Sacremas Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 In a less hositle manner (sorry about that) for the future if you want to resolve load order TES5Edit is your best tool. While it can be streneous as hell (to the point where I haven't really done it myself) for a perfectly stable game the best option is to load up your load order in TES5Edit, then go into the categories and see what each mod changes. If multiple mods are editing the Skyrim worldspace for example (a near guarantee) then you may want to make merge patch for those mods to make the most important edits get through. NPC edits likewise, one mod wants to edit NPC apperance, another wants to stick a sword in her inventory, another wants to teach her some perks, only the last loaded mod will win so if it's the perks then she doens't get the apperance overhaul and she doesn't get the sword. A merge patch will help her get all of them. And this is the most mundane form of mess up of load order, but it's the most visual one (it's the cause of grayfaces and messed up NPCs), but other more subtle changes can easily spell doom for your game once you get to level 40+, as your save swells beyond 15+ MB in size you start crashing again and again because your world contains conflicting records, and the game can't both maitain your save and clear up those errors in real time. Loot is a wonderful tool but it's also an incredibly stupid one, reliant entirely on guidelines given to it by people who don't know your load order and won't acknowledge the majority of Lover's Lab mods (hence the mess up in masters you had), as such use it as a tool to get a general load order for the majority of your mods (read, your Nexus mods) and order the rest yourself.
Guest Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 In a less hositle manner (sorry about that) for the future if you want to resolve load order TES5Edit is your best tool. While it can be streneous as hell (to the point where I haven't really done it myself) for a perfectly stable game the best option is to load up your load order in TES5Edit, then go into the categories and see what each mod changes. If multiple mods are editing the Skyrim worldspace for example (a near guarantee) then you may want to make merge patch for those mods to make the most important edits get through. NPC edits likewise, one mod wants to edit NPC apperance, another wants to stick a sword in her inventory, another wants to teach her some perks, only the last loaded mod will win so if it's the perks then she doens't get the apperance overhaul and she doesn't get the sword. A merge patch will help her get all of them. And this is the most mundane form of mess up of load order, but it's the most visual one (it's the cause of grayfaces and messed up NPCs), but other more subtle changes can easily spell doom for your game once you get to level 40+, as your save swells beyond 15+ MB in size you start crashing again and again because your world contains conflicting records, and the game can't both maitain your save and clear up those errors in real time. Loot is a wonderful tool but it's also an incredibly stupid one, reliant entirely on guidelines given to it by people who don't know your load order and won't acknowledge the majority of Lover's Lab mods (hence the mess up in masters you had), as such use it as a tool to get a general load order for the majority of your mods (read, your Nexus mods) and order the rest yourself. This is what I needed although I'm using Wrye bash. This tips are very helpful. Will "play around" with it. Thanks
Sacremas Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Yeah that was a freebie. Generally I don't repeat stuff I've already said in my modding guide. *hint hint*
BeamerMiasma Posted September 5, 2015 Author Posted September 5, 2015 Will you add a Dialogue after you select the sex position? then for "Immersive purposes" you could add that the target might reject after you select the position. Because i find it weird that everyone is up for anal Not everyone is up for anal. You need to know the person before you even get the option to suggest to fuck their ass, you can't propose to do so to a stranger (unless you pay, in which case they are a prostitute and expected to please their customer as long as it's not too outlandish). Will the next update include futa support?or is it already there and am i just using the wrong settings? SLEN has supported futa play 100% since the very first release.
Vuulgar Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I am having a great time with your mod, the swiss army knife is right and what I like most about it. I have messed a bit with SL1.6, not a full time user just yet but I noticed it has individual orgasms feature, this made me think of your relations increases. Instead of tying the increases to sex itself would it be possible to tie the increases to orgasm events? And another thought, use your Sexlab experience to determine when an orgasm happens and whoever has the most stamina determines how long sex lasts so that multiple orgasms would be possible. Decreases in relationship could come from no getting your partner off. I have thought something like this would be fun after trying Sexlab Rapespell but that mod really does nothing with the idea, altering relations fits perfectly imo. Once again, no idea on the difficulty, just pitching an idea out to see if you like it.
Sacremas Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 It's a bit weird to pay Elisif 48 gold to pork her ass five minutes after meeting her though, in the middle of the court at that. Way to establish yourself as the rightful high queen!
Serenna187 Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Will the next update include futa support?or is it already there and am i just using the wrong settings? and another thing,maybe the "lets relax for a while" could be skipped for lovers?so it's not "of course dovakhin" followed by "my love" Futa support is already in the mod and has been for a long while, go to SLEN MCM, Player, toggle yourself to male, you now use all male positions when applicable. Get your schlong from somewhere else. You can do the same procedure with NPCs as well. i do have everything set up and running for months already.i was using sexlab romance before i switched to this mod.and basicly all i now get is animations for anal sex,fem char and followers,all using unp schlong,so i imagined i would get all animations useable for my gals but get restricted to gay animatios only,or lesbian animations only as either both participants are either male or female depending on the tick i made in the mcm or short,2 gals,both unp cocks,lesbian only,or gay only
Sacremas Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Oh yeah that's a good point. Proper futa support should enable all animations (jsut do away wit the strap-on) for the Futa in question, not set him or her to the opposite gender role alone.
ButchDiavolo Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 OrcsOnElvesWildButtsecks.com OMG, I was the only one who is addicted to that site!
Serenna187 Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 exactly...and i really don't feel like changing the mcm settings for every single female i encounter,,be it bandit or follower,,,that's why i asked if there was futa support,cause i saw none
BeamerMiasma Posted September 5, 2015 Author Posted September 5, 2015 Will the next update include futa support?or is it already there and am i just using the wrong settings? and another thing,maybe the "lets relax for a while" could be skipped for lovers?so it's not "of course dovakhin" followed by "my love" Futa support is already in the mod and has been for a long while, go to SLEN MCM, Player, toggle yourself to male, you now use all male positions when applicable. Get your schlong from somewhere else. You can do the same procedure with NPCs as well. i do have everything set up and running for months already.i was using sexlab romance before i switched to this mod.and basicly all i now get is animations for anal sex,fem char and followers,all using unp schlong,so i imagined i would get all animations useable for my gals but get restricted to gay animatios only,or lesbian animations only as either both participants are either male or female depending on the tick i made in the mcm or short,2 gals,both unp cocks,lesbian only,or gay only Female characters with SexLab gender set to female (or not set) get all options that can be performed with a strap-on, which includes pretty much all of them, so I'm not sure I follow you. For FF you can ask her to ride you, tell her you want to fuck her doggy style or anal, plus all of them in reversed roles, those are all non-lesbian options. If you want to play a dual gender role together with a dual gender NPC, it's best to just leave the SexLab gender for both actors at Female or Not set. Only set the gender of either to Male if you typically always want that actor to perform the 'top' role.
BeamerMiasma Posted September 5, 2015 Author Posted September 5, 2015 exactly...and i really don't feel like changing the mcm settings for every single female i encounter,,be it bandit or follower,,,that's why i asked if there was futa support,cause i saw none The 2 things you're asking don't mesh. If you want to change the gender of schlongified actors to male, you can (with the SOS Integration), but if you want them in a female role, you shouldn't. It's one or the other, there is no 'both' gender in Skyrim, SexLab or SLA. If you just leave their gender alone, they can be in both the top and bottom role, regardless of what they have attached between their legs. If they don't have a schlong, they'll simply equip a strap-on when put in a top role (assuming you have that option switched on in SexLab settings). Edit: perhaps you have the new SexLab "Filter Gay/Lesbian Animations" settings turned on? If so, you need to turn that off. That option should only be used by people who want only FF sex without strap-ons.
Antonio121989 Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Could you also include passive solicitation? I mean, NPCs with an arousal > X approach and hit on you as you can do with them (based on sexlab sexuality of course, females hit males and males females, bisexual hit both)
Sacremas Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Could you also include passive solicitation? I mean, NPCs with an arousal > X approach and hit on you as you can do with them (based on sexlab sexuality of course, females hit males and males females, bisexual hit both) That means cloaks and intrusive scripts. If you want that sort use Sexlife instead and set yourself as one of the actors and wait for arousal to get high enough.
Serenna187 Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 okay,the phrasing of the dialogue options tricked me...expected the"i want to make love to you" trigger a consensual m/f sex animation,not a lesbian one which i got every time,or skyrim is fooling me again as always..sexlab romance was very,,,straight forward compared to this,,and no,i never changed sexlab gender and still use sexlab 1.59c,which has no filter as far as i know and will stick to it until 1.6 works flawlessly and the mods i use get the needed update
Sacremas Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Sexlab Cumshot contains a MCM option to define your own or another character as transgender, all it'll do then is to simply disable the strap on and enable cum shots in all scenes as if you were a male or gay character. Once that's set most mods that do not specifically call for lesbian animations by tags will work with Futa automatically.
Serenna187 Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 yes i do have this mod,but this transgender options is rather pointless.enabling female/female cum in sexlab is all you need and you can disable the strap on there too,,,cumshot applies cum to the unp schlongs without any changes needed
Serenna187 Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 this is getting stupid,,i simply can't get any m/f vaginal sex animations with this mod...the "i want to make love to you" triggers nothing but lesbian ones,forced gender by this mod's mcm is set to "not set" for my char and my follower,as was suggested, and tried it with both set to female as well,also lesbian only wih this dialogue option
BeamerMiasma Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 this is getting stupid,,i simply can't get any m/f vaginal sex animations with this mod...the "i want to make love to you" triggers nothing but lesbian ones,forced gender by this mod's mcm is set to "not set" for my char and my follower,as was suggested, and tried it with both set to female as well,also lesbian only wih this dialogue option If you want M/F animations for the "make love" option, then all you need to do is simply set the gender of one of the 2 actors to M and the other to F. I didn't think this was so hard to figure out Or just pick one of the other options that are clearly M/F ones (cowgirl, doggystyle, etc).
BeamerMiasma Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 v20150906 released Changes: New spells: Libido Transfusion (Minor, Lesser, Greater, Major). These aimed concentration spells in the Illusion school will draw from your sexual libido (SLA Timerate) and use it to increase the target's SLA exposure. You need to have a minimum level of sexual energy in order to use these spells. The minimum SLA timerate needed to use each spell is 12.5 for Minor, 25 for Lesser, 37.5 for Greater and 50 for Major. New spell: Libido Explosion. This master level Illusion spell works similar to the Libido Transfusion spells but will affect everyone within range. New spells: Magnify Ardor (Minor, Lesser, Greater, Major). These aimed spells in the Illusion school will temporarily (for 1 minute) magnify the target's existing exposure. Minor will increase the exposure by 25%, Lesser by 50%, Greater by 100% and Major by 200%. After the effect expires it will leave the target somewhat numbed and reduce their exposure to half of what it was before the spell took effect. The priestesses of Dibella may now occasionally provide you a Cure Sex Addiction potion for a greatly reduced price or even for free if you assist them in their Dibella worship. Horny NPCs may respond more eagerly when you try to pick them up. I reverted the changes to the sound effect for the shout to how they were in v20150816 and earlier, meaning they are now implemented again as sound effect rather than voice resource. This should resolve the issues some people were having with the shout. I have built in an extra 10 second wait at the start of a sex scene before list keeping and relationship rank increase are handled to give SexLab all available resources while setting up its animations. Possibly this may reduce the number of freezes some people with slower or less stable machines are experiencing at the start of a sex scene. Most likely a 100% placebo effect, but it doesn't hurt I disabled the option to remove spells and potions from leveled lists. This was more of a debug/development option that may cause unexpected and hard to track side effects when other mods modify the same leveled lists. The correct way to remove these items from your game is to uninstall SLEN. Minor clean-ups, tweaks and improvements. A note on SLA versions: while developing the spells for this release I came across a rounding error in the SLA code that leads to an increased loss of exposure. Essentially, on any exposure increase that an actor got, they would at the same time lose 1 point of exposure. This was fixed in v20 of SLA Redux. If you have not upgraded SLA Redux to v20 or later yet, you should do so. If you keep using v19 or lower, the Libido Transfusion spells as well as the aphrodisiacs will be significantly less powerful than they are meant to be (plus of course the effect of the rounding error itself, which means that your PC and NPCs will lose their exposure at a greatly accellerated speed whenever they get any exposure).
malisbad1 Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Enjoying the mod. Nicely done. Just one request. When an NPC accepts an offer, any way to 'pick a better spot' like Submit does? It's just a bit awkward to proposition an NPC in like an inn, and then drop drawers right there in the main room, unless that's your thing of course :-) But it would be nice to be able to lead them to a more discrete location. Unfortunately I find my self using the Submit dialog more for just this reason.
Sacremas Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 You keep getting these requests and will get them forever. How about a compromise and make the follow only work in the same cell as you seduced the NPC in question? Meaning you can't take them out of the inn, you can't take them into the inn (the back of it should be enough) and you certainly can't take them out of the city unless they were already out of it. Maybe also put a timer on it, so that they stop follow if they've been following for more than 2-5 miniutes, so no seducing Nazeem and taking him to fight dragons or the like.
chajapa Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Whenever I want to drag an NPC around, I just puppet them first.... do.... whatever... and then release them.
Xfan Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Hey guys, have any of you noticed how when you enable the trainers dialogue it kinda "breaks" unofficial skyrim patch in a way that i'm able to get my gold back from a trainer npc if it's my follower, Fendal for instance? I'm not sure if this is a big issue or not and how it will affect the rest of the fixes made by the unofficial patch?
Serenna187 Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 this is getting stupid,,i simply can't get any m/f vaginal sex animations with this mod...the "i want to make love to you" triggers nothing but lesbian ones,forced gender by this mod's mcm is set to "not set" for my char and my follower,as was suggested, and tried it with both set to female as well,also lesbian only wih this dialogue option If you want M/F animations for the "make love" option, then all you need to do is simply set the gender of one of the 2 actors to M and the other to F. I didn't think this was so hard to figure out Or just pick one of the other options that are clearly M/F ones (cowgirl, doggystyle, etc). shouldn't this dialogue option rather lead to a general consensual sex animation,regardles of gender restrictions?but excluding lesbian animations to avoid weird moments? +rubs eyes+ this would mean going to the mcm,changing settings again if i wanted to have positions exchanged again...or use the sexlab hotkey to switch positions,,right? lets roll it up from the other side,,sexlab romance had it this way,,,if using"i want to fuck you" your char gets the male position without questioning even if female.then if the other is female too it plays a m/f animation simple as that.if the other actor is male though, it goes for a anal/ gay animation,obviously,,,why doesn't your"i want to make love to you" work the same?
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