the second try. If it keeps getting stuck you might have to reinstall the mod as Fettebr suggested.

yeh reinstall it seem to fix it, while at it can i ask is it normal for my slaves to randomly die of unknown causes, i look for an empty interior like helgen barack and set the house token leave them with a mistress for manage training, once in a while i come back some of them just die with no cropses and message die due to unknown causes appear.

[Fetterbr]

2 hours ago, nailkaiser said:

yeh reinstall it seem to fix it, while at it can i ask is it normal for my slaves to randomly die of unknown causes, i look for an empty interior like helgen barack and set the house token leave them with a mistress for manage training, once in a while i come back some of them just die with no cropses and message die due to unknown causes appear.

Try set the taskmaster to not training combat, I have had a few die because of this, especially when you have mage slaves among them.

[nima90000]

What mods might cause incompatibility? 

[Gräfin Zeppelin]

8 minutes ago, nima90000 said:

What mods might cause incompatibility with PAH? 

Not sure but it sounds like a load order problem to me. Do you use Loot or something similar ?

[nima90000]

4 hours ago, Gräfin Zeppelin said:

Not sure but it sounds like a load order problem to me. Do you use Loot or something similar ?

I do use loot. The problem is not new it was there from the beginning when I downloaded the mod 8months ago. Just didn't feel like posting it. These are all my mods and yes it's stable it took me 4years till this became a game with 230mods and stable. I tried a new game too.
 

 

 

 

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[Psalam]

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43 minutes ago, nima90000 said:

I do use loot. The problem is not new it was there from the beginning when I downloaded the mod 8months ago. Just didn't feel like posting it. These are all my mods and yes it's stable it took me 4years till this became a game with 230mods and stable. I tried a new game too.
 

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This is from Musje on this thread on 2016/12/21:

 

Deadly Wenches might be problematic (others reported issues with them). Try with a regular bandit or unique NPC.

[NIND (jimmyyu)]

1 hour ago, nima90000 said:

I do use loot. The problem is not new it was there from the beginning when I downloaded the mod 8months ago. Just didn't feel like posting it. These are all my mods and yes it's stable it took me 4years till this became a game with 230mods and stable. I tried a new game too.
 

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Now that you mention it, I've never enslaved a deadly wench, only the kinds that are available in the standard pack, vampire, merchant, ect

[donttouchmethere]

21 minutes ago, jimmyyu said:

Now that you mention it, I've never enslaved a deadly wench, only the kinds that are available in the standard pack, vampire, merchant, ect

I enslaved a traveling immersive wench with PAHE and put her into the ETR dungeons.

A few days later and I had an immersive wenches bodyguard in my HF home (the ones that the traveling wenches normaly have) ?

After a while the bodyguard found her way down into the dungeon.

Much later she just vanished (with the bodyguard).

If I ever find the one that left the dungeon doors open ?

 

(I would say a successful rescue operation by the bodyguard)

[nima90000]

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

This is from Musje on this thread on 2016/12/21:

 

Deadly Wenches might be problematic (others reported issues with them). Try with a regular bandit or unique NPC.

 

30 minutes ago, jimmyyu said:

Now that you mention it, I've never enslaved a deadly wench, only the kinds that are available in the standard pack, vampire, merchant, ect

I'll try enslaving a wench then I'll let you know what happened

[NIND (jimmyyu)]

1 hour ago, nima90000 said:

 

I'll try enslaving a wench then I'll let you know what happened

I don't know if it helps, but I'm using SL defeat, so the expedient way to go about capture is to walk behind them with your weapon out and press the SL defeat action key (Defaults to 'g).

 

They normally say something along the lines of "Mercy" and then the interaction options come up.  Selecting enslave will then result in the standard cloning procedure.

[nailkaiser]

On 5/18/2019 at 4:50 AM, Fetterbr said:

Try set the taskmaster to not training combat, I have had a few die because of this, especially when you have mage slaves among them.

yeh that doesnt work still get occasionally die from unnatural cause message also some of the npc slaves that you get from your training camp sometime bug out when u get them from the camp right after you zone outside, they lost the slave marker and stop following you then just go back to the camp on their own, cant get them to follow anymore after that.I believe it might be because of the training charges that lock the npc to script to go back to place.

[GoldenDuck]

Is it alright to converted this mod to SE? Do I converted in the usually way, or is there an extra step involved?

[Lodakai]

Deadly wenches work fine for me.  Have for years.   Only things to note....

they have innate combat on hit skills that can trigger when they train or train with other slaves in combat, or when they are whipping.  

This can cause explosions and other such things.

 

If you are having trouble with their dialogue, you may want to check to see if you have RDO with dialogue blocked for hated status.  This will prevent you from talking to them.

 

Also if you use captured wenches, they are duplicated within that mod itself.. so if you clone a slave from that mod.. and another one that uses the same template... they will behave as if they have the same AI and this will cause all kinds of issues.

[nima90000]

3 hours ago, Lodakai said:

Deadly wenches work fine for me.  Have for years.   Only things to note....

they have innate combat on hit skills that can trigger when they train or train with other slaves in combat, or when they are whipping.  

This can cause explosions and other such things.

 

If you are having trouble with their dialogue, you may want to check to see if you have RDO with dialogue blocked for hated status.  This will prevent you from talking to them.

 

Also if you use captured wenches, they are duplicated within that mod itself.. so if you clone a slave from that mod.. and another one that uses the same template... they will behave as if they have the same AI and this will cause all kinds of issues.

Thanks, I'm gonna try what you said. Captured wenches was added after this problem so I guess I have to try with RDO first.

[IA.Echo.Hotel]

I'm having a problem exclusively with HSH slaves, things are repeating/looping.

The first case was a SOS "Hey there. . ." "Would you like to become a futanari?" interaction that infinitely looped while spamming the drinking sound.

After that it was something with SGO that spammed particle effects.

Then there was the time I tried to make a HSH slave a MME milkmaid and I started getting infinite pop ups of "XXXX had a breast induced orgasm"

Then there was second SOS Futanari interaction with multiple HSH slaves that went wonky.

Now there is another one going on with no audio or visual cues but my framerate has dropped by half just like the other times, I suppose I should mention that there doesn't seem to be any proximity requirement for the framerate damage or sound effect spam.

I know HSH is at least part of the problem because "time to hit the road" fixes the problem, thought there were a few instances of the bug with new vendor trash slaves that were sorted out with a battle axe as well.

 

I couldn't find any mention of looping or spamming in the forum, is this a new thing or are my search skills just bad?

[nailkaiser]

there is still a bit of problem with the auction, while if i stay for the auction the event will play out without any problem, but if i choose to "i have to leave"dialogue  and leave right away he wont give me dialogue to get my money from the auction option. It's only a bit of a minor problem since if i stay till he sell off at least one of my *own slave(reload and retry multiple time to test the spawn in slaves doesn't fix this problem only my own slave count, wish there is an option to stop other slaves to spawn to shorten the waiting time) then the get money from the auction will show up when talk to him. Lastly, the place is quite small, it can be a nightmare  when u have a huge batch of slaves/followers u bringing with on top with the additional npc.

[Harry Smackmeat]

I can't find this anywhere, but is there a way to make a slave stop dancing once I told them to dance?

So far the only way I seem to be able to get them to stop is to briefly make them wear bindings, then remove em, otherwise they pose or dance while gliding around if I give em another command. o_0

[nailkaiser]

18 hours ago, Harry Smackmeat said:

I can't find this anywhere, but is there a way to make a slave stop dancing once I told them to dance?

So far the only way I seem to be able to get them to stop is to briefly make them wear bindings, then remove em, otherwise they pose or dance while gliding around if I give em another command. o_0

try to get the sexlab defeat mod then beat them within an inch of their life then choose tie them up option then untie see if that fix the animation then if that still wont work try put them in a bag then release them, the sexlab defeat is really good for temporarily fix frozen npc.

[Harry Smackmeat]

1 hour ago, nailkaiser said:

try to get the sexlab defeat mod then beat them within an inch of their life then choose tie them up option then untie see if that fix the animation then if that still wont work try put them in a bag then release them, the sexlab defeat is really good for temporarily fix frozen npc.

hmm... no no no that's not nearly convoluted enough.

[nima90000]

On 5/20/2019 at 12:12 PM, Lodakai said:

Deadly wenches work fine for me.  Have for years.   Only things to note....

they have innate combat on hit skills that can trigger when they train or train with other slaves in combat, or when they are whipping.  

This can cause explosions and other such things.

 

If you are having trouble with their dialogue, you may want to check to see if you have RDO with dialogue blocked for hated status.  This will prevent you from talking to them.

 

Also if you use captured wenches, they are duplicated within that mod itself.. so if you clone a slave from that mod.. and another one that uses the same template... they will behave as if they have the same AI and this will cause all kinds of issues.

Somehow after switching from ssme to skse.ini all my problems are gone. Although I didn't get to try this solution I just wanted to thank everyone.

[fooku]

How can you get multiple cells in a house? This one is getting crowded and it seems like the dialogue indicates you can move them around.