SexLab Eager NPCs

[chajapa]

I ran through a quest I had never done before in Markarth. The Dwemer excavation and museum something or other

 

Got to the end of the excavation and my follower started unbuckling her armor. Woo-hoo!

 

HOWEVER.... there was still one Dwarven Sphere left. I could SEE it. I thought it was mighty considerate of the Dwarven Sphere to just stand there and watch us have sex. He waited until we were done to attack us.  We killed him. 

 

I THINK.... it's not SLEN at all, but there seems to be something in Skyrim itself that sometimes marks an area cleared before it's COMPLETELY cleared, or doesn't mark it cleared when it IS actually cleared. Work through a dungeon.... I think it's cleared. Not showing as cleared. Keep searching for some bad guy I must have missed. Some secret passage or something..... finally just say, "Ah, screw it. I'll come back another time."

 

Leave the dungeon. I hear armor hitting the ground as my follower prepares to jump my bone. So that dungeon didn't get marked cleared until I left the dungeon. 

 

So... I'm pretty convinced that it isn't an issue with SLEN.

SLEN is reacting to that cleared flag being set. It's not doing the actual setting of the flag.

[Guest]

I ran through a quest I had never done before in Markarth. The Dwemer excavation and museum something or other

 

Got to the end of the excavation and my follower started unbuckling her armor. Woo-hoo!

 

HOWEVER.... there was still one Dwarven Sphere left. I could SEE it. I thought it was mighty considerate of the Dwarven Sphere to just stand there and watch us have sex. He waited until we were done to attack us.  We killed him. 

 

I THINK.... it's not SLEN at all, but there seems to be something in Skyrim itself that sometimes marks an area cleared before it's COMPLETELY cleared, or doesn't mark it cleared when it IS actually cleared. Work through a dungeon.... I think it's cleared. Not showing as cleared. Keep searching for some bad guy I must have missed. Some secret passage or something..... finally just say, "Ah, screw it. I'll come back another time."

 

Leave the dungeon. I hear armor hitting the ground as my follower prepares to jump my bone. So that dungeon didn't get marked cleared until I left the dungeon. 

 

So... I'm pretty convinced that it isn't an issue with SLEN.

SLEN is reacting to that cleared flag being set. It's not doing the actual setting of the flag.

 

Good to hear that. Same situation is with Silent Moons camp. After I kill all bandits outside and two bandits inside the building, of which one is the boss, the game interprets that the camp is cleared, but there is one last bandit before I enter the locked room.

It is good to know that fight is stopped when Player is having sex.... I don't like to be interrupted in RL too.

 

[Sacremas]

Clearing a location does not depend on killing everyone, it relies on killing whoever's the boss and looting the boss chest. Some locations do not have either, Embershard has one of those big chests but it's not the boss chest, and there's no bandit chief in it, so the cleared message is instead sent when you've walked across the drawbridge and you're following alongside the cavewall, then you'll hear the tune, if you on killing everyone instead turned around and went out the way you came in, the location would not be cleared and the bandits would be back in a few days. There's a few other dungeons that act like this, the majority however you can sneak through all assassin style and not touch anyone but the final boss, then slit his throat, open his chest, and the location will be cleared.

[OldGuy879]

Also you followers needs to be lovers before SLEN scene triggers

I cleared Slient Moon camp but did not get a scene there even though no quest was tied to it lydia rank was ally at that point, charmed her into "Make love" and raise it to love then I clean the Halte Steam. where Amre sword was and had SLEN scene with Lydia( Lover ) ( know this i have not talk to Amre )

[Guest]

Also you followers needs to be lovers before SLEN scene triggers

I cleared Slient Moon camp but did not get a scene there even though no quest was tied to it lydia rank was ally at that point, charmed her into "Make love" and raise it to love then I clean the Halte Steam. where Amre sword was and had SLEN scene with Lydia( Lover ) ( know this i have not talk to Amre )

 

My follower wasn't my lover and I think they don't have to be lovers to trigger sex in clearing caves and forts.

[BeamerMiasma]

 

Also you followers needs to be lovers before SLEN scene triggers

I cleared Slient Moon camp but did not get a scene there even though no quest was tied to it lydia rank was ally at that point, charmed her into "Make love" and raise it to love then I clean the Halte Steam. where Amre sword was and had SLEN scene with Lydia( Lover ) ( know this i have not talk to Amre )

 

My follower wasn't my lover and I think they don't have to be lovers to trigger sex in clearing caves and forts.

 

 

Correct, they only need to be friend (rel rank 1) or closer. From the log you posted it simply seems like your follower was out of range. Perhaps they were stuck in the first cave or still fighting a bandit there?

 

[BeamerMiasma]

Clearing a location does not depend on killing everyone, it relies on killing whoever's the boss and looting the boss chest. Some locations do not have either, Embershard has one of those big chests but it's not the boss chest, and there's no bandit chief in it, so the cleared message is instead sent when you've walked across the drawbridge and you're following alongside the cavewall, then you'll hear the tune, if you on killing everyone instead turned around and went out the way you came in, the location would not be cleared and the bandits would be back in a few days. There's a few other dungeons that act like this, the majority however you can sneak through all assassin style and not touch anyone but the final boss, then slit his throat, open his chest, and the location will be cleared.

 

Entirely correct, and this has been discussed before in the thread. This is why I added the confirmation dialogue with the "Stop them" option. It's up to you to decide if it's safe. Note that if you are still in combat, the script will wait (up to 1 minute) before starting the orgy. Even then it is entirely possible too that your follower is in combat but that you are out of range of the enemy and therefor are not in combat. So the best advice I can give is: when in doubt, stop them.

 

When I do end up in a sex scene and an angry bandit approaches, I just <spacebar> through the scene quickly to the end. As long as I'm not at legendary difficulty, I don't think I've ever been killed because of it. Of course, when you know there are still enemies, it's better to just choose "Stop them", you can always start an orgy through dialogue after disposing of the last enemy.

[BeamerMiasma]

Just a note:

during the Ironbind quest (the one with the Argonian Beem-Ja and the female redguard Saima), the Eager Event starts at the end of the dungeon cleared, ok, but BEFORE the Argonian becomes hostile and wants to kill you to sacrifice. If you let the event to happen, everything becomes a big mess, with followers bleeded out, player killed and so on.

 

After that, I never had problems with this EXCELLENT mod. Thank you.

I have only one little complaint: during orgies, I feel sad to not have a gender or gender preference check. I don't like to see so many males  and male guards have gay sex, even if I already set them as straight both into Aroused Redux and SexLab.

 

I know the quest and I can see how that could become a mess real quick, especially because that damned argonian has pretty powerful lightning spells. If I build in an exclusion for that though, then I will get 100 more requests for other locations to do the same. I rather trust that people who use SexLab mods are experienced enough to realize when it would be better not to jump on their followers. And if they're not yet, they will be after having that happen 1 or 2 times Computers are good at following rules, but bad at seeing when it's the right time to deviate from the rules, that's more human territory.

 

As for gender sorting during orgies, aside from the statement on the description page, there is another important reason why I don't do any gender sorting, and that's performance. To pair up to 27 actors based on their gender and sexual preference would take an awful lot of time, far too much. Even figuring out the (SexLab) gender and (SLA) gender preference for each actor would cost multiple seconds, and that's before you try to find a suitable combination and distribution among the 27! (that's a 1 followed by 28 zeros) possible permutations of that many actors. It would be a piece of code that worked fine with 5 actors, but would freeze someone's computer for all eternity as soon as you started hitting double digit numbers (which is very much a reality when you have a dragon attack in a place like Riverwood or at the Riften stables). So rather than doing that, I say that in an orgy everyone does it with everyone, which makes them inherently unsuitable for non-bisexuals.

 

Personally I love seeing those guards bugger eachother. I always imagine they've been secretly checking out each other's asses for years, and it's thanks to the dragonborn that they were finally able to overcome their repressed sexuality

[NicoleDragoness]

:D

 

Understood everything about computing. My computer is a bit cheap so I know well this part. Thanks anyway.

 

And, about Ironbind, I wished to just report a little note. Nothing more. I did this quest at least 20 times and I know if and when do things.

[Sacremas]

If you want to put more sexy woman in your guard level list, get this mod; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60625/?Specifically you also want the Moar Deadly Wenches addon (this can be merged into your bashed patch). Now get rid of Diverse Guards Skyrim if you have it, and redo your bashed patch, you'll find that three out of four of your guards are stunningly sexy babes, and while you'll still have bisexual orgies you won't see as many male guards buggering each other. I've foudn that if there are women present then even with the current generalized orgy functions two guards still prefer DPing a female guard than bugger each other.

[BeamerMiasma]

If you want to put more sexy woman in your guard level list, get this mod; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60625/?Specifically you also want the Moar Deadly Wenches addon (this can be merged into your bashed patch). Now get rid of Diverse Guards Skyrim if you have it, and redo your bashed patch, you'll find that three out of four of your guards are stunningly sexy babes, and while you'll still have bisexual orgies you won't see as many male guards buggering each other. I've foudn that if there are women present then even with the current generalized orgy functions two guards still prefer DPing a female guard than bugger each other.

 

Clever solution, there's also a variety of mods available that will change some or all of the guard base actors to female. Still I'll give some thought to coming up with an algorithm for it, it's always a nice challenge to find a P solution for a seemingly NP problem. I won't make it a priority though, since there is a considerable chance that it will all be for naught because it turns out to be just too computationally intensive for papyrus.

 

[karlpaws]

 

If you want to put more sexy woman in your guard level list, get this mod; http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60625/?Specifically you also want the Moar Deadly Wenches addon (this can be merged into your bashed patch). Now get rid of Diverse Guards Skyrim if you have it, and redo your bashed patch, you'll find that three out of four of your guards are stunningly sexy babes, and while you'll still have bisexual orgies you won't see as many male guards buggering each other. I've foudn that if there are women present then even with the current generalized orgy functions two guards still prefer DPing a female guard than bugger each other.

 

Clever solution, there's also a variety of mods available that will change some or all of the guard base actors to female. Still I'll give some thought to coming up with an algorithm for it, it's always a nice challenge to find a P solution for a seemingly NP problem. I won't make it a priority though, since there is a considerable chance that it will all be for naught because it turns out to be just too computationally intensive for papyrus.

 

 

 

Not sure how feasible an option this is, but perhaps an MCM option for reducing the number of orgy participants in trade for more sorting? Having 28 participants is great, but I'd certainly be willing to take a quarter of that since I won't be able to see most of them anyway.

 

With the tech Bethesda gave us, asking Skyrim to be a modeling simulator might not be realistic (I think there are other near-games that do that.. Garry's Mod and Souce Filmaker I've seen referenced in other places... Garry's mod has been on sale on Steam sometimes).

[OldGuy879]

 

 

Also you followers needs to be lovers before SLEN scene triggers

I cleared Slient Moon camp but did not get a scene there even though no quest was tied to it lydia rank was ally at that point, charmed her into "Make love" and raise it to love then I clean the Halte Steam. where Amre sword was and had SLEN scene with Lydia( Lover ) ( know this i have not talk to Amre )

 

My follower wasn't my lover and I think they don't have to be lovers to trigger sex in clearing caves and forts.

 

 

Correct, they only need to be friend (rel rank 1) or closer. From the log you posted it simply seems like your follower was out of range. Perhaps they were stuck in the first cave or still fighting a bandit there?

 

 

 

Arh I seen hmm perhaps I should raise the proberbility bar a bit more then 50 thanks for clearing it fuo Elf Prince and BeamerMiasma

 

[Guest]

 

 

 

Also you followers needs to be lovers before SLEN scene triggers

I cleared Slient Moon camp but did not get a scene there even though no quest was tied to it lydia rank was ally at that point, charmed her into "Make love" and raise it to love then I clean the Halte Steam. where Amre sword was and had SLEN scene with Lydia( Lover ) ( know this i have not talk to Amre )

 

My follower wasn't my lover and I think they don't have to be lovers to trigger sex in clearing caves and forts.

 

 

Correct, they only need to be friend (rel rank 1) or closer. From the log you posted it simply seems like your follower was out of range. Perhaps they were stuck in the first cave or still fighting a bandit there?

 

 

 

Arh I seen hmm perhaps I should raise the proberbility bar a bit more then 50 thanks for clearing it fuo Elf Prince and BeamerMiasma

 

 

 

You're welcome. My probability bar is on 100% . Must make sure that she'll have sex with me. The good thing in the sex after cleaning cave or fort is that it can raise your relationship rank with your follower.

 

[Sacremas]

So, uh, I don't all that often use companions, but I often use summons that are with me as the dungeon is cleared. Any chance you can put in a "allow creatures and summons" option in SLEN, and have scene also involve the summon if it's someone with applicable animations (zombies, dremora, certain SIC summons via Bad Dog's Immersive Creatures, etc, probably not atronachs as far as I know)? I've tried having sex with temporary NPCs that vanished during the scene, it simply interrupts the scene right away, no negative effect, so no worry about summon duraiton passing out. Would also apply to pet followers like Barbas, Vigilance, Bran, Garm, CuSith, etc.

[NicoleDragoness]

@Sacremas

I disagree. Please, no creatures, monsters, zombies or similar things with SLEN.

 

@BeamerMiasma

 

Maybe I found a little issue. My configurations is with SL 1.59C and NSAP 2.8.1.

I noticed that often my char is stuck standing during the first stage of an animation. The next stages, instead, go fine.

I noticed also that, normally, this happens with NSAP animations.

Finally, I'm sure that this happens ONLY with animations called by SLEN. Never experienced the little issue with other sex mods.

 

Any idea?

[chajapa]

@Sacremas

I disagree. Please, no creatures, monsters, zombies or similar things with SLEN.

 

@BeamerMiasma

 

Maybe I found a little issue. My configurations is with SL 1.59C and NSAP 2.8.1.

I noticed that often my char is stuck standing during the first stage of an animation. The next stages, instead, go fine.

I noticed also that, normally, this happens with NSAP animations.

Finally, I'm sure that this happens ONLY with animations called by SLEN. Never experienced the little issue with other sex mods.

 

Any idea?

 

SLEN calls the animations the same way other animations do when retrieving animations by tag. It DOES happen when the same animations are called by other mods. I've seen it in animations called by JUGs as well. And I wrote JUGs so I know what it's doing.  

To the best of my knowledge, it only happens with NSAP animations, but I have not documented it enough times to be sure. And I'm using SL 1.60, so it's not just a 1.59c issue.

[Guest]

I noticed also that, normally, this happens with NSAP animations.

Finally, I'm sure that this happens ONLY with animations called by SLEN. Never experienced the little issue with other sex mods.

 

Any idea?

 

I don't have NSAP installed but do have SL 1.60.2 that contains some NSAP animations and have that problem too. Interestingly enough, "First stage issue" is spread to many animations, on ones that aren't from NSAP, ones that were in SL before. But haven't had that issue in SL 1.59c with NSAP animations.

[BeamerMiasma]

@Sacremas

I disagree. Please, no creatures, monsters, zombies or similar things with SLEN.

 

@BeamerMiasma

 

Maybe I found a little issue. My configurations is with SL 1.59C and NSAP 2.8.1.

I noticed that often my char is stuck standing during the first stage of an animation. The next stages, instead, go fine.

I noticed also that, normally, this happens with NSAP animations.

Finally, I'm sure that this happens ONLY with animations called by SLEN. Never experienced the little issue with other sex mods.

 

Any idea?

 

It definitely isn't caused by SLEN. SLEN just tells SexLab to start an animation, from that point on it has no influence. Have you ran FNIS after installing or last upgrading NSAP?

 

[srayesmanll]

 

@Sacremas

I disagree. Please, no creatures, monsters, zombies or similar things with SLEN.

 

@BeamerMiasma

 

Maybe I found a little issue. My configurations is with SL 1.59C and NSAP 2.8.1.

I noticed that often my char is stuck standing during the first stage of an animation. The next stages, instead, go fine.

I noticed also that, normally, this happens with NSAP animations.

Finally, I'm sure that this happens ONLY with animations called by SLEN. Never experienced the little issue with other sex mods.

 

Any idea?

 

It definitely isn't caused by SLEN. SLEN just tells SexLab to start an animation, from that point on it has no influence. Have you ran FNIS after installing or last upgrading NSAP?

 

 

 

And this is not a 1.60 issue.  I've had this happen occasionally using 1.59c, both with and without SLEN, and on standard SL animations and NSAP animations.  Hit the '[' key to realign the actors and the animations will continue as they should.

[Sacremas]

@Sacremas

I disagree. Please, no creatures, monsters, zombies or similar things with SLEN.

 

You'll note my suggestion was for a toggle, leave it off and you won't see creature animations, and creture animations won't be a requirement for the mod either way. Further more, in 1.6 if you didn't install the creature pack and ticked "allow creature animations" it still wouldn't do anything for your game even if you accidentally ticked it.

[kevtg26]

I'm trying to figure out if the mod is working or not. I have yet to see an even trigger, so I'm trying to force one just for testing. I've got the sleep event set to 100 but it hasnt happened yet despite going 24 hrs in one hour increments. Is the event chance a straight percentage or is it modified by other factors (relationship rank, arousal, time slept, etc...)?

[chajapa]

Sleep event at 100% works every time. You can sleep for an hour and it'll happen. In fact.... if you hit the free-cam toggle in SexLab and then "T" to wait an hour, it'll happen then as well because apparently it thinks you slept while waiting.

 

[BeamerMiasma]

I'm trying to figure out if the mod is working or not. I have yet to see an even trigger, so I'm trying to force one just for testing. I've got the sleep event set to 100 but it hasnt happened yet despite going 24 hrs in one hour increments. Is the event chance a straight percentage or is it modified by other factors (relationship rank, arousal, time slept, etc...)?

 

It's a straight percentage. Most likely cause for the sleep event not working is that you have no lovers in range (you have to have at least 1 lover in range, it won't work with only allies). Another possible cause is that you have some sleep replacer mod (like See Me Sleep or something like that) or a mod that interrupts sleep. Check your papyrus log, that should show clearly what the reason is.

[OldGuy879]

 

I'm trying to figure out if the mod is working or not. I have yet to see an even trigger, so I'm trying to force one just for testing. I've got the sleep event set to 100 but it hasnt happened yet despite going 24 hrs in one hour increments. Is the event chance a straight percentage or is it modified by other factors (relationship rank, arousal, time slept, etc...)?

 

It's a straight percentage. Most likely cause for the sleep event not working is that you have no lovers in range (you have to have at least 1 lover in range, it won't work with only allies). Another possible cause is that you have some sleep replacer mod (like See Me Sleep or something like that) or a mod that interrupts sleep. Check your papyrus log, that should show clearly what the reason is.

 

Do you have Sexlab Dangerous Nights 2 mod installed ?

For me it was that interfered with SLEN if SLDD trigger SLEN will not as the condition is that no other is  right BeamerMiasmea  so for home and civil I have set them to 0 in the SLDD to make allowance for SLEN to happen