Naturalistic HDT

[Bazinga]

Beast HDT 0.6 is finished and ready to download.

I removed the legacy mesh support, one skeleton with 2 different skin meshes (different schlongs) means long and boring calculations using Nifscope. Something I'm not in the mood for right now. Or ever again, I think.

Just don't change the default meshes in the Creature Framework MCM and you should be fine. Except for werewolves if you want to use the SoS schlong instead of the Sexlab Nude Creatures one of course.

I also uploaded a modified version of the Convenient Horses - MNC compatibility patch that MadMansGun put in the MNC download section, so horses don't lose collisions when you use that patch.

[MadMansGun]

While I appreciate your decision to rescale foxes so they don't grow to wolf size during sex scenes this also causes clipping and other undesirable effects with many of the canine animations. Some of them really need to get filtered out for foxes imo.

 

the MoreNastyCrittersFactory.pex is already setup for that, it's just a matter of getting animations made.

[galgat]

   I know it is probably dumb question, but, in "v0.6 -> update to MNC 10.4, legacy mesh support dropped"  What does the Legacy mesh support dropped mean ?

 

I have been unable, or had a problems with Skeevers not functioning, and have not mover to MadMansGun version, and for now am sticking with MNC 9.3 fomod.

 

I love your stuff, but want to be sure I don't muck up my game, or install something that is not going to work, and has no purpose.

[Bazinga]

   I know it is probably dumb question, but, in "v0.6 -> update to MNC 10.4, legacy mesh support dropped"  What does the Legacy mesh support dropped mean ?

 

I have been unable, or had a problems with Skeevers not functioning, and have not mover to MadMansGun version, and for now am sticking with MNC 9.3 fomod.

 

I love your stuff, but want to be sure I don't muck up my game, or install something that is not going to work, and has no purpose.

If you are still using MNC 9.3 then I'm afraid that Beast HDT 0.5 and 0.6 are not compatible.

The last version that supports the old MNC is 0.3.

[inglorious_basterd]

Beast HDT 0.6 is finished and ready to download.

 

Thank you very much indeed.

What instrument are you going to learn, if I may ask?

Motörhead are short of a bass player I heard

 

[Bazinga]

 

Beast HDT 0.6 is finished and ready to download.

 

Thank you very much indeed.

What instrument are you going to learn, if I may ask?

Motörhead are short of a bass player I heard

 

That was a joke.

But if I ever feel the need to do something more than the few unenthusiastic years of recorder lessons that my parents forced me to take back in the day then bass sounds like a good choice. 

 

Nah, I just wanted to point out that I have less and less time to spare for this. Especially the job takes up more now.

And with my modding habbits it's difficult to simply reduce my commitment to modding. Because when I concentrate on this then I'm "in the zone", and afterwards I often regret wasting a complete weekend on something that doesn't even work. ^^

 

...

But I really have to do more sports again. Jogging at least. Damn.

[inglorious_basterd]

 

But I really have to do more sports again. Jogging at least. Damn.

 

Tell me about it, lol.

But jogging is so boring. And I'm too old for contact sports

 

[Tykune]

Will Beast HDT have support for female creature bits?

I feel like the mare sex from GenderHorses could definitely make use of HDT physics, but I was kinda looking for something a bit more broad that works for all female creature sexes (horses, dogs, skeever, sabercats, deer, wolves, goats, cows, charus, rabbits, chickens, etc).

[Bazinga]

Will Beast HDT have support for female creature bits?

 

I feel like the mare sex from GenderHorses could definitely make use of HDT physics, but I was kinda looking for something a bit more broad that works for all female creature sexes (horses, dogs, skeever, sabercats, deer, wolves, goats, cows, charus, rabbits, chickens, etc).

The Discovery Channel watcher inside me fully acknowledges the need for this. It would be more immersive that way.

The depraved sex maniac on the other hand has a really hard time to figure out what fetish this is supposed to serve... 

 

But honestly, I don't think I'll ever do this. No human females involved means I'm not interested. I'm selfish that way, sorry.

[MadMansGun]

The depraved sex maniac on the other hand has a really hard time to figure out what fetish this is supposed to serve... 

size play if it's a dragon fucking a horse , or unbirth/analvore if a dragon sits on the player  

[Bazinga]

 

 

[inglorious_basterd]

 

analvore

 

 

 

[dankmemesxd]

So installing this mod will somewhat "update" collisions from All in One HDT Animated Pussy? And if yes, downloading file "Naturalistic XMLs for HDT PE v3.57.7z" will update the collisions and downloading "Beast HDT v0.6.7z" will update collisions for creatures? I am kinda dense when I have 10000 files to download. Or to use this mod I have to uninstall AiO?

I know those questions are stupid, but HDT is like magic for me

[Bazinga]

So installing this mod will somewhat "update" collisions from All in One HDT Animated Pussy? And if yes, downloading file "Naturalistic XMLs for HDT PE v3.57.7z" will update the collisions and downloading "Beast HDT v0.6.7z" will update collisions for creatures? I am kinda dense when I have 10000 files to download. Or to use this mod I have to uninstall AiO?

I know those questions are stupid, but HDT is like magic for me

 

Naturalistic HDT replaces the HDT PE stuff inside AiO, yes. You don't need to disable anything from AiO though, just overwrite it with my stuff.

And it's not just collisions, but also HDT related movement settings/constraints. So the boobs will swing more naturally with this than with the files inside AiO (at least I hope so ). And the butt will too, as well as the belly if you choose to activate its HDT movement in the installer.

One of the HDT physics presets included in AiO, I think setup B, is nothing more than version 1.74 of my Naturalistic mod btw.

 

Beast HDT are just skeleton files and meshes from More Nasty Critters 10 (or MNC 9.3 in case of Beast HDT 0.3) with schlong collision boxes attached. Some skeleton files are from Realistic Ragdoll and the horse skeleton is from XPMSE though, so in this special case you have to let Beast HDT overwrite XPMSE (higher priority in mod load order) to get collisions.

[dankmemesxd]

Ok, thanks. I installed everything (neat installer, everything clear ). I saw the "saggy" option as soon as I loaded into the game. One thing I would add to the mod description is the list of supported creatures. You can see them by the meshes, but its always easier to see them here. But thats just a small "improvement".

 

Only one question. I have the feeling that the vagina is not "fully" open while having sex with a human. Is it dependant on schlong size (riekling had vagina more open than an elf) or I fucked something up?

[Tykune]

 

Will Beast HDT have support for female creature bits?

 

I feel like the mare sex from GenderHorses could definitely make use of HDT physics, but I was kinda looking for something a bit more broad that works for all female creature sexes (horses, dogs, skeever, sabercats, deer, wolves, goats, cows, charus, rabbits, chickens, etc).

The Discovery Channel watcher inside me fully acknowledges the need for this. It would be more immersive that way.

The depraved sex maniac on the other hand has a really hard time to figure out what fetish this is supposed to serve... 

 

But honestly, I don't think I'll ever do this. No human females involved means I'm not interested. I'm selfish that way, sorry.

 

The same fetish that male animals on female humans fall under

 

I am a little disheartened that it will not become a thing under this mod, but I will keep my hopes up that another will come along the way.

[indyskyho]

Revision Notes:

 

• v3.6: lots of fixes to the UUNP Special meshes and morph sliders, introducing alternative version of UUNP Special with a different vagina

 

 

Any comparison screens? Besides a small idle animation glitch I have everything is working well, before I risk that having some pics for comparison would be great, thanks!!

[Reesewow]

 

Revision Notes:

 

• v3.6: lots of fixes to the UUNP Special meshes and morph sliders, introducing alternative version of UUNP Special with a different vagina

 

 

Any comparison screens? Besides a small idle animation glitch I have everything is working well, before I risk that having some pics for comparison would be great, thanks!!

 

 

They are bodyslide files, so you can always just hit the preview button and swap between them for 3d comparisons without actually building and replacing your current body.  The most obvious difference is the inclusion of the Chinese UUNP body with a different vagina that is best seen animating to tell the difference.

 

Thanks for the surprise update btw Bazinga, while I don't really have side-to-side comparisons it *feels* like the UUNP special body with morphs looks better with inflation.

[inglorious_basterd]

@Bazinga

I admit I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but looking at the new base mesh for Chinese UUNP, named NBB - Chinese UUNP Special.nif, it seems you used only the vagina from the Chinese mod, but not the actual body. Like the sculpted nipples are missing.

Correct? Would you be so kind as to explain this to one as thick as myself? TIA!

[Bazinga]

@Bazinga

I admit I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but looking at the new base mesh for Chinese UUNP, named NBB - Chinese UUNP Special.nif, it seems you used only the vagina from the Chinese mod, but not the actual body. Like the sculpted nipples are missing.

Correct? Would you be so kind as to explain this to one as thick as myself? TIA!

Yes, you're right, I didn't add the sculpted nipples. Apart from this and the different vagina this body is in fact the same shape as the UUNP body coming with Bodyslide itself. The rest is absolutely identical.

But there's another big difference, weight paints. The Chinese UUNP body is painted for a few more obscure bones (rear thigh, breast01 etc), has the butt crack issue fixed (but I suspect that the fix is half-assed, there was one vertice in the mesh in the middle of the butt crack that still had weight 0, I corrected that) and some more weight paint changes from normal UUNP that I don't know the reason for. I left most of that untouched.

 

 

Regarding the nipples I decided against including that version of the body because it didn't come with its own preset. And without that all the clothing, jewelry, piercings and stuff that doesn't have the main body included in the mesh would clip through these puffy nipples.

And since I won't provide custom Bodyslide source meshes for all that stuff I didn't think including it would be such a good idea.

 

I also didn't include the pubic hair versions btw because I didn't like the hair color mismatch with the main hair. Hopefully Painted Lady Redone will take care of that.

 

 

@Reesewow:

Nah, I didn't change much for the pregnancy belly morph slider. The only thing I did there was increasing the labia mesh area a little so the main body mesh doesn't clip through it anymore.

 

The main fixes I did besides that were the half buried rear labia for most of the UUNP presets, a few missing weight paints on the deeper part of the labia and displaced vertices at the labia or the body mesh in that area for a few of these presets (Leito was a mess for the Chinese UUNP body, also minor issues on Venus  and I think Demonfet).

[27X]

The chuunp weighting is hot garbage fire, and they literally just "fixed" the buttshelf by literally reversing the paint strength in opposite direction, and the knees shoulders and hips are a simplified  mess (a mess without a convex daedric left hip, but still a mess)

 

It's a standing pose screenshot body and little else.

[741mmmm]

uhm.. are there any preview images for alternative version of uunp vagina? I'm quite confused if you forgot to add an option for uunp special body in fomod folder.

[27X]

uhm.. are there any preview images for alternative version of uunp vagina? I'm quite confused if you forgot to add an option for uunp special body in fomod folder.

 

You do realize you're on the internet right?

[Bazinga]

The next one who asks about preview images gets rotten tomatoes thrown at him/her. 

Just build that goddamn body and test it ingame. It's a matter of minutes. You don't even have to rebuild any armor, it's either normal UUNP Special or UUNP Special with a twist.

So just choose the "Naturalistic Bodybuilding" group and build the hands, feet and one of the 3 bodies in there (only one though, all three overwrite the same female body meshes).

Or don't build anything, CBBE bodies with 3D vagina work too ...  but only if you didn't switch from UNP to CBBE midgame. The havok physics system gets a bit broken if you try that. You're on your own regarding xml attachments if you use my mod with CBBE though.

 

And right, there is no more option for the UUNP Special body in the installer. That part got replaced by a text window which I really hope you read carefully.

[Reesewow]

 

@Reesewow:

Nah, I didn't change much for the pregnancy belly morph slider. The only thing I did there was increasing the labia mesh area a little so the main body mesh doesn't clip through it anymore.

 

The main fixes I did besides that were the half buried rear labia for most of the UUNP presets, a few missing weight paints on the deeper part of the labia and displaced vertices at the labia or the body mesh in that area for a few of these presets (Leito was a mess for the Chinese UUNP body, also minor issues on Venus  and I think Demonfet).

 

 

Probably placebo then, but your work on the finer details of the non-repaint body is still appreciated.  The butt crack issue was one of those "cannot unsee once seen" problems, and I think I had gotten around it by copying your repaints just for that area onto the regular special body.

 

At some point I might get adventurous and try my hand at transplanting the Chinese body vagina onto the regular UUNP special body as a experiment.  I do like the look of that specific feature, but everything else about that body and it's weight paints clash with my armors and inflation setup badly.