Hachirokio Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 This is a incredible mod Ceo. Congratulations. But I'm heaving a problem. When I do the undress codes, the animations play except, the clothes which stays on. The player and NPC continue fully clothed.... What key combo did you use I can't get them to play
CEO 0S Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 Thanks everyone for the nice response and feedback as well as helping me test! Much appreciated. I'll update the version in a little bit tonight to try to fix most of these issues. Also I think there's confusion about the stripping in terms of Skyrim equipment slots and ESG I'm going to write a short thing to help figure it out. Hey Ceo, I did encounter a few bugs though. I have a breton and she's often not aligned properly, with her hand belong or in the schlong. I've also had a CTD a couple of times when I was jumping from position to position. The schlong scaling also doesn't seem to work as well as it used to. Scaling isn't in but for official launch and possibly in the next day or two alpha It will be. I'm going through each Race / Gender / and Roll combination and manually figuring out the correct scale to set them at. I'm making progress but not complete. This still will not effect custom followers or races but for popular race mods I can automate those too. To get custom followers through correctly if they are unusual scales SexDentity will be able to be applied in the future to record the correct scale. I'll provide tools in SexDentity to figure this out. The CTD's I can't create but it's most likely an audio issue, information on this from further crashes on this will help so I can start figure out the cause. I've found an issue with schlong scaling in the alpha and will have it fixed (hopefully) in the version tonight. A question about the stripping... Is there a way to strip only a selected piece of clothing? For example the loincloth of the sub. I like to wear boots and stockings during sex. If I strip the sub, it strips the boots and then the stockings first. And another question... You're showing some positions in post 13 of this thread (the spoiler). Isn't it enabled? I can't get the sub to this positions, for example the female minor+1 position or the female minor +3. There is a way to strip specific pieces but I'm going to write a short guide on how to get it all working tonight in just a little bit, I'll cover that there. A few like the hunched over jerk and lean back sit are not in atm, I pulled them for 1.0 launch as I wasn't happy with them yet. I haven't got around to finish them yet so they are disabled. For 1.07 I will take a break from Papyrus and dress up and focus on more kissing and sex bringing in the missing positions and getting cow girl in as well. If you want to try something new you can enable "Development Scenes" in the MCM and push Dom Alt Up from the standing position where the sub is facing away but both actors are standings. There's no transitions but you can see a close to finish on a new position (1 speed) I have this bug in FNIS What is this ? ERROR(9): Index went beyond the boundaries of the table I install Alpha 1.06, before it was OK. This means you need FNIS 5.5. Basically a new feature that was added in FNIS recently is animation events however pre 5.5 it could only hold 100. There are only a few mods that have had time to take advantage of the feature but I believe the sex lab undressing mod registers 90ish events. It's just enough to get by but if you use mine which ads 5 events you go over the limit. FNIS 5.5 increases the limit to 999 I believe. I added 2 events this time so most likely that put you over. i dont know what im doing wrong i can only get the blow job to work. other then that they just asume positions but when i press the up arrow they dont move they just sit in the assumed position i can only get the blow job to work. what am i doing wrong? My first guess is you need to speed the scene up. They have a speed 1 which is idle just breathing, speeding up starts the thrusting etc. It's Num 0 + UP or Down by default for EZ mode or for advanced mode it's Left or Right shift (Depending on who is doing the action) plus UP or DOWN. This is a incredible mod Ceo. Congratulations. But I'm heaving a problem. When I do the undress codes, the animations play except, the clothes which stays on. The player and NPC continue fully clothed.... What key combo did you use I can't get them to play Looks like after redressing only boots seem to be put back on with its animation nothing else I'll write a short guide on the stripping and ESG in just a moment I think it will clear this up.
captainzoltar Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Although the previews look totally amazing, wouldn't it be possible to collaborate with ashal to try to integrate those functions in sexlab instead of developing a fully independant framework? There has been so much work put into sexlab that it's probably not a good thing to split the community with different frameworks. Keep up the good work anyway : ) I hate to pretty much say the same thing, but yeah I think so too. I believe I tried this before with SL and some SL mods didn't work (unless there was an update after initial release). I totally understand that 0sex is it's own thing and thats cool, but if this could work alongside SL even as its own framework that would be a second dream come true. It looks absolutely phenomenal, and this is a "holy shit" kind of mod. While even seeing this in existence is a huge accomplishment in itself and is beyond what I could ever mod. fucking awesome work man.
CEO 0S Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 ESG Tutorial PDF I've attached a tutorial PDF to this post and will attach it to the alpha post as well explaining how ESG works. I don't mean to be didactic if you already know a majority of the information there but it's intended to be something a newcomer to Skyrim modding can use as well so it has a section just on talking about what equipment slots are and how they work. It then covers figuring out your equipment slots and then setting up ESGs. At the end it has a short section on how sequential and specific stripping work. Sorry it's a little crude, I typed it up quick tonight to try to help people out in using ESG and understanding it. This will help understand issues related to not enough clothing being put back on or taken off. ESG has to be setup for it to work. It is a little complex to get started in and it will function better on a Skyrim that is unified in equipment slots. It will shine on a very controlled Skyrim but I believe it can still have decent effects even if equipment slots are not unified and under control in your game. ------------------------------- These will not be permanent as I'm standardizing them in the next alpha version to have the same key do the same slot everytime. For now they are just random all over the place, here they are in the meantime if you want to try: For dom undressing the sub: Dom Undress + 1 = Helmet Dom Undress + 2 = Cape Dom Undress + 3 = Pants Dom Undress + 4 = LowInt Dom Undress + 5 = HiInt Dom Undress + 6 = Cuirass Dom Undress + 7 = Stockings Dom Undress + 8 = Boots Dom Undress + 9 (This one is broke, puts you in an endless loop) = MidMisc" For sub undressing the dom: Sub Undress + 1 = Helmet Sub Undress +4 = LowInt Sub Undress +5 = Cape" Sub Undress +6 = Cuirass" Sub Undress +7 = Pants"
DorkDiva Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 You must have a fresh mind, everything you put into this is quite brilliant to put it mildly, such a genius creation, and it is not even completed. You are keeping my Skyrim alive my friend.
Guest OHITSMEGACRUNCH Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Having a strange bug with the new update, none of the animations have any expressions now, even the old ones (actors don't close their eyes now during kissing animations). Even weirder, if I press the end simulation key (np.) won't stop anything, makes the sub actor move vertically up slightly, and won't accept any new commands, forcing me to reboot the game. Reinstalled and done FNIS several times and the problem persists. Prior to this I've had no problems with this mod.
CEO 0S Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 I hate to pretty much say the same thing, but yeah I think so too. I believe I tried this before with SL and some SL mods didn't work (unless there was an update after initial release). I totally understand that 0sex is it's own thing and thats cool, but if this could work alongside SL even as its own framework that would be a second dream come true. It looks absolutely phenomenal, and this is a "holy shit" kind of mod. While even seeing this in existence is a huge accomplishment in itself and is beyond what I could ever mod. fucking awesome work man. Thank you for the very nice comments! I google sometimes to see what people are saying and there's good and bad a a lot of negative feedback due to the control structure of my mod and other things, "autistic sex mod" is what I see the most so there's that for what it is worth. I don't think it's for everyone and that it's existence makes some people upset or angry and it wouldn't be right to force it on people that are perfectly happy with a system like SexLab that is masterfully made and has so many great plugins and content already. SexLab is perfect from a narrative standpoint and doesn't require heavy documentation to know how to use. I'm totally open for any collaboration in terms of plugins but I've had almost no interest expressed in it, it seems 0Sex doesn't leave much room for story telling or development outside of my own endeavours. The player is the story teller here, a story can't really be enforced through it, mostly it can only be handed to the player and they decide. Technically you can script a full 0Sex scene now that the player can't control from an outside mod but it's a bit elaborate and might defeat the purpose. It might just be dwindling interest in Skyrim although I don't think there's a better game to hijack and set up virtual sex in then Skyrim and I don't think there will be a better one for a long time. All the time and amazing advancements the modding community has made turned Skyrim into something no developer can make, it's not really about new titles at this point, it's about the game the community has made which no game studio can stand up to. I think 0Sex will just be a little hobby of mine that people are welcome to try if they want, that being said it's been great since I decided to release due to how supportive the community has been, a very rewarding and nice experience for me and thank you everyone for that! ---------------------------------------------- 0Sex doesn't conflict with SexLab in it's core however any mod could technically interfere with 0Sex be it a sexlab plugin or just something else. My thoughts on the subject, if interested: When 0Sex isn't happening the one thing that exists in your game is the MCM menu which does nothing except bind num0 (or what you set your start key too) so that's the only potential problem which can be rebound. 0Sex is basically a poser mod only instead of rings it uses hot keys, you can think of triggering 0Sex as equipping the ring and selecting an option but once triggered 0Sex registers a bunch of hotkeys to navigate animated poses instead of having ring menus. The seamless effect is just a trick of some animations forcing another one to play instead of being permanent and designing the animations to share start and end frames to make them smoothly connect. When the spell ends 0Sex is gone from your game except for the MCM menu and since it's a spell it unregisters all key binds. Modules for SexLab could cause a problem for example if you use the mod that makes npcs randomly try to have sex with you. If you're having 0Sex and a mod tries to have sexlab sex with you at the same time, both are attempting to lock your characters position so they will bounce back and forth between binding coordinates. As long as a mod isn't trying to initiate sex while 0Sex is happening it's fine. I heard arousal does things to the male genitals but I'm not sure of the extent and there's a fix that's been found I believe.
CEO 0S Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 Having a strange bug with the new update, none of the animations have any expressions now, even the old ones (actors don't close their eyes now during kissing animations). Even weirder, if I press the end simulation key (np.) won't stop anything, makes the sub actor move vertically up slightly, and won't accept any new commands, forcing me to reboot the game. Reinstalled and done FNIS several times and the problem persists. Prior to this I've had no problems with this mod. Hi OHITSMEGACRUNCH, It's most likely due to not having a clean save. I'm sorry for the inconvenience but as long as 0Sex is in beta it will be undergoing heavy shifts to it's core and will need a fresh start. This will not be for much longer. If you've already gone deep in a save with 0Sex you might be able to repair it by disabling the esp loading your save without 0SACT,esp turned on waiting a minute or two zoning a couple times then saving again. Log out and activate the new esp. (Might work, you have to be in game long enough for the MCM to refresh itself without my mod active.) I think most likely you have the mcm persisting from a previous script causing 0Sex to not refresh the new version. If possible and if you have time can you try from a save pre 0Sex entirely and see if the problem still occurs?
GLSDesign Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Thanks for the ESG manual... You're great... So it was, as I said, my own stupidity. And I will test the standing position. I'm curious. The redress function incl. animations works well. The NPC turns around, walks a few meters away and then he/she redresses him/herself. Well done... Greetings Ly
romualda5 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 This means it not work witch Fnis behavior v.60. But earlier version work. I stay with older version of your fantastic work. Thanks for explanation.
GLSDesign Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Houston I have a problem... My ESG settings doesn't work... I see the titles of the slotgroups, but I see nothing more and can't select anything... My Skyrim is running with german language. Could that be the reason why the ESG settinge doesn't work? The undress keys with the default slot settings working fine. The standing position from behind works well... Greetings Ly
Guest Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Having a strange bug with the new update, none of the animations have any expressions now, even the old ones (actors don't close their eyes now during kissing animations). Even weirder, if I press the end simulation key (np.) won't stop anything, makes the sub actor move vertically up slightly, and won't accept any new commands, forcing me to reboot the game. Reinstalled and done FNIS several times and the problem persists. Prior to this I've had no problems with this mod. Hi OHITSMEGACRUNCH, It's most likely due to not having a clean save. I'm sorry for the inconvenience but as long as 0Sex is in beta it will be undergoing heavy shifts to it's core and will need a fresh start. This will not be for much longer. If you've already gone deep in a save with 0Sex you might be able to repair it by disabling the esp loading your save without 0SACT,esp turned on waiting a minute or two zoning a couple times then saving again. Log out and activate the new esp. (Might work, you have to be in game long enough for the MCM to refresh itself without my mod active.) I think most likely you have the mcm persisting from a previous script causing 0Sex to not refresh the new version. If possible and if you have time can you try from a save pre 0Sex entirely and see if the problem still occurs? Had the same issue, did the clean save file steps in coc qasmoke(im sure there are other places that work too) and fixed everything but the blow job animation. All emotions work but she wont open her mouth for the blow job part lol
Carida Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Greetings! I've used your mod since it came out, oh I wanted to mention that I use it along Sexlab with absolutely no problems, they don't really interfere with each other with the exception with the SOS thing with arousal and even than that's more of an SOS thing, either way, I've been testing the latest alpha and I just wanted to mention (though I know you are still working on it) the alignment is still off for me, sometimes she's much much shorter than him and at other times she's kinda taller than him. This is a redguard+nord set up, as I only play redguards. The undressing animations are rather good, though I know you've said they are crude, but I think they are really delightful, I did have one issue though. During the missionary orgasm, they froze after that and nothing would move them again. Not even the unlock button. Also I no longer get the "UNLOCK" message in the upper left corner of the screen after unlocking the characters. So far those are the only issues that I have experienced. Personally I rather like Osex for a sweet lovemaking between my character and her loved one kind of thing.. or at least that's how I think about it. As to the sounds, since I know you are still working on it but I was wondering if little soft mewling cries or moans might be able to added for the female and perhaps for the male expression something of intense concentration of somewhat a bit of arrogance.. I thought that might be interesting. Apologies for this block of text and thank you again for the mod -C
Eikichi Onizuka Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 ALPHA 1.06 This is an alpha and a fairly crude one at that, so unless you really want to help me test it or don't mind bugs it might be best to wait until the official version. It will need a clean save, and definitely don't use it in something permanent as it is a total rebuild of my script so it could very likely have some issues. Sorry for the crude redressing animation and holes. The Undress Redress section requires 21 paired animations and 21 solo animations be complete, not including transitions and flavor scenes and they average around 10 seconds so it's a big undertaking. I'm close and it shouldn't take much longer but I'm going to need a break from dress up animations for a while after this! Thank you for the interest in my mod and helping me test it if you do, it's much appreciated! Hopefully 1.06 goes smooth because if it's stable, what's left is Fleshing out SexDentity leaving only SexAI, SexUI as the missing elements outside of more animations. ESG Tutorial PDF I've attached a tutorial PDF to this post and will attach it to the alpha post as well explaining how ESG works. I don't mean to be didactic if you already know a majority of the information there but it's intended to be something a newcomer to Skyrim modding can use as well so it has a section just on talking about what equipment slots are and how they work. It then covers figuring out your equipment slots and then setting up ESGs. At the end it has a short section on how sequential and specific stripping work. Sorry it's a little crude, I typed it up quick tonight to try to help people out in using ESG and understanding it. This will help understand issues related to not enough clothing being put back on or taken off. ESG has to be setup for it to work. It is a little complex to get started in and it will function better on a Skyrim that is unified in equipment slots. It will shine on a very controlled Skyrim but I believe it can still have decent effects even if equipment slots are not unified and under control in your game. ------------------------------- These will not be permanent as I'm standardizing them in the next alpha version to have the same key do the same slot everytime. For now they are just random all over the place, here they are in the meantime if you want to try: For dom undressing the sub: Dom Undress + 1 = Helmet Dom Undress + 2 = Cape Dom Undress + 3 = Pants Dom Undress + 4 = LowInt Dom Undress + 5 = HiInt Dom Undress + 6 = Cuirass Dom Undress + 7 = Stockings Dom Undress + 8 = Boots Dom Undress + 9 (This one is broke, puts you in an endless loop) = MidMisc" For sub undressing the dom: Sub Undress + 1 = Helmet Sub Undress +4 = LowInt Sub Undress +5 = Cape" Sub Undress +6 = Cuirass" Sub Undress +7 = Pants" Tonight we begin with Testing.. let's do it!
Guest Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Okay so this looks great I really like the animations that you've shown at least, although the orgasms in the GIFS looked a little odd. I would like to use this, however adult mods are generally meant to be used with Sexlab, so unless there are going to be lots of new mods created to support this, I don't know if this is going to be practical for me to use. Edit: I'm aware that people are saying this can be used alongside Sexlab, however it sounds like what you could do with this as a standalone seems somewhat limited. And if there are other mods that support this framework please let me know I'd be interested to see them.
CEO 0S Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 Houston I have a problem... My ESG settings doesn't work... I see the titles of the slotgroups, but I see nothing more and can't select anything... Greetings Ly Hi GLS, Strange is this everytime or just sometimes? I would say it's a clean save thing but you've gotten the other new core things to work so I don't think it's that. You could try deleting the 0SACT_German translation file and see although the input box would still be there to the right even if there's a problem. Trying to think what it could be. First step would be to know if they never have shown up for you at all from any kind of save. Thanks GLS!
Guest toymachine Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Greetings! I've used your mod since it came out, oh I wanted to mention that I use it along Sexlab with absolutely no problems, they don't really interfere with each other with the exception with the SOS thing with arousal and even than that's more of an SOS thing, either way, I've been testing the latest alpha and I just wanted to mention (though I know you are still working on it) the alignment is still off for me, sometimes she's much much shorter than him and at other times she's kinda taller than him. This is a redguard+nord set up, as I only play redguards. The undressing animations are rather good, though I know you've said they are crude, but I think they are really delightful, I did have one issue though. During the missionary orgasm, they froze after that and nothing would move them again. Not even the unlock button. Also I no longer get the "UNLOCK" message in the upper left corner of the screen after unlocking the characters. So far those are the only issues that I have experienced. Personally I rather like Osex for a sweet lovemaking between my character and her loved one kind of thing.. or at least that's how I think about it. As to the sounds, since I know you are still working on it but I was wondering if little soft mewling cries or moans might be able to added for the female and perhaps for the male expression something of intense concentration of somewhat a bit of arrogance.. I thought that might be interesting. Apologies for this block of text and thank you again for the mod -C I believe SL has an option in MCM for SOS erection. I believe the same issue was brought up some pages back.
Skybeef Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 I'm loving the new noises and expressions; it makes it very immersive. Can't wait for the full release! (And for 1.07 for cowgirl and such). Dumb question (as I think there's only the missionary jerk one in this far) but is there any other orgasm options for the dom? And is there any in for the sub? Superb work all around on this CEO. Looking forward to much more.
CEO 0S Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 V2 is up in the original Alpha post, V2 Fixes: -Substantially reduced papyrus to make the body impact sound happen so it should be much more responsive at higher speeds and performance should increase overall. -EZ mode works for undressing now (It's Num1 + Dpad Left or Dpad Right) to replicate ALT + UNDRESS effect. -CockScaling - Found a problem it should be 100% working and accurate now. -Mouth works again for blowjobx -Added in placeholders for all the "Stripping the sub" scenes, they use an incomplete animation as a placeholder for all the Misc ESGs + Gloves but the system should be fully testable now. (The redressing has some holes still so they might not get fully redressed depending on ESG set up.) -Specific Undress keys have been standardized (In the PDF) ----------------- I think this one should fix most of the problems. Back to animating now. I'll patch more if I can make significant fixes to anything that comes up in the alpha and there might be one more Alpha test for body scaling fixes before official. Like the expressions! I'm loving the new noises and expressions; it makes it very immersive. Can't wait for the full release! (And for 1.07 for cowgirl and such).Dumb question (as I think there's only the missionary jerk one in this far) but is there any other orgasm options for the dom? And is there any in for the sub?Superb work all around on this CEO. Looking forward to much more. Thanks for the nice comments! Yea just a single orgasm atm as a proof of concept. I'll do an overhaul at some point like I'm doing for the stripping now. There is quite a lot to do for orgasms so so there is logistic time issues to it. The female specially I'm delaying because I feel to show the female orgasm through animation requires a lot more animation assets then the male and I'll need to have the arousal and orgasm calculations finalized to be able to show a female orgasm accurately in a believable way. I'll take it on soon and at least try to get it appearing in more places and for both genders, not for 1.07 but soon.
Carida Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 -C I believe SL has an option in MCM for SOS erection. I believe the same issue was brought up some pages back. Yes... I"m aware, I'm the one who mentioned it, and its in aroused as I stated before. My point was as I stated in the post was that sexlab and Osex are completely compatible that I have noticed, since with my own set up I've seen no interference. -C
Guest toymachine Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Oh okay. My bad. Wasn't sure who posted it.
Skybeef Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Would it be advisable to make a clean save if going from 1.06v1 to v2?
CEO 0S Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 Would it be advisable to make a clean save if going from 1.06v1 to v2? I can't 100% remember but I don't think I touched the MCM so just reinstalling should be fine and it shouldn't matter. If weird things are happening though I would try a clean save.
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