[Sims3][WIP] KinkyWorld v0.37 [Updated: May 3rd 2019]

[landess]

2 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

ARRR???????? What's that?

LOL!

 

[landess]

As I continue to mess with the Professional Whore career provided by KW, I myself run across a few things that I try to understand.

 

I remember seeing other prostitutes around town when I enabled 'callgirls and prostitutes' and had the number set to a positive value. I also saw them get arrested by the police and taken 'away' like criminals and rapists can. Whenever an active Sim I control is confronted by the police when actively whoring, I get the notification - arrest: lecture about whoring (something like that) but there is no arrest or lecture. I've seen the police do both in other situations not related to KW and it seems something doesn't complete in the script IF these notifications are accurate. The Sim in question simply stops 'working' and changes back into the normal attire. I see the police officer, but nothing happens - no interaction, they just end up leaving.

 

Now I have had my active sim arrested for rape, and a HUGE chunk of money was taken, presumably as a fine (and was released the next morning after spending the night in 'jail') - but nothing of the sort happens for actively whoring in this career.

 

Curious if others have the same experience, or something different happens....

 

>>> Also: Keeping an eye on the skill menu tab for Woohoo, since it tracks the Professional Whore stats with Title and Number of 'tricks'. I noticed the Reputation just above it and am not sure how this part works yet. Of the 2 girls I have working at the moment to play with this feature more - One has no reputation, yet has 4 events and the title: Slum Whore. The other only has 2 events, and NO title - yet has a reputation: Bitch.

 

I find this all amusing, but it would be nice to understand it better. The one with the title and no reputation was stopped by police (with nothing happening) while the other hasn't been 'busted' yet.

 

Spoiler

 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, landess said:

OH!

[Guest]

3 hours ago, landess said:

Curious if others have the same experience, or something different happens....

I constantly get the "lecture" notification when one of my whores gets busted, but they are never arrested. 

 

Not completelysure how the reputation thing works, but I have gotten notices when I am controlling a whore... Things like, "A well known whore shouldn't work here" or "You may get hassled by police, maybe you should find another spot".Something like that. But, I never really looked at the stats journal.

[spaceman1]

10 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

ARRR???????? What's that?

[landess]

3 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

Things like, "A well known whore shouldn't work here"

I'll just have to push the save series forward to increase the experience and see what happens. I've never had the above notification - presumably because I never played the career long enough as an active Sim.

 

A lot of times I'll play a Sim household long enough to get it established and then switch to another: I tend to do this when adding households to already populated worlds so they aren't without some kind of history. I'll just stick with these girls for awhile and see what happens - it'll just take some time and commitment. I guess I can add another Sim to the household as a 'focal point' Sim so I don't have to 'babysit' the Whore Sims as they do their thing - maybe a Pet since they can be actively controlled to an extent and I haven't spent as much time with pets as I should. I have all EP's but some of the features I never explore like I could (Like the Future).

[Guest]

11 hours ago, landess said:

I never played the career long enough as an active Sim.

Well, wish me luck then! As FemmeBot is just about ready... again... 4.0 is well in testing. And yes,this IS a Plumbot, not a KW droid!

Spoiler

 

I decide to heck with EA's Plumbot mapping as I used for FemmeBot. These will be stand alone kits to put together in the bot station!

 

Will definitely make running a brothel more fun! Buy a house, add a charging station, call it a brothel and send them there!!!!

[Ankunge]

Is it possible to download something that changes my version to 1.67? Im currently stuck at 1.69

[landess]

2 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

These will be stand alone kits to put together in the bot station!

Because of animation alignment based of default height, using 'real' high heels which add extra height to any sim wearing them causes problems that I adapt to by making these Sims shorter. Sometimes this can also cause minor issues, but then that's how it goes when one mods a game. I just didn't care for all the females wearing them to tower over everyone else myself.

 

I hadn't tried to adjust FemmeBot's height during testing, and am curious if you've noted this 'side effect'. I can always adjust the height of a 'KWbot' as it's a person with only one outfit over the regular nudesuit.

 

> On the side: I've made Males a bit taller sometimes (really like the look of different height sims like real life) but the arm lengths don't change, so if one makes Sims too tall or short, the body/arms become distracting because of loss of proportion.

[landess]

5 minutes ago, Ankunge said:

Is it possible to download something that changes my version to 1.67? Im currently stuck at 1.69

Sounds like a technical problem that isn't KW related other than KW using 1.67 as a base for the mod.

 

If you are NOT using Origin, that's easy to do. If you ARE using Origin, then even if you manage to 'rollback' to an earlier version, the next time you open the game Origin will just auto-patch back to 1.69.

 

Since I ONLY use disks, Others with the Origin client will have to confirm, but as 'has been posted before' :  1.69 is only a launcher/Origin thing and doesn't affect the use of any mod having 1.67 as it's base.

 

>> LoversLab is a mod site. I see you just joined and your first post is here on the KinkyWorld mod post section. You are asking about something which doesn't pertain to this mod specifically, or even mods in general. I just find this odd. Anyways I wouldn't worry about using 1.69, unless there is more you haven't revealed.

 

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, landess said:

problems that I adapt to by making these Sims shorter.

The original FemmeBot that you've been helping me test, isn't raised that much. I did shorten a few of mine, but not by much and animation alignment wasn't too bad. 4.0 is much newer, and changing every other day, sometimes 3 or 4 times, as I get a new idea. Funny, haven't uploaded FemmeBot yet, and already working on 4.0! I feel like a real tech company!!! What you by from Apple was obsolete 6 months before they put it in stores!

 

I made small adjustments to the calves, ankles and feet on FemmeBot to "absorb" some of the heel height, which I can't do on the 4.0 or MaidBot, so.... 

 

The problem is maintaining EA bone alignment. It might be possible to make them slightly smaller overall, which would align their overall height to standard EA while still wearing high heel shoes, but it may also create bone alignment issues, and bone delta calculations that I don't know enough about making. And, I don't know if it would improve animation alignment anyway, after doing all of that work. In between other stuff, I may try shrinking a mesh to see what happens, just because I'm curious about it now. Again, being "stand alone bots", I don't care about the parts aligning with other parts, so in that respect, it wouldn't be an issue to look at.

 

That you see arm issues when making sims taller, leads me to ask which sliders you use? I use a bunch, from different creators, but the height slider is from CmarNYC, and the arms lengthen and shorten in proportion to overall height change. I do have another slider, which is just the legs, which doesn't change arm length. Why do you think lovely Laura Klein has such looooooong model legs? )))

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Ankunge said:

Is it possible to download something that changes my version to 1.67? Im currently stuck at 1.69

Yes and no. You would have to completely uninstall your game, reinstall it, go find the super patch download which patches everything up to 1.67 and use that. Then get the auto connection blocker for your browser to block Origin from auto-connecting to your game to update it if you pop online while it's running, as I am right now and watching Origin being shut down.

 

And as landess said, that will only work if you use discs and don't run your game through Origin to play.

 

If you are having a problem with Kinky World, it's not because you are patched to 1.69.

[landess]

1 hour ago, LadySmoks said:

which sliders you use? I use a bunch, from different creators, but the height slider is from CmarNYC

I'd seriously have to do some digging to answer that, but as an aside:

 

My height slider is located in the head section of CAS, near the bottom of sliders available. When I lower a Sims height past -150 I notice the hand positions are a bit further down the thighs than normal. Maybe I'm just OCD on things.... I don't have a bunch of slider from MANY different creators, maybe 2 sets for just body stuff. Then there are those specialty sliders for things like amputation, crossed eyes, eyelash length and position, etc. which would not have an effect on the body proportions.

 

In the set of pictures just above - the woman skating in a dress is a default EA sim. Now looking closely at her arms in proportion to the foreground Sim/focus of the shot. You'll notice the custom sims arms appear to be a bit long for her height (she is around -250 height). Now that I mention it, it probably cannot be unseen.... >>> I do tend to raise female sims hips though as well, which just amplifies it.

 

'Unlocking' the sliders by changing the slider values in MC can create some strange and disturbing Sims, which also plays hell with animations. Who knows what a bored mind might produce?

 

Couple of links:

https://oneeuromutt.tumblr.com/post/143562242636/master-slider-list-separated-by-locations  <part 1

https://oneeuromutt.tumblr.com/post/143562288851/master-slider-list-separated-by-locations  <part 2

 

Checking these lists I'm thinking I have the height slider from OneEuroMutt - the CmarNYC link is old and won't give me a download option to test.

 

Below: there was previous discussion about NPC's in the game KW uses. While I can't confirm where this Sim comes from, I can say that the career listing - dancer- means if you have a bachelor party, this Sim 'Cherie Pie' will show up to dance. Because I DIDN'T choose to have NRaas kick out homeless Sims when I started this save series/town, these sims DO get pushed to public places FYI.

 

 

Now I have to give her a decent everyday outfit because EA can't dress Sims for shit......

[Guest]

1 hour ago, landess said:

I do tend to raise female sims hips though as well, which just amplifies it.

That may be 90% of what you are seeing, as the hand position appears to be around mid thigh, which is normal. Sounds like your height slider is about where mine is, but mine actually says Cmar in the CAS slider. https://www.modthesims.info/browse.php?gs=2&f=38&showType=1&u=3216596 . I have a few ofJohna's sliders, and OneEuroMutt. The leg only slider that I mentioned is his. My sliders go +512 to -512, so a good sized range, although I generally don't go that far.

 

1 hour ago, landess said:

EA can't dress Sims for shit......

I looked at that issue, and it's a multi mod problem. If you only had basic EA clothes... no CC, the game might do okay. But, CC marked as random, and using colors that are NOT coordinated to work with every other outfit... mods like Nraas Dresser, which seem to ignore setting them to NOT use items that are set as NOT for random, and KW apparently also tries to dress your sims, especially by getting involved in age up, well... FUBAR!

[landess]

27 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

mine actually says Cmar in the CAS

Yeah I just fixed 'Cherie Pie' in CAS and mine does say sim height by cmar. (she better stick to dancing)

 

I tend to stick with the default 256 range (x1) but have had it as far as x5 to make the werewolf faces....

 

Spoiler

 

I meant to ask if @LadySmoks you noticed much difference in load time or game operation (skips/lag) with the 2 new EP's you installed?

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, landess said:

mine does say sim height by cmar

May be that hip raise slider making things look odd? If a longer leg look is what you want, try downloading the z-leg slider from OEM. As I said, I made Laura taller, but also stretched her legs a bit. If it's a short waist look you want (as you raise the hips) perhaps again use the height slider down, then longer legs with the OEM slider? Or... you may find a combination of the 3 sliders that works? )))

[landess]

32 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

If a longer leg look is what you want

It's actually neither... As the hips are raised, the hip bones become 'more defined' as the slope between the widest point of the hips to the narrowest point of the waist becomes shorter. I also have 2 sliders which change the hip-waist distance... I tend to raise the hips on one by say 50-90, then the other I drop the hips by about 1/2 that amount. Both say they do the same thing, but it's obvious they aren't attached to the same bones. By doing it this way I get more definition without putting the legs completely out of whack where animations are concerned.... A lot of trial and error, but then like most artists, everyone has a style that emerges over time.

 

While I've done what I could to enhance the looks as I like, I've had to make some concessions since animations are as important unless one is only creating 'screenshots' of pretty Sims, and not actually playing. Butt Mass, Butt Rotation, and others really make for some crazy hot looking Sims, but as soon as they start doing stuff, the resulting over/under extension of the limbs and such is quite unbearable.

 

I just downloaded 2 different arm sliders and will see if either of those will work for me - I've been wanting to find a way to 'skinny up' the arms a bit as well, so maybe these will do what I need - it isn't much, just a tweak.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, landess said:

Both say they do the same thing, but it's obvious they aren't attached to the same bones.

I have read that it's possible to make vertices sliders for TS3, but bone sliders are much easier and because of garment and other mesh CC where vertices aren't necessarily all in the same places, they may not work right on some things. Reason I was looking is because I noticed FemmeBot's boobs distorted a bit as the size was increased, but then took another look at the actual bone weights and found the problem. I don't know all there is about bones and bone weight, but my understanding IS increasing as I try more difficult meshes. I may still look into how sliders are put together to get a better understanding of how they affect what I make.

[landess]

54 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

how sliders are put together

Just experimenting with the breast sliders I have shows me a few things. Besides the default breast slider from EA/Nightlife EP, I have 2 size sliders, a fullness, height, cleavage, rotation, depth options, plus a chest height slider which will lower the breast down the chest which is good for larger full breasts. The rotation is fun, but will mess with clothes worn because it goes from:  _ _ to \ / or / \  so any horizontal lines will also change. It can be useful when wearing certain outfits to add definition, but it can also cause problems if overdone because of things like the under-boob becoming extremely uneven. The fullness moves the nipple up or down by rotating the breast vertically. Depth allows more 'pointed' breasts, so with a judicious use of all I can go from a voluptuous mature look to the fake porn look and then a perky young look just to name some extremes. Even the 3 different size sliders act differently in the overall shape and how the nipple size is affected before even getting to the Cmar sliders for nipple size and length.... Did I mention I'm a CAS whore? But like any slider use, animations - in this case - anything that uses the breasts from hands or mouth, including the 'movement' some animators include can be seriously affected.

 

 

[spaceman1]

11 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

Yes and no. You would have to completely uninstall your game, reinstall it, go find the super patch download which patches everything up to 1.67 and use that. Then get the auto connection blocker for your browser to block Origin from auto-connecting to your game to update it if you pop online while it's running, as I am right now and watching Origin being shut down.

Or you can go into Origin>Application Settings>Auto Game Updates and turn it off.  You can even do that while in Offline Mode and disconnected from the internet.

[spaceman1]

13 hours ago, landess said:

Since I ONLY use disks, Others with the Origin client will have to confirm, but as 'has been posted before' :  1.69 is only a launcher/Origin thing and doesn't affect the use of any mod having 1.67 as it's base.

Not quite while script mods and tuning mods where unaffected. Core Mods like Nraas Error Trap, XCAS, Consorts 2x Weight and Fitmess, Awesome mod and a couple of lesser known core mods had to be updated as they are patch level specific. 

 

In fact Nraas Untranslated Key will break the launcher if you install the 1.67 version while being on 1.69.

8 hours ago, landess said:

I meant to ask if @LadySmoks you noticed much difference in load time or game operation (skips/lag) with the 2 new EP's you installed?

Which 2 EP's I know when I had installed Supernatural, Seasons and Island Paradise I had longer load times.

[spaceman1]

9 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

I looked at that issue, and it's a multi mod problem. If you only had basic EA clothes... no CC, the game might do okay.

 

I challenge you to play the vanilla game.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, spaceman1 said:

Or you can go into Origin>Application Settings>Auto Game Updates and turn it off.  You can even do that while in Offline Mode and disconnected from the internet.

 From the question, it seems as@Ankunge is currently patched to 1.69 and wants to go back to 1.67.  Turning off updates may keep it from going back to 1.69, but won't turn the clock back. )

4 hours ago, spaceman1 said:

Which 2 EP's I know when I had installed Supernatural, Seasons and Island Paradise I had longer load times.

Missed the original question from @landess. Advertisement time.... I bought Supernatural and University on DISC... USED... both for around $20 on Amazon prime. Both discs are scratch free!!!! DISCS... no Origin!!! )))

 

And to landess' question, not really. I know EA says not to, but I run TS3, LN, WA, SP1, ITF, and now SN and Uni all at the same time,and really didn't notice a significant increase in load times. I also load in the background while doing other things. I may be here while loading, or working on a mesh, so I'm not usually watching the water boil.

4 hours ago, spaceman1 said:

I challenge you to play the vanilla game.

I said, "IF and YOU"... And I could easily play vanilla. You never said for how long!!!! ?

[spaceman1]

2 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

 From the question, it seems as@Ankunge is currently patched to 1.69 and wants to go back to 1.67.  Turning off updates may keep it from going back to 1.69, but won't turn the clock back. )

The only way to avoid 1.69 completely is by having the Steam version but then you can't use CAW, Save Cleaner, Easy CASP and Game Selector. Turning off Auto Game Updates works very well using a connection blocker only works as long as Microsoft doesn't mess around with your computer settings. I lost all my Bookmarks a couple of weeks ago when MS decided that I didn't need them and deleted from my browser.

2 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

And to landess' question, not really. I know EA says not to, but I run TS3, LN, WA, SP1, ITF, and now SN and Uni all at the same time,and really didn't notice a significant increase in load times. I also load in the background while doing other things. I may be here while loading, or working on a mesh, so I'm not usually watching the water boil.

I usually run everything but Pets, IP and ITF. But even with just the Base Game and SN or Seasons my load times seem to be longer with them about 3 minutes my load times even with everything else is around 1 minute. For some reason SN, Seasons and IP bottleneck my computer.

I have all EP's and SP's on top of owning every single piece of crap that was ever in the Sims 3 Store as well as all the limited and promotional stuff like the Vorn Stallion and the Dr. Pepper items. Why did I buy all that shit anyway, I must've been drunk or something.

2 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

I said, "IF and YOU"... And I could easily play vanilla. You never said for how long!!!!

I remember when I got tired of all the god awful crap my sims where wearing and used Easy Casp to hide them in CAS. One thing I noticed was all the nice stuff you wouldn't mind seeing a sim wear was all invalid for random and all the hideous shit was valid for random . If you ever get the Movie Stuff pack make sure to recategorize that stuff or your town will get infested with all that hideous clothing.

[landess]

1 hour ago, spaceman1 said:

having the Steam version but then you can't use CAW, Save Cleaner  <edit>

I never knew this as no one brought it up before. I'm a preacher of using Save Cleaner, and some have had problems and version use was discussed. Since Steam was never mentioned this might have been the issue but who knew?

 

Is there a way around this? Perhaps making a folder/address that Kuree's Save Cleaner recognizes, and copy/paste saves there and then replace the -cleaned- originals?

 

 

 

>>> As for Sims dressing, Hideous is good. It's almost like the game chooses the absolute worst items to use, and if you removed it, it finds the next worst... I know it's not possible, but it sure feels like it. Here's a good one - I have long werewolf teeth for slider/extended snouts. It is located in FACIAL hair, and the game gives it to females ALL THE TIME. If I didn't have NRaas dresser/remove all body hair, I wouldn't be able to remove it without enabling facial hair for females. Using this logic why don't half my NPC females have beards?