zaira Posted February 13, 2017 Author Posted February 13, 2017 ME prevents slave- and pimp prostitutes from getting Money at all, even in dungeons and loot. if you Play a free prostitute, ME or any prostitute mod, the Problem is, that the Money from selling items is too high to make Prostitution necessary. especially self crafted items can be sold in masses. so i have the idea to prevent pc selling at all. vendors sell their items to the pc, and the pc can buy them, but the pc can never sell anything. (no Second Hand Shops!) sadly i have no idea how ro make such a mod. additionally, the pc should pay a Trainer lessen for every perk point he allocates. this way Money is really needed and Prostitution is really necessary and not just some nice animations. This shall be possible with small modifications and it is a cool idea - I'll try to integrate it as an option it is the Game Setting fBarterSellMax - zero and you can sell anything to anybody... (CreationKit Manu GamePlay - Settings or Papyrus Game.SetGameSettingFloat("fBarterSellMax",0). Will be part of next ME release. for which tags does the anal sex looking for ? i never get one. You shall not wear anything that prevents Anal Sex (eg. Chastity Belt) - then ME looks for animations containing the tag "Anal" and Gender Tag (MF, FF etc.)
shiagwen Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 ME prevents slave- and pimp prostitutes from getting Money at all, even in dungeons and loot. if you Play a free prostitute, ME or any prostitute mod, the Problem is, that the Money from selling items is too high to make Prostitution necessary. especially self crafted items can be sold in masses. so i have the idea to prevent pc selling at all. vendors sell their items to the pc, and the pc can buy them, but the pc can never sell anything. (no Second Hand Shops!) sadly i have no idea how ro make such a mod. additionally, the pc should pay a Trainer lessen for every perk point he allocates. this way Money is really needed and Prostitution is really necessary and not just some nice animations. This shall be possible with small modifications and it is a cool idea - I'll try to integrate it as an option it is the Game Setting fBarterSellMax - zero and you can sell anything to anybody... (CreationKit Manu GamePlay - Settings or Papyrus Game.SetGameSettingFloat("fBarterSellMax",0). Will be part of next ME release. for which tags does the anal sex looking for ? i never get one. You shall not wear anything that prevents Anal Sex (eg. Chastity Belt) - then ME looks for animations containing the tag "Anal" and Gender Tag (MF, FF etc.) i never ever wear anything that prevents any kind of sex. but i get regularly animations with no anal tag in when offered anal sex, mostly vaginal, like leito cowgirl or anub missionary. if foieplay is enabled in sexlab, then really anything appears after the foreplay, even a second foreplay.
zaira Posted February 14, 2017 Author Posted February 14, 2017 I simply use the official tag search functions of Sexlab, the gender filter was written with the help of the Sexlab author. So maybe your animation DB is broken or Sexlab needs a bugfix. Try manual animation selection...
BigOnes69 Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Perfectly described: Skyrim has been completely played several times by most of us. There is no reason why MariaEden shall take care about vanilla game play. I use the whole game as a stage for BDSM adventures. Nothing more and nothing less. If you could make a list of available scripts and their input outputs so that others could create story's mods for Maria it would add a missing element to bdsm type mods. Sort of like Scent of Sex. I know its a lot to ask but everything involving bdsm mods is generic no quest mods. Making your alternate start available to other starts would be big also. I always wanted to do a quest with all skyrim quests completed and the character falling from favor into a bdsm adventure. With all quests completed it would take a lot of stress off the engine. I have used Sperg to make advancement minimal and Complete all quests to modify part of the quests complete at the start using Live another life. By the time the batch file runs you have less than 10 levels which leaves enough adventure time before the engine limits start to effect the game. If an author could use your alternate start in combination it would almost be like having a clean game to start their adventure. Authors could then write their storyline utilizing your scripts as results. Your alternate start at the beginning transports the character to be sold after running the complete all quests scripts. A story board could be utilized describing how the Dovakeen fell from favor after saving the world. Start adventure here. A new Skyrim awaits you.
krescent0 Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 ME prevents slave- and pimp prostitutes from getting Money at all, even in dungeons and loot. if you Play a free prostitute, ME or any prostitute mod, the Problem is, that the Money from selling items is too high to make Prostitution necessary. especially self crafted items can be sold in masses. so i have the idea to prevent pc selling at all. vendors sell their items to the pc, and the pc can buy them, but the pc can never sell anything. (no Second Hand Shops!) sadly i have no idea how ro make such a mod. additionally, the pc should pay a Trainer lessen for every perk point he allocates. this way Money is really needed and Prostitution is really necessary and not just some nice animations. This shall be possible with small modifications and it is a cool idea - I'll try to integrate it as an option it is the Game Setting fBarterSellMax - zero and you can sell anything to anybody... (CreationKit Manu GamePlay - Settings or Papyrus Game.SetGameSettingFloat("fBarterSellMax",0). Will be part of next ME release. When do you plan to release the next update, zaira? Please give us an ETA...
zaira Posted February 14, 2017 Author Posted February 14, 2017 Great idea: I would integrate it immediately to my auto start mod. Please provide detailed information how to complete the main quest via scripts. Regarding the Framework stuff: in the past I have provided a mod event based interface including documentation: almost nobody has ever used it. Generic BDSM mechanics will become part of ZaZExtensionPack, Builder System will become an own separate mod.
Baron Samedi Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 ME prevents slave- and pimp prostitutes from getting Money at all, even in dungeons and loot. if you Play a free prostitute, ME or any prostitute mod, the Problem is, that the Money from selling items is too high to make Prostitution necessary. especially self crafted items can be sold in masses. so i have the idea to prevent pc selling at all. vendors sell their items to the pc, and the pc can buy them, but the pc can never sell anything. (no Second Hand Shops!) sadly i have no idea how ro make such a mod. additionally, the pc should pay a Trainer lessen for every perk point he allocates. this way Money is really needed and Prostitution is really necessary and not just some nice animations. This shall be possible with small modifications and it is a cool idea - I'll try to integrate it as an option it is the Game Setting fBarterSellMax - zero and you can sell anything to anybody... (CreationKit Manu GamePlay - Settings or Papyrus Game.SetGameSettingFloat("fBarterSellMax",0). Will be part of next ME release. When do you plan to release the next update, zaira? Please give us an ETA... When he ready son.
Zor2k13 Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 Great idea: I would integrate it immediately to my auto start mod. Please provide detailed information how to complete the main quest via scripts. Regarding the Framework stuff: in the past I have provided a mod event based interface including documentation: almost nobody has ever used it. Generic BDSM mechanics will become part of ZaZExtensionPack, Builder System will become an own separate mod. All we really need is an addon for LAL mod for your quickstart mod. The main quest is boring and it can be totally ignored and also properly handled by LAL mod so if the player wants to ignore it they can. What most people can do is just visit every hold and let the intro AI packages of npcs play out then the npcs don't get screwed up by dragon attacks if they are standing outside. Alternatively you could change the scripts for those packages and tell them they are already finished so the npcs won't be waiting in each hold for the player to show up but instead be on their normal packages. I use immerslave mod for LAL start and it works fine would be nice to have an ME option in LAL. I wish you would change the training and auction scenes to be more automated so the player can't choose to disobey the jailer or the auction guy. The only things the player should be able to do is walk their character around to the places they are supposed to stand and then the mod does the rest. The player should first be beaten and raped a lot before they do the training dance and get visits from npcs. Why would the player just go along with the training? But if they were beaten and raped first it would make more sense. The npc visits should happen a lot before the player is sold too make it look like the jailer is pimping the player to the visitors too.
nameless701 Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 If you dont want the Mainquest,use SkyrimUnbound. This works with ME
BigOnes69 Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 Great idea: I would integrate it immediately to my auto start mod. Please provide detailed information how to complete the main quest via scripts. Regarding the Framework stuff: in the past I have provided a mod event based interface including documentation: almost nobody has ever used it. Generic BDSM mechanics will become part of ZaZExtensionPack, Builder System will become an own separate mod. I do this through batch files in the console with a mod called Complete all quests. You can run batch files through your mod and the command lines exist all throughout the internet so permissions would not be required for this guy just cut and pasted. Here is the link on Nexus. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/32141/? The commands are in text format. I would be interested in completing an add on of your mod. My only problem is understanding scripts so if this was easier through your mod and I could just create and have your mod perform the scripts through some form of cut and paste I could contribute. I understand most everything else in creation kit. I have a few ideas. As far as limiting character leveling to a minimum I use Sperg but there are console commands and Ini edits that can do such. Sperg writes directly to ini files so your mod could do the same at your alternate start. Thus limiting the complete quest batch completion and character leveling could be slowed to a crawl. The character would then have less than 10 levels after the batch files completed.
BigOnes69 Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 No Lal please Zaira has his own alternate start. Great idea: I would integrate it immediately to my auto start mod. Please provide detailed information how to complete the main quest via scripts. Regarding the Framework stuff: in the past I have provided a mod event based interface including documentation: almost nobody has ever used it. Generic BDSM mechanics will become part of ZaZExtensionPack, Builder System will become an own separate mod. All we really need is an addon for LAL mod for your quickstart mod. The main quest is boring and it can be totally ignored and also properly handled by LAL mod so if the player wants to ignore it they can. What most people can do is just visit every hold and let the intro AI packages of npcs play out then the npcs don't get screwed up by dragon attacks if they are standing outside. Alternatively you could change the scripts for those packages and tell them they are already finished so the npcs won't be waiting in each hold for the player to show up but instead be on their normal packages. I use immerslave mod for LAL start and it works fine would be nice to have an ME option in LAL. I wish you would change the training and auction scenes to be more automated so the player can't choose to disobey the jailer or the auction guy. The only things the player should be able to do is walk their character around to the places they are supposed to stand and then the mod does the rest. The player should first be beaten and raped a lot before they do the training dance and get visits from npcs. Why would the player just go along with the training? But if they were beaten and raped first it would make more sense. The npc visits should happen a lot before the player is sold too make it look like the jailer is pimping the player to the visitors too.
galgat Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 No Lal please Zaira has his own alternate start. Yeppers! I agree, zaira;s alternate start is excellent for me, it may need some more touches added, but I like it just fine. I never could get into live another life, and much prefer just using the no random dragons mod to avoid all the useless, or annoying dragon battles. Which still allows me to fight the quest oriented dragons when ever I want to.
Zor2k13 Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 Well lets see what happens when you use ME quickstart, go to helgen and notice it is not destroyed and all the actors including the horsy thief are standing around trying to kill each other and it borks the unbound quest. So if you have a mod like helgen reborn or some other stuff it gets borked too? LAL just works and it is incredibly easy to just go to helgen and see the dragon fly away and get the marker to go find the journal and complete unbound quest so how can this not be good? It is also made by the author of the unofficial patches which fix a lot of things so even better! I like being able to just wander my dumb horny blonde bimbo character over to helgen whenever I want and start the vanilla stuff. I get her as far as whiterun and killing the first dragon then let lydia tame her dumb ass over time with DD mods and too much dungeon delving with DEC mod and screwing around at home with all the stuff lydia found in dungeons:-)
shiagwen Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 i have read that ME is incompatible with AFT. But is that true if : - pc plays a free prostitute, no pimp, no slave master, no innkeeper - follower never uses ME in any way, maybe she uses tdf Prostitution. - no ME voices ?
zaira Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 i have read that ME is incompatible with AFT. But is that true if : - pc plays a free prostitute, no pimp, no slave master, no innkeeper - follower never uses ME in any way, maybe she uses tdf Prostitution. - no ME voices ? I don't know - I think there shall be no interferences at all because ME is not touching the standard follower stuff. But definitely no ME voices - that will come with next release (6 different voices for vanilla NPCs, 2 voices for vanilla children) Hi, zaira... if you like you should add this to your new update too: That´s now the "bathroom-Version" of that "metallcage01"...cute and sexy-lol ??? - more details per PM? Next ZeP Release is planned in some days.
akroma3310 Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 I'm so excited for the death penalty addition to in Solitude.
shiagwen Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 ME prevents slave- and pimp prostitutes from getting Money at all, even in dungeons and loot. if you Play a free prostitute, ME or any prostitute mod, the Problem is, that the Money from selling items is too high to make Prostitution necessary. especially self crafted items can be sold in masses. so i have the idea to prevent pc selling at all. vendors sell their items to the pc, and the pc can buy them, but the pc can never sell anything. (no Second Hand Shops!) sadly i have no idea how ro make such a mod. additionally, the pc should pay a Trainer lessen for every perk point he allocates. this way Money is really needed and Prostitution is really necessary and not just some nice animations. This shall be possible with small modifications and it is a cool idea - I'll try to integrate it as an option fbartersellmax Zero works fine, thanks Zaira ! now the Gold comes from goldloot, questrewards and Prostitution - fine. BUT there is still no reason in skyrim to make Money at all ! Buy houses and horses is all you can spend your Money for, rarely a weapon or armor piece. In all classic games it has been the Trainers who suck the money. thats why i wrote the last sentence above. so if you want to allocate a Perk Point in twohanded you have to go to Vilkas, buy a Training lesson, and then allocate a perk Point in the twohanded perktree. this is easy to Play (except the lessons above 90, which requires console), but i guess to do this as a mod, it is a bit work. Surely you already know how to make this and you could do it in five minutes. right ?
zaira Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 You need a mod that enforces you to sleep (outside you get frozen) and eat and drink and buy clothes and that adds erosion to clothes and weapons. For hooking in cities you have to pay. Then you are really busy earning money all day long Additionally I want to introduce drug addiction, drugs are expensive. Healers shall cost something
BigOnes69 Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 No Lal please Zaira has his own alternate start. Yeppers! I agree, zaira;s alternate start is excellent for me, it may need some more touches added, but I like it just fine. I never could get into live another life, and much prefer just using the no random dragons mod to avoid all the useless, or annoying dragon battles. Which still allows me to fight the quest oriented dragons when ever I want to. Lal puts stress on the engine, it has requirements to achieve for the game that you must do boring repetitive requirements to complete , it adds to the save game script limitations, so I prefer something that is cleaner and allows me to play longer before the script load in saves makes that particular character unplayable.
Zor2k13 Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 No Lal please Zaira has his own alternate start. Yeppers! I agree, zaira;s alternate start is excellent for me, it may need some more touches added, but I like it just fine. I never could get into live another life, and much prefer just using the no random dragons mod to avoid all the useless, or annoying dragon battles. Which still allows me to fight the quest oriented dragons when ever I want to. Lal puts stress on the engine, it has requirements to achieve for the game that you must do boring repetitive requirements to complete , it adds to the save game script limitations, so I prefer something that is cleaner and allows me to play longer before the script load in saves makes that particular character unplayable. How does it do this? The mod only does things one time it is just something that works for the beginning and allows up to complete the unbound quest without going through the vanilla beginning. What is boring and repetitive about it you mean the number of starts? With this mod I have time to wait for all that message stuff to scroll by and mods to load properly because my character is just standing there waiting for things to finish loading. I have time to setup everything properly. I have tried starting without it and many times my character will get stuck somewhere near the chopping block because some mod or another changes things so much that the vanilla start is no longer possible. I haven't actually counted how many mods I am using but I am using mods that shouldn't be used together and I don't get crashes or corrupt saves I will check how many I have but you must have a lot more than I do running.
shiagwen Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 You need a mod that enforces you to sleep (outside you get frozen) and eat and drink and buy clothes and that adds erosion to clothes and weapons. For hooking in cities you have to pay. Then you are really busy earning money all day long Additionally I want to introduce drug addiction, drugs are expensive. Healers shall cost something yes, nonmagic weapons and armor shall not drop at all, so you have to craft or buy them. i am looking Forward für your drug System. guffels skooma whore lacked some things i hope you will do : 1. no effect when taking drugs other than graphics : during drug duration she shall be a willingless fuck toy. 2. no dynamic effects when Level up the addiction : the need for drugs shall raise, she need to do harder things to satisfy her drug dealer. 3. blackout into the prison, slave auction. choice weather a. slave :use her for all dirty things or b. prostitute: clean her up and use her as profit.
zaira Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 ME prevents slave- and pimp prostitutes from getting Money at all, even in dungeons and loot. if you Play a free prostitute, ME or any prostitute mod, the Problem is, that the Money from selling items is too high to make Prostitution necessary. especially self crafted items can be sold in masses. so i have the idea to prevent pc selling at all. vendors sell their items to the pc, and the pc can buy them, but the pc can never sell anything. (no Second Hand Shops!) sadly i have no idea how ro make such a mod. additionally, the pc should pay a Trainer lessen for every perk point he allocates. this way Money is really needed and Prostitution is really necessary and not just some nice animations. This shall be possible with small modifications and it is a cool idea - I'll try to integrate it as an option fbartersellmax Zero works fine, thanks Zaira ! now the Gold comes from goldloot, questrewards and Prostitution - fine. BUT there is still no reason in skyrim to make Money at all ! Buy houses and horses is all you can spend your Money for, rarely a weapon or armor piece. In all classic games it has been the Trainers who suck the money. thats why i wrote the last sentence above. Realistic Needs and Diseases - then you need to buy food and rent a bed Frostfall - then you need to buy clothes I like the Idea that the player is enforced to earn money. Drugs would be the hardest solution - but I pretty much want that clothes and weapons gets wasted by time, horse could die during fights, bandits robs you and leave you alone naked, guards needs to be bribed to let you enter cities... Lets see how much I can realize - but I probably realize that in separate mods.
BigOnes69 Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 How does it do this? The mod only does things one time it is just something that works for the beginning and allows up to complete the unbound quest without going through the vanilla beginning. What is boring and repetitive about it you mean the number of starts? With this mod I have time to wait for all that message stuff to scroll by and mods to load properly because my character is just standing there waiting for things to finish loading. I have time to setup everything properly. I have tried starting without it and many times my character will get stuck somewhere near the chopping block because some mod or another changes things so much that the vanilla start is no longer possible. I haven't actually counted how many mods I am using but I am using mods that shouldn't be used together and I don't get crashes or corrupt saves I will check how many I have but you must have a lot more than I do running. I forgot the actual papyrus stress numbers that it puts on a saves but if you play with a lot of mods like I do the saves eventually exceed the numbers allowable by the game engine. There is a workaround for this but its only a matter of time before the save becomes unplayable. The boring part is you have the beginning quest modified and you have to complete this to continue the main quest. It is so repetitive it is boring. With an ME start and all quests completed in the fashion I was talking about the save stress is delayed and you start with a fresh playable Skyrim with all game quests completed, a story for the character falling from favor, and being taken as a slave or a whore.. Then people can make their own BDSM adventures with no compatibility issues from the original quests or Zaira at some point can create story lines to go along with the framework.
shiagwen Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 Why does console startquest mariaauction not work anymore?
Zor2k13 Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 How does it do this? The mod only does things one time it is just something that works for the beginning and allows up to complete the unbound quest without going through the vanilla beginning. What is boring and repetitive about it you mean the number of starts? With this mod I have time to wait for all that message stuff to scroll by and mods to load properly because my character is just standing there waiting for things to finish loading. I have time to setup everything properly. I have tried starting without it and many times my character will get stuck somewhere near the chopping block because some mod or another changes things so much that the vanilla start is no longer possible. I haven't actually counted how many mods I am using but I am using mods that shouldn't be used together and I don't get crashes or corrupt saves I will check how many I have but you must have a lot more than I do running. I forgot the actual papyrus stress numbers that it puts on a saves but if you play with a lot of mods like I do the saves eventually exceed the numbers allowable by the game engine. There is a workaround for this but its only a matter of time before the save becomes unplayable. The boring part is you have the beginning quest modified and you have to complete this to continue the main quest. It is so repetitive it is boring. With an ME start and all quests completed in the fashion I was talking about the save stress is delayed and you start with a fresh playable Skyrim with all game quests completed, a story for the character falling from favor, and being taken as a slave or a whore.. Then people can make their own BDSM adventures with no compatibility issues from the original quests or Zaira at some point can create story lines to go along with the framework. I would think having all quests completed would be kind of boring too though and the dragons would be buzzing around as well.
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