Sexlab Aroused Redux December 05 2016

[Uncle64]

Thanks for the advice.

 

I used SaveTool.exe as recommended, but it does not appear to fix the problem.

So i'll guess i'll have to try the PDT tool, although i don't even know what it does yet.

 

 

Is there any conclusion that can be drawn from this:

When i disable all mods except for those needed for SLA (and SLA Monitor) and start a new game, but they are still not working.

 

As Fishburger67 says it is one difficult tool to use, I have used it many times.

Read all about it.

But it do save one backup for you.

 

 

[fishburger67]

 

 

...

 

Go to the Sex Slaves home page and scroll halfway down and find "Badly Behaving Mods"  for a list of heavy papyrus mods.  There is also a link to steam post of dangerous and outdated mods. for other bad guys.

 

Not in these lists are enhanced blood mods in general.  They add a pretty heavy load.

 

Do a google search for "Skyrim CTD on Save"  and read some of the information.  The most often given advise is to try cleaning your save with SaveTool.exe as PTD is you really want a thorough clean.

 

Check out Sacremas's thread for a stable mod load.

 

The most important bit of information that I can offer is the Sexlab Aroused and iNeed individually will not be the cause of your problem.

 

The mods listed, are they confirmed sources of CTD? Too bad

I like "Spectator Crowds"

Does the same warning applies to "Further Lover's Comfort"?

 

 

They don't cause CTDs in and of themselves.  They are just heavy papyrus users.  When you have too many, CTD time.  The ones listed (with the exception of Sexy Moves which is not tooo bad) have the weight of about 10 Aroused Redux.

 

So, they are not "confirmed sources of CTD".  They just dramatically add to the papyrus which when you combine say 3 of them or one or two and a couple of dozen other lighter mods, you get CTDs.

 

You see, Skyrim has 4 execution pipelines.  1 is used by the game engine.  The rest are used for graphics and papyrus scripts.  If you have 4 long winded papyrus scripts running and a 5th comes along and needs service, if it can't get an execution thread, you get a stack dump and/or CTD.

 

This is a very generic description from a guy who has never seen the source for Skyrim.  It is all hearsay.

 

[fishburger67]

 

 

I already tried disabling everything except for SexLab and then SexLab Aroused, but it still did not work.

(Reinstalling SLA or SLAR did not help either)

 

If you still think uninstalling everything is a better idea than rebuilding the data folder from scratch let me know.

 

 

You have papyrus overload.  That much is clear.  Sexlab and Aroused Redux will add almost no load to your game.  You issues lie elsewhere.

 

Check the mod lists on the Sex Slaves home page and get rid of any you cannot absolutely live without.  Use SOS light if you use SOS, etc.

 

As I have tried to explain, this is a papyrus load issue and you need to reduce the mod count that makes heavy papyrus use.  There is also a single armor mod known to cause CTDs as well as an older version of a popular skeleton.

 

[ButchDiavolo]

 

 

Now i have tried the basic problem solving methods of PDT as described, but the "removed unattached instances" method did not help and the "zero script pointers" created a savegame with several SexLab Mods not working at all.

 

I am close to giving up on this mod as i can't get it to work.

But it's sad, because that mod is the basis of so many interesting mods that i would like to try.

 

 

Would taking a vanilla data folder and procedually adding the SexLab Mods (and their requirements) first and everything else after that be of any use?

Because that would take a lot of time and constant testing of whether or not the newly added stuff works and whether the currently unusable SLA stuff is still usable after adding the other mods.

 

Hey Tuckr,

 

Before you do anything rash, like starting a new playthrough or reinstalling Skyrim, try to go back to basics (if you haven't already).

 

With this I mean:

Uninstall SL and ALL SL dependant mods and SOS (if you use that), preferably by using the options for the mods to uninstall or disabling in MCM.

Try to load a save and wait at least 5 minutes for all mods to end scripts etc. Use Save game cleaner to clear all references, scripts etc to SL, SOS etc)

(If  you can't load a save, use Save game cleaner to delete all instances of sexlab, SOS and other SL mods and make a backup as always in SGC).

Start Skyrim and see if it will load now. If it does, wait a few minutes and make a new "hard" save (NOT a quick save; quick saves and autosaves are EVIL!)

 

Install Sexlab and only sexlab. Load the save you made and let Sexlab do it's thing. When the MCM message shows up, wait at least 5 more minutes to be sure. Make another manual save.

Install Aroused and load the last save. See if Aroused will start now. (tip: opening an already installed MCM window will make new MCMs show up faster).

If Aroused works now: YAY!! start installing SOS and the other SL mods one by one. Save customizing SexLab til last, cos you may need to rebuild a few times.

if it doesn't work still, uninstall Aroused again and try redownloading it. And repeat the last steps.

 

 

I hope this works for you. Good luck!

 

- Moo.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the detailed description Vachnic!

I really appreciate it.

 

Unfortunately i doubt that this method will be significantly less time-consuming than redoing my mods from scratch, as i have every mod i ever downloaded stored (in a structured manner) in my download folder, but uninstalling the mods might take a lot of time as i installed most of them manually.

 

I already tried disabling everything except for SexLab and then SexLab Aroused, but it still did not work.

(Reinstalling SLA or SLAR did not help either)

 

If you still think uninstalling everything is a better idea than rebuilding the data folder from scratch let me know.

 

 

Installing mods manually is generally not a good idea, unless you really know what you are doing. It can cause quite a few issues and in that case be very difficult to find the problem. (Your trouble with SLAR perhaps being a case in point).

 

If you are going to do a new install, I would suggest using a mod manager like ModOrganizer or NMM. They make it easier to keep track of unwanted overwrites etc. Since you have backups of your mods, you wouldn't have to re-download them to use a mod manager. But, this is up to you really.

 

If you think reinstalling everything would be less time consuming, then you can always do that. But, again, to avoid problems down the line, I would suggest to start using a mod manager. I am not familiar with NMM (Nexus Mod Manager), so I can't really help you there, but if you decide to start using MO (ModOrganizer) there are many people who can help you, should you need help. A good start would be to read up on MO at STEP. Yes, it has a steep learning curve, but in the end it works a lot better than manual installs.

[Tuckr]

Thanks Vachnic and fishburger67,

 

I got everything working due to the MO and reinstalling every mod with that.

Well, almost.

SexLab and all that stuff is working and SexLab Aroused Redux is working except for that "Lover's Desire" Spell, which you should get if you enable that in the settings, right?

Because i did not get that spell. Disabling and re-enabling it still does not add that spell.

Or did i get something wrong on that?

 

(Btw: I wanted to make this a reply to both of you, but i did not want a huge block of quote in my post. I wanted to mark that as "Spoiler" to hide it, but was obviously to stupid to find it. Can somebody tell me how i do that?)

And Thanks again, you guys have been a great help.

[Slorm]

SexLab and all that stuff is working and SexLab Aroused Redux is working except for that "Lover's Desire" Spell, which you should get if you enable that in the settings, right?

Because i did not get that spell. Disabling and re-enabling it still does not add that spell.

Or did i get something wrong on that?

 

 

 

It's not a spell that you cast, its an effect that happens to you when you reach certain levels of arousal and slows down your learning by different percentages according on the level of arousal you are at.

 

I can't remember the exact figures but its something like 5% slower learning when arousal goes over 50 and something like 20% at 80.

 

[Tuckr]

 

SexLab and all that stuff is working and SexLab Aroused Redux is working except for that "Lover's Desire" Spell, which you should get if you enable that in the settings, right?

Because i did not get that spell. Disabling and re-enabling it still does not add that spell.

Or did i get something wrong on that?

 

 

 

It's not a spell that you cast, its an effect that happens to you when you reach certain levels of arousal and slows down your learning by different percentages according on the level of arousal you are at.

 

I can't remember the exact figures but its something like 5% slower learning when arousal goes over 50 and something like 20% at 80.

 

 

 

Thanks for the response,

 

I just figured that out, too.

Appearantly i was just confused by that being called "spell" in the settings.

 

[Old Book]

Before installing the beta, with SOS integration ticked on, my character was becoming erect as his arousal rose. With Beta 18, despite being checked on, SOS integration with this character seems to be broken. It could easily be a problem with my install or save, but it may be worth checking.

[ButchDiavolo]

Thanks Vachnic and fishburger67,

 

I got everything working due to the MO and reinstalling every mod with that.

Well, almost.

SexLab and all that stuff is working and SexLab Aroused Redux is working except for that "Lover's Desire" Spell, which you should get if you enable that in the settings, right?

Because i did not get that spell. Disabling and re-enabling it still does not add that spell.

Or did i get something wrong on that?

 

(Btw: I wanted to make this a reply to both of you, but i did not want a huge block of quote in my post. I wanted to mark that as "Spoiler" to hide it, but was obviously to stupid to find it. Can somebody tell me how i do that?)

 

And Thanks again, you guys have been a great help.

 

You are most welcome. And you can use spoilers by typing [ spoiler] at the beginning and [ /spoiler] at the end of the block of text. Without the spaces of course. I had to add the spaces otherwise it would have become...

a spoiler

 

[Tuckr]

 

 

 

You are most welcome. And you can use spoilers by typing [ spoiler] at the beginning and [ /spoiler] at the end of the block of text. Without the spaces of course. I had to add the spaces otherwise it would have become...

a spoiler

 

 

 

Thanks again Vachnic

 

[fishburger67]

Before installing the beta, with SOS integration ticked on, my character was becoming erect as his arousal rose. With Beta 18, despite being checked on, SOS integration with this character seems to be broken. It could easily be a problem with my install or save, but it may be worth checking.

 

Made zero changes to the sos code.  The only change was to comment out the check for LOS and add the functionality for cleaning the StorageUtil records out.

[Old Book]

 

Before installing the beta, with SOS integration ticked on, my character was becoming erect as his arousal rose. With Beta 18, despite being checked on, SOS integration with this character seems to be broken. It could easily be a problem with my install or save, but it may be worth checking.

 

Made zero changes to the sos code.  The only change was to comment out the check for LOS and add the functionality for cleaning the StorageUtil records out.

 

Still trying to check it out. Tried going back to v17 and that didn't fix the problem. Should have done so before posting, so my apologies for that.

[WaxenFigure]

 

Before installing the beta, with SOS integration ticked on, my character was becoming erect as his arousal rose. With Beta 18, despite being checked on, SOS integration with this character seems to be broken. It could easily be a problem with my install or save, but it may be worth checking.

 

Made zero changes to the sos code.  The only change was to comment out the check for LOS and add the functionality for cleaning the StorageUtil records out.

 

 

Testing it here, had to reduce the time scale cause after having had a slave collar added by Devious Devices she had to have sex 45 times over 10 days to get it to come off so her speed of getting aroused got pretty high.

 

Working well for me so far.   Next version though, it's probably time to clean the mod of the original code and parts that are no longer used.  You've proved it works and it works better so that code will not and should not be needed any more.

[wabi-sabi]

The unstable mod list and the pages your referenced... I... I did not know they existed!!!!

 

... wow.

 

So than rather than mod conflict per se, iNeed (along with Wet and Cold and Frostfall) are just script heavy mods causing me issues. That's too bad.

[kichigaikikyokagome]

I need some help. I have skimmed through this forum but I didn't find a fix for my exact problem (forgive me if I missed it). 

 

 

[08/17/2015 - 04:35:27AM] VM is freezing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:35:27AM] VM is frozen

[08/17/2015 - 04:35:28AM] Saving game...

[08/17/2015 - 04:35:37AM] VM is thawing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:03AM] slaScanner start time is ....472.085999

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:03AM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (13042D62)>] Getting actors for 2 and locked = False

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:03AM] Locking for 2 at position 0

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:03AM] Found 6 arousedActors

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:04AM] Found 1 nakedActors

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] slaScanner After getting actors is ....473.718994, player is naked False

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] Unlocking

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] UnLocking for 2 at position 0

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (13042D62)>]Unlocking scanner

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] slaScanner end time is ....473.842010

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] Next update in 120.000000

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:28AM] VM is freezing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:28AM] VM is frozen

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:29AM] Saving game...

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:38AM] VM is thawing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:20AM] VM is freezing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:20AM] VM is frozen

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:21AM] Saving game...

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:30AM] VM is thawing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:40AM] slaScanner start time is ....629.666992

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:40AM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (13042D62)>] Getting actors for 2 and locked = False

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:40AM] Locking for 2 at position 0

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:41AM] Found 5 arousedActors

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:41AM] Found 0 nakedActors

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] slaScanner After getting actors is ....631.161011, player is naked False

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] Unlocking

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] UnLocking for 2 at position 0

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (13042D62)>]Unlocking scanner

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] slaScanner end time is ....631.179016

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] Next update in 120.000000

 

Then CTD. In this case, I was attempting to put an Ice Wolf trophy in my hearthfires house. As the screen faded out to reload the interior of the house, it CTD. But I have had the same CTD from exiting an interior cell (Fellglow Keep I believe) and maybe a couple other times. 

 

In an attempt to fix this, I updated to v17 from v16 loose, following the instructions. There were no pex files since I installed "v16 loose" with NMM. I turned off the cloak spell before uninstalling, then installed v17. In game, I waited for a message about Arousal being ready, but nothing popped up. In MCM I re-activated the cloak spell, and still nothing happened. And I am still getting the same error:

 

Recently, I uninstalled Creature Framework and JContainers papyrus expansion for Creature Framework. I've also recently uninstalled SexlLab Werewolves because it wasn't working properly.  I am not sure if this is related, but it is suspect.

 

Also, even more recently I've been having a problem where I can't mine ore; no anim happens, I just stand there. It works if I equip the pickaxe and manually "attack" the vein. May be unrelated also. I tried uninstalling "faster mining or more ore" and that didn't help. I wonder if its related to Enhanced Camera, and if all of these things are related to anims being broken? (That is a stretch)

 

I hadn't had any of these problems until the last couple days. I am trying to think what all might have caused it. 

 

Any suggestions besides uninstalling every SexLab plugin, uninstalling SexLab and SoS, and reinstalling them?

 

Is there something I should do with Script Cleaner?

 

EDIT:

Script Cleaner didn't help. The mining bug is due to Dragonborn DLC and is unrelated. Uninstalling creature framework & jcontainers may have contributed to the problem, but reinstalling did not fix.

 

In the end, I just uninstalled all sexlab related plugins & sexlab framework, SoS, etc, and reinstalled. Seems to be working for now! 

[fishburger67]

The unstable mod list and the pages your referenced... I... I did not know they existed!!!!

 

... wow.

 

So than rather than mod conflict per se, iNeed (along with Wet and Cold and Frostfall) are just script heavy mods causing me issues. That's too bad.

 

Yes, I agree, it is too bad.  Most of these mods could be written to use the game engine instead of papyrus to do most of what they do without overloading the papyrus engine.

 

With any luck, we'll have a new Elder Scrolls this coming year and Beth will make this all a little more robust.

 

I need some help. I have skimmed through this forum but I didn't find a fix for my exact problem (forgive me if I missed it). 

 

 

[08/17/2015 - 04:35:27AM] VM is freezing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:35:27AM] VM is frozen

[08/17/2015 - 04:35:28AM] Saving game...

[08/17/2015 - 04:35:37AM] VM is thawing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:03AM] slaScanner start time is ....472.085999

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:03AM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (13042D62)>] Getting actors for 2 and locked = False

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:03AM] Locking for 2 at position 0

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:03AM] Found 6 arousedActors

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:04AM] Found 1 nakedActors

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] slaScanner After getting actors is ....473.718994, player is naked False

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] Unlocking

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] UnLocking for 2 at position 0

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (13042D62)>]Unlocking scanner

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] slaScanner end time is ....473.842010

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:05AM] Next update in 120.000000

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:28AM] VM is freezing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:28AM] VM is frozen

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:29AM] Saving game...

[08/17/2015 - 04:36:38AM] VM is thawing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:20AM] VM is freezing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:20AM] VM is frozen

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:21AM] Saving game...

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:30AM] VM is thawing...

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:40AM] slaScanner start time is ....629.666992

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:40AM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (13042D62)>] Getting actors for 2 and locked = False

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:40AM] Locking for 2 at position 0

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:41AM] Found 5 arousedActors

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:41AM] Found 0 nakedActors

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] slaScanner After getting actors is ....631.161011, player is naked False

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] Unlocking

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] UnLocking for 2 at position 0

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (13042D62)>]Unlocking scanner

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] slaScanner end time is ....631.179016

[08/17/2015 - 04:38:42AM] Next update in 120.000000

 

Then CTD. In this case, I was attempting to put an Ice Wolf trophy in my hearthfires house. As the screen faded out to reload the interior of the house, it CTD. But I have had the same CTD from exiting an interior cell (Fellglow Keep I believe) and maybe a couple other times. 

 

In an attempt to fix this, I updated to v17 from v16 loose, following the instructions. There were no pex files since I installed "v16 loose" with NMM. I turned off the cloak spell before uninstalling, then installed v17. In game, I waited for a message about Arousal being ready, but nothing popped up. In MCM I re-activated the cloak spell, and still nothing happened. And I am still getting the same error:

 

Recently, I uninstalled Creature Framework and JContainers papyrus expansion for Creature Framework. I've also recently uninstalled SexlLab Werewolves because it wasn't working properly.  I am not sure if this is related, but it is suspect.

 

Also, even more recently I've been having a problem where I can't mine ore; no anim happens, I just stand there. It works if I equip the pickaxe and manually "attack" the vein. May be unrelated also. I tried uninstalling "faster mining or more ore" and that didn't help. I wonder if its related to Enhanced Camera, and if all of these things are related to anims being broken? (That is a stretch)

 

I hadn't had any of these problems until the last couple days. I am trying to think what all might have caused it. 

 

Any suggestions besides uninstalling every SexLab plugin, uninstalling SexLab and SoS, and reinstalling them?

 

Is there something I should do with Script Cleaner?

 

 

Like most users with similar problems, you broke the cardinal rule of modding.  NEVER UNINSTALL A SCRIPTED MOD.  It almost always cannot be done cleanly without a lot of work.  What you should be doing is making a save before installing a prospective mod, try it to see if you like it for a while and if not, go back to the save before you installed it.  That is the only way this can be done successfully with 100% success.

 

Also, do not overload you game with too many script heavy mods.  Evaluate your mod load and determine what you cannot live without and dump the rest.

 

In you case, the horse is already out of the barn.  Step 1 for you will be to evaluate your mod load and dump everything you cannot live without.

 

Then, run your game through SaveTool.exe "Fix all #" and "Fix Instances". 

 

Then, run FNIS again.

 

Then, run your game for a bit, save and then exit and then clean that save too.

 

Then, turn on papyrus logging and run your game for a while, exit and look at the resulting log.  If it still has lots of missing assets and the like, you will need to learn how to use PDT, (google skyrim nexus PDT) and use it to clean up as many of the errors that you can.

 

Hopefully after several go-arounds with this, you will have a stable game.  If not, your only choice will be to start a new game.

 

Check out Sacremas's modding guide for more information on getting a stable game.

 

 

 

[lobof]

hi i'm running sar "no issues" and great mod but i was wondering i have a mcm called slave girls but i'm not running slave girls (never had it)

would that be maybe from sexslaves (i don't have that either) it causes no issues just trying to track where it's from and what it"s supposed to do

thanks

[check]

this might seems like a odd request, but would it be possible to make it so arousal on both PC and NPC drops by 50% or something instead of dropping it straight to 0?

 

(better yet, a configurable slider)

[fishburger67]

hi i'm running sar "no issues" and great mod but i was wondering i have a mcm called slave girls but i'm not running slave girls (never had it)

would that be maybe from sexslaves (i don't have that either) it causes no issues just trying to track where it's from and what it"s supposed to do

thanks

 

No clue on the mcm.  Not part of Sex Slaves or Aroused.

 

You must have something installed that you didn't expect.

this might seems like a odd request, but would it be possible to make it so arousal on both PC and NPC drops by 50% or something instead of dropping it straight to 0?

 

(better yet, a configurable slider)

 

Aroused is used by most of the mods on Lovers Lab and it would not be possible to change its core functionality.

[lobof]

thanks for the timely reply i'll keep looking just has me baffled as to where it's from :-)

[mangalo]

The localized strings don't seem to work, all I see are variables names in the MCM and notifications...

[fishburger67]

The localized strings don't seem to work, all I see are variables names in the MCM and notifications...

 

Foreign language files have not been updated.  Which language and would you care to do the translations for your language?

[Sailing Rebel]

 

The localized strings don't seem to work, all I see are variables names in the MCM and notifications...

 

Foreign language files have not been updated.  Which language and would you care to do the translations for your language?

 

MCM doesn't support fall back for localisation so the recommendation is to copy the English translation to all the other files until a translation becomes available. That way you can avoid some users seeing $Substitution_Strings.

[fishburger67]

 

 

The localized strings don't seem to work, all I see are variables names in the MCM and notifications...

 

Foreign language files have not been updated.  Which language and would you care to do the translations for your language?

 

MCM doesn't support fall back for localisation so the recommendation is to copy the English translation to all the other files until a translation becomes available. That way you can avoid some users seeing $Substitution_Strings.

 

 

Thanks, I'll do that for the next release

 

[mangalo]

 

 

The localized strings don't seem to work, all I see are variables names in the MCM and notifications...

 

Foreign language files have not been updated.  Which language and would you care to do the translations for your language?

 

MCM doesn't support fall back for localisation so the recommendation is to copy the English translation to all the other files until a translation becomes available. That way you can avoid some users seeing $Substitution_Strings.

 

 

Those "fake" translation files already exist in the mod directory, but oddly those $word still appear (when english should appear).  At first, I thought the translation files could have been wrongly named, so I tried to match the syntax of the english filename but nothing changed (maybe it's an internal error, I don't know anything about that stuff ).

 

I play in French, as for translating it, sure, I'd be glad to lend a hand.