Vivi Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 the reason why am saying this i have better things to be tending to like my college course am doing as i have multiple assessments currently going on so yeaa... :/ That's cool ^^ but this is not what you said the first time also I hope you don't think that modders has nothing else to do in their lives than sitting around tweaking and making mods ^^
VonHelton Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 the reason why am saying this i have better things to be tending to like my college course am doing as i have multiple assessments currently going on so yeaa... :/ That's cool ^^ but this is not what you said the first time also I hope you don't think that modders has nothing else to do in their lives than sitting around tweaking and making mods ^^ I refuse to answer that on the grounds it may incriminate me!
Greer Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Still having the fluttering bug, tried everything,even edits that Stevie mentioned. This is just plain frustrating,everything else works just fine! HDT Object doesn't seem to do anything either, as once the fluttering started it just doesn't seem to go away, no matter how many times I equip/unequip the damn thing.
VonHelton Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Still having the fluttering bug, tried everything,even edits that Stevie mentioned. This is just plain frustrating,everything else works just fine! HDT Object doesn't seem to do anything either, as once the fluttering started it just doesn't seem to go away, no matter how many times I equip/unequip the damn thing. Add a bunch of HDT clothing (mine's Japanese, but I suspect any HDT clothing will do) to your followers & see if you get the stretching to infinity & disappearing buggs. .....I had high hopes this new skele I was testing would cure my ills, but it did not.
Greer Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Oh I use remodelled armor for 7B by Rickerhk with HDT, it works flawlessly.So i'm sure I've done the installation correctly...unless I am missing something that is not mentioned or haven't done something that wasn't said.
ecobotstar Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 So for some reason I tried put everything out of Plugins folder from http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27122-working-vagina-hdt-collisions-hair-physics-now-with-belly-support/ except the hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml (I still use mine, which is Equipment + breast + butt HDT ) and replace everything HDT Vagina related in my Plugins folder and voilà it works!Just like that. Don't have to wear HavokObject either, I don't know if you guys'll get the same results but this works for me! After I've been trying to work this out since this mod came out. Now I feel so awesome.
VonHelton Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Oh I use remodelled armor for 7B by Rickerhk with HDT, it works flawlessly.So i'm sure I've done the installation correctly...unless I am missing something that is not mentioned or haven't done something that wasn't said. So you have multiple followers wearing HDT clothing & no stretching to infinity or disappearing followers? Ok, then something is wrong on my end. :/ I'll keep testing......
Eikichi Onizuka Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I try the New Stevie HDT Vagina v1.43b with Unified Project (last version) and Work Fine! now there is no more overlapping textures inside the vagina, finally..! But.. the only problem now, seems to be the match of Vagina textures (I use Alterantive vagina textures), with the previous version of Stevie's Vagina v1.3, there was no trace of this problem, textures glitch, no worries with v1.3bLook especially the upper part of the vagina, where there the tip of the clitoris, it seems as if it were cut off, or there were two clits.. see the screens of Vagina v1.43b, have a "strange vagina textures mismatch glitch/deformation"Open.. Close.. How can I fix this, please ?
Stevierage Posted March 16, 2015 Author Posted March 16, 2015 How can I fix this, please ? That's a problem with Unified i think, cuz it doesn't happen on the 7B body in my mod. Looks like the weight paints are messed up, try rebuilding the body or If you know how to use Outfit Studio, you could transfer the weights and vagina mesh to your body.
HopliteZ Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Amazing mod, works fine at the moment for me. The only thing i find weird is that when my pc stands still the vagina is like 40% open, not entirely closed, can i fix this somehow? I am using your HDT vagina v.1.43a with your xml's and one of Daie's xml.
Greer Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Still would be nice if someone sat down to make a complete guide on how to set this up, outlining all the needed items and possible fixes.At least in some form.
ousnius Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 How can I fix this, please ? That's a problem with Unified i think, cuz it doesn't happen on the 7B body in my mod. Looks like the weight paints are messed up, try rebuilding the body or If you know how to use Outfit Studio, you could transfer the weights and vagina mesh to your body. I think btn2k used Mesh Rigger to copy your new weights to the new UUNP Special. Better than Outfit Studio's weight copy quality but still not perfect. Probably weights from one side on the other.
Groovtama Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 How can I fix this, please ? That's a problem with Unified i think, cuz it doesn't happen on the 7B body in my mod. Looks like the weight paints are messed up, try rebuilding the body or If you know how to use Outfit Studio, you could transfer the weights and vagina mesh to your body. I think btn2k used Mesh Rigger to copy your new weights to the new UUNP Special. Better than Outfit Studio's weight copy quality but still not perfect. Probably weights from one side on the other. FIX IT!
Stevierage Posted March 16, 2015 Author Posted March 16, 2015 How can I fix this, please ? That's a problem with Unified i think, cuz it doesn't happen on the 7B body in my mod. Looks like the weight paints are messed up, try rebuilding the body or If you know how to use Outfit Studio, you could transfer the weights and vagina mesh to your body. I think btn2k used Mesh Rigger to copy your new weights to the new UUNP Special. Better than Outfit Studio's weight copy quality but still not perfect. Probably weights from one side on the other. FIX IT! lol Not really relevant to the post but... The way i go about the weight painting is by doing a rough painting first using Edit Envelopes, with Vertices selected, using the Shrink and Grow button and also using the Abs. Effect with the up and down arrows in Weight Properties (go up in 0.02's). The highest point in Abs Effect is 0.42 in my Template body, then i run the body through mesh rigger to tidy up my weights and then the highest point is 0.296. My Template body for mesh rigger has the pussy weights (and my custom breast/butt weights) on it, it hasn't got the vagina mesh. My Target body for mesh rigger has no pussy (or breast/butt) weights, but has the vagina mesh added with only the pelvis weights skinned to it. I let mesh rigger not only do the tiding up the of weights but also add the pussy weights to the vagina mesh, then do further tiding up any weights that have spread from the left side to right side (which isn't much) in 3ds, the re-export it, fix up nifs, test ingame, done.
noone5 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I can't see it anywhere so ask r there any armor overhauls in particular for this bod
Stevierage Posted March 20, 2015 Author Posted March 20, 2015 Small update. Still fine tuning my custom weighted body and hdt.xmls, but found a few things that will hopefully help the main download. First i think i found out why one side (or both) was always opened during idle and some sex anims, the mesh (i think and hope) needed to have the thigh bones included, as i had always removed those bones during clean up, so further testing to be absolutely sure. (I had removed them from the mesh as they didn't have much weights on the mesh and thought it would not affect it if removed, until i forgot to remove them on a test body and noticed the vagina remained closed instead of one side always open) Another was the textures for the vagina, mainly the coloring during different lighting effects/angles, i think i should have changed the Nifs 'Has Normals' from Yes to No. If you know your way around nifs maybe testing that out to see if you think its better, also if you use the un7b textures, you could scale down the UV in 'Edit UV' to fit those textures better. Some feed back would be grateful for the above, if someone has a better understanding about the texture/Nifs than me.
Skyeast Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 This is amazing, thnx so much for this. It's been a long wait to finally be able to do this in game.
Tepi Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Small update. Still fine tuning my custom weighted body and hdt.xmls, but found a few things that will hopefully help the main download. First i think i found out why one side (or both) was always opened during idle and some sex anims, the mesh (i think and hope) needed to have the thigh bones included, as i had always removed those bones during clean up, so further testing to be absolutely sure. (I had removed them from the mesh as they didn't have much weights on the mesh and thought it would not affect it if removed, until i forgot to remove them on a test body and noticed the vagina remained closed instead of one side always open) So just the mesh should fix the issue and not .xml? Because I've been trying to do so by editing the .xml and cant seem to get it fixed. Otherwise (with a little .xml tweaking) seems to work perfectly so thank you!
VonHelton Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Small update. Still fine tuning my custom weighted body and hdt.xmls, but found a few things that will hopefully help the main download. First i think i found out why one side (or both) was always opened during idle and some sex anims, the mesh (i think and hope) needed to have the thigh bones included, as i had always removed those bones during clean up, so further testing to be absolutely sure. (I had removed them from the mesh as they didn't have much weights on the mesh and thought it would not affect it if removed, until i forgot to remove them on a test body and noticed the vagina remained closed instead of one side always open) Another was the textures for the vagina, mainly the coloring during different lighting effects/angles, i think i should have changed the Nifs 'Has Normals' from Yes to No. If you know your way around nifs maybe testing that out to see if you think its better, also if you use the un7b textures, you could scale down the UV in 'Edit UV' to fit those textures better. Some feed back would be grateful for the above, if someone has a better understanding about the texture/Nifs than me. So we download 1.43 a & b again? ???? I can't see it anywhere so ask r there any armor overhauls in particular for this bod Sevenbase Body has tons of armor & clothes out there, and the UN7B body will wear UNPB BBP clothing & armor.
Stevierage Posted March 21, 2015 Author Posted March 21, 2015 So we download 1.43 a & b again? ???? Nope. So just the mesh should fix the issue and not .xml? Because I've been trying to do so by editing the .xml and cant seem to get it fixed. Otherwise (with a little .xml tweaking) seems to work perfectly so thank you! Ignore what i said above (though i think having the thigh bones included may help), but your right it is whats needed to be adjusted in the xml. First pic is the original settings, second is what i tried (can affect collisions, so other adjustments may need to be done) Adjust the Pivot B: X and Z data for both the left and the right pussy in constraints. Z: between -2.00000 and -3.00000 (-3.00000 is too much) X: try 0.00000, or go up or down in small segments (-0.10000 or 0.10000) The opening happens when the collisions are applied to the vagina. The vid/gif shows, when i loaded up Skyrim i had no collisions attached until i added the Havok Object. It moves up and opens and then sways with the body, but when i unequip the Object it stays opened but no swaying. Trying the small adjustments above might help make it look less opened when collisions are applied, but it could still sway and have an affect on the collisions with the schlong. I'm just guessing and most likely to be absolutely wrong, but could it have something to do with the skeleton??. (Groovtama will confirm no doubt ). Maybe the the genital bones are affecting the vagina since they are on the female skeleton??. The hdtm.xml is getting loaded with the female skeleton and is also colliding with the vagina since that is what its only meant to be colliding with??. HDT itself might be the problem?, the settings in the xmls??. Like i said i can only guess why it does that but maybe someone has a better understanding can help or if someone has made adjustments to the xml that prevents that opening and swaying but also not affect collisions and hopefully will post their edited xml.
cloakwerk Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Still would be nice if someone sat down to make a complete guide on how to set this up, outlining all the needed items and possible fixes.At least in some form. +1 or can someone upload a ready-to-install setup package? (body+texture+hdt files)
davidlolipop Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Still would be nice if someone sat down to make a complete guide on how to set this up, outlining all the needed items and possible fixes.At least in some form. +1 or can someone upload a ready-to-install setup package? (body+texture+hdt files) Yeah please something, the guides i have seen say go do stuff in photoshop, i have no idea what the hell they on about, i tried some textblending with the pngs and it turned out awful. Using the other vag (trepleen) and it works but looks pretty ugly...
TheTraveler Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Still would be nice if someone sat down to make a complete guide on how to set this up, outlining all the needed items and possible fixes.At least in some form. +1 or can someone upload a ready-to-install setup package? (body+texture+hdt files) I would be willing to test something like that on one of the myriad of standalone UNP based followers I have in my game.
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