Immersive Hair Growth and Styling (YPS Devious & Immersive Fashion 2025-06-08)

[emily1673]

10 hours ago, thor3222 said:

Before this I was using "Let your hair down" to let me just swap between down and up hairs, but I wanted the growth and stuff, one thing I am missing from it is the immersive animation from it looked like you were actually fussing with your hair, which was a nice touch - is there any way to swap the animation to that?

(for reference) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/81444?tab=files

That would be a good idea. I looked at this mod, but so far didn't find an easy way to implement it. Maybe at a later time.

[ebbluminous]

Thank you for the swift update :)

[emily1673]

New version:

v. 6.6.1
- Made the old stockings system available again; it can be used alongside with the new nylon items. This will fix issues with stockings/nylons not showing up correctly.
- To increase readability, long notifications (>=90 characters) may now be truncated, or split into 2 parts, or played as messageboxes instead (MCM options)
- Player thought system:
-- Added lots of player thoughts
-- Fixed a problem with body hair papyrus values
-- new thought player condition available: $isoverencumbered
-- Complex conditions may now use the "or" operator "|"

 

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As for the nylons: Try not to mix up the old system ("stockings and pantyhouse pack") and the new system (equippable stockings). Thought the mod will do some checks, it is best is to only use one way.

To use the old system: Buy the "stockings and pantyhouse pack" from a vendor and click on it to wear/remove nylons.

Advantages of the new system: Instant change; more immersive (items that can be purchased); compatible with Wartimes.

Advantages of the older system: Higher compatibility, will work with LE and SE.

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Lots of new player thoughts have been added in this update, but they are mostly AI generated. Some of them might sound a bit weird. Feel free to improve them and to create still more and better thoughts for the thought database.

 

When using the "or" operator "|" for thought management, note that the “|” operator has higher priority than the “&” operator. For details check the updated FAQ.

[Balgin]

At the risk of scope creep.... since fashion features can cause addiction (long hair addiction, perm addiction, buzzed nape addiction and so on), I've always been under the impression that a character seems to miss an addicted feature after losing it (growing out a buzzed nape, getting long hair cut etc). Is that the case? Perhaps they just all add to one addiction score and aren't tracked individually when they're abandoned.

 

If they are pined for/longed for when lost, could there be thoughts for that?

 

"I used to love having the little neck hairs cut away. Maybe I should get my nape buzzed again.", "I miss the feeling of hair against my shoulders."

 

That kind of thing.

[sath81]

has any1 made a json for HDT-SMP Racemenu Hair or Wigs - Xing - Dint999 - Fuse00 - HHairstyles - KS - HG - SG - NO RING Version ?
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/43120

i mainly want the HDT vers of Sky161 >.>

Edited February 22, 2024 by sath81

[Wut1969]

It is probably something in my setup, but with 6.6.1 I experienced the following twice;

- Bathing using Bathing in Skyrim

- Shaving pubes using YPS

Result; PC unable to move afterwards but everything else -seems- fine

- Save and reload (sometimes this has worked for unstucking)

Result; SOS complains about 7 schlongs missing and PC is still stuck.

 

I -think the no.7 includes both 3 male schlongs and 4 female pubic hair styles.

 

I do have some idle animations installed, which sometimes start kicking in when shaving, so it might be related to those.

I have a workaround by doing the quick shaving sequences for body hair, so for me there is no showstopper. Just wanted to mention this in case @emily1673suddenly has a 'wait a minute, I might have changed something that could have this effect'.

 

Other than that; I love the thought system. I only use it very sparesly (2% of tick=9), but it does give me an incentive to have my pc using make up and stuff. Without the thought system neither my PC or me considers using makeup, so it kinda never happens. But with the thought system there is an incetive, so very happy with that.

 

 

[emily1673]

21 hours ago, Balgin said:

At the risk of scope creep.... since fashion features can cause addiction (long hair addiction, perm addiction, buzzed nape addiction and so on), I've always been under the impression that a character seems to miss an addicted feature after losing it (growing out a buzzed nape, getting long hair cut etc). Is that the case? Perhaps they just all add to one addiction score and aren't tracked individually when they're abandoned.

 

If they are pined for/longed for when lost, could there be thoughts for that?

 

"I used to love having the little neck hairs cut away. Maybe I should get my nape buzzed again.", "I miss the feeling of hair against my shoulders."

 

That kind of thing.

There is only one addiction score, indeed.

But it is a simple task to add some thought conditions like "ypsOnceHadBuzzedNape", which could then be used in the thought database. Might do it in the next update.

 

16 hours ago, sath81 said:

has any1 made a json for HDT-SMP Racemenu Hair or Wigs - Xing - Dint999 - Fuse00 - HHairstyles - KS - HG - SG - NO RING Version ?
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/43120

i mainly want the HDT vers of Sky161 >.>

You might try to do it yourself, at least for the hairstyles you want to use. It shouldn't be too hard, since you can rely on the already existing (non-HDT) hair configuration files.

We already had many forum members sharing their hair configuration files.😃

 

1 hour ago, Wut1969 said:

It is probably something in my setup, but with 6.6.1 I experienced the following twice;

- Bathing using Bathing in Skyrim

- Shaving pubes using YPS

Result; PC unable to move afterwards but everything else -seems- fine

- Save and reload (sometimes this has worked for unstucking)

Result; SOS complains about 7 schlongs missing and PC is still stuck.

 

 

Other than that; I love the thought system. I only use it very sparesly (2% of tick=9), but it does give me an incentive to have my pc using make up and stuff. Without the thought system neither my PC or me considers using makeup, so it kinda never happens. But with the thought system there is an incetive, so very happy with that.

Thank you for your feedback. Very unlikely that the issues you mention are caused by YPS. You might try to downgrade YPS to a previous version and see whether the problem persists.

[SquatsAreLife]

Voice files for v6.6.1 are up.

 

 

[emily1673]

Just uploaded a new "sound&texture" pack (LE only), because last time I forgot to add the facetints for the new YPS vendors. You will need this update only if you are affected by the "black face" bug.

SE users  experiencing the black face bug might use the "Face Discloration Fix" https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42441

 

5 hours ago, SquatsAreLife said:

Voice files for v6.6.1 are up.

Wonderful, this comes just at the right time! Thank you so much!

[Kruggar]

Does this mod work with 3BA? stockings, piercings, etc?

Edited February 26, 2024 by Kruggar

[emily1673]

14 hours ago, Kruggar said:

Does this mod work with 3BA? stockings, piercings, etc?

Should work. There are no piercing items in this mod, it's just a framework using piercings from other mods.

For the stockings, try the "old" system, if the equippable stockings don't work (see mod description).

[mxwinter]

I'm feeling stupid about a problem I've got, and cannot figure it out.  For some reason, I have been able to get all of this mod's features to work flawlessly except one:

Hair dyes.  for what ever reason I cannot get the hair dye system to work.  I have tried with both 6.6 and 6.6.1 with no luck.  I am playing on LE and don't know what could be blocking that.  I have tried playing both with and alt start mod (Skyrim Unbound Reborn) and without on a vanilla start.  Also tried to reinstall the mod and texture packs, to no avail.  Don't know what else to try.  Any suggestions welcome, I may be overlooking something obvious.  Thanks

 

[Balgin]

3 hours ago, emily1673 said:

Should work. There are no piercing items in this mod, it's just a framework using piercings from other mods.

For the stockings, try the "old" system, if the equippable stockings don't work (see mod description).

Since both systems are now operational again would it be possible to have a stocking option in the Dibella quest page of the mcm so we can choose which we want during the quest? We might not want an item (due to slot conflicts).

[Alis_999]

Hey @emily1673! Nice update! Thank you for your hard work!

But i have the little problem after update (i was on 6.5.4.1) to 6.6.1: Fashon level (Speechcraft Buff) do not changed after add/remove any fashion part. Not really a big problem for me because i had the maximal buff before update, but changed buff was convenient to understand when textures applies without any problem (because have restoration FX). Fashion addict is disabled but in the previous version buff works without problem.

Edited February 27, 2024 by Alis_999

[emily1673]

9 hours ago, Balgin said:

Since both systems are now operational again would it be possible to have a stocking option in the Dibella quest page of the mcm so we can choose which we want during the quest? We might not want an item (due to slot conflicts).

Currently you will get both the stockings item and the stockings package at the corresponding quest stage. You can then just choose what is better.

[Markwa2]

15 hours ago, mxwinter said:

I'm feeling stupid about a problem I've got, and cannot figure it out.  For some reason, I have been able to get all of this mod's features to work flawlessly except one:

Hair dyes.  for what ever reason I cannot get the hair dye system to work.  I have tried with both 6.6 and 6.6.1 with no luck.  I am playing on LE and don't know what could be blocking that.  I have tried playing both with and alt start mod (Skyrim Unbound Reborn) and without on a vanilla start.  Also tried to reinstall the mod and texture packs, to no avail.  Don't know what else to try.  Any suggestions welcome, I may be overlooking something obvious.  Thanks

 

If you use any translation, try to disable it and check how it works without it, I had the same problem only with eyeshadows (because I translated the colors themselves)

[mxwinter]

I got it working!  I might have been majorly overthinking it, as I was enabling the hair control right when the pop-up first appears.  I simply left it off until after I had the character creation done and was properly in game before turning it on fully.  🤦‍♂️ Seems to have fixed my issue, thanks for the suggestion tho Markwa2 I appreciate it.  Always have to play skyrim with this mod installed and it has been a while since I have played. 

[emily1673]

v. 6.6.2
- hair length choice windows during hair makeovers now only show available lengths
- added some hairstyles from "Tullius hair" and "Tullius hair 3" to the hair database
- Dibella quest: expanded the last dialogue in the quest (no new stages)
- Dibella quest: thoughts are now disabled during the transformation stages of the quest
- added more yps conditions to the player thought system, in particular the following
-- "ypsHasLongHair": bra-strap length and up (hair stage >=10)
-- "ypsHasShortHair": up to neck length (hair stage <= 7)
-- "ypsLoverMale","ypsLoverFemale": gender of current or recent lover (after breakup)
-- "ypsPiercingWornSlotXYZ" for all piercing slots
-- "ypsGeneral": Always true, for thoughts to be played without a specific condition.
-- lots of conditions referring to previous conditions that are no longer true (e.g. "ypsHadLongHair" = player previously had long hair, but no longer); see description for details
- fixed an issue with fingernail polish thoughts not showing up
- added more thoughts to the thought database (including a few thoughts for suppressed bimbos in BoS)

[Dns-synthesis]

i maybe doing somthing wrong but it seems to be that when i go to do a hair makeover choosing any option exept for the hair model option is not working for me. i get charged but nothing happens when i sit down i dont even get the notivication to sit down. and another thing is that my fashion level is somehow -11 and stuck that way a refresh buff/debuff option would be nice. and for some reason i cant get longer nails done for the questline (with a natural female char it works) thx in advance and good work love this mod

[emily1673]

8 hours ago, Dns-synthesis said:

i maybe doing somthing wrong but it seems to be that when i go to do a hair makeover choosing any option exept for the hair model option is not working for me. i get charged but nothing happens when i sit down i dont even get the notivication to sit down. and another thing is that my fashion level is somehow -11 and stuck that way a refresh buff/debuff option would be nice. and for some reason i cant get longer nails done for the questline (with a natural female char it works) thx in advance and good work love this mod

Not sure about the hair.

Fashion level: Does this happen during the late stage of the Dibella quest? If so, try applying nail oil + anti-ageing cream + lip balm.

Otherwise, I would recommend a clean re-installation of the mod.

Getting nails don: Is this the early or the late stage? In the late stage, the dialog option might be a bit difficult to see.

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, emily1673 said:

Not sure about the hair.

Fashion level: Does this happen during the late stage of the Dibella quest? If so, try applying nail oil + anti-ageing cream + lip balm.

Otherwise, I would recommend a clean re-installation of the mod.

Getting nails don: Is this the early or the late stage? In the late stage, the dialog option might be a bit difficult to see.

The -11 fashion level bug seems to occur when speaking to Yorcyn in Whiterun. It might be directly related to not refreshing hair dye (and not dyeing it again) or it could be down to a combination but, in my experience, the hair dye seems to be the main culprit. That was with the last 1 or 2 versions of the mod 'though. When characters have suffered this I find it possible to reapply all the addicted features to get the fashion level up to 1 below the requirement or bang on the target but the debuff doesn't go away.

 

Increasing bimbo level (via the bimbo curse from Bimbos of Skyrim) removes the debuff somewhere between all facial makeup being applied and hair growth & dye. Using the bimbo curse as a sort of debug option to see which fashion features might be causing the debuff has been oddly helpful (as opposed to just blindly guessing).

Edited February 28, 2024 by Balgin

[emily1673]

7 hours ago, Balgin said:

The -11 fashion level bug seems to occur when speaking to Yorcyn in Whiterun. It might be directly related to not refreshing hair dye (and not dyeing it again) or it could be down to a combination but, in my experience, the hair dye seems to be the main culprit. That was with the last 1 or 2 versions of the mod 'though. When characters have suffered this I find it possible to reapply all the addicted features to get the fashion level up to 1 below the requirement or bang on the target but the debuff doesn't go away.

 

Increasing bimbo level (via the bimbo curse from Bimbos of Skyrim) removes the debuff somewhere between all facial makeup being applied and hair growth & dye. Using the bimbo curse as a sort of debug option to see which fashion features might be causing the debuff has been oddly helpful (as opposed to just blindly guessing).

Possibly not a bug then, but intended.

The intended behavior is: During the quest stages when talking with Yorcyn, the player will get a more intensive form of fashion addiction, which means that they must wear nail polish (or nail oil) and eyeshadow (or anti-ageing cream) and lipstick (or lip balm). If only one of these conditions is not met, they suffer from the -11 fashion level debuff.

There should be pop-ups that communicate that clearly, but maybe they are not clear enough. Or the debuff is too harsh.

I might modify this, but the higher priority now is to get the quest finished at all.

[Balgin]

11 minutes ago, emily1673 said:

Possibly not a bug then, but intended.

The intended behavior is: During the quest stages when talking with Yorcyn, the player will get a more intensive form of fashion addiction, which means that they must wear nail polish (or nail oil) and eyeshadow (or anti-ageing cream) and lipstick (or lip balm). If only one of these conditions is not met, they suffer from the -11 fashion level debuff.

There should be pop-ups that communicate that clearly, but maybe they are not clear enough. Or the debuff is too harsh.

I might modify this, but the higher priority now is to get the quest finished at all.

I don't recall seeing any such pop ups ever. Perhaps they aren't displaying.

 

I have some suggestions in mind for after the quest is finished but I'm holding back for now so that the quest reaches a state of completion that's playable to the end without distractions slowing the development.

[Omnishade]

I got tired of NPCs commenting on my earrings so I disabled NPC comments in the MCM, but they are still commenting with "May I say something?". I usually ignore it but it gets very frustrating when it's a shopkeeper that does it every time you visit. It happens way too often. Is there anything that can be done about it, apart from removing my earrings?

 

Edit: It seems that you have to finish the dialogue when someone wants to comment on your piercing or whatever you have, otherwise it gets stuck in a loop. Not really a good design, but I don't know if there is a failsafe way to skip greetings.

Edited February 29, 2024 by RoninDog

[Hgpb]

On 2/27/2024 at 5:52 PM, Dns-synthesis said:

i maybe doing somthing wrong but it seems to be that when i go to do a hair makeover choosing any option exept for the hair model option is not working for me. i get charged but nothing happens when i sit down i dont even get the notivication to sit down. and another thing is that my fashion level is somehow -11 and stuck that way a refresh buff/debuff option would be nice. and for some reason i cant get longer nails done for the questline (with a natural female char it works) thx in advance and good work love this mod

 

The hair makeover problem happens to me with Special Edition with both natural female or transformed but on LE it works as intended. Obviously with the natural female I can style the hair how I want without the stylist. For the Dibella quest I just agree to the hair model option then fast travel back and forth from Riften to Markarth until the 10 days are done to attain control over the hair.