Sexout Intimacy

7KeysCurtain · February 14, 2016

Well I've added some debug for the next copy that should tell you when the ref is invalid and try to remove them from the date list (this is the script error you posted). I'm still not sure what happened though. Could be the re-spawn problem. Might be related to renaming them. I'll try dating some renamed NPCs to see if I can find anything.

Who was Karl before he was Karl exactly?

Thanks, I'm not sure either.

Would it be advised at this point NOT to SOI enable any NPC from IWS (Increased Wasteland Spawns) or rePOPULATED Wasteland?

And only SOI enable Vanilla NPCs due to the various known or unknown issues relating to non-vanilla NPCs?

*t3589* · February 14, 2016

Thanks, I'm not sure either.

Would it be advised at this point NOT to SOI enable any NPC from IWS (Increased Wasteland Spawns) or rePOPULATED Wasteland?

And only SOI enable Vanilla NPCs due to the various known or unknown issues relating to non-vanilla NPCs?

I just tested it with a renamed NPC. Seemed to work fine.

I used to use repop wasteland but I don't remember this specific issue. I stopped using it because it's a complete mess and imo is an outdated and broken mod (check it out for yourself in FNVEdit). I think IWS does re-spawn them, not positive.

I'm not going to say don't use them, but I will say that I do not use them and I haven't seen these kind of issues since I dropped them. I've never seen this issue with popcasinos either, but I dropped popcasinos to try out Gomorrah Redesigned from NVRedesigned, which adds some NPCs to the casinos (never had a problem with pop casinos other than a bit of lag).

The way I play is also a factor. I tend to establish very few relationships, and don't feel the need to add everyone I see (especially random NPCs by the wayside that are not even remotely related to my PCs story line). Favoring quality over quantity.

7KeysCurtain · February 14, 2016

After re-loading a prior save everything went well this time, SOI checked for dates as displayed in a top left message, showed "Karl (2100C1F4):fnSOIDateMove:DateSelected!" He walked towards me and said [Date Now?] I said yes and we got teleported to the home interior landmark I set and did the Date activity successfully.

Scrapped rePOP, generally been well with IWS and all the IWS SOI enabled NPCs I've enabled are still in their original locations, same apparel and same name I set them in SOI re-namer (& no lost stats) so I'll keep IWS otherwise the Wasteland just feels empty to me personally, as my maps of activity show I generally just hang around 3 - 4 locations and enable the NPCs inside just those locations only and interact with them as I go back and forth between them roleplaying what ever it is I'm playing as at the time.

In the end it was a spontaneous issue - one that I've never had before in all my time of SOI (Dating).

*t3589* · February 14, 2016

After re-loading a prior save everything went well this time, SOI checked for dates as displayed in a top left message, showed "Karl (2100C1F4):fnSOIDateMove:DateSelected!" He walked towards me and said [Date Now?] I said yes and we got teleported to the home interior landmark I set and did the Date activity successfully.

Scrapped rePOP, generally been well with IWS and all the IWS SOI enabled NPCs I've enabled are still in their original locations, same apparel and same name I set them in SOI re-namer (& no lost stats) so I'll keep IWS otherwise the Wasteland just feels empty to me personally, as my maps of activity show I generally just hang around 3 - 4 locations and enable the NPCs inside just those locations only and interact with them as I go back and forth between them roleplaying what ever it is I'm playing as at the time.

In the end it was a spontaneous issue - one that I've never had before in all my time of SOI (Dating).

Weird. You should try Underwater Home. I've got a quick start esp I use for it, if you'd like I can send it to you. When I begin a game, I just place the entrance right there in Goodsprings by the truck below Docs house. Then as I move through the wasteland, I move the entrance to new locations where I'd like to frequent at that moment. Makes testing a lot easier when you can take your home with you, plus it's a great player home mod (hot tub).

7KeysCurtain · February 14, 2016

I haven't tried Underwater Home in years, I do use the Alternative Start mod but always select it so I start off/spawn in Goodsprings.

I remember one time I did a "always on the move" road-trip style SOI playthrough, I took a Portable Tent (mod) with me that I slept in and took SOI NPCs inside along the way.

(Basically a portable home, just not as nice as Underwater Home of course.)

Sure thing with that esp, do SOI NPCs take advantage/use anything inside the Underwater Home? (General sandbox, seating, hot tub? etc).

At the moment it wouldn't fit my roleplay/immersion (cash strapped character) but I can easily start another fresh save and make it so it is.

*t3589* · February 14, 2016

I haven't tried Underwater Home in years, I do use the Alternative Start mod but always select it so I start off/spawn in Goodsprings.

I remember one time I did a "always on the move" road-trip style SOI playthrough, I took a Portable Tent (mod) with me that I slept in and took SOI NPCs inside along the way.

(Basically a portable home, just not as nice as Underwater Home of course.)

Sure thing with that esp, do SOI NPCs take advantage/use anything inside the Underwater Home? (General sandbox, seating, hot tub? etc).

At the moment it wouldn't fit my roleplay/immersion (cash strapped character) but I can easily start another fresh save and make it so it is.

Trudy loves the hot tub. Doc Mitchell passes out on the bed and I can't get rid of him. Easy Pete helps himself to my food stock. So yeah, it's pathed. I'll send you the file tomorrow.

MRM18870 · February 14, 2016

I did change some of the population count calculations recently trying to fix stalkers. Where was the location exactly? Note that with the latest copy, if any NPCs are very near, they'll count as present population. This includes NPCs in adjacent rooms. The distance may need adjusting though. For example: If Josie is in the restroom next to the restroom you're in, she's going to know what you're up to, and therefore will count as present population.

If you use the [Follow] option from the greeting, they won't follow you long. If you're seeking privacy, they should follow you for 3 minutes roughly. But it does expire if you take too long.

Also, you might want to look into a mod that modifies timescale. The default timescale is 30, so if you're playing on default time will pass rather quickly, and thereby increase the chances of absences (if a mission or two is taking you several days to accomplish, absence may become a problem for you).

Although absence shouldn't really hit you very hard in the trust department, unless you come back to a ton of rumors, which in turn could increase PC reputation, which in turn will definitely hit trust hard.

The location I had trouble to find a private place was King's School of Impersonation - Freeside is also a problem, I went now always to the old station, which is far enough from any NPC.

I had an other problem, that might be related to this. I had a drink with Josie in the Saloon recently, but I was unable even to talk to her unless Harry leaves the Saloon. The mod was simply to busy processing other NPCs ( according to the log ) and it seems that the mod sometimes prefer other NPCs then the one you have an activity with. This happens to me again with Pacer in the Wrangler. He did not react to the hot key any more, and in the log I only saw Santiago ( who was on the other side of the room ) and some random Gambler processing, while Pacer was completely ignored.

The following did not last 3 minutes, it stopped just after the first try.

Well the absence itself did not hit hard, and I don't had much rumors - but one wrong rumor seems to be enough.

I will look for the mod with the timescale - however, is it possible to make your partner/Spouse a companion - this could avoid long absence times

*t3589* · February 14, 2016

The location I had trouble to find a private place was King's School of Impersonation - Freeside is also a problem, I went now always to the old station, which is far enough from any NPC.

I had an other problem, that might be related to this. I had a drink with Josie in the Saloon recently, but I was unable even to talk to her unless Harry leaves the Saloon. The mod was simply to busy processing other NPCs ( according to the log ) and it seems that the mod sometimes prefer other NPCs then the one you have an activity with. This happens to me again with Pacer in the Wrangler. He did not react to the hot key any more, and in the log I only saw Santiago ( who was on the other side of the room ) and some random Gambler processing, while Pacer was completely ignored.

The following did not last 3 minutes, it stopped just after the first try.

Well the absence itself did not hit hard, and I don't had much rumors - but one wrong rumor seems to be enough.

I will look for the mod with the timescale - however, is it possible to make your partner/Spouse a companion - this could avoid long absence times

Try the new one and turn on scan debug. It will tell you exactly who is aware of the PCs presence, as well as the current population count. Then if you find an NPC who is aware of the PCs presence that should not be, let me know.

Is Josie compatible? If not, she'll take longer to process than compatible NPCs. The hotkey should always work, and if it doesn't, it should tell you in debug the reason.

No clue on failed following. Cannot reproduce. Will keep trying.

One rumor is not enough (takes at least 3), unless you're still playing a save from an old copy. When was the last time you began the mod fresh? If any NPC has a PCRep of 0, you need to set them to 1 or restart the mod. If any NPC has an action profile set to 0 (nx_getevfl "SOIntimacy:GenderPriority"), you need to restart the mod. These two recent changes WILL break things if you don't tend to them.

Companions should work, but some of the vanilla companions will probably need special attention. Which I'll get to eventually. Though you should note that 'no absence at all' can turn out just as bad as 'long absence'. Short absences are a good thing.

EDIT: If any NPC from SOIR doesn't set the action profile correctly, that NPC will be broken until Bruce fixes the initial settings, or you set it manually.

Edited February 14, 2016 by t3589

liniul · February 14, 2016

Hello,

Just a quick question I would like answered 'cause 60 pages is far to much to read and Im a bit lazy but lovable too

How the hell do you get a date with this mod! I want more intimacy and less talking . Thank you in advance

*t3589* · February 14, 2016

New one up. Fixed a few things related to absences. Also re-wrote spunk tracking. Now spunk is tracked to specific locations on the PC body, and will be hidden if covered with clothing. For example: If the PC has pants on spunk leaking onto the crotch or anus can no longer be detected by the NPC.

For the most part just washing up should now do the trick (no douche needed). This along with the absence tweaks should alleviate a lot of bad rumors.

*t3589* · February 14, 2016

@MRM18870 - Found the follow bug and was able to reproduce it. Should be fixed now. Let me know.

EDIT: You're not crazy! lol Thank you for sticking to your guns and reporting it.

Edited February 14, 2016 by t3589

JerseyWalrus · February 15, 2016

Hey T, how do you get someone to follow you somewhere else for a date? The past couple dates my character has gone with Sunny have been at the Prospector Saloon since I can't seem to get them anywhere else.

Also, is Kiss supposed to vanish after one kiss? I was able to get one kiss from Sunny and a Maybe Later to a Make Out but they never showed up again. Grope has been in its stead.

MRM18870 · February 15, 2016

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Is Josie compatible? If not, she'll take longer to process than compatible NPCs. The hotkey should always work, and if it doesn't, it should tell you in debug the reason.

No clue on failed following. Cannot reproduce. Will keep trying.

Josie was compatible and I don't think it is a SOIR problem, because it happens with regular NPCs too. It happens ( not always ) when there are many other NPCs around and in the debug a lot of