block2001 Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 Hiya so I finally decided to use sexlabs as I wanted a more "immersive" experience in my gameplay. so I installed it following all the instruction and started playing. I loved it!! it is definetly much better than i had anticipated so i played for an hour or so saving every 5-10 mins or so. Anyways I exited the game and went and did other things , So I come back and try to load up my save and...CTD!!! every save that I j=had made with Sexlabs installed resulted in an instant CTD, So I though maybe a simple mod conflict or something so I used BOSS to fix the load order and went back to each download page to make sure i was folllowing instructions. I started a brand new game to avoid any future issues saved and exited and then tried to load the save again....CTD. I then assumed that one of the mods downloaded were corrupted so i started activating and deactivating sexlab mods , saving and reloaded savegames to see when was the savegame not corrupted. the only time that it was not corrupted was when I only had Sexlabs 1,15b loaded on its own but of course I cant have sex with just that as far as I know, anyways when one or more sexlab plugins are loaded the save game becomes corrupted. Guys any help would be nice as I really want to play with these mods. Heres my Load order; Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.4a] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.4] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.4] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.4a] 09 Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm 0A ApachiiHairMales.esm 0B EFFCore.esm 0C RSkyrimChildren.esm 0D Omegared99-Compilation.esm 0E ApachiiHairFemales.esm 0F JSwords.esm 10 hdtHighHeel.esm 11 TERAArmors.esm 12 SMSkyrim.esp [Version 4.0.8] 13 ApachiiHair.esm 14 MFVM.esm 15 phiNoFF.esm 16 RaceCompatibility.esm 17 SexLab.esm [Version 1.59b] 18 BeeingFemale.esm [Version 1.14] 19 SexLabAroused.esm 1A SkyMoMod.esm 1B AP Skyrim.esm 1C moonpath.esm 1D LevelersTower.esm 1E daymoyl.esm 1F SPIKE.esm 20 TurnDownXrace.esm 21 JackshShop.esm 22 TouringCarriages.esp 23 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 1.0.9] 24 AK- Placeable Statics.esp 25 Character Creation Overhaul.esp 26 Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp 27 WetandCold.esp 28 altvamplord.esp 29 BardSoundsMalukah.esp 2A donorcollegejoin.esp 2B Bounty Gold.esp [Version 1.0] 2C BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp 2D Animated Dragon Wings.esp 2E Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 2F RaceMenuPlugin.esp 30 chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp 31 Command Dragon.esp 32 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 33 DeadlyMonsters.esp 34 Convenient Horses.esp 35 UIExtensions.esp 36 CrimeDecay.esp 37 Headtracking.esp 38 Brawl Bugs CE.esp 39 Followers_StealthKills.esp 3A EnchantedArsenal.esp [Version 2.23] 3B MisceleneousMerged 7.esp 3C EmpoweredMagic AIO.esp 3D AK- Placeable Statics - Hearthfire.esp 3E 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.06] 3F Naruto - Overhaul.esp 40 Life In Prison.esp 41 ArmorsandWeaponsMerged3.esp 42 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp [Version 3.4] 43 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp 44 RaceMenu.esp 45 HDT HairPack V1.esp 46 HeartBreaker.esp [Version 3.2] 47 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 48 zzzIchaLove.esp 49 iHUD.esp ++ Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp 4A FNISSexyMove.esp 4B LPBards.esp 4C Matera.esp ++ WerewolvesSpawn.esp 4D WetandCold - Ashes.esp 4E MixedUnitTactics.esp 4F SkyUI.esp 50 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp 51 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 52 Customizable Camera.esp 53 TimingIsEverything.esp 54 AlmostEveryoneIsAnAdventurer.esp [Version 1.1] 55 PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp 56 Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp 57 Project Ultimatum.esp 58 Reanimate FX.esp 59 Helgen Reborn.esp [Version 105.2] 5A LC_BecomeJarlofIvarstead.esp 5B FantasySoundtrackProject.esp 5C Aurora - The Doomstone Package.esp 5D Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp 5E DwemerColosseum.esp 5F Sommnkatana.esp 60 Better Vampires ML.esp 61 Supernatural AI - Vampires & Monsters.esp 62 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 63 SkyXP.esp 64 Spells and Magic 2.esp 65 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 66 Civil War Overhaul.esp 67 TEG_Wizards_Of_Winterhold_DLCRequired.esp 68 JobsofSkyrim.esp 69 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp [Version 4.3] 6A Thanatos Dragonx.esp 6B Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 6C sjel blad castle.esp 6D DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp 6E TradeRoutes.esp [Version 1.1] ++ LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp ++ DeadlyArrowsXtraDG.esp 6F jutsu.esp 70 TradeBarter.esp ++ RichMerchants.esp 71 UchihaClan.esp 72 Uncapped Perks - Combat + Stealth.esp 73 10 extra effect.esp 74 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 75 DA_Skyship.esp 76 Hunting in Skyrim.esp 77 WetandCold - Holidays.esp 78 LC_CastleInvasion.esp 79 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp 7A AI Overhaul.esp 7B EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 7C EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp 7D TEG_HouseRedoran.esp 7E Nightingale Hall.esp 7F TEG_DarkLoreGrimoire.esp 80 OMageReplacerPack.esp 81 OpulentMageUSKPReplacerPatch.esp 82 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 83 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 84 EFFDialogue.esp 85 Sara.esp 86 Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp 87 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.2] 88 TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp 89 BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 8A Duel - Combat Realism.esp 8B UltimateCombat.esp 8C moonpath_questdata.esp 8D JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp 8E Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.5] 8F VariousGuardReplacer.esp ++ CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 90 TEG_TelvanniHall.esp 91 MFVM_EFF_Patch.esp 92 DovahkriidGrenzganger.esp 93 CerwidenCompanion.esp 94 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 95 DeadlyDragons.esp 96 ERSO Nightmare Dragons Merged.esp 97 Purewaters.esp 98 RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp 99 Chesko_Frostfall.esp 9A quest_pitfighter.esp 9B CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp 9C TobiPack.esp 9D Midas Magic Expanded.esp 9E psikoticsnecromancy.esp 9F Vampirelordroyal.esp A0 ESFCompanions.esp [Version 0.3.7] A1 BetaWeaponsMerged4.esp A2 MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp A3 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp A4 Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix - Chameleon Version.esp A5 StrongVampireLord.esp A6 BVMLandRB_Formlist.esp A7 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 2.0.2] A8 vSCM_SmarterCombatMusic.esp A9 wizDynamicThings.esp AA WorldEaterBeater.esp AB SofiaFollower.esp AC Better Companions.esp AD kankaraya.esp AE CompanionsMergedBeta.esp AF Sophia_follower.esp B0 Resplendent - The Races Package.esp B1 UD_Serana.esp B2 Midna.esp B3 Nature of the beast.esp B4 bleach.esp B5 OrientalRace.esp B6 Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp B7 Predator Vision.esp B8 Soul Eater The Enchantment Removing Chest.esp B9 HTBWigsApachiiSkyHair.esp BA SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp BB BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp BC WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp BD TheMadMasker.esp BE CompanionArissa.esp BF RavenFollowerBSAedit.esp C0 Sneak Tools.esp C1 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp C2 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp C3 SpousesEnhanced.esp C4 AV1Dragon_Lords.esp C5 DovahkiinSpeech.esp C6 GuildStarter.esp C7 DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp C8 TemptressVixen.esp C9 BTRH_Tomoe.esp CA Natalie - Healer Follower.esp CB SexLab Romance.esp CC UltimateDragons.esp CD VioLens.esp CE Kate.esp CF P1FlyingRing.esp D0 dwarven war cross bow.esp D1 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp D2 Viconia.esp D3 Natalie - Healer Follower - Look 04.esp D4 Lilium_Companion.esp D5 MercenariesPlus.esp D6 DarkKnightPaladin.esp D7 TestDarkKnight.esp D8 WerewolfMastery.esp ++ WerewolfMastery - Mighty Beasts.esp D9 Saber.esp DA ApprenticeOfThuum.esp DB DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp DC Equipping Overhaul.esp DD vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp DE LustmordVampireArmor.esp DF Poet.esp E0 Soulmaster Unlimited.esp E1 dovahkiinrelax.esp E2 Siege Bow & Backpacks.esp E3 ForgeMenuOverhaul.esp E4 _admod.esp E5 SpecialEventsOfTamriel.esp E6 Tsukuyomi.esp E7 quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp E8 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.5.2] E9 SMSkyrim Merged Patch.esp EA Bashed Patch, 0.esp EB Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Better Looking Npc's Merged.esp EC RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp ED Brotherhood People.esp EE RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp EF SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp F0 SBF All In One + DLC.esp F1 Better Looking Npc's Merged.esp
ButchDiavolo Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Hi Block, 2 questions/ remarks for you: 1. Do you use Mod Organizer? 2. I see that you use Racemenu. In my experience (which may be flawed) ever since I started using Racemenu, I get a CTD when I start a saved game/ continue a game. Then when I look in Mod Organizer's overwrite thingy, I see there are meshes to be gotten rid off. (I made a special "mod" in MO to put those meshes in). Then when I load/ continue a game, it loads properly and no issues. I am not saying this is your problem as well, but maybe something to look into? so it isn't neccessarily Sexlab or a SL mod that is doing this.
afz53fu Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Might as well delete animated prostitution. Once upon a time it conflicted with sexlab, may have been fixed though. But really sexlab includes the animations from AP. You have dudestia multi marriage are you also running Spouses Enhanced? If you have more than one spouse that combination will screw things up. Even with your merged patches You seem to have an awful lot of mods active, consider removing ones you don't actually use. I find myself needing to purge mods about every 8 months. Ditch BOSS and upgrade to LOOT (aka BOSS 3.0)
block2001 Posted September 25, 2014 Author Posted September 25, 2014 Hi Block, 2 questions/ remarks for you: 1. Do you use Mod Organizer? 2. I see that you use Racemenu. In my experience (which may be flawed) ever since I started using Racemenu, I get a CTD when I start a saved game/ continue a game. Then when I look in Mod Organizer's overwrite thingy, I see there are meshes to be gotten rid off. (I made a special "mod" in MO to put those meshes in). Then when I load/ continue a game, it loads properly and no issues. I am not saying this is your problem as well, but maybe something to look into? so it isn't neccessarily Sexlab or a SL mod that is doing this. Hey Vachinic, 1. No I do not use mod organizer, I tend to manually install my mods for the most part. 2. I don't think that it is Racemenu as I have been using it for a long time and havent had any problems prior to using Sexlabs. Might as well delete animated prostitution. Once upon a time it conflicted with sexlab, may have been fixed though. But really sexlab includes the animations from AP. You have dudestia multi marriage are you also running Spouses Enhanced? If you have more than one spouse that combination will screw things up. Even with your merged patches You seem to have an awful lot of mods active, consider removing ones you don't actually use. I find myself needing to purge mods about every 8 months. Ditch BOSS and upgrade to LOOT (aka BOSS 3.0) Well that is true that I dont really need animated prostitution when i have sexlab running of course thats if i can get it to work lol. Also removed multi marriage, I actually forgot i had that lol. I agree its quite an extensive load order but suprisingly i havent had any substantial issues with it, of course purging mods is the hardest thing to do lol. Its pretty frustrating that I cant run any sexlab mods without corrupting my saves, If i only have the sexlab.esm its fine but the moment I add any mod that requires sexlab.esm my saves get corrupted, I honestly cannot figure this out , its really frustrating.
Ashal Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 A CTD when loading a save does not mean the save is corrupted. You'll know when a save is corrupted because it will flat out tell you "This save is corrupted" Crashing when loading a save usually means a badly installed or uninstalled mod causing some compatibility/dependency problem OR it means absolutely nothing at all and simply retrying to load the save without changing anything all and it will work fine. Either way the thing to do would be to post a debug log to know more, which the 3 pinned threads practically yelling at you/everyone to do so when posting says repeatedly.
Ed86 Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 1. No I do not use mod organizer, I tend to manually install my mods for the most part. THIS, you are asking for CTDs stop using mods or get mod manager
shadow866 Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 You can always try to create a new fresh save in a area like Alternate start. Then from that save load your old saves. Sometimes its just to much for skyrim to load, causing it to crash. So giving Skyrim a chance to load everything on a fresh save takes some load off skyrim. That usally works for me.
Buddy Christ Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 You can always try to create a new fresh save in a area like Alternate start. Then from that save load your old saves. Sometimes its just to much for skyrim to load, causing it to crash. So giving Skyrim a chance to load everything on a fresh save takes some load off skyrim. That usally works for me. This! I always keep at least one "Abandoned Prison" save with Alternate start. I always load that one first, when entering a game. After that, I load the last save. Heavy Script load seems to make Skyrim crash on loading first.
Ed86 Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 use to avoid CTD at save load http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/?
D_ManXX2 Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 loading save game and it crashes, is actually skyrim itself crapping out. Does not mean the save game is corrupt it was you would not even be able to load that game anymore it would flat out tell you your save s corrupt. load and crash usually is result when too many mods is loaded at the same time especially scripted once, and papyrus is not able to keep up anymore. To many texture would only result infinite loading screen. just keep a clean save game handy preferably inside a building and keep it handy every time you need to load skyrim load that one first and then the latest save game that would normally crash and the game would load normally again. This game was actually never really optimized to work with so many mods at once. Blame Bethesda. for this.
matekun Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 use to avoid CTD at save load http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/? That's not enough,at least not for me. Safetyload,SSME,EnBoost and whatever miraculous .ini changes I find online and still my recent saves crash at loading. Only solution is what shadow866 said,always keep your first savegame. Funny thing is I don't recall having this problem until some months ago,and I never have more than 50 mods at the same time.Well,something to live with I guess...
Sailing Rebel Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 I've long suspected that crash-on-load is a symptom of multiple scripts all firing at the same time (cell scanning, cloak spells, etc) while the game is still in the process of loading assets. Evidence in favour of this is that save load CTDs seem to be much less common when loading into a small cell and much more common when loading into the open world. And reloading from quick saves seems unaffected since the assets are already loaded at that stage. Also it's something not seen as often in the vanilla game (or a game that is less script-heavy). It should be noted that the number of mods it not so important here as what those mods are doing while the game is trying to load. Just a hypothesis, not thoroughly tested. As mentioned above, loading an earlier save first can allow the game to do some caching and leave more room for scripts to do their work. If an earlier save file is not an option, using coc whiterun in the console from the main menu will have the same effect. A troublesome save can then be loaded from the escape menu as soon as it's available. In fact I've found this methof to be more reliable than using existing saves.
CliftonJD Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 1. No I do not use mod organizer, I tend to manually install my mods for the most part. THIS, you are asking for CTDs stop using mods or get mod manager i manually installed mods and organized them myself as well for months including sexlab mods, heavily scripted with heavy dependencies would still be ding that today if my ssd didn't burn out and lose everything forcing me to redo that entire list from scratch You can always try to create a new fresh save in a area like Alternate start. Then from that save load your old saves. Sometimes its just to much for skyrim to load, causing it to crash. So giving Skyrim a chance to load everything on a fresh save takes some load off skyrim. That usally works for me. This! I always keep at least one "Abandoned Prison" save with Alternate start. I always load that one first, when entering a game. After that, I load the last save. Heavy Script load seems to make Skyrim crash on loading first. This is my method as well, along with a number of others use to avoid CTD at save load http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/? That's not enough,at least not for me. Safetyload,SSME,EnBoost and whatever miraculous .ini changes I find online and still my recent saves crash at loading. Only solution is what shadow866 said,always keep your first savegame. Funny thing is I don't recall having this problem until some months ago,and I never have more than 50 mods at the same time.Well,something to live with I guess... number of mods isn't affecting your issue so much as the enb the save - load issue could be summarized as too much to load at once in a 32-bit game engine, basically its a memory issue loading another game first is less strenuous, because its not the total memory usage thats an issue, but the amount to be allocated at a given time and enb will affect this as much as script burden: for everything loaded into video, an equal amount must also load into memory if this were any other crash then a save-load from start-up i'd ask for a pap log
Bad Dog Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Something I am seeing a lot is that if I try to load my most recent save, i get a CTD. If I load an old save, it's fine. If I load the old save, then load the latest save without exiting the game, it's ALSO fine. I can then save my new progress and it's a crap shoot whether I can run that save or have to do the little dance again.
block2001 Posted October 1, 2014 Author Posted October 1, 2014 It seems removing a lot of my script heavy mods like frostfall and wet and cold and starting a fresh game allowed my saves to load. I guess it was an issue of too many scripts trying to run and by throwing sexlabs into the mix Skyrim just crapped out on me, thanks for the support eveyone
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