jbezorg Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Might want to use RegisterForSingleUpdate. If papryus begins to lag the calls to the OnUpdate event can begin to stack up compounding papryus lag, causing more calls to the OnUpdate event to stack up... In MilkQUEST.psc Event OnUpdate() if MilkPoll > 24 ActorCheck(1) else UnRegisterForUpdate() GetCurrentHourOfDay() RegisterForUpdateGameTime(MilkPoll) endif EndEvent Event OnUpdateGameTime() if MilkPoll <= 24 Utility.Wait( 5.0 ) GetCurrentHourOfDay() else UnRegisterForUpdateGameTime() RegisterForUpdate(MilkPoll) ActorCheck(1) endif EndEvent
Ed86 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Posted July 23, 2015 Might want to use RegisterForSingleUpdate. If papryus begins to lag the calls to the OnUpdate event can begin to stack up compounding papryus lag, causing more calls to the OnUpdate event to stack up... In MilkQUEST.psc Event OnUpdate() if MilkPoll > 24 ActorCheck(1) else UnRegisterForUpdate() GetCurrentHourOfDay() RegisterForUpdateGameTime(MilkPoll) endif EndEvent Event OnUpdateGameTime() if MilkPoll <= 24 Utility.Wait( 5.0 ) GetCurrentHourOfDay() else UnRegisterForUpdateGameTime() RegisterForUpdate(MilkPoll) ActorCheck(1) endif EndEvent well that was working for a year w/o problems, anyway it was replaced with RegisterForSingleUpdate in latest version Event OnUpdate() if MilkPoll > 24 RegisterForSingleUpdate(MilkPoll) ActorCheck(1) else RegisterForSingleUpdateGameTime (MilkPoll) GetCurrentHourOfDay() endif EndEvent Event OnUpdateGameTime() if MilkPoll <= 24 RegisterForSingleUpdateGameTime (MilkPoll) Utility.Wait( 5.0 ) GetCurrentHourOfDay() else RegisterForSingleUpdate(MilkPoll) ActorCheck(1) endif EndEvent
microdd Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Hello Just got back to Skyrim a few days ago to try some new updates of several mods, while I'm at it, a really annoying problem happened. The game freezes and stops responding whenever the in-game time changes, either it's fast travel (I can reach the town, and immediately got frozen), or time wait, or sleep I suppose. The changes I made after coming back to Skyrim were: MME new update, Dangerous Night updaate, RP 3.0, and installed Tamriel Reload HD. Now I can confirm it has nothing to do with Tamiel Reload or Dangerous Night, since the first few game play with these two were fine, I slept in-game to test DN, there was some problem with the attacker showed up and doing nothing though, but the game was running nonetheless. Today I tried again and the freezes happened, I firstly thought it might be TR HD causing it since it might take too much RAM that my laptop cannot with stand, so I removed it and retweak Skyrim.ini back to default. But the problem stayed. So I checked papyrus log and found massive lines aboutand MME, which I guess could be the cause. So here I attach the log and hopefully someone can help me with the problem. Much appreciate. Papyrus.0.log
Ed86 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Posted July 23, 2015 Hello Just got back to Skyrim a few days ago to try some new updates of several mods, while I'm at it, a really annoying problem happened. The game freezes and stops responding whenever the in-game time changes, either it's fast travel (I can reach the town, and immediately got frozen), or time wait, or sleep I suppose. The changes I made after coming back to Skyrim were: MME new update, Dangerous Night updaate, RP 3.0, and installed Tamriel Reload HD. Now I can confirm it has nothing to do with Tamiel Reload or Dangerous Night, since the first few game play with these two were fine, I slept in-game to test DN, there was some problem with the attacker showed up and doing nothing though, but the game was running nonetheless. Today I tried again and the freezes happened, I firstly thought it might be TR HD causing it since it might take too much RAM that my laptop cannot with stand, so I removed it and retweak Skyrim.ini back to default. But the problem stayed. So I checked papyrus log and found massive lines aboutand MME, which I guess could be the cause. So here I attach the log and hopefully someone can help me with the problem. Much appreciate. oh i know... you are one of those types... RTFM well since im a nice person(or not xD), there is a changelog entry that says: Requires: Cleansave
microdd Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Hello Just got back to Skyrim a few days ago to try some new updates of several mods, while I'm at it, a really annoying problem happened. The game freezes and stops responding whenever the in-game time changes, either it's fast travel (I can reach the town, and immediately got frozen), or time wait, or sleep I suppose. The changes I made after coming back to Skyrim were: MME new update, Dangerous Night updaate, RP 3.0, and installed Tamriel Reload HD. Now I can confirm it has nothing to do with Tamiel Reload or Dangerous Night, since the first few game play with these two were fine, I slept in-game to test DN, there was some problem with the attacker showed up and doing nothing though, but the game was running nonetheless. Today I tried again and the freezes happened, I firstly thought it might be TR HD causing it since it might take too much RAM that my laptop cannot with stand, so I removed it and retweak Skyrim.ini back to default. But the problem stayed. So I checked papyrus log and found massive lines aboutand MME, which I guess could be the cause. So here I attach the log and hopefully someone can help me with the problem. Much appreciate. oh i know... you are one of those types... RTFM well since im a nice person(or not xD), there is a changelog entry that says: Requires: Cleansave I did make clean save. With Save game cleaner v2.04. And just before reply this, I tried to start a new char with MME, RP 3.0 and it worked just fine, nothing changed to MME what so ever, it stayed the same as the frozen save.
Monoman1 Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Turning off buffs and debuffs helped my crashes. If I start crashing on save I'll do player.kill after a load then I can save just fine afterwords. Seems a script gets stuck that doesn't get unstuck til the player dies sometimes. The player.kill thing seems to work for me too. Haven't tried the buffs/debuffs yet. Load safe save (abandoned prison). Load save just before 'ctd on save' problem started. Player.kill. Load the same save again. Save. No problem. My character is also not a milk maid at this point.
Shadowscale Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Hello Just got back to Skyrim a few days ago to try some new updates of several mods, while I'm at it, a really annoying problem happened. The game freezes and stops responding whenever the in-game time changes, either it's fast travel (I can reach the town, and immediately got frozen), or time wait, or sleep I suppose. The changes I made after coming back to Skyrim were: MME new update, Dangerous Night updaate, RP 3.0, and installed Tamriel Reload HD. Now I can confirm it has nothing to do with Tamiel Reload or Dangerous Night, since the first few game play with these two were fine, I slept in-game to test DN, there was some problem with the attacker showed up and doing nothing though, but the game was running nonetheless. Today I tried again and the freezes happened, I firstly thought it might be TR HD causing it since it might take too much RAM that my laptop cannot with stand, so I removed it and retweak Skyrim.ini back to default. But the problem stayed. So I checked papyrus log and found massive lines aboutand MME, which I guess could be the cause. So here I attach the log and hopefully someone can help me with the problem. Much appreciate. oh i know... you are one of those types... RTFM well since im a nice person(or not xD), there is a changelog entry that says: Requires: Cleansave I did make clean save. With Save game cleaner v2.04. And just before reply this, I tried to start a new char with MME, RP 3.0 and it worked just fine, nothing changed to MME what so ever, it stayed the same as the frozen save. Did you install HDT SMP perchance?
Ed86 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Posted July 24, 2015 Hello Just got back to Skyrim a few days ago to try some new updates of several mods, while I'm at it, a really annoying problem happened. The game freezes and stops responding whenever the in-game time changes, either it's fast travel (I can reach the town, and immediately got frozen), or time wait, or sleep I suppose. The changes I made after coming back to Skyrim were: MME new update, Dangerous Night updaate, RP 3.0, and installed Tamriel Reload HD. Now I can confirm it has nothing to do with Tamiel Reload or Dangerous Night, since the first few game play with these two were fine, I slept in-game to test DN, there was some problem with the attacker showed up and doing nothing though, but the game was running nonetheless. Today I tried again and the freezes happened, I firstly thought it might be TR HD causing it since it might take too much RAM that my laptop cannot with stand, so I removed it and retweak Skyrim.ini back to default. But the problem stayed. So I checked papyrus log and found massive lines aboutand MME, which I guess could be the cause. So here I attach the log and hopefully someone can help me with the problem. Much appreciate. oh i know... you are one of those types... RTFM well since im a nice person(or not xD), there is a changelog entry that says: Requires: Cleansave I did make clean save. With Save game cleaner v2.04. And just before reply this, I tried to start a new char with MME, RP 3.0 and it worked just fine, nothing changed to MME what so ever, it stayed the same as the frozen save.That log says other wise , it has a lot of errors bcuz of values attached to scripts are nolonger used in new version
infernalone666 Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 hate to be a bit of a complainer, but I noticed a problem as my character gained levels, I noticed the breast growth didn't really work when she was naked. with armor or the milking cuirass, it did, but not naked
Monoman1 Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 hate to be a bit of a complainer, but I noticed a problem as my character gained levels, I noticed the breast growth didn't really work when she was naked. with armor or the milking cuirass, it did, but not naked Sounds like a body mesh issue. What body type are you using?
chajapa Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 So..... I created a profile so I could play with the new Spouses Enhanced that wraithslayer's been updating. Game played fine for many hours, but then I got to a point in the game where I had 4 maids plus my wife and all of a sudden I start having the CTD on save problem. The player.kill thing works to make it so you can save again, but.... for how long? How long can you play before saving again so that you have a place to start from that's beyond the point where you had to do the player.kill last time? I took the profile that had the problem... copied it to a new profile... uninstalled MME and left everything else as it was... and I've been able to play several hours on that new profile without a problem. I do not WANT to play without MME though. So a question to all who have had this issue. When you run into it... is it on a game that has been upgraded from a previous version? Or is it on a fresh clean game? I can't for the life of me remember if I started that game from a "cleaned" save after uninstalling an earlier version or if I used a freshly created character start that had never seen MME before. I might do it again by starting a new game (with basically no mods..... vanilla.... until I get out of Helgen) and see if I can repeat the problem. however it seems to take HOURS of game play to reproduce and there's no warning that I can see that it's happening... or not happening. When I use MME, I have debuffs and pain disabled. (milking is a JOYOUS thing!) so I'm not sure this is tied to the debuffs, but I sure would like to know what it IS tied to as it makes it hard to know how far to play past your last save before saving again.
Shadowscale Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 So..... I created a profile so I could play with the new Spouses Enhanced that wraithslayer's been updating. Game played fine for many hours, but then I got to a point in the game where I had 4 maids plus my wife and all of a sudden I start having the CTD on save problem. The player.kill thing works to make it so you can save again, but.... for how long? How long can you play before saving again so that you have a place to start from that's beyond the point where you had to do the player.kill last time? I took the profile that had the problem... copied it to a new profile... uninstalled MME and left everything else as it was... and I've been able to play several hours on that new profile without a problem. I do not WANT to play without MME though. So a question to all who have had this issue. When you run into it... is it on a game that has been upgraded from a previous version? Or is it on a fresh clean game? I can't for the life of me remember if I started that game from a "cleaned" save after uninstalling an earlier version or if I used a freshly created character start that had never seen MME before. I might do it again by starting a new game (with basically no mods..... vanilla.... until I get out of Helgen) and see if I can repeat the problem. however it seems to take HOURS of game play to reproduce and there's no warning that I can see that it's happening... or not happening. When I use MME, I have debuffs and pain disabled. (milking is a JOYOUS thing!) so I'm not sure this is tied to the debuffs, but I sure would like to know what it IS tied to as it makes it hard to know how far to play past your last save before saving again. From what I gather its actually a Skyrim problem. Skyrim has a memory leak. The player.kill console is to force the game to clear everything out and reapply everything. It can happen to vanilla saves just as much as others. Did you try changing it to simple milk with economy off as well. Finds that helps lower your papyrus load some.
Monoman1 Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 Pretty sure I started a fresh game with the new version. I've had it happen once. Did the player.kill thing and i've not had it again yet, played it for a couple of hours after.
Crooltool Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 So..... I created a profile so I could play with the new Spouses Enhanced that wraithslayer's been updating. Game played fine for many hours, but then I got to a point in the game where I had 4 maids plus my wife and all of a sudden I start having the CTD on save problem. The player.kill thing works to make it so you can save again, but.... for how long? How long can you play before saving again so that you have a place to start from that's beyond the point where you had to do the player.kill last time? I took the profile that had the problem... copied it to a new profile... uninstalled MME and left everything else as it was... and I've been able to play several hours on that new profile without a problem. I do not WANT to play without MME though. So a question to all who have had this issue. When you run into it... is it on a game that has been upgraded from a previous version? Or is it on a fresh clean game? I can't for the life of me remember if I started that game from a "cleaned" save after uninstalling an earlier version or if I used a freshly created character start that had never seen MME before. I might do it again by starting a new game (with basically no mods..... vanilla.... until I get out of Helgen) and see if I can repeat the problem. however it seems to take HOURS of game play to reproduce and there's no warning that I can see that it's happening... or not happening. When I use MME, I have debuffs and pain disabled. (milking is a JOYOUS thing!) so I'm not sure this is tied to the debuffs, but I sure would like to know what it IS tied to as it makes it hard to know how far to play past your last save before saving again. after my first encounter with the issue, <before the player.kill thing was even mentioned>, I started a new game, and each time after that as well, on the 4th time, I even did a complete fresh install on a reformatted HD, so from my experience, it doesn't matter if its an upgraded game or a completely new game.
chajapa Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 So..... I created a profile so I could play with the new Spouses Enhanced that wraithslayer's been updating. Game played fine for many hours, but then I got to a point in the game where I had 4 maids plus my wife and all of a sudden I start having the CTD on save problem. The player.kill thing works to make it so you can save again, but.... for how long? How long can you play before saving again so that you have a place to start from that's beyond the point where you had to do the player.kill last time? I took the profile that had the problem... copied it to a new profile... uninstalled MME and left everything else as it was... and I've been able to play several hours on that new profile without a problem. I do not WANT to play without MME though. So a question to all who have had this issue. When you run into it... is it on a game that has been upgraded from a previous version? Or is it on a fresh clean game? I can't for the life of me remember if I started that game from a "cleaned" save after uninstalling an earlier version or if I used a freshly created character start that had never seen MME before. I might do it again by starting a new game (with basically no mods..... vanilla.... until I get out of Helgen) and see if I can repeat the problem. however it seems to take HOURS of game play to reproduce and there's no warning that I can see that it's happening... or not happening. When I use MME, I have debuffs and pain disabled. (milking is a JOYOUS thing!) so I'm not sure this is tied to the debuffs, but I sure would like to know what it IS tied to as it makes it hard to know how far to play past your last save before saving again. From what I gather its actually a Skyrim problem. Skyrim has a memory leak. The player.kill console is to force the game to clear everything out and reapply everything. It can happen to vanilla saves just as much as others. Did you try changing it to simple milk with economy off as well. Finds that helps lower your papyrus load some. Debuffs off, Pain system off, Economy off... that's just how I always play it (now that I can shut them all off) Haven't tried Simple Milk yet. I'll try it and see. Also.... I have versions back to january 1 2015, but for whatever reason I don't seem to have the 3-28-2015 version. Is that still available anywhere?
infernalone666 Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 hate to be a bit of a complainer, but I noticed a problem as my character gained levels, I noticed the breast growth didn't really work when she was naked. with armor or the milking cuirass, it did, but not naked Sounds like a body mesh issue. What body type are you using? CBBE - and I'm certain it has something to do with the body mesh too does it being a custom race matter as well?
chajapa Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 hate to be a bit of a complainer, but I noticed a problem as my character gained levels, I noticed the breast growth didn't really work when she was naked. with armor or the milking cuirass, it did, but not naked Sounds like a body mesh issue. What body type are you using? CBBE - and I'm certain it has something to do with the body mesh too does it being a custom race matter as well? Custom race and does it matter.... yes and no. Yes, in that if your custom race uses custom meshes (and maybe SKELETON), then THOSE meshes have to be able to support breast scaling. No, in that, as long as the mesh thing above is all OK, everything should be fine. I've used this with Ningheim, Lunari, Succubus races and it always works without me having to do anything special EXCEPT to make sure the body meshes and skeleton are up to snuff.
Ed86 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Posted July 24, 2015 So..... I created a profile so I could play with the new Spouses Enhanced that wraithslayer's been updating. Game played fine for many hours, but then I got to a point in the game where I had 4 maids plus my wife and all of a sudden I start having the CTD on save problem. The player.kill thing works to make it so you can save again, but.... for how long? How long can you play before saving again so that you have a place to start from that's beyond the point where you had to do the player.kill last time?did you install fixes for few last pages? can you send save file with ctd on save, ill remove all mods but mme and it dependencies and try playing =) you cant save after you load that save right?
infernalone666 Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 hate to be a bit of a complainer, but I noticed a problem as my character gained levels, I noticed the breast growth didn't really work when she was naked. with armor or the milking cuirass, it did, but not naked Sounds like a body mesh issue. What body type are you using? CBBE - and I'm certain it has something to do with the body mesh too does it being a custom race matter as well? Custom race and does it matter.... yes and no. Yes, in that if your custom race uses custom meshes (and maybe SKELETON), then THOSE meshes have to be able to support breast scaling. No, in that, as long as the mesh thing above is all OK, everything should be fine. I've used this with Ningheim, Lunari, Succubus races and it always works without me having to do anything special EXCEPT to make sure the body meshes and skeleton are up to snuff. I copy the mesh and the skeleton over, and yet this happens
chajapa Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 So..... I created a profile so I could play with the new Spouses Enhanced that wraithslayer's been updating. Game played fine for many hours, but then I got to a point in the game where I had 4 maids plus my wife and all of a sudden I start having the CTD on save problem. The player.kill thing works to make it so you can save again, but.... for how long? How long can you play before saving again so that you have a place to start from that's beyond the point where you had to do the player.kill last time?did you install fixes for few last pages? can you send save file with ctd on save, ill remove all mods but mme and it dependencies and try playing =) you cant save after you load that save right? I found a MME Test Script from July 20 and then an MME quick Fix script from July 22. I haven't applied either of those. Should I apply both? ahh.... they're both MilkQUEST script. Just install the newest one? If there are other test fixes... you'll need to let me know 'cause I can't find them.
chajapa Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 OK I installed the MME QuickFix one and started up the game and loaded the save that would crash-on-save and..... it didn't crash on save. I then loaded a save BEFORE that one and saved again... no crash... and loaded a save AFTER that one and saved again... no crash. So I'll keep playing that profile and see if it happens any more. YAY! Because I was liking that profile.
Ed86 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Posted July 24, 2015 So..... I created a profile so I could play with the new Spouses Enhanced that wraithslayer's been updating. Game played fine for many hours, but then I got to a point in the game where I had 4 maids plus my wife and all of a sudden I start having the CTD on save problem. The player.kill thing works to make it so you can save again, but.... for how long? How long can you play before saving again so that you have a place to start from that's beyond the point where you had to do the player.kill last time?did you install fixes for few last pages? can you send save file with ctd on save, ill remove all mods but mme and it dependencies and try playing =) you cant save after you load that save right? I found a MME Test Script from July 20 and then an MME quick Fix script from July 22. I haven't applied either of those. Should I apply both? ahh.... they're both MilkQUEST script. Just install the newest one? If there are other test fixes... you'll need to let me know 'cause I can't find them. QF oneHmm well then, I hope I found that error
MasterPiece300 Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 So..... I created a profile so I could play with the new Spouses Enhanced that wraithslayer's been updating. Game played fine for many hours, but then I got to a point in the game where I had 4 maids plus my wife and all of a sudden I start having the CTD on save problem. The player.kill thing works to make it so you can save again, but.... for how long? How long can you play before saving again so that you have a place to start from that's beyond the point where you had to do the player.kill last time? I took the profile that had the problem... copied it to a new profile... uninstalled MME and left everything else as it was... and I've been able to play several hours on that new profile without a problem. I do not WANT to play without MME though. So a question to all who have had this issue. When you run into it... is it on a game that has been upgraded from a previous version? Or is it on a fresh clean game? I can't for the life of me remember if I started that game from a "cleaned" save after uninstalling an earlier version or if I used a freshly created character start that had never seen MME before. I might do it again by starting a new game (with basically no mods..... vanilla.... until I get out of Helgen) and see if I can repeat the problem. however it seems to take HOURS of game play to reproduce and there's no warning that I can see that it's happening... or not happening. When I use MME, I have debuffs and pain disabled. (milking is a JOYOUS thing!) so I'm not sure this is tied to the debuffs, but I sure would like to know what it IS tied to as it makes it hard to know how far to play past your last save before saving again. lol so now you feel our pain. the ctd on save issue comes regardless of what you do, there is no escape lol. try this new fix i believe is the issue https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/?l=german. my guess is that it takes a certain amount of memory before the game finishes saving and since this fix adds more available memory the issues are fixed. but im not 100% certain as i haven't been playing skyrim much since now im working on my own mod muahahahah lol. but it may be that you already have this fix in which case...back to the drawing board. If it does fix it tho it may be that Ed may have to optimize his scripts so as to reduce stress to papyrus.
Ed86 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Posted July 24, 2015 So..... I created a profile so I could play with the new Spouses Enhanced that wraithslayer's been updating. Game played fine for many hours, but then I got to a point in the game where I had 4 maids plus my wife and all of a sudden I start having the CTD on save problem. The player.kill thing works to make it so you can save again, but.... for how long? How long can you play before saving again so that you have a place to start from that's beyond the point where you had to do the player.kill last time? I took the profile that had the problem... copied it to a new profile... uninstalled MME and left everything else as it was... and I've been able to play several hours on that new profile without a problem. I do not WANT to play without MME though. So a question to all who have had this issue. When you run into it... is it on a game that has been upgraded from a previous version? Or is it on a fresh clean game? I can't for the life of me remember if I started that game from a "cleaned" save after uninstalling an earlier version or if I used a freshly created character start that had never seen MME before. I might do it again by starting a new game (with basically no mods..... vanilla.... until I get out of Helgen) and see if I can repeat the problem. however it seems to take HOURS of game play to reproduce and there's no warning that I can see that it's happening... or not happening. When I use MME, I have debuffs and pain disabled. (milking is a JOYOUS thing!) so I'm not sure this is tied to the debuffs, but I sure would like to know what it IS tied to as it makes it hard to know how far to play past your last save before saving again. lol so now you feel our pain. the ctd on save issue comes regardless of what you do, there is no escape lol. try this new fix i believe is the issue https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/?l=german. my guess is that it takes a certain amount of memory before the game finishes saving and since this fix adds more available memory the issues are fixed. but im not 100% certain as i haven't been playing skyrim much since now im working on my own mod muahahahah lol. but it may be that you already have this fix in which case...back to the drawing board. If it does fix it tho it may be that Ed may have to optimize his scripts so as to reduce stress to papyrus. Woot? Nooo, optimizations are not mainstream nowadays, you must buy new PC with 64 Gb ram and 12 cores
infernalone666 Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 I'm using the cbbe body and the xpmse 2.82. those are a body style that supports body morphing and the skeleton is one of the highest versions, so I don't understand how the breasts don't scale when nude. I copy the mesh and skeleton over to my custom race, so, by all means, it should work
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