JonathanLS Posted August 12, 2014 Author Posted August 12, 2014 Hey, I am very new here. Joined today. Got some of the mods because I think they appeared to be funny, they mainly was also. After testing shit out for like an hour, it kind of bothered me that rape was the only possible scenario... Like it's kind of weird that when my character is horny AND the npc, the two of them just can't have sex. it has to be either one of them raping the other one. (Using the Arouse mod). So I searched now a bit for a mod that actually enables sex, not JUST rape. Is there anything of that here? I mean I found bestiality and what not, so this is a really weird modding site! (not judging) Btw I really do believe the mod "Defeat" was hilarious! You should check out Sexlab-Romance, been a while since anyone posted in it's thread as it's working solid, so it might be a page or two back in the SL-Downloads section, but it's got what you want. Aswell there's things like Spouses-Enhanced and the like, so it's definately on the site, you just need to find it Oddly enough, I am into light BDSM type things though, but for me it's always consensual and that is really the difference I guess. If I used sex mods at all, it'd probably be something like that, or maybe one of those lover's comfort type mods. Not into "reality" mods that add horny dudes (or others) to come and attempt raping my female characters. I already have to worry about those realities in real life, last place I want to think about it is in a game. But, I guess perhaps I'm just a bit too sensitive when it comes to that. Mostly for... personal reasons that shouldn't need explaining. Whilst certainly there are those with rape-fantasies, it is probably a much smaller component to this than a first glance might indicate. Point is that we're modding Skyrim, a game which consists of mostly combat. There is non-combat content in it unlike the average shooter game or the like, but most of the content and actual gameplay revolves around combat. Couple this with how difficult it is to create any kind of engaging experiance with random townspeople who only say the same couple of lines over and over, and there is actually a far more practical reason behind why "rape" mods are such a big thing. They are easier to make and can be used in far more gameplay than anything else, just due to the nature of the game we're modding here. I know that's why i use them. It let's me get some worth out of Sexlab, it spices up the gameplay so it's not all "twat bandit over head till they ragdoll", i'm into the DD mods and it integrates well with that, and it's often a good alternative to the game just killing you when you fail. But i also use SL-Romance and quest-mods that enable SL use outside of combat. Oh, and as an aside for the whole GeekFeminism malarky.. go tell it to all the great female developers we have here, including all the awesome gal's i'm working along side on the DD mod, whom often seem to have even raunchier mod ideas than myself Huh? Even raunchier? Where?
RunicGray Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Hey, I am very new here. Joined today. Got some of the mods because I think they appeared to be funny, they mainly was also. After testing shit out for like an hour, it kind of bothered me that rape was the only possible scenario... Like it's kind of weird that when my character is horny AND the npc, the two of them just can't have sex. it has to be either one of them raping the other one. (Using the Arouse mod). So I searched now a bit for a mod that actually enables sex, not JUST rape. Is there anything of that here? I mean I found bestiality and what not, so this is a really weird modding site! (not judging) Btw I really do believe the mod "Defeat" was hilarious! You should check out Sexlab-Romance, been a while since anyone posted in it's thread as it's working solid, so it might be a page or two back in the SL-Downloads section, but it's got what you want. Aswell there's things like Spouses-Enhanced and the like, so it's definately on the site, you just need to find it Oddly enough, I am into light BDSM type things though, but for me it's always consensual and that is really the difference I guess. If I used sex mods at all, it'd probably be something like that, or maybe one of those lover's comfort type mods. Not into "reality" mods that add horny dudes (or others) to come and attempt raping my female characters. I already have to worry about those realities in real life, last place I want to think about it is in a game. But, I guess perhaps I'm just a bit too sensitive when it comes to that. Mostly for... personal reasons that shouldn't need explaining. Whilst certainly there are those with rape-fantasies, it is probably a much smaller component to this than a first glance might indicate. Point is that we're modding Skyrim, a game which consists of mostly combat. There is non-combat content in it unlike the average shooter game or the like, but most of the content and actual gameplay revolves around combat. Couple this with how difficult it is to create any kind of engaging experiance with random townspeople who only say the same couple of lines over and over, and there is actually a far more practical reason behind why "rape" mods are such a big thing. They are easier to make and can be used in far more gameplay than anything else, just due to the nature of the game we're modding here. I know that's why i use them. It let's me get some worth out of Sexlab, it spices up the gameplay so it's not all "twat bandit over head till they ragdoll", i'm into the DD mods and it integrates well with that, and it's often a good alternative to the game just killing you when you fail. But i also use SL-Romance and quest-mods that enable SL use outside of combat. Oh, and as an aside for the whole GeekFeminism malarky.. go tell it to all the great female developers we have here, including all the awesome gal's i'm working along side on the DD mod, whom often seem to have even raunchier mod ideas than myself Just to add on to Coopervane's post - I have very similar tastes as those quoted and I love SexLab, so let me share some tidbits for those that are interested in the more consensual side of SL. SexLab Approach - Prospects will approach you, but you can deny them if you wish. I know there's a risk of being not liking to be denied, but that may be one of the options in the MCM menu to turn off. I'll have to double-check. SexLab Attraction Apropos / Sexlab Describe Spouses Enhanced SexLab Beast Tamer, SexLab Enchantress - stop NPCs (hostile or not) in their tracks by casting a spell for sex - single to mass orgy. For hostiles, the effect stays on them for a while so you can use the opportunity to run on by. SexLab Aroused SexLab Romance Lover's Comfort SexLab Matchmaker (or Mass Matchmaker) SexLab Release - you have urges, and sometimes you just have to work them out NOW. Masturbation on threshold mod Various Pregnancy Mods - pick your preference... Radiant Prostitution / Radiant Prostitution Tweaked / TDF Prostitution and Pimping - as far as I'm aware, these three are voluntary, paid jobs and NOT slaves. Girls are hired - you ask them flat out. You pick your clients and can say no. SexLab: Murder, Theft and Seduction (hey, it's not pretty, but it's still consensual...so you can rob/murder them afterwards.) SexLab Solutions - I'll have to check this, but it gives sexual OPTIONS - you don't have to pick them when you don't want to. They're just sexual alternatives to vanilla quests. The Sisterhood of Dibella - once in a while, the "light of Dibella" might force you to masturbate, but that's about it. Sexlab Amorous Adventures There are also a few mods in development to keep an eye out for, such as Real Courtship Project - Lovers Desire, which turns the period before marriage into something a bit more real than "Hey, I've got a necklace - YOU'VE got a necklace. LET'S DO THIS." There are less consensual / relationship-based mods for adults. There are a couple reasons, but the main two in my eyes are 1) relationships take time - we want sexy NAO! and 2) CREATING meaningful relationship-based mods takes a lot longer. They're essentially elaborate quest mods, full of dialogue and responses. And some people just don't have the time to create them.
Myst42 Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Feminist opinion - meh... I believe I can speak on a slightly different perspective, since if on one hand, I have used sex mods on some characters, my main characters have nothing to do with sex. In my fantasy, my main can be open and free about her sexuality, but I figured her more like a love story, only one eternal love that is her other half... To the date, I've never used sex mods on her. So she's a strong independent woman, now ascended to the level of a goddess. I know it's a bit of cheating, but it is her story after all, there's no way any harm could happen to her . And all the development is in part due to the things and tools I've found here at LL. I have a few other characters in which I've used a few sex mods, a bit skimpier clothing, but I still see most of them a strong. On a personal opinion, I really really hate over-sexualized bodies like DMRA for Oblivion or almost every kind of body you see in "show your character" for Skyrim as they have boobs bigger than cars, and some stuff just grosses me out. BUT Here on LL I've learn to tolerate and respect. I never had any issues with different lifestyles, but I must reckon fantasies are a different ground Even though I've seen stuff I don't like, the important part is... I no longer care Going around telling people how wrong they are, is just being an asshole, if you think they are wrong, you're entitled to your opinion, but it's nothing more than that -an opinion- Trying to moralize and act as a champion of what you believe is right just for the sake of imposing your opinion, doesn't make you right, it just makes you an intolerant idiot. It even makes you a "rapist" Yeah, that's right, you're trying to rape other people's heads with your thoughts, it's sticking something in a place where it doesn't belong I must acknowledge I sometimes felt worried about the fact that these fantasies are so sick, they could have impact in the real world, and I still don't have an answer. There is this thing called a subconscious, where sometimes, the darkness within could rise up to the surface. But for most cases, I can certainly say, that as long as people are in control of their reality, the darkness will not rise. I completely identify this with was was said. One can play a sick rape mod, but if you retain your sanity, you would never enjoy seeing it happen in reality to a fellow human being. It would most probably cause you a really really bad impression and trauma. Another point is this is the same discussion than "violence in videogames". Almost every single freaking vg is based on killing, shooting, cutting, etc etc etc... There's not a single proof that people who plays vg are more violent because they play them. In fact, it is thought that vg generate an "escape route" for violence and people who play them (sane people) are less prone to real violence. I think sex violence in vg follows the same principle Here at LL I've seen all kinds of mind realities, I've learnt about things like "gender" which is no longer defined by a chromosome and there are no longer 2 only possible choices. Gender and sexual orientation are not even the same thing anymore, you can be as much as a straight man as a bisexual female or a "straight" cross-dresser who likes to dress as a girl while still liking girls... combinations are endless and everyone has to find their own path and should be respected by who they are regardless of their preferences And in all this, I'm not even talking about how much you can learn about modding in a place where you can always ask... LL is probably on one look, a deviant site for perverts and sickos, on my look, its a place where you can learn to open your mind to new realities, to acceptance and tolerance, to a greater insight about the human mind... all of which ultimately contributes to nothing less than your own personal growth. I fell I've become a better person thanks to LL 2 cents..
redlove108 Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Rape is slowly becoming less of a stigma word than it use to years back. You now hear it when gamers insult each other and how badly they kicked each others asses. You see it mention in the BDSM community as "Rape fantasy" and so on. There is still stigma to it in the "real world" but online it's lost most of that meaning and it's pretty shocking actually. However you can't think of "Rape fantasies" the same as RL rape. It's more so a "hard fuck fantasy" than anything else. It's the guys wanting that rough, wild fuck with a girl who will fight with him. They like the wrestling, the struggling, the anger and the high energy experience it all brings. Though guys aren't the only ones who enjoy such things either. But anyway... don't worry too much about it.
Chaos63 Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 However you can't think of "Rape fantasies" the same as RL rape. It's more so a "hard fuck fantasy" than anything else. It's the guys wanting that rough, wild fuck with a girl who will fight with him. They like the wrestling, the struggling, the anger and the high energy experience it all brings. Though guys aren't the only ones who enjoy such things either. Thanks for the erection, you're the best.
windpl Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Rape is slowly becoming less of a stigma word than it use to years back. You now hear it when gamers insult each other and how badly they kicked each others asses. You see it mention in the BDSM community as "Rape fantasy" and so on. There is still stigma to it in the "real world" but online it's lost most of that meaning and it's pretty shocking actually. However you can't think of "Rape fantasies" the same as RL rape. It's more so a "hard fuck fantasy" than anything else. It's the guys wanting that rough, wild fuck with a girl who will fight with him. They like the wrestling, the struggling, the anger and the high energy experience it all brings. Though guys aren't the only ones who enjoy such things either. But anyway... don't worry too much about it. That may be true, and rough sex does have its place (why else would I like BDSM? lol). But when people call it "rape" it makes me think of someone taking someone else without their consent, with true horror and mental scarring involved. Mods of course probably don't show that but it's still the same principal to me. If it isn't rape, why even label it as such? I equally hate hearing people scream it at each other, or use it as a joke. People seem to be less sensitive to it now because of that. Sort of like being called "gay" like it's an insult. You have used a rape mod, your character is a victim, you have full awareness what will happen, but you still are going through it. So your character is raped or not?
Yuni Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Oh wow. Just gave that wiki a read. Bwah. Hahahahahaha. What a load of tripe. Welcome to the wide world of porn, ladies. Many porn things are like that. I'm not going to give those complaints the time of day. The things we do with these mods are largely to our own characters. It's fantasy fulfillment, like most porn. There's femdom stuff too... we got strapons galore in here. But I digress. We love you too, Sugar. I'm very fond of this community, I've had my home here on this site since before Skyrim came out. I've been here since it was called Eveelabs, before the Lovers System from Oblivion overwrote the name. I didn't start posting for a couple years however. Cheers, all! We're as strong as ever. =D
Chaos63 Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 You have used a rape mod, your character is a victim, you have full awareness what will happen, but you still are going through it. So your character is raped or not? It's simply a rape simulator. Anybody who fails to understand this has no business using a rape mod in the first place, thus they're out of the equation. Or are we going back to blaming violence on videogames?
cornbreadtm Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Just read the wiki... What does women having sex have to do with misogyny, sexist attitudes or female inequality? Isn't suggesting that women don't like sex; misogyny, sexist attitudes and female inequality? I just say that since only 2% of our community mains male characters and pretty much all of the mods I've used allow your character to rape or be raped meaning unless you loss every since fight you get in... you're going to be on top. That means that if any of our communities 98% female main characters has a rape mod installed, they will be the aggressor all most every time, unless of course they lose every since fight they get in. Some times feminism makes it seem like women should always be on the bottom but complaining about it. Instead of pointing out every time they're on top and commending it. It's like complaining about how Lara croft has huge breasts in her debut game instead of bragging about how huge of a badass she was compared to everyone else at the time. She was like Indiana Jones if he could to standing back flips while shotgunning t-rexes in the face...
Coopervane Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 It's more so a "hard fuck fantasy" than anything else. It's the guys wanting that rough, wild fuck with a girl who will fight with him. They like the wrestling, the struggling, the anger and the high energy experience it all brings. Though guys aren't the only ones who enjoy such things either. It also works the other way around you know
redlove108 Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 You have used a rape mod, your character is a victim, you have full awareness what will happen, but you still are going through it. So your character is raped or not? Except I don't use them because I find it highly disturbing. Like I said, I think of actual rape even if it's in a fantasy context... Just doesn't sit well with me, and that's just me. Not trying to convince anyone else otherwise. I have a hard time understanding what about actual rape is attractive. If all it is, is an attraction to rough sex then I don't see why that can't be portrayed differently I guess. But I've never installed sex mods so, I really don't know exactly how it plays out. I have no real desire to find out, though. If the whole "get raped if you're defeated" thing is what it comes with out of the box and there's no way to disable it I'd really rather not go there lol. If you're into that more power to you. Doesn't mean I have to like it myself, though. Hmm... take it a step back. Did you know that there are kidnap fantasies? The fantasy of some stranger breaking into your place and tying you up? That's the jist of the fantasy. Sometimes it goes further where sex is involved or enslavement or whatever else the person is into. This is where you get into the realm of BDSM and the literal hundreds of kinks that people explore. Some more disturbing than others. You can do a google search for disturbing kinks if your daring but be warn... it'll make your skin crawl. From what I've seen a rape fantasy usually comes after a kidnap fantasy, not always but its the usual I've seen. The attraction I have towards it stems from bondage. When your tied up, you can't do anything to protect yourself. When your with someone who you trust and knows what they are doing it's an exciting and thrilling experience. So when your done doing the usual fun stuff and want to do a roleplay.. what do you roleplay..? A kidnapping, it's about the only legit reason to be put in ropes other than you telling someone "hogtie me!". So you go play the scene out and after your all bound up and horny what comes next....? You can guess. This is where I see the "rape" fantasy originating from. Now there are other origins. I tend to be on Seond Life a lot meeting kinky people a lot. Some prefer it to just be rough, forceful, animalistic in nature. Others want that verbal humilation to be belittled and scolded the entire time; some prefer to include racism into their humilation and so on. The list goes on. I am still pretty shocked about others engaging in consual play that involves racism and financial domination. Yet I did the research and there's people who repeatedly defend both fetishes. Now this is scratching the surface. I've seen some wierd and other disturbing fetishes that I'll avoid mentioning since I don't want to be shocking or edgy. I just want you to know that this form sexual play is normal and there are other fetishes that you or I might find questionable or even disturbing but to them it's normal. Rape fantasy is just another one in the mix. It's more so a "hard fuck fantasy" than anything else. It's the guys wanting that rough, wild fuck with a girl who will fight with him. They like the wrestling, the struggling, the anger and the high energy experience it all brings. Though guys aren't the only ones who enjoy such things either. It also works the other way around you know Hahaha..! You know.. I had accidently left or enabled the option for females to rape men in Defeat on. You should've seen the look on my face when I saw Lydia and Sophia (a funny follower mod) giving it to bandits. I was looking over my shoulder hoping no one was around, I felt so guilty seeing that play out. Then I never bother to fix it for about a week. It was all fun and games until I got mounted while they were busy themselves.
RunicGray Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 You have used a rape mod, your character is a victim, you have full awareness what will happen, but you still are going through it. So your character is raped or not? Except I don't use them because I find it highly disturbing. Like I said, I think of actual rape even if it's in a fantasy context... Just doesn't sit well with me, and that's just me. Not trying to convince anyone else otherwise. I have a hard time understanding what about actual rape is attractive. If all it is, is an attraction to rough sex then I don't see why that can't be portrayed differently I guess. But I've never installed sex mods so, I really don't know exactly how it plays out. I have no real desire to find out, though. If the whole "get raped if you're defeated" thing is what it comes with out of the box and there's no way to disable it I'd really rather not go there lol. If you're into that more power to you. Doesn't mean I have to like it myself, though. Hmm... take it a step back. Did you know that there are kidnap fantasies? The fantasy of some stranger breaking into your place and tying you up? That's the jist of the fantasy. Sometimes it goes further where sex is involved or enslavement or whatever else the person is into. This is where you get into the realm of BDSM and the literal hundreds of kinks that people explore. Some more disturbing than others. You can do a google search for disturbing kinks if your daring but be warn... it'll make your skin crawl. From what I've seen a rape fantasy usually comes after a kidnap fantasy, not always but its the usual I've seen. The attraction I have towards it stems from bondage. When your tied up, you can't do anything to protect yourself. When your with someone who you trust and knows what they are doing it's an exciting and thrilling experience. So when your done doing the usual fun stuff and want to do a roleplay.. what do you roleplay..? A kidnapping, it's about the only legit reason to be put in ropes other than you telling someone "hogtie me!". So you go play the scene out and after your all bound up and horny what comes next....? You can guess. This is where I see the "rape" fantasy originating from. Now there are other origins. I tend to be on Seond Life a lot meeting kinky people a lot. Some prefer it to just be rough, forceful, animalistic in nature. Others want that verbal humilation to be belittled and scolded the entire time; some prefer to include racism into their humilation and so on. The list goes on. I am still pretty shocked about others engaging in consual play that involves racism and financial domination. Yet I did the research and there's people who repeatedly defend both fetishes. Now this is scratching the surface. I've seen some wierd and other disturbing fetishes that I'll avoid mentioning since I don't want to be shocking or edgy. I just want you to know that this form sexual play is normal and there are other fetishes that you or I might find questionable or even disturbing but to them it's normal. Rape fantasy is just another one in the mix. It's more so a "hard fuck fantasy" than anything else. It's the guys wanting that rough, wild fuck with a girl who will fight with him. They like the wrestling, the struggling, the anger and the high energy experience it all brings. Though guys aren't the only ones who enjoy such things either. It also works the other way around you know Hahaha..! You know.. I had accidently left or enabled the option for females to rape men in Defeat on. You should've seen the look on my face when I saw Lydia and Sophia (a funny follower mod) giving it to bandits. I was looking over my shoulder hoping no one was around, I felt so guilty seeing that play out. Then I never bother to fix it for about a week. It was all fun and games until I got mounted while they were busy themselves. Fantasies are complicated things. They can be simple and understandable sometimes - but other times, you have them against your better judgement or reasoning. Kidnap and Rape fantasies fall into the latter to me. There is a part of you that knows that those fantasies only work in your head or in roleplay - they don't work as real life situations. In my opinion (which may be completely wrong), it's the safe sense of control you'll still have. In your head or even in a roleplay, no matter what you fantasise about, you are still in control and can pull back. It's a situation of your crafting and choosing. In a RL situation, you would have none of that, and would most likely be scared shitless. I'm like Lady Horus in that I like it rougher - however, I've found that many of the rougher animations/scenarios I want, triggered as often as I want, are in the more "aggressive" mods. Many times, I end up roleplaying my character differently. For example, my Succubus has the rape mods - an all-powerful succubus could easily smite these mortals, but she'd much rather play fake damsel-in-distress, let them have their 'fun' and then flip the switch on them with righteous fury. To my character, it's just fulfilling a fantasy because, whether the other party realises it or not, she is the one in control. I also tend to try and skim through some of the non-con parts, like in the Devious Devices questline, so I could get the parts where my char could willingly be a sub or dom. Fantasies are so fickle...
JonathanLS Posted August 18, 2014 Author Posted August 18, 2014 You have used a rape mod, your character is a victim, you have full awareness what will happen, but you still are going through it. So your character is raped or not? Except I don't use them because I find it highly disturbing. Like I said, I think of actual rape even if it's in a fantasy context... Just doesn't sit well with me, and that's just me. Not trying to convince anyone else otherwise. I have a hard time understanding what about actual rape is attractive. If all it is, is an attraction to rough sex then I don't see why that can't be portrayed differently I guess. But I've never installed sex mods so, I really don't know exactly how it plays out. I have no real desire to find out, though. If the whole "get raped if you're defeated" thing is what it comes with out of the box and there's no way to disable it I'd really rather not go there lol. If you're into that more power to you. Doesn't mean I have to like it myself, though. Hmm... take it a step back. Did you know that there are kidnap fantasies? The fantasy of some stranger breaking into your place and tying you up? That's the jist of the fantasy. Sometimes it goes further where sex is involved or enslavement or whatever else the person is into. This is where you get into the realm of BDSM and the literal hundreds of kinks that people explore. Some more disturbing than others. You can do a google search for disturbing kinks if your daring but be warn... it'll make your skin crawl. From what I've seen a rape fantasy usually comes after a kidnap fantasy, not always but its the usual I've seen. The attraction I have towards it stems from bondage. When your tied up, you can't do anything to protect yourself. When your with someone who you trust and knows what they are doing it's an exciting and thrilling experience. So when your done doing the usual fun stuff and want to do a roleplay.. what do you roleplay..? A kidnapping, it's about the only legit reason to be put in ropes other than you telling someone "hogtie me!". So you go play the scene out and after your all bound up and horny what comes next....? You can guess. This is where I see the "rape" fantasy originating from. Now there are other origins. I tend to be on Seond Life a lot meeting kinky people a lot. Some prefer it to just be rough, forceful, animalistic in nature. Others want that verbal humilation to be belittled and scolded the entire time; some prefer to include racism into their humilation and so on. The list goes on. I am still pretty shocked about others engaging in consual play that involves racism and financial domination. Yet I did the research and there's people who repeatedly defend both fetishes. Now this is scratching the surface. I've seen some wierd and other disturbing fetishes that I'll avoid mentioning since I don't want to be shocking or edgy. I just want you to know that this form sexual play is normal and there are other fetishes that you or I might find questionable or even disturbing but to them it's normal. Rape fantasy is just another one in the mix. It's more so a "hard fuck fantasy" than anything else. It's the guys wanting that rough, wild fuck with a girl who will fight with him. They like the wrestling, the struggling, the anger and the high energy experience it all brings. Though guys aren't the only ones who enjoy such things either. It also works the other way around you know Hahaha..! You know.. I had accidently left or enabled the option for females to rape men in Defeat on. You should've seen the look on my face when I saw Lydia and Sophia (a funny follower mod) giving it to bandits. I was looking over my shoulder hoping no one was around, I felt so guilty seeing that play out. Then I never bother to fix it for about a week. It was all fun and games until I got mounted while they were busy themselves. Fantasies are complicated things. They can be simple and understandable sometimes - but other times, you have them against your better judgement or reasoning. Kidnap and Rape fantasies fall into the latter to me. There is a part of you that knows that those fantasies only work in your head or in roleplay - they don't work as real life situations. In my opinion (which may be completely wrong), it's the safe sense of control you'll still have. In your head or even in a roleplay, no matter what you fantasise about, you are still in control and can pull back. It's a situation of your crafting and choosing. In a RL situation, you would have none of that, and would most likely be scared shitless. I'm like Lady Horus in that I like it rougher - however, I've found that many of the rougher animations/scenarios I want, triggered as often as I want, are in the more "aggressive" mods. Many times, I end up roleplaying my character differently. For example, my Succubus has the rape mods - an all-powerful succubus could easily smite these mortals, but she'd much rather play fake damsel-in-distress, let them have their 'fun' and then flip the switch on them with righteous fury. To my character, it's just fulfilling a fantasy because, whether the other party realises it or not, she is the one in control. I also tend to try and skim through some of the non-con parts, like in the Devious Devices questline, so I could get the parts where my char could willingly be a sub or dom. Fantasies are so fickle... Someone said 'Financial domination'. What is that?
DoctaSax Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Someone said 'Financial domination'. What is that? Getting screwed by your bank.
Jormungandr Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Someone said 'Financial domination'. What is that? Getting screwed by your bank. Financial Domination is most likely the most expensive and in my oppinion also extremely risky fetish. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_financial_domination I'm rather experienced with BDSM and D/S relationships and i value consent above everything else on that matter. Financial domination however is a bit outside of the control spectrum both parties have, this can result in serious abuse and worse even financial ruin. Needless to say, it's not one of my preferred tendencies at all, no matter what role i take in the relationship. As for rape scenarios, there are quite a few ways to play these out in full consent, however it'll never get near the real thing, if it does, you're having the wrong partner, because there will be things involved you most likely won't gave your consent for and i don't think there's an explanation needed for how bad that is. Personally i only engage in BDSM play in a loving relationship. I've seen my fair share of wrongs outside of those, as i'm a switch with dominant tendency (means i prefer both, being submissive and dominant but more dominant overall) i even had the uh.. 'pleasure' to experience one of such wrongs myself once. There's a basic rule to BDSM, everything has to happen with consent of both sides, or it shouldn't happen at all.
windpl Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Someone said 'Financial domination'. What is that? Getting screwed by your bank. Financial Domination is most likely the most expensive and in my oppinion also extremely risky fetish. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_financial_domination I'm rather experienced with BDSM and D/S relationships and i value consent above everything else on that matter. Financial domination however is a bit outside of the control spectrum both parties have, this can result in serious abuse and worse even financial ruin. Needless to say, it's not one of my preferred tendencies at all, no matter what role i take in the relationship. As for rape scenarios, there are quite a few ways to play these out in full consent, however it'll never get near the real thing, if it does, you're having the wrong partner, because there will be things involved you most likely won't gave your consent for and i don't think there's an explanation needed for how bad that is. Personally i only engage in BDSM play in a loving relationship. I've seen my fair share of wrongs outside of those, as i'm a switch with dominant tendency (means i prefer both, being submissive and dominant but more dominant overall) i even had the uh.. 'pleasure' to experience one of such wrongs myself once. There's a basic rule to BDSM, everything has to happen with consent of both sides, or it shouldn't happen at all. Now I will even believe that someone has fetish of sticking spoon in to his ass. Financial domination, that fucked up shit.
blacklord9 Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 I don't understand why feminists want to take our porn away. Not that they will succeed, I'm just curios as to the reasoning behind it all since I know many ladies that sometimes indulge themselves and I see nothing wrong with it. Maybe you can make a case against rape since that can't be consentual but better people vent their perversions in games and media than outside in the street.
carnifex Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Now I will even believe that someone has fetish of sticking spoon in to his ass. Financial domination, that fucked up shit. My dad is a doctor, he once assisted in getting a silver teaspoon out of a woman's ass
JonathanLS Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 A teaspoon? Why? It isn't even penis-shaped!
SolomonGrumpy Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 I can't understand why anyone would not like this place. I came here from the Nexus just this morning, and I already like this place more than that hole. The community's friendly and welcoming.
jxm Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 I can't understand why anyone would not like this place. I came here from the Nexus just this morning, and I already like this place more than that hole. The community's friendly and welcoming. Well, this never really surprised me...it's kinda weird that, for example you are into beastiality-mods, and then you make fun or get all high and might on someone using a Futa-Mod or admits he is into transgender things... In a way, when all people have their "pants down" like on this site (pants down, you get it? Ha!), that makes everyone kinda equal and standing on the same level. And once you realized this thought, you behave a bit different in concern to others...I still have to read a post on this site openly condeming some kind of fetish (except for pedo-stuff and the like, of course) Anyway, yeah, LL is pretty funny place to be. Wehn I made an account I never really thought I hang around so long, the intention was more to simply have the opportunity to download - hence may rather crappy username And as far as feminism and all that goes. I think each persons sexual fantasies should belong to him/herself. When I look at how popular those "Shades of Grey"-stories are, I doubt the more "extreme" fantasies are limited to evil men alone. You can watch porn,read stories, and with LL and the mods you can play your fantasies without ever having another living person to bother with that? Isn't that actually a good thing? Also, in contrast to real porn, in these mods we don' even have modelsbeing "abused" by the evil industry... For me, I admit: I like my heroines sometimes in rape, slavery or beastiality-situations. Does that mean I want to experience these situations one day for real? Hell no...I am fully aware of the psychological impact a rape has (on male or female), and I neither want to suffer it or inflict it, ever. And real beastiality is kinda gross, isn't it? No thank you, it's simply a fantasy, nothing more... P.S. I played MMORPGs for a while, and the way people treated each others there sometimes .. made me speechless and I was sometimes actually burdened with some real psychological issues of some persons ...horrible. Or when you look at how people behave in games like War Z? Humiliating others for fun? It's not only sex that makes people mad and behave like idiots ...
SolomonGrumpy Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Yeah, I get what you mean about the thing with enjoying those situations while they're fake. I RP a lot, I'm into some kinky stuff with all that. But, I've got to common sense and taste to not want to actually partake in any of that. It seems a lot of people don't understand that there is a difference with that, and assume that just because you're into something when it's merely an imagined situation, it means you're gonna go out and do that yourself. Err, no, folks, that's not how it works.
MrNoobMan Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 This thread sums up why I stopped hanging around on the nexus and moved to this place, since none will stop us from bringing our personal fantasies to life.
EronicHunter Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 I'm enjoying this discussion, let me state my opinion if I may I'm a girl, and I have absolutely no problems with loverslab, the comunity and the mods.I think that there are 2 sides on our lifes, the reality, and the virtuality. We live in reality where our actions may influence the lives of other, but we also pass some time on our own worlds and fantasies, the virtuality where nothing is... negative, in our point of view. Now when we install mods, play sex games, fantasize and etc, we are not messing with anybody else, we are not harming anyone, we are just living our virtuality, letting some steam off, everyone has dreams and fantasies... It is just normal. It is only problematic when people confuses virtuality with reality, that is the problem. I love running over random people on the street in GTA, but I would never feel satisfied doing that in real life, and I belive that that is the biggest reason why people is unable to accept some fantasies from other people, they feel affraid or can't understand the diffrence betwen both sides, so they mix them, if you like raping girls in a game, you love raping girls in reality, it is not the same thing.Me, for example (can't belive I'm saying this), have a fantasy for having some one rape me , (I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A POINT, DON'T JUDGE ME PLEASE) but willingly, I don't want to have any random street guy just grab me and violate me bare back, NO, gosh NO! I wanted to role play about it with the person I love and the person that I am willing to give my body too, its not true rape, I know, but is a fantasy I have. That's why I have raping mods in skyrim, It's a fantasie, not reality, and while it is "controlled" and "kept on virtuallity" it is not a problem. Of course that if several people is willing to turn the same fantasy into reality, as long as no one who does not want to be envolved is kept out of it, then, well, go for it, and keep it to yourselves .To finish it, those ladies criticising loverslab do not like it and our collection of mods, but that is THEIR opinion, and I do not care about their opinion to be truly, mainly because they do not debate it, they just wash their opinions in our face like they were right and we were wrong. I don't remember running to their homes and screaming in their ear: "HAVING SEX IN SKYRIM IS THE BEST AND YOU MUST HAVE IT TOO!", and better than that, mods are FREE. FANMADE. OPTIONAL. CONTENT. It is not something you HAVE TO HAVE, Don't like it? Don't download it! Problem solved, let the rest of the people enjoy it.Besides, there are lots of sexualized males in here too, not only females, the reason why there isn't more is because there are less girls than boys, but...Sorry for long text and gramatical errors ;p
Schmendrick Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 This is by far the best internet community I've ever been. Never ever been disgusted with anyone here, never read a rude or judging reply about anything... and we all know that here in LL "anything" means A FUCKING LOT. It bothers me a lot that this so called femminist people just posts their rage in a wiki, where nobody can reply on it. As abada said they don't debate ther opinion, they just impose it in a coward, violent way. I too love you guys and girls from LL, and I look forward to keep learing, modding and sharing with all of you for the times to come... even when angry radical feminists will throw nukes at us and we'll have to evolve into flying human-cockraches.
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