Sexout Intimacy

[t3589]

I was referring to the dance show at the wrangler (which now seem to require the "wang dang atomic tango" quest to be completed) and the gommorah work which seems to require "bye bye love", a quest a never managed to complete due to its very high skill checks. But you're right, I guess I didn't necessarily look at it the right way, one doesn't have to be hired to work in the casino, though I liked the dance performances: It's not prostitution but could naturally lead to it.

 

Eventually I'm sure you'll be able to do that.  I plan to create a couple addon mods that will bring the shows back eventually (if no one else does it).  Right now I just want to focus on getting the engine squared away, before I start creating content like 'The Follies'.  The main purpose of this mod is not to provide content, but a framework that modders can easily add content to.

 

 

EDIT:  I'm seeing a weird problem with Spunk.  It keeps reapplying itself even after washing up.  Which keeps a steady stream of rumors going among the NPCs, which in turn drives down respect.  Might disable Spunk tracking for the next copy.

 

Noticed that too, it appears that cum leaks out slowly of a recently fucked pussy (don't know about anal) therefor even after washing up you still technically have internal cum that "drips" to outside locations overtime and thereby the shader effect is re-applied. I don't think washing up actually means inside just the outside.

 

So, a SOI NPC looks at your characters legs to see cum slowly dripping/sliding down them and in return the rumors happen constantly of course.

 

Using the douches "Shaken Warm Cola Douche" and "SexoutSDoucheAntiFungal" should wash out the inside and stop this should it not?

 

Besides removing Spunk support I hope there is other ways to counter/resolve this as I like the immersion layer that SOI NPCs can see and react to a character covered in spunk.

 

 

Hmm well if I knew that once upon a time, I must have forgotten it.  Makes sense now that I think about it.  I too like spunk tracking.  Will try the soda pops and see if it works.

 

EDIT: OK wow.  I managed to get cleaned up, but it took me 3 water wash ups and 2 douches.  More effort than I remember, but probably more realistic.  I've added some debug to appearance tracking that shows outside spunk volumes for the next copy.

 

Edited January 22, 2016 by t3589

[t3589]

New one up.  Addressed a few issues.  Performance menu should now display 'Proper Attire Required' if applicable.  Tons of changes to appearance debug with a lot more info.  I'm starting to introduce promiscuity levels into the mix, will probably need more testing/tweaking.

 

[ketiax]

 

Quick question. I can't perform in Camp McCarran. Every time I walk on the table, the Perform tab would come out, but only Later option is in it. I can perform in Atomic Wrangler but not Camp McCarran, I got the license as well. Don't know why

 

What is your PC wearing?  Most performances require you to dress the part.

 

Dance requires clothing that is and/either/or:

- Pretty/Handsome

- Cleavage

- Lingerie

- Classy

- Sexy

 

Strip requires clothing that is and/either/or:

- Slutty/Sleazy

- Crotchless

- Prostitute

- Topless

- Skimpy

 

Neither will be available if your PC is beyond P1 pregnancy.

 

But the weird part is that I can do both at Atomic Wrangler, but neither in Camp McCarran. I'll give it a shot again when I have time

 

Kay got it to work. Probably my character was pregnant. Sorry for the trouble

[t3589]

 

 

Quick question. I can't perform in Camp McCarran. Every time I walk on the table, the Perform tab would come out, but only Later option is in it. I can perform in Atomic Wrangler but not Camp McCarran, I got the license as well. Don't know why

 

What is your PC wearing?  Most performances require you to dress the part.

 

Dance requires clothing that is and/either/or:

- Pretty/Handsome

- Cleavage

- Lingerie

- Classy

- Sexy

 

Strip requires clothing that is and/either/or:

- Slutty/Sleazy

- Crotchless

- Prostitute

- Topless

- Skimpy

 

Neither will be available if your PC is beyond P1 pregnancy.

 

But the weird part is that I can do both at Atomic Wrangler, but neither in Camp McCarran. I'll give it a shot again when I have time

 

Kay got it to work. Probably my character was pregnant. Sorry for the trouble

 

 

There's a slight mistake in the conditions on the performance menu.  Shouldn't hurt anything, but it has been fixed for the next copy.  If the PC is too pregnant (P2 or greater) the menu won't even pop up.

 

Also note that the performance triggers are only available once per day.  So if you've done a performance in any location, that location will not trigger again until the next day.  So far there are 5 performance locations, but I may add more eventually.  A little tip: Perform just before midnight, then perform again just after midnight.  This won't work with the Tops performance though because the stage is occupied until after midnight.

 

[Almodo]

That's weird, the SOI-DataV6.7z file copies everything except files under sound/fx/SOIntimacy/

Trying to unzip that gives me a disk read error. Anyone experienced that?

[7KeysCurtain]

That's weird, the SOI-DataV6.7z file copies everything except files under sound/fx/SOIntimacy/

 

Trying to unzip that gives me a disk read error. Anyone experienced that?

 

All good on my end, tested using latest versions of 7-Zip & WinRAR, try downloading using a different browser or make sure you update your extraction software.

 

 

 

 

 

[Almodo]

Huh, TotalCommander hiccupped and failed to unpack it. Normal WinRar can extract it. That's odd, that's the first time this has happened in my 8+ years using TC.

Problem traced to packing software hiccup and some user cockup, resolved. Thanks people.

[MRM18870]

That's weird, the SOI-DataV6.7z file copies everything except files under sound/fx/SOIntimacy/

 

Trying to unzip that gives me a disk read error. Anyone experienced that?

 

Something similar some time ago. In the end it depended on the browser I used for downloading, whether the file worked or don't worked ( I had the problem with Opera )

[Almodo]

Well I redownloaded it via the same browser I downloaded it with originally: Firefox. Can confirm things are peachy.

[t3589]

New one up.  Promiscuity levels should be falling into place.  Found and fixed a critical bug in the absent evaluation.  Still edging gains back to their original intentions.  Expect NPCs to exhibit wildly different behavior as they return to autonomy.  Also expect to see more variation, as well as a few things that weren't working at all previously.

 

For best results start the mod fresh, otherwise it may take a few cycles for NPC stats to stabilize.  Much of the 'make sure NPCs are certain to XYZ so I can test it' code has been removed.  In short, the choices you make in dialog just became a lot more meaningful.  Autopilot has been disabled.

[7KeysCurtain]

T. Some questions, first off I've done a fresh save / mod start as I regularly do or when you suggest so.

 

- Are threesomes sex acts new or meant to happen at all? (What triggers them if so?)

I noticed with the last couple of updates (and has never happened to me before at all) is after a one-on-one successful negotiating prostitution and [seek Privacy] done then commencing a sex act I expect me and just him to have sex but un-expectantly another male SOI NPC also takes part as the sex act starts and it ends up becoming an un-wanted threesome (2 male SOI NPCs and my female character). Here's the debug.

 

- *At the moment are Stalker chance/values/rates low, normal or experimental values? Seem to be very common now compared to previous updates. (See apparel below)

 

- *Right after a fresh enabled SOI NPC has flashed green & 'Entered the Matrix' their desire is 100 straight off and they immediately start flirting, noticed this for multiple males as I was adding them. Here's my apparel settings and debug right after they (the new SOI NPC) got enabled.

 

- Is the dialog option to ask a SOI NPC to [Pay Up] added and active after a prostitution sex act is complete and they didn't pay?

I haven't seen that option since the original SOIR and just wanted to know if it's just me or not, I have confessed to [Rumor: Is A Prostitute].

 

*Tommorow, I'm going to do another fresh save / mod start and test with no apparel settings enabled at all (no legs, ass, breasts, quality low) and then try with ragged and homely to test difference with stalkers and rate of which male SOI NPCs [Flirt] to me.

 

Who knew wearing a short skirt and showing off some legs would make 9 out of 10 men I come across stalk and try to rape me.

Also I don't have any Sexout perks such as [bitch In Heat] added either if SOI does indeed take that into account.

Not blaming you I bet it's my fault and I'm missing a factor or two to answer my own questions and 'issues'. Sorry. Will provide more info if needed.

[t3589]

T. Some questions, first off I've done a fresh save / mod start as I regularly do or when you suggest so.

 

- Are threesomes sex acts new or meant to happen at all? (What triggers them if so?)

I noticed with the last couple of updates (and has never happened to me before at all) is after a one-on-one successful negotiating prostitution and [seek Privacy] done then commencing a sex act I expect me and just him to have sex but un-expectantly another male SOI NPC also takes part as the sex act starts and it ends up becoming an un-wanted threesome (2 male SOI NPCs and my female character). Here's the debug.

 

- *At the moment are Stalker chance/values/rates low, normal or experimental values? Seem to be very common now compared to previous updates. (See apparel below)

 

- *Right after a fresh enabled SOI NPC has flashed green & 'Entered the Matrix' their desire is 100 straight off and they immediately start flirting, noticed this for multiple males as I was adding them. Here's my apparel settings and debug right after they (the new SOI NPC) got enabled.

 

- Is the dialog option to ask a SOI NPC to [Pay Up] added and active after a prostitution sex act is complete and they didn't pay?

I haven't seen that option since the original SOIR and just wanted to know if it's just me or not, I have confessed to [Rumor: Is A Prostitute].

 

*Tommorow, I'm going to do another fresh save / mod start and test with no apparel settings enabled at all (no legs, ass, breasts, quality low) and then try with ragged and homely to test difference with stalkers and rate of which male SOI NPCs [Flirt] to me.

 

Who knew wearing a short skirt and showing off some legs would make 9 out of 10 men I come across stalk and try to rape me.

Also I don't have any Sexout perks such as [bitch In Heat] added either if SOI does indeed take that into account.

Not blaming you I bet it's my fault and I'm missing a factor or two to answer my own questions and 'issues'. Sorry. Will provide more info if needed.

 

Three way should only happen with stalkers currently.  If you scof your debug it would help.  A snapshot doesn't tell me what happened before (how he picked up the buddy).  I'm just guessing, but I'd say the actor that solicited the PC was a stalker and had an ActorC buddy from a previous stalk attempt that should have been cleared but wasn't.  Needs work still.

 

What do you have your stalking set to in mod settings?  Fantasy will raise the rate (2/10 eligible).  Hardcore will REALLY raise the rate (3/10 eligible).  If your PC has a high charisma this will also increase the chance.  So does alignment, gang level, libido..., all these things stack up.  NPC preparations still needs some tweaking too.

 

In short, if your PC is a supermodel, and the NPC is an evil gang member, with a high sex drive (low libido attribute), expect a stalker.  Fyi my PC started with a charisma of 4, and with various bonuses from mods like spunk and clothing it sits around 7-9.  Just an example that you don't really have to pump up charisma for this mod.

 

Desire 100 right away = stalker.

 

Pay Up should show up if you're not in an activity.

 

EDIT: New one up.  Added a clear for stalker buddies.  Also separated stalker ratio from stalker modes.  Now you can set the rate independent of the mode in the control terminal.  Defaults to 1 in 10.

 

Edited January 25, 2016 by t3589

[7KeysCurtain]

Thanks for the clarifications, that does clear up alot as both were stalkers and the other had tried to rape me previously.

Yep, I had stalking set to Hardcore and CHR 10 + effects stacking more CHR on top so that explains the abnormally high rate of stalkers.

*Resolved by lowering my CHR and setting stalker mode to Default in the recent update.

For some questions below - Fresh start, virgin character, no sex acts, haven't had rumors happen, haven't flirted with anyone. Again same apparel settings.

 

I assume CHR also effects the rate of which SOI NPCs will [Flirt]?

Seems so but I'm not complaining, I suspect that's more based off looks/apparel and if the player has been drinking alcohol through [Activity] correct...?

 

Is it confidence when male SOI NPCs consistently [Embrace], [Kiss], [Grope] even when I haven't flirted/encouraged them?

Or is it their high lust & desire driving them to do so even though they know I'll just keep rebuffing/chastising them?

Do they eventually get the point that I'm not an easy lay or going to be a whore for example? Do notice I get respected more in return.

I would suspect [slap] would show them I'm serious & fuck off but some are persistent and asking for a bullet it seems lol.

 

Don't know if it's intentional or coincidence but it seems they do try other means of gettting laid as shortly later they try [booze?] activity and they start to flirt in hopes from their it'll lead to sex later on maybe?

A couple times I got given "Drugged Wine" which I assume contains Rohypnol but didn't notice them try taking advantage of me so maybe SOI/SOI NPCs treat "Drugged Wine" just like other generic alcohol such as Beer.

There's also Dixon's Rohypnol via [Chems] Activity that happens sometimes, again I suspect this part of the layer is WIP, understood just curious for definitive confirmination or not.

 

Imagine it play out like this: (%/chance factor increase at night time and hour maybe.)

A evil gang member, with a high sex drive, high lust & desire for the player.

He asks me [booze?] and I regretfully agree.

He gives me Drugged Wine and plays it cool with some [small Talk] to stall time.

Shortly after he then asks [Walk With Me], searches for an area that is private and leads me there.

A blurry screen effect can be applied slowly over time and once he is in the clear [Rape] happens.

 

The potential fallout afterwards:

 

Player could/can be unconscious (depending on how tired the player is taking in stats from hardcore mode) or time could skip a few hours ahead and the player re-gains consciousness and/or (%/chance factor increase at night time and hour maybe.)

Afterwards an dialog option to [Confront] him and in return depending on stats/factors, [Retaliation], [Apology], [insult], [Nonchalant] from the rapist.

[t3589]

Thanks for the clarifications, that does clear up alot as both were stalkers and the other had tried to rape me previously.

 

Yep, I had stalking set to Hardcore and CHR 10 + effects stacking more CHR on top so that explains the abnormally high rate of stalkers.

 

*Resolved by lowering my CHR and setting stalker mode to Default in the recent update.

For some questions below - Fresh start, virgin character, no sex acts, haven't had rumors happen, haven't flirted with anyone. Again same apparel settings.

 

I assume CHR also effects the rate of which SOI NPCs will [Flirt]?

Seems so but I'm not complaining, I suspect that's more based off looks/apparel and if the player has been drinking alcohol through [Activity] correct...?

 

Is it confidence when male SOI NPCs consistently [Embrace], [Kiss], [Grope] even when I haven't flirted/encouraged them?

Or is it their high lust & desire driving them to do so even though they know I'll just keep rebuffing/chastising them?

Do they eventually get the point that I'm not an easy lay or going to be a whore for example? Do notice I get respected more in return.

I would suspect [slap] would show them I'm serious & fuck off but some are persistent and asking for a bullet it seems lol.

 

Don't know if it's intentional or coincidence but it seems they do try other means of gettting laid as shortly later they try [booze?] activity and they start to flirt in hopes from their it'll lead to sex later on maybe?

A couple times I got given "Drugged Wine" which I assume contains Rohypnol but didn't notice them try taking advantage of me so maybe SOI/SOI NPCs treat "Drugged Wine" just like other generic alcohol such as Beer.

There's also Dixon's Rohypnol via [Chems] Activity that happens sometimes, again I suspect this part of the layer is WIP, understood just curious for definitive confirmination or not.

 

Imagine it play out like this: (%/chance factor increase at night time and hour maybe.)

A evil gang member, with a high sex drive, high lust & desire for the player.

He asks me [booze?] and I regretfully agree.

He gives me Drugged Wine and plays it cool with some [small Talk] to stall time.

Shortly after he then asks [Walk With Me], searches for an area that is private and leads me there.

A blurry screen effect can be applied slowly over time and once he is in the clear [Rape] happens.

 

The potential fallout afterwards:

 

Player could/can be unconscious (depending on how tired the player is taking in stats from hardcore mode) or time could skip a few hours ahead and the player re-gains consciousness and/or (%/chance factor increase at night time and hour maybe.)

Afterwards an dialog option to [Confront] him and in return depending on stats/factors, [Retaliation], [Apology], [insult], [Nonchalant] from the rapist.

 

No sweat.  Charisma affects a solid ton of things indirectly.  Though flirting is as simple as getting their desire to 100.  Remember there is a lot more variation now (and I'm still adding more), which means you'll sort of have to get to know the NPC and how they operate.

 

Partying together can give the NPC beer goggles.  Other than that there are no alcohol effects.

 

Embrace/Kiss/Grope = NPC is making a pass at you.  Personally I use unwanted advances to gain argument levels.  The most common causes are being attractive and a low libido attribute.  Add no respect to that (for your personal space in this instance), and it makes for a very handsy NPC.  Rejecting them should gain you some respect and slow them down, but the world is full of people for a reason, and most of these NPCs have nothing better to do.  The PC is probably the only entertainment they're likely to see.

 

If they have the opinion that the PC is a whore or easy, it stacks just like everything else.  Some NPCs will be turned off by it, others the opposite.  The way to get rid of them is to deny any rumors/opinions from them.  An alternative is to find out what kind of gift makes them feel sexy.  Give it to them, then adjust their libido to a higher number.

 

Yep.  They do that, and can be quite crafty.  For example: stalkers will sometimes try and get you into an activity on the chance that the activity will get you alone so they can jump you. lol

 

It uses some of the sex drugs from SCR, but yeah it's sort of open ended atm.  I don't know what they do honestly.  I had planned on doing some pass out sort of thing eventually.  I'm definitely going to add dump sites for hardcore stalkers (only thing missing is the markers, the mechanics are already in).

[BruceWayne]

 

Yep.  They do that, and can be quite crafty.  For example: stalkers will sometimes try and get you into an activity on the chance that the activity will get you alone so they can jump you. lol

 

 

Jeez, they are getting craftier and craftier.

[7KeysCurtain]

Hope you are well T.

 

Just now I've been playing as a sexy licensed professional prostitute, confessed to the prostitute rumor, have a good handful of customers already and have prostitute set in apparel, my value has increased and I'm now getting 300+ caps per session, loving it.

 

Doing [Hang Out] activity with (example: George) and if George does [Grope], [Kiss], [Embrace] me the [Prostitution] option doesn't show as I would have liked, only [Make Out], [Maybe], [Rebuff], [ignore] & [slap].

 

Of course I'm not giving out free consensual sex but I went ahead and tested what would happen and see if I can still get the [Prostitution] option.

 

- I selected [Make Out] and did some touching and embracing to tease him up then I selected [Cancel] and George responded with [Coerce].

- I was hoping now that I've teased him and got him horny I would get the [Prostitution] option but no dice.

- Instead I got [seek Privacy], [Comply], [Cancel].

- I did [seek Privacy] and went to a private place, there he [Embrace] and the follow up choices are [Make Out] and [Cancel], aww still no [Prostitution] option.

- So now I'm left with 1 of 2 things can happen: After embracing, kissing etc eventually he starts sex and the sex animations play (treated as non-prostituted sex, not what I wanted) or I use the [Cancel] option after teasing him abit, he will [seduce] or [Coerce] but I still don't have the [Prositution] option.

- Cycle repeats.

 

Basically, just because I'm hanging out with them doesn't mean I'm opting into free consensual sex, I'd still like the prostitution option if they are interested in sex, and/or if I wanted to give him free consensual sex for what ever reason I could select [Freebie] for example or [Prostitution] & [Make Out] options available together or something else that fits better so that the PC can fuck for $ or fuck for free because they feel like it.

 

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On another subject I'm not sure if it's an "issue?" but... it's sure annoying. Hopefully something can be done about it, not sure. Haven't experienced this before.

 

 

 

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIRecrdEval:VirtueCheck!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:CYCLE: 37
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:STAGE: 1
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIGainEval:GainLvl: 4
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Handsome:Pretty!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Attraction: 36
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:PCAppeal: 23
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Breasts:Chest!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Sleazy:Slutty!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Submissive!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Prostitute!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:LikeWear!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Classy!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Sexy!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Legs!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Ass!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:PCReputation: 1
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:PCInfluence: -29
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Aggravation: 3
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Disposition: 14
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Conviction: 0
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Inhibition: 74
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Respect: 14
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Trust: -100
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Envy: 0
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Love: -18
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:AfterGlow: -1
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Infidelity: 0
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Desire: 100
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Lust: 98
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Quit: 0
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIProcEval:PromiscuityLvl: 0
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIProcEval:PrefersGenital!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIProcEval:PrefersSolo!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIBehvrEval:DoActivity: 1
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIBehvrEval:DoFlirt: 1

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIDialogEval:Abort:Is Sitting!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!
fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista)

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!
fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista)  <<< [solicitation] starts, we barter and make a deal.
Jamel (300064E2):SOITrackerQst:Package (10) Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected!  <<< Not sure if this means the solicitation we did as I'm not in an activity with anyone else.
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:AIPackage SandBox Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Follow!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:SOIFollowPC! <<< I'm walking to my private place (not a separate cell) where I fuck patrons and my customer (Jamel) is following me there.
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:EVP!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!  <<< The (annoying) "issue?" starts, I am no where near him nor in an activity with him or talked to him.
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAction:Talk!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!  <<< It's as if he can see I'm busy walking my customer to my private room.
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAction:Talk!  <<< But he doesn't care, he needs to talk.
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!
fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista)   <<< I'm at the private fuck place but can't start because of Daniel's 'Talk!' annoyance.
Jamel (300064E2):SOITrackerQst:Package (10) Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected! <<< Even though we're in complete privacy Jamel says [seek Privacy], Daniel has not followed us, he is still in his original location. No other NPCS around at all.
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:SOISandBox!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:EVP!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Follow!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following! <<< I verify that we're completely alone and Daniel is no where near us nor followed us. I've fucked in this exact room/spot multiple times fine and never had the [seek Privacy] issue UNLESS this "Talk!" thing happens.
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:SOIFollowPC!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:EVP!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAction:Talk!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!
fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista)  <<< I try again to start sex but again [seek Privacy] from Jamel.
Jamel (300064E2):SOITrackerQst:Package (10) Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:SOISandBox!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:EVP!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Follow!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following!  <<< Only way to solve this - I have to go all the way back out there to (in this case) Daniel, he isn't walking or running towards me, they stay in their current position, waiting it seems for me to come over to him.
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!  <<< "...What's the problem Daniel? Can't you see I'm busy baby..."
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAction:Talk!
fnSOIDialogEval:(Daniel):Says:(SOINPCFlirt):To:(Krista)  <<< "You can be my next customer okay... yea?"
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!
Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!
fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista) << I go back to my private room and now I can start sex, Jamel is no longer saying [seek Privacy], all is good and I get paid afterwards.

The "Talk!" (issue?) isn't just with Daniel, it can be any SOI NPC, it's the same outcome when ever this happens, I can't start my whoring unless I go to the SOI NPC that wants to Talk and do so or else it's never ending [seek Privacy] messages from my patron.

 

 

[t3589]

Hope you are well T.

 

Just now I've been playing as a sexy licensed professional prostitute, confessed to the prostitute rumor, have a good handful of customers already and have prostitute set in apparel, my value has increased and I'm now getting 300+ caps per session, loving it.

 

Doing [Hang Out] activity with (example: George) and if George does [Grope], [Kiss], [Embrace] me the [Prostitution] option doesn't show as I would have liked, only [Make Out], [Maybe], [Rebuff], [ignore] & [slap].

 

Of course I'm not giving out free consensual sex but I went ahead and tested what would happen and see if I can still get the [Prostitution] option.

 

- I selected [Make Out] and did some touching and embracing to tease him up then I selected [Cancel] and George responded with [Coerce].

- I was hoping now that I've teased him and got him horny I would get the [Prostitution] option but no dice.

- Instead I got [seek Privacy], [Comply], [Cancel].

- I did [seek Privacy] and went to a private place, there he [Embrace] and the follow up choices are [Make Out] and [Cancel], aww still no [Prostitution] option.

- So now I'm left with 1 of 2 things can happen: After embracing, kissing etc eventually he starts sex and the sex animations play (treated as non-prostituted sex, not what I wanted) or I use the [Cancel] option after teasing him abit, he will [seduce] or [Coerce] but I still don't have the [Prositution] option.

- Cycle repeats.

 

Basically, just because I'm hanging out with them doesn't mean I'm opting into free consensual sex, I'd still like the prostitution option if they are interested in sex, and/or if I wanted to give him free consensual sex for what ever reason I could select [Freebie] for example or [Prostitution] & [Make Out] options available together or something else that fits better so that the PC can fuck for $ or fuck for free because they feel like it.

 

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On another subject I'm not sure if it's an "issue?" but... it's sure annoying. Hopefully something can be done about it, not sure. Haven't experienced this before.

 

 

 

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIRecrdEval:VirtueCheck!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:CYCLE: 37

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:STAGE: 1

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIGainEval:GainLvl: 4

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Handsome:Pretty!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Attraction: 36

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:PCAppeal: 23

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Breasts:Chest!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Sleazy:Slutty!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Submissive!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Prostitute!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:LikeWear!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Classy!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Sexy!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Legs!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIApprncEval:Ass!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:PCReputation: 1

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:PCInfluence: -29

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Aggravation: 3

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Disposition: 14

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Conviction: 0

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Inhibition: 74

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Respect: 14

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Trust: -100

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Envy: 0

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Love: -18

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:AfterGlow: -1

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Infidelity: 0

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Desire: 100

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Lust: 98

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAttrbtEval:Quit: 0

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIProcEval:PromiscuityLvl: 0

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIProcEval:PrefersGenital!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIProcEval:PrefersSolo!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIBehvrEval:DoActivity: 1

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIBehvrEval:DoFlirt: 1

Jamel (600064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!

Jamel (600064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Jamel (600064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!

Jamel (600064E2):fnSOIDialogEval:Abort:Is Sitting!

Gambler (600064DD):fnSOIQueue:Excluded!

Jamel (600064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!

Jamel (600064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Jamel (600064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!

fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista)

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!

fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista)  <<< [solicitation] starts, we barter and make a deal.

Jamel (300064E2):SOITrackerQst:Package (10) Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected!  <<< Not sure if this means the solicitation we did as I'm not in an activity with anyone else.

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:AIPackage SandBox Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Follow!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:SOIFollowPC! <<< I'm walking to my private place (not a separate cell) where I fuck patrons and my customer (Jamel) is following me there.

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:EVP!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!  <<< The (annoying) "issue?" starts, I am no where near him nor in an activity with him or talked to him.

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAction:Talk!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!  <<< It's as if he can see I'm busy walking my customer to my private room.

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAction:Talk!  <<< But he doesn't care, he needs to talk.

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!

fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista)   <<< I'm at the private fuck place but can't start because of Daniel's 'Talk!' annoyance.

Jamel (300064E2):SOITrackerQst:Package (10) Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected! <<< Even though we're in complete privacy Jamel says [seek Privacy], Daniel has not followed us, he is still in his original location. No other NPCS around at all.

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:SOISandBox!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:EVP!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Follow!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following! <<< I verify that we're completely alone and Daniel is no where near us nor followed us. I've fucked in this exact room/spot multiple times fine and never had the [seek Privacy] issue UNLESS this "Talk!" thing happens.

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:SOIFollowPC!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:EVP!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAction:Talk!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!

fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista)  <<< I try again to start sex but again [seek Privacy] from Jamel.

Jamel (300064E2):SOITrackerQst:Package (10) Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:Activity Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:SOISandBox!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIPkgEval:EVP!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Follow!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following!  <<< Only way to solve this - I have to go all the way back out there to (in this case) Daniel, he isn't walking or running towards me, they stay in their current position, waiting it seems for me to come over to him.

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!  <<< "...What's the problem Daniel? Can't you see I'm busy baby..."

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Daniel (300064C8):fnSOIAction:Talk!

fnSOIDialogEval:(Daniel):Says:(SOINPCFlirt):To:(Krista)  <<< "You can be my next customer okay... yea?"

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Following!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIHotKey:Selected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIQueue:Action Detected!

Jamel (300064E2):fnSOIAction:Talk!

fnSOIDialogEval:(Jamel):Says:(SOINPCSex):To:(Krista) << I go back to my private room and now I can start sex, Jamel is no longer saying [seek Privacy], all is good and I get paid afterwards.

 

The "Talk!" (issue?) isn't just with Daniel, it can be any SOI NPC, it's the same outcome when ever this happens, I can't start my whoring unless I go to the SOI NPC that wants to Talk and do so or else it's never ending [seek Privacy] messages from my patron.

 

 

 

The only reasons Proposition wouldn't be available under the circumstances you described would be a. the option has been exhausted for the day (you get three/NPC), or b. the NPCs commit level is greater than 2 (partner/spouse).

 

As for the rest I'm not sure.  The debug says there's definitely an activity in progress with Jamel.  It also says that package 10 was the applied package for the activity 'sandbox/hang out'.  So either you were still in an acitivty or the applied package didn't clear from a previous hang out and got re-applied.

 

Also, until you get an Activity End dialog, you will be in an activity.  Following will delay the activity end among other things.  So if you have him follow you before he says Activity End, the end of the activity will be delayed until the following, and whatever else goes along with it is complete.

 

I suspect it might have something to do with a long standing bug I've been fighting with on and off.  In debug you hotkeyed Jamel while he was in the process of either getting up or sitting down.  This sometimes causes problems.

 

If Daniel has a talk action, he should approach the PC.  It will continue to count him as present population because he is already supposed to be seeking you out for a conversation (as long as you're in the same worldspace).

 

I also noticed that neither of these NPCs ever approached on their own, but always interrupted your hotkey with their talk actions.  Were you in a hurry maybe?

 

I'll add more debug to the next copy to try and pin it down.

 

 

EDIT:  I think I may have found part of the not approaching problem at least.  Attempted fix in the next copy.

EDITx2: New one up.  Might solve the approach issue.  Untested.

EDITx3: And..... I think I found the sandbox not clearing problem if you per chance had Jamel relax while at home.  Working on it now.

EDITx4: New one up.  Hopefully solves both issues.

 

Edited January 30, 2016 by t3589

[7KeysCurtain]

The only reasons Proposition wouldn't be available under the circumstances you described would be a. the option has been exhausted for the day (you get three/NPC), or b. the NPCs commit level is greater than 2 (partner/spouse).

 

As for the rest I'm not sure.  The debug says there's definitely an activity in progress with Jamel.  It also says that package 10 was the applied package for the activity 'sandbox/hang out'.  So either you were still in an activity or the applied package didn't clear from a previous hang out and got re-applied.

 

Also, until you get an Activity End dialog, you will be in an activity.  Following will delay the activity end among other things.  So if you have him follow you before he says Activity End, the end of the activity will be delayed until the following, and whatever else goes along with it is complete.

 

I suspect it might have something to do with a long standing bug I've been fighting with on and off.  In debug you hotkeyed Jamel while he was in the process of either getting up or sitting down.  This sometimes causes problems.

 

If Daniel has a talk action, he should approach the PC.  It will continue to count him as present population because he is already supposed to be seeking you out for a conversation (as long as you're in the same worldspace).

 

I also noticed that neither of these NPCs ever approached on their own, but always interrupted your hotkey with their talk actions.  Were you in a hurry maybe?

 

I'll add more debug to the next copy to try and pin it down.

 

EDIT:  I think I may have found part of the not approaching problem at least.  Attempted fix in the next copy.

EDITx2: New one up.  Might solve the approach issue.  Untested.

EDITx3: And..... I think I found the sandbox not clearing problem if you per chance had Jamel relax while at home.  Working on it now.

EDITx4: New one up.  Hopefully solves both issues.

 

Thanks for clearing more things up for me, you would think in all the time I've played this mod I would know but there's many things I overlook, don't and learn through discovery.

All my hours in FNV these days is thanks to this mod mainly with other sexout mods, I keep it fresh with new characters, alternate start and roleplays, Haven't played Fallout 4 for a month.

 

Yes it was a mix of A & B depending on the SOI NPC and makes sense, as does this which I think explains Jamel's activity and the rest.

 

Going to make sure I don't hotkey any SOI NPC that is about to sit or getting up or move into/out of any sandbox idle such as heating up hands at fire barrels.

 

Does the commit level show in console debug? I looked and couldn't see it if it does, does it only show if there is a commit level with a SOI NPC maybe?

I don't have a way of knowing the commit level with a certain NPC? I enabled all the debugs and walked around SOI NPCs for 5 minutes and then scrolled through debug console and couldn't see anything relating to it, or I'm just blind and dumb lol.

 

Most likely, once I get a successful barter with a customer I head straight to the private fuck room in the back to do business, how ever if there's a Talk! to be done first I will walk to that SOI NPC that wants to talk, hotkey to see what they want and then resume walking to the private fuck room with only the patron following of course.

 

Got the newest version installed and as I like to do, fresh save so I'll keep an eye out for any issues and have scof running 24/7 to catch them if they do.

 

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Question/request relating to apparel:

 

 

 

 

Noticed that if I'm not wearing a clothing/armor item marked in GECK as Upperbody I'll always get "Breasts:Chest!" and "Sleazy:Slutty!".

You also won't get the [Wear] option in SOI [Apparel Settings] which let's you set [Outfit] > [Accentuate] features.

Seperate clothing pieces do not have the [Accentuate] option, and because of this SOI treats you as nude in a sense and that's likely intended, fair enough.

 

I'm wearing seperate pieces of clothing items to make up my overall outfit (overlay on top my body) from CoitoErgoSum mod. In a literal sense I am covered up, wearing a bra, have a skirt and underwear, gecko skin tribal top that's more like a dress and a loin cloth to cover my ass and front and some prewar street shoes.

 

I have it set so when a sex act happens the underwear and loin cloth get un-equipped while the shoes and dress/top itself stays on since then the ass and pussy area is then open to fucking, I like this flexibility compared to whole one-piece clothing/armor that gets un-equipped and me fully nude.

 

These seperate clothing pieces do not have a body attached to them if viewed in NIFSkope and the only way I see around this is to merge all these pieces into one, add a body and in GECK mark it as Upperbody, I do not know my way around NIFSkope to do this I only use it to view NIFs.

 

So, curious cat asks could anything be done about this...? as this is negatively affecting my PC (Respect stats decrease etc).

If the "Breasts:Chest!" and "Sleazy:Slutty!" weren't being set as a result of not having an Upperbody clothing/armor item equipped this would not be a problem in my case. Thought I'd ask you about this first before I did something stupid like dissect SexoutIntimacy.esm and try stop it if possible.

 

 

[t3589]

 

Thanks for clearing more things up for me, you would think in all the time I've played this mod I would know but there's many things I overlook, don't and learn through discovery.

All my hours in FNV these days is thanks to this mod mainly with other sexout related mods lol, I keep it fresh with new various characters, alternate start and roleplays, haven't touched Fallout 4 in a month.

 

Yes it was a mix of A & B depending on the SOI NPC and makes sense, as does this which I think explains Jamel's activity and the rest.

 

Going to make sure I don't hotkey any SOI NPC that is about to sit or getting up or move into any sandbox idle such as heating up hands at fire barrels.

 

Does the commit level show in console debug? I looked and couldn't see it if it does, does it only show if there is a commit level with a SOI NPC maybe?

I don't have a way of knowing the commit level with a certain NPC? I enabled all the debugs and walked around SOI NPCs for 5 minutes and then scrolled through debug console and couldn't see anything relating to it, or I'm just blind and dumb lol.

 

Most likely, once I get a successful barter with a customer I head straight to the private fuck room in the back to do business, how ever if there's a Talk! to be done first I will walk to that SOI NPC that wants to talk, hotkey to see what they want and then resume walking to the private fuck room.

 

Got the newest version installed and as I like to do, fresh save so I'll keep an eye out for any issues and have scof running 24/7 to catch them if they do.

 

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Question/request relating to apparel:

 

 

 

 

Noticed that if I'm not wearing a clothing/armor item marked in GECK as Upperbody I'll always get "Breasts:Chest!" and "Sleazy:Slutty!".

You also won't get the [Wear] option in SOI [Apparel Settings] which let's you set [Outfit] > [Accentuate] features.

Seperate clothing pieces do not have the [Accentuate] option, and because of this SOI treats you as nude in a sense and that's likely intended, fair enough.

 

I'm wearing seperate pieces of clothing items to make up my overall outfit (overlay on top my body) from CoitoErgoSum mod. In a literal sense I am covered up, wearing a bra, have a skirt and underwear, gecko skin tribal top that's more like a dress and a loin cloth to cover my ass and front and some prewar street shoes.

 

I have it set so when a sex act happens the underwear and loin cloth get un-equipped while the shoes and dress/top itself stays on since then the ass and pussy area is then open to fucking, I like this flexibility compared to whole one-piece clothing/armor that gets un-equipped and me fully nude.

 

These seperate clothing pieces do not have a body attached to them if viewed in NIFSkope and the only way I see around this is to merge all these pieces into one, add a body and in GECK mark it as Upperbody, I do not know my way around NIFSkope to do this I only use it to view NIFs.

 

So, curious cat asks could anything be done about this...? as this is negatively affecting me.

If the "Breasts:Chest!" and "Sleazy:Slutty!" weren't being set as a result of not having an Upperbody clothing/armor item equipped this would not be a problem in my case. Thought I'd ask you about this first before I did something stupid like dissect SexoutIntimacy.esm and try stop it if possible.

 

 

 

 

You and I both.  It's nearly impossible to experience every angle of this mod in a single play through.  I still haven't even bought FO4, and I'm not in a huge rush to do so either.

 

Feel free to hotkey whenever now.  I put a catch in the latest copy that fails the hotkey if they are in the process of positioning.  It was never a matter of 'hotkeying them during this will break things'.  It just seemed like with some of the problems I've run into, it always seemed to be present.  More suspicion than anything.

 

Casual Dialog = 1, Lover Dialog = 2, Partner Dialog = 3, Spouse Dialog = 4.  Also you would know if either the PC or the NPC proposed and then you agreed to be their... whatever.  If you engage in sex with them, they should at least be 2 except in a few circumstances.

 

Actually you should do as normal.  We don't want to skirt around bugs, but rather we want to face them head on until they disappear.  I think the latest copy should fix the problem you are referring to.

 

It should sometimes peg you as topless instead of nude.  Though I don't know how much I can do for custom piecemeal clothing.  It really depends on the clothing authors standards.  If they put things in an unorthodox slot, or lack thereof, I may be able to mitigate it somewhat, but I definitely can't account for all of them (unless they are incorporated into SCR and/or Sexout Store).

 

Editing the esm isn't going to help you there either.  Re-writing the esm with a bunch of brand new functions/lists, maybe.  What does clothing eval say about these items?

 

My knee jerk question would be 'Is the PC in fact wearing something on their upperbody?  If so, why isn't it correctly assigned to the upperbody slot?'.  Then again I don't use any piece meal clothing at all.

 

I'll look into a solution.  A link to the clothing wouldn't hurt.

[ketiax]

Quick question, is there any way to add NPC into the mod aside from using Auto Add and Add Nearby? I've tried adding Gomorrah's Receptionist with Add Nearby (and I assume North Vegas NPC includes everyone in the Strip) but the mod doesn't add her. If I get close to other NPC in Gomorrah the mod adds them though.

[t3589]

Quick question, is there any way to add NPC into the mod aside from using Auto Add and Add Nearby? I've tried adding Gomorrah's Receptionist with Add Nearby (and I assume North Vegas NPC includes everyone in the Strip) but the mod doesn't add her. If I get close to other NPC in Gomorrah the mod adds them though.

 

The receptionist is reserved for optional content.  North Vegas only includes North Vegas.  The only auto adds on the strip currently are via performances.  You can add NPCs individually with the settings dialog (Left Shift + Hotkey).

[7KeysCurtain]

You and I both.  It's nearly impossible to experience every angle of this mod in a single play through.  I still haven't even bought FO4, and I'm not in a huge rush to do so either.

 

Feel free to hotkey whenever now.  I put a catch in the latest copy that fails the hotkey if they are in the process of positioning.  It was never a matter of 'hotkeying them during this will break things'.  It just seemed like with some of the problems I've run into, it always seemed to be present.  More suspicion than anything.

 

Casual Dialog = 1, Lover Dialog = 2, Partner Dialog = 3, Spouse Dialog = 4.  Also you would know if either the PC or the NPC proposed and then you agreed to be their... whatever.  If you engage in sex with them, they should at least be 2 except in a few circumstances.

 

Actually you should do as normal.  We don't want to skirt around bugs, but rather we want to face them head on until they disappear.  I think the latest copy should fix the problem you are referring to.

 

It should sometimes peg you as topless instead of nude.  Though I don't know how much I can do for custom piecemeal clothing.  It really depends on the clothing authors standards.  If they put things in an unorthodox slot, or lack thereof, I may be able to mitigate it somewhat, but I definitely can't account for all of them (unless they are incorporated into SCR and/or Sexout Store).

 

Editing the esm isn't going to help you there either.  Re-writing the esm with a bunch of brand new functions/lists, maybe.  What does clothing eval say about these items?

 

My knee jerk question would be 'Is the PC in fact wearing something on their upperbody?  If so, why isn't it correctly assigned to the upperbody slot?'.  Then again I don't use any piece meal clothing at all.

 

I'll look into a solution.  A link to the clothing wouldn't hurt.

 

Agreed, part of the reason why I've been gladly able to create new characters to roleplay with the SOI layer to make things interesting.

Boy, the Mojave Wasteland is just a fascinating place, isn't it? You never know what'll happen next. (even more so with SOI, lol)

 

That's good to hear and if it potentially gets rid of problems even better, worked well in some of my short testing around heavy sandbox/idle areas.

 

Where in debug do these numbers show just to be clear?

 

Sir, yes sir!

 

 

 

 

 

I was exaggerating in the moment it's not something I can actually do since GECK-PU doesn't work for me and hasn't for a long time regardless of various attemps to make it work, all I can do is view mods in FNVEdit and edit what's possible that doesn't require script re-compiling. No worries.

 

Good news, turns out CoitoErgoSum (the mod where I'm getting all my piecemeal clothing from) has Bodysuits of all the 7 body types in the mod.

They're all set in the Upperbody slot in GECK and SOI does give me [Outfit] > [Accentuate] features and no longer am I considered topless/semi-nude/nude w/e or get "Breasts:Chest!" and "Sleazy:Slutty!". What a relief and now I can happily piecemeal and not let you waste time with this for me.

 

So now I plan on playing a licensed prostitute-run with SOI in Gormorrah (lower area) which is an area I haven't done. Since I do use a few population mods before turning on SOI I will tfc around the place and console disable a good handful of NPCs, mainly get rid of all clones and make it so it's majority male population and leave only dancers/prostitutes, (more attention for me!) and of course doing all this will also help reduce the workload on SOI and FNV/PC. Auto-Adds OFF I will manually go around and add them and then give everyone a unique name set cycle to full, stalkers default/classic (make sure CHR is not 10 this time lol) and set sexy/prostitute in SOI Apparel and make some caps, got plenty of BunX & Douches.

Will have the scof bug catcher running as I play. Thanks.

[t3589]

 

Agreed, part of the reason why I've been gladly able to create new characters to roleplay with the SOI layer to make things interesting.

Boy, the Mojave Wasteland is just a fascinating place, isn't it? You never know what'll happen next. (even more so with SOI, lol)

 

That's good to hear and if it potentially gets rid of problems even better, worked well in some of my short testing around heavy sandbox/idle areas.

 

Where in debug do these numbers show just to be clear or called?

 

Sir, yes sir!

 

 

 

 

 

I was exaggerating in the moment it's not something I can actually do since GECK-PU doesn't work for me and hasn't for a long time regardless of various attemps to make it work, all I can do is view mods in FNVEdit and edit what's possible that doesn't require script re-compiling. No worries.

 

Good news, turns out CoitoErgoSum (the mod where I'm getting all my piecemeal clothing from) has Bodysuits of all the 7 body types in the mod.

They're all set in the Upperbody slot in GECK and SOI does give me [Outfit] > [Accentuate] features and no longer am I considered topless/semi-nude/nude w/e or get "Breasts:Chest!" and "Sleazy:Slutty!". What a relief and now I can happily piecemeal.

 

So now I plan on playing a licensed prostitute-run with SOI in Gormorrah (lower area) which is an area I haven't done. Since I do use a few population mods before turning on SOI I will tfc around the place and console disable a good handful of NPCs, mainly get rid of all clones and make it so it's majority male population and leave only women dancers/prostitutes, (more attention for me!) and of course doing all this this will also help reduce the workload on SOI and FNV/PC. Auto-Adds OFF I will manually go around and add them and then give everyone a unique name set cycle to full, stalkers default/classic (make sure CHR is not 10 this time lol) and set sexy/prostitute in SOI Apparel and make some caps, got plenty of BunX & Douches.

Will have the scof bug catcher running as I play. Thanks.

 

 

I don't think it does show in debug unless they run through the compatibility evaluation.  Didn't really seem necessary as they all start at 1, and to get to 2 or greater takes interaction from the PC that you would definitely know about.

 

Also, the hotkey greeting should always tell you where you stand.  I'm sure you've noticed that I've condensed a lot of the debug in order to keep it readable at a glance.  The more debug I put in, the less likely you'll be able to check it 'in flight'.  If I added everything, you'd never be able to check it without scof or some other tool after the fact.

 

Remember the purpose of the debug isn't for the convenience of gameplay, but to pin down bugs.  I wouldn't want to encourage players to glance at debug as part of playing the game, but if you need it for something you think is going wrong I can add it back in.  You could alternatively check any of the stats in the second post via the console.

 

nx_getevfl "SOIntimacy:CommitmentLvl"  should return the info.

 

lol@#I'veBeenMemedAgain  I'm not trying to be bossy, and of course feel free to play how you like.  I just meant that avoidance doesn't really help correct broken stuff.

 

That is a relief.  Here I was formulating a plan of attack to get partial clothing working correctly (a hamper maybe?).  I expect this issue will be revisited at some point, so I'll probably still have a look at it and see what I can come up with.

 

The Strip is still WIP in parts so expect things there to change eventually.  At some point some of the prostitutes there will run you off as competition, as well as proposition compatible PCs on their own.  Much of the mechanics are already in for this.

 

Also note that The Strip is one of the few places where you can have your licensed revoked.  The establishments there have a rigid contract to work that territory, and they will likely deal with any outside competition in the same way corporations do (they sic the government/legal system on you).  In short, working The Strip as an independent will require a lot of discretion, unless you're affiliated with one of the contracted establishments.

 

No sweat.  I really appreciate your feedback.

 

P.S.  Just an aside, I'm using The Strip Open in my current play through.  Haven't gotten there yet but we'll see how it goes.

Edited February 1, 2016 by t3589

[7KeysCurtain]

I don't think it does show in debug unless they run through the compatibility evaluation.  Didn't really seem necessary as they all start at 1, and to get to 2 or greater takes interaction from the PC that you would definitely know about.

 

Also, the hotkey greeting should always tell you where you stand.  I'm sure you've noticed that I've condensed a lot of the debug in order to keep it readable at a glance.  The more debug I put in, the less likely you'll be able to check it 'in flight'.  If I added everything, you'd never be able to check it without scof or some other tool after the fact.

 

Remember the purpose of the debug isn't for the convenience of gameplay, but to pin down bugs.  I wouldn't want to encourage players to glance at debug as part of playing the game, but if you need it for something you think is going wrong I can add it back in.  You could alternatively check any of the stats in the second post via the console.

 

nx_getevfl "SOIntimacy:CommitmentLvl"  should return the info.

 

lol@#I'veBeenMemedAgain  I'm not trying to be bossy, and of course feel free to play how you like.  I just meant that avoidance doesn't really help correct broken stuff.

 

That is a relief.  Here I was formulating a plan of attack to get partial clothing working correctly (a hamper maybe?).  I expect this issue will be revisited at some point, so I'll probably still have a look at it and see what I can come up with.

 

The Strip is still WIP in parts so expect things there to change eventually.  At some point some of the prostitutes there will run you off as competition, as well as proposition compatible PCs on their own.  Much of the mechanics are already in for this.

 

Also note that The Strip is one of the few places where you can have your licensed revoked.  The establishments there have a rigid contract to work that territory, and they will likely deal with any outside competition in the same way corporations do (they sic the government/legal system on you).  In short, working The Strip as an independent will require a lot of discretion, unless you're affiliated with one of the contracted establishments.

 

No sweat.  I really appreciate your feedback.

 

True that and I understand, this only got brought up when I had that run in with discovering that some of my patrons no longer had [Prostitution] as an option as their commitment raised (or reached daily limit) and the only sex they wanted (or I could give) was consensual sex (not paid sex). Rather just wanted to be sure for future whoring.

 

Yes I've noticed, I look at this as a double edged sword (in my opinion) how ever, such as not being able to track down a bug because certain disabled debug capabilities in SOI aren't on or added to help/assist you in squashing it. I've noticed other Sexout mods have levels of debug that can be set, perhaps this is an option that can be done rather than completely cut out certains debug that could be helpful. Sort of how you've seperated Scan & Registry. This isn't me saying 'add everything!!!'.

 

Of course and I'm guilty to a degree in using it help me "mind read" certain SOI NPCs at certain times when it matters to me, and to verify that my apparel looks is correct or that something I don't know about is causing negative results, it's more of a checklist for me that I'll open up everynow and then to check all is good, any weird stats and I like to figure out why. Like just lately It's thanks to debug I discovered why I'm being targeted by horny men so much is because my breasts where exposed and I looked slutty thanks to that, If debug didn't have that info I'd probably be thinking something else is wrong.

This mod is in a WIP constant-state-of-change and since I start fresh saves / characters often (or if you request it) to experiment certain roads and results of "what if/if I X" in SOI when testing it's about lab rats (SOI NPCs) and me the scientist. I don't have just 1 generic playstyle, I always be sure to mix things up in terms of gameplay and mixture of roleplay, it's never the same.

 

I agree and apologies for implying I was going to do that, I won't be if I can help it. But thanks to the few latest revisions you did things are better now.

Not SOI's fault and it's not exactly an issue.. is it? Rather not drain your time on this when there are better things in SOI to be working on, but if you do best of luck, I'll be happy to test this out if you need it but if worse comes to worse and nothing can be done (at no fault of your own) then I and people will just have to make sure to have an Upperbody item equipped.

 

Sounds interesting! The Strip is the place I've spent the least of my time with or without SOI so in future sounds like it'll be a place to hang out for me.

To be clear I'm not whoring out on the actual strip (road) outside the establishments, I'm licensed whoring down in lower brimstone of Gormorrah.

I can't if I wanted to because the ":Following!" time isn't enough for me to lead me and my patron (street level) to the fuck rooms & beds down there (Lower Brimstone).

Edit: (I don't use Open Strip but will if you would like me to.)

 

Always.

[t3589]

 

True that and I understand, this only got brought up when I had that run in with discovering that some of my patrons no longer had [Prostitution] as an option as their commitment raised (or reached daily limit) and the only sex they wanted (or I could give) was consensual sex (not paid sex). Rather just wanted to be sure for future whoring.

 

Yes I've noticed, I look at this as a double edged sword (in my opinion) how ever, such as not being able to track down a bug because certain disabled debug capabilities in SOI aren't on or added to help/assist you in squashing it. I've noticed other Sexout mods have levels of debug that can be set, perhaps this is an option that can be done rather than completely cut out certains debug that could be helpful. Sort of how you've seperated Scan & Registry. This isn't me saying 'add everything!!!'.

 

Of course and I'm guilty to a degree in using it help me "mind read" certain SOI NPCs at certain times when it matters to me, and to verify that my apparel looks is correct or that something I don't know about is causing negative results, it's more of a checklist for me that I'll open up everynow and then to check all is good, any weird stats and I like to figure out why. Like just lately It's thanks to debug I discovered why I'm being targeted by horny men so much is because my breasts where exposed and I looked slutty thanks to that, If debug didn't have that info I'd probably be thinking something else is wrong.

This mod is in a WIP constant-state-of-change and since I start fresh saves / characters often (or if you request it) to experiment certain roads and results of "what if/if I X" in SOI when testing it's about lab rats (SOI NPCs) and me the scientist. I don't have just 1 generic playstyle, I always be sure to mix things up in terms of gameplay and mixture of roleplay, it's never the same.

 

I agree and apologies for implying I was going to do that, I won't be if I can help it. But thanks to the few latest revisions you did things are better now.

Not SOI's fault and it's not exactly an issue.. is it? Rather not drain your time on this when there are better things in SOI to be working on, but if you do best of luck, I'll be happy to test this out if you need it but if worse comes to worse and nothing can be done (at no fault of your own) then I and people will just have to make sure to have an Upperbody item equipped.

 

Sounds interesting! The Strip is the place I've spent the least of my time with or without SOI so in future sounds like it'll be a place to hang out for me.

To be clear I'm not whoring out on the actual strip (road) outside the establishments, I'm licensed whoring down in lower brimstone of Gormorrah.

I can't if I wanted to because the ":Following!" time isn't enough for me to lead me and my patron (street level) to the fuck rooms & beds down there (Lower Brimstone).

Edit: (I don't use Open Strip but will if you would like me to.)

 

Always.

 

 

The state of the debug is mainly because I'm lazy, and I tend to only do what is necessary for me to test/fix.  The other factor is that there is so much going on in these scripts, that for me to add debug often means increasing the code two fold (600 lines becomes 1200 lines).

 

There are a lot of alternatives already in for NPCs when they want sex but you've reached your proposition limit.  You could say [Maybe].  You could make out and then shoot for the out by trying to score too early.  You can also flat out reject/ignore them.  The point is that you shouldn't feel stuck or anxious when a patron asks for sex.  Later I may add some sort of appointment system (sort of a prostitution variation on the meet later for dates system).

 

Another thing I haven't heard you mention is anonymity.  This is something I haven't really tested thoroughly, but you might want to try it.  I put it in so my PC could live a sort of 'double life' with an alter ego.  Unfortunately I never seem to get far enough to really get into it before I'm starting a new game for one reason or another.

 

It works like this:

- Get a mask.

- Get some clothing that no NPC has ever seen you wearing with your mask off.

- Set that outfit aside, and only wear it when you have your mask on.  This is your alter ego.

- Commit levels greater than 2 will recognize you, so avoid them when you try working anonymously.

- If the NPC has seen you wear the outfit before (unmasked), they will recognize you.

- Equip your outfit/mask combo while you're alone somewhere.

- Go to some alternative location and try and work the area anonymously.

- When finished, go home and change and go back to your 'regular' life.

 

You should then be able to keep your public life separate from your prostitute life (in secret).  You also might want to set the mask to 'do not undress' in apparel settings.  I can't remember if I automated it or not.  But I do know if your mask comes off during sex they will recognize you.

 

Recognition isn't altogether a bad thing, but it does allow every negative rumor/stat/opinion to be applied to your PC.  While when you're anonymous, they can't attach any of these things to your person.