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[Humor] This should end the lore debate.


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There's always been heated debates as to whether skimpy armor has its place in any TES game or not, or considered lore-friendly or not, but then I remembered the box art of the very first Elder Scrolls game:

 

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If it's on the box art, then the Moebius-tribute armor must be lore-friendly. :lol:

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And what if there was a dragon break and there never was a half naked women, but a full clothed one which all younger Elder Scrolls games came from.

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http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Break

 

If one TES universe saw use of skimpy armors and parallel universe only used full armors then in the end both are 'lore', such is the effect of the Dragon Break.

 

At least that is what I'm concluding when I read this.

 

A Dragon Break, sometimes referred to as an un-time,is a temporal phenomenon that involves a splitting of the natural timeline which results in branching parallel realities where the same events occur differently, or not at all. This results in a return to the non-linear timeline of the Dawn Era. At the end of a Dragon Break, the timeline reconnects making all possibilities and outcomes truth, though contradictory to each other. The "Dragon" that is mentioned is a reference to Akatosh, the God of Time.

 

 

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There's always been heated debates as to whether skimpy armor has its place in any TES game or not, or considered lore-friendly or not, but then I remembered the box art of the very first Elder Scrolls game:

 

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If it's on the box art, then the Moebius-tribute armor must be lore-friendly. :lol:

 

Bethesda hinted in 1994 to make skimpy armor mods in 2009 Skyrim..and beyond they visioned this 15 years before Skyrim :D

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If a lore has a built in mcguffin-deus ex machina to justify any and everything is that lore worth preserving at all? :sleepy:

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Shit, there's more than just the Arena cover art to support skimpy armors in TES.

 

Take, for example, some of the bras and dresses on this headache-inducingly blue sprite sheet ripped right from vanilla Daggerfall.

 

Further, some of Skyrim's fur armors are hardly modest, and the Ancient Nord armor is revealing in a Star Trek TOS' William Weir Theiss costume design sort of way.

 

In essence, anybody who says skimpy is inherently lore-breaking is stupid. That said, there's definitely an argument to be had about the style of said skimpy armor and how effective it should be relative to other armors - I can't speak for Daggerfall, but in Skyrim, skimpy is largely trash tier, except Ancient Nord, which is still overshadowed by Dragonbone and Daedric. Then again, Morrowind didn't have any, and Morrowind has been the golden rod against which all TES since have been measured, so I guess technically that means Skyrim failed in this regard where Oblivion, hilariously, succeeded?

 

Right, sorry, humor thread. I'll see myself out.

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I say this because some people tend to take the whole game so seriously even the most trivial details are nitpicked, wasting time on them when they should be playing and modding instead.

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People who vehemently argue the validity of lore are irksome, on BOTH sides. When the 'lore-friendly' people attack skimpy armor or anime mods, they look like jackasses, but when the fans of skimpy armor and anime mods bash on non-revealing armor, they're right??? It doesn't work that way.

 

"In a single player moddable game lore is whatever you make it to be." -- VictoriaG

 

You have that quoted, so what is the point of arguing when it doesn't matter? Besides, arguments of skimpy armor turn into this, and that thread showed how immature both sides can be.

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People who vehemently argue the validity of lore are irksome, on BOTH sides. When the 'lore-friendly' people attack skimpy armor or anime mods, they look like jackasses, but when the fans of skimpy armor and anime mods bash on non-revealing armor, they're right??? It doesn't work that way.

 

"In a single player moddable game lore is whatever you make it to be." -- VictoriaG

 

You have that quoted, so what is the point of arguing when it doesn't matter? Besides, arguments of skimpy armor turn into this, and that thread showed how immature both sides can be.

 

I can have my character wear skimpy or covered -- what matters most for me is arrow meets bandit.

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I'm not sure how many people are arguing against skimpy armors in TES, since they've obviously been in since the beginning. I think the main point is arguing against the effectiveness of said armors, which is definitely a valid point. And as Jexsam pointed out, all the skimpy stuff in TES has trash stats, so all's good there.

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Arguing about the effectiveness of armor in a fantasy game is pointless.  Yes, based on real world facts, full plate armor provides better protection in a all-out battle scenario, but what about dragon attacks?  Were there researchers coaxing a test subject to put on plate armor and stand behind a rocket thruster?

Don't forget that in Skyrim, all armors are bouyant thus allowing you to swim with ease, upgrading armor does not add additional weight, and wearing the heavier armors does not inhibit you from jumping around like a gymnast.

 

If it's immersion you want then use full armors for face-to-face melee battles whereas lighter/skimpy armors are for ranged attacks and hit-n-evade type tactics.

 

 

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People who vehemently argue the validity of lore are irksome, on BOTH sides. When the 'lore-friendly' people attack skimpy armor or anime mods, they look like jackasses, but when the fans of skimpy armor and anime mods bash on non-revealing armor, they're right??? It doesn't work that way.

 

"In a single player moddable game lore is whatever you make it to be." -- VictoriaG

 

You have that quoted, so what is the point of arguing when it doesn't matter? Besides, arguments of skimpy armor turn into this, and that thread showed how immature both sides can be.

 

I can have my character wear skimpy or covered -- what matters most for me is arrow meets bandit.

 

True, but you also don't have any more right to badmouth people who don't like skimpy armor, then the right they have to badmouth you. My point was making another post of how your right and they're wrong eventually becomes mud-slinging, and shows that NEITHER  side are capable of accepting that other people have the right to play a game a different way then you do. Not saying your bashing on non-skimpy etc, but when threads pop up like this, that's what it turns into. I like revealing and sexy outfits, but I don't like people who insist on arguing one way or the other about a single-player game, and how it should be played. Which this thread will inadvertently lead to, regardless of you claiming it to be 'humor'.

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People who vehemently argue the validity of lore are irksome, on BOTH sides. When the 'lore-friendly' people attack skimpy armor or anime mods, they look like jackasses, but when the fans of skimpy armor and anime mods bash on non-revealing armor, they're right??? It doesn't work that way.

 

"In a single player moddable game lore is whatever you make it to be." -- VictoriaG

 

You have that quoted, so what is the point of arguing when it doesn't matter? Besides, arguments of skimpy armor turn into this, and that thread showed how immature both sides can be.

 

I can have my character wear skimpy or covered -- what matters most for me is arrow meets bandit.

 

True, but you also don't have any more right to badmouth people who don't like skimpy armor, then the right they have to badmouth you. My point was making another post of how your right and they're wrong eventually becomes mud-slinging, and shows that NEITHER  side are capable of accepting that other people have the right to play a game a different way then you do. Not saying your bashing on non-skimpy etc, but when threads pop up like this, that's what it turns into. I like revealing and sexy outfits, but I don't like people who insist on arguing one way or the other about a single-player game, and how it should be played. Which this thread will inadvertently lead to, regardless of you claiming it to be 'humor'.

 

 

Hey, fuck, you're sounding so goddamn serious. Do you think I was bashing on those who don't like skimpy? The point is that some people tend to take the damn game too seriously. Including you.

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People who vehemently argue the validity of lore are irksome, on BOTH sides. When the 'lore-friendly' people attack skimpy armor or anime mods, they look like jackasses, but when the fans of skimpy armor and anime mods bash on non-revealing armor, they're right??? It doesn't work that way.

 

"In a single player moddable game lore is whatever you make it to be." -- VictoriaG

 

You have that quoted, so what is the point of arguing when it doesn't matter? Besides, arguments of skimpy armor turn into this, and that thread showed how immature both sides can be.

 

I can have my character wear skimpy or covered -- what matters most for me is arrow meets bandit.

 

True, but you also don't have any more right to badmouth people who don't like skimpy armor, then the right they have to badmouth you. My point was making another post of how your right and they're wrong eventually becomes mud-slinging, and shows that NEITHER  side are capable of accepting that other people have the right to play a game a different way then you do. Not saying your bashing on non-skimpy etc, but when threads pop up like this, that's what it turns into. I like revealing and sexy outfits, but I don't like people who insist on arguing one way or the other about a single-player game, and how it should be played. Which this thread will inadvertently lead to, regardless of you claiming it to be 'humor'.

 

 

Hey, fuck, you're sounding so goddamn serious. Do you think I was bashing on those who don't like skimpy? The point is that some people tend to take the damn game too seriously. Including you.

 

I don't take the game seriously, I just think threads like this are childish, and don't need to be repeated over and again (I've seen similar threads derail into mud-slinging and "perverts use those armor" comments all to often, which is irksome) My point was, you can have your skimpy armor, and let the people who don't like it have what they like without poking fun at the way they play, which, for right or wrong, this thread is doing. Lastly, swearing doesn't really get your point across, it just makes you seem angry, which leads me to believe your intent may have been to flame one side of that foolish argument; if this upsets you, understand that I believe that people can live very different lives, and don't have the right to criticize one another for their choices.

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:) yeah since Dragon Breaks exist pretty much anything lore unfriendly can be made lore friendly even UFOs.

 

Lol make Dragon Breaks makes Commander Shepard being in the world of Elder Scrolls lore-friendly.

 

O_O

 

First time I heard about dragon Breaks i was like..... wth? It's like Schrodinger's cat like millions times worse.

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Schrodinger's Cat is a bullshit mindfuck exercise anyway! :lol: Anyone with any sense knows the cat can't be both dead and alive simultaneously. Only a complete dipshit wouldn't realize that. ;)

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An arsehole who wants a "superstate cat"? I mean that sounds so awesome who doesn't want one.

All the awesomeness of having a cat, plus all the awesomeness of not having a cat. Win/win.

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