Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Crazy Natalie]

so I just updated.  Dresses don't show up, its just see through?  Any help anwhere?

 

[L0ller]

so I just updated.  Dresses don't show up, its just see through?  Any help anwhere?

I had same problem, it got fixed after I run bodyslide.

[Gameplayer]

 

so I just updated.  Dresses don't show up, its just see through?  Any help anwhere?

I had same problem, it got fixed after I run bodyslide.

 

 

The dresses don't have a Group Assignment other than either Unified UNP or the CBBE one.

 

It was a real pain looking through a ton of stuff over like 1,000 outfits to find them in the Unified UNP group but that's what I ended up having to do, and no I didn't build the bodyslide for the dresses.

 

[Gameplayer]

how do you enslave an npc (bandit) i set the surrender chance to 100% but when the npc goes down i cant do anything?

 

Well for starters you don't just kill them.

 

It may not be immediately obvious but not every NPC seems to surrender its kinda like how Kill Moves works it doesn't always happen but maybe one in a whole group.

 

So what usually happens is this,

I run up stabbidy Stab Stab and sometimes the NPC if still alive will throw their hands up and surrender.

 

If you knock them down or cause a script from the Vanilla game like the flee stuff or what not you should allow them to get back on their feet and not hit them....Give em a moment for the DCL script to take effect, in those situations if your really going to town on NPC you might not ever see it happen cause you will dispatch them.

Thing is usually they surrender.

 

@ Kimy,

 

I am having a problem where I cannot get dialogue to open with NPC's that surrender ><

This occurred shortly after having ordered an NPC to follow me around but not knowing what to do with the NPC I just sort of kept on my adventure with a bound bandit in tow just for kicks and after getting a nights rest the NPC was just gone.

 

It occurs to me that the NPC was an OBIS Bandit and that mod will self delete its bandits....That might not be good in regards to your system...

[joisback]

Hi Kimy,

 

is there a way to disable the dialogue possibility to end enslavement from Leah and Leon (I don't want to be a obient girl anymore (End enslavement)) ?

 

If you decide to be enslaved there should not be an easy way to end it. eg.: if you use Simple Slavery and you were sold to Leah or Leon, they doesn`t want to leave you.

 

It's a suggestion to put it in the MCM to enable/disable the dialogue line to end enslavement.

 

Is ther now a possibility to disable it via console command?

 

Finally many thanks for your amazing mod!!!

[r5e4w3q2]

To add to the grey face bug, and just had this brown forehead one.  Very odd.

[Czlowieku]

nasty! thanks! 

[swords and sandals]

To add to the grey face bug, and just had this brown forehead one.  Very odd.

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That used to happen - and presumably still does - when exporting npc face gen files from the creation kit (with ctrl+f4) when you had high quality face and/or makeup textures installed. With vanilla textures only it didn't happen.

 

It's been a while since I made any npcs or npc overhauls of my own, but I needed to uninstall or disable any skin texture mods when making the npcs to avoid that problem.

 

Not sure if that helps. Just an observation.

[Gameplayer]

Looks like we are missing an Eyebrow mesh.

 

Bound Girl 02

 

Something with the Eyebrow mesh is not working, not sure why since it looks like it should be a vanilla mesh, looking in TesVedit anyway, maybe it needs to be configured in CK or something.

[Etral]

Edit: Nevermind... found the problem. Apparently it's the Crash Fix Plugin that... ironically makes it crash. Now I just gotta figure out which option is responsible. Because given the amount of CTD this little thing has already fixed for me, I'm certainly not going to play without it :[

 

Edit2: Well, that was easy. "UseOSAllocators=1" is the bad guy here. Which really is too bad... again, any ideas how or why that would happen? Perhaps even how to fix it? Other than setting it to 0 of course.

 

Hey guys, I'm having a problem that I can't seem to figure out.

 

A week or so ago I started modding again and now it's time for the more... interesting mods. Like this one. My last modding attempt also included this one, but that was probably a year or so ago. And back then everything worked fine, expect some oddities here and there.

 

Now however, I can't get the arousal based body scaling to work. And I can't seem to figure out why. I always get a CTD when the scaling kicks in. However, some tests have resulted in some more information:

 

Apparently this doesn't happen when the character is wearing armor that hasn't been modified by bodyslide (perhaps modified armor would work as well, but I'm currently running a fresh profile to rule out incompatibility and hence haven't tried that yet). Furthermore, I just got it to scale down again without getting a CTD. But when I set the arousal to 100 again, back to desktop I went. This time the character was naked though.

 

Now, assuming this is fixed by just wearing clothes all the time it's technically still playable and everything but... you know, with mods like these chances are you aren't always wearing clothes. So I'd fix this problem.

 

Also, it doesn't appear to be the scaling itself. I downloaded the Egg Factory mod and used its scaling to see whether or not that works. And it did, flawlessly. So something about this very mod is causing it.

 

I'm currently running a very bare bones load order, just to diagnose this issue, because I'd really like to play with this feature enabled.

The load order contains little more than DD, CBBE/Skeleton/Etc, Sexlab, Zaz, AltStart and the other things you need. The only somewhat unusual thing I'm running is the Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics ENB. Though I doubt that's the issue here, no?

 

Any ideas what could cause these crashes? I'm out of ideas. It's certainly not the body or the skeleton as other mods requiring those work just fine. But I really don't know what else it could be.

[Gameplayer]

Edit: Nevermind... found the problem. Apparently it's the Crash Fix Plugin that... ironically makes it crash. Now I just gotta figure out which option is responsible. Because given the amount of CTD this little thing has already fixed for me, I'm certainly not going to play without it :[

 

Edit2: Well, that was easy. "UseOSAllocators=1" is the bad guy here. Which really is too bad... again, any ideas how or why that would happen? Perhaps even how to fix it? Other than setting it to 0 of course.

 

Hey guys, I'm having a problem that I can't seem to figure out.

 

A week or so ago I started modding again and now it's time for the more... interesting mods. Like this one. My last modding attempt also included this one, but that was probably a year or so ago. And back then everything worked fine, expect some oddities here and there.

 

Now however, I can't get the arousal based body scaling to work. And I can't seem to figure out why. I always get a CTD when the scaling kicks in. However, some tests have resulted in some more information:

 

Apparently this doesn't happen when the character is wearing armor that hasn't been modified by bodyslide (perhaps modified armor would work as well, but I'm currently running a fresh profile to rule out incompatibility and hence haven't tried that yet). Furthermore, I just got it to scale down again without getting a CTD. But when I set the arousal to 100 again, back to desktop I went. This time the character was naked though.

 

Now, assuming this is fixed by just wearing clothes all the time it's technically still playable and everything but... you know, with mods like these chances are you aren't always wearing clothes. So I'd fix this problem.

 

Also, it doesn't appear to be the scaling itself. I downloaded the Egg Factory mod and used its scaling to see whether or not that works. And it did, flawlessly. So something about this very mod is causing it.

 

I'm currently running a very bare bones load order, just to diagnose this issue, because I'd really like to play with this feature enabled.

The load order contains little more than DD, CBBE/Skeleton/Etc, Sexlab, Zaz, AltStart and the other things you need. The only somewhat unusual thing I'm running is the Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics ENB. Though I doubt that's the issue here, no?

 

Any ideas what could cause these crashes? I'm out of ideas. It's certainly not the body or the skeleton as other mods requiring those work just fine. But I really don't know what else it could be.

 

Crash Fixes mod,

 

Is not friendly with Racemenu Morphs when using OSallocators feature, you can check its mod page to read that its a known issue and get more information about it but I doubt that there will be much headway on that anytime soon.

 

This matters since DCL uses Racemenu Morphs to apply changes to the player female body such as breast, butt, hips, and cum inflation.

 

A nice added feature is that since it uses Racemenu Morphs to apply the changes well 2 results are, first the morphs tend to look better especially if players use more normal morphs for baseline and 2nd you can still use another mod that uses bone scaling without also having to have another 3rd party mod to make sure that 2 or more mods applying bone scaling will behave properly end result is no more need for a 3rd party bone scaling manager when also using a pregnancy type mod.

 

As an example,

 

I made all the UUNP devious sliders except for the ones just recently released, also I made Remodeled for UUNP, and Book of UUNP....Now I have all that stuff with Racemenu Morphs enabled....

 

So everything in my game will dynamically scale to appropriately fit my characters body...plus I also can use say Soulgem Oven III alongside that works out great.

[Etral]

You know... checking out the mods page is something I should've probably figured out myself. The tip posted there, namely setting "LogMessageToFile" to 1 fixed the issue. Well, at least I didn't crash this time. Not sure if that broke something else, of course.

[Gameplayer]

@ Kimy,

 

I think the Evilgirlsfaction may need a few more faction groups.

 

Example, just captured an evil evil Bandit.

So she gets placed into your EvilgirlsFaction, then I start heading towards town and on the way another mod called HydraGirls has Thalmore Slavers, that upon spotting my subdued bandit promptly attack her.

 

I am certain that it may also effect Immersive Creatures Mod.

 

There may be a need to incorporate more factions into the EvilGirlSubdued Faction such as,

 

Thalmore,

Imperials,

Stormcloaks,

and perhaps other roadside random encounter groups I haven't thought of yet....Luckily though this sort of change should make it so mod added groups don't slay players "servants" in tow to the market.

[Lokikun]

 

Edit: Nevermind... found the problem. Apparently it's the Crash Fix Plugin that... ironically makes it crash. Now I just gotta figure out which option is responsible. Because given the amount of CTD this little thing has already fixed for me, I'm certainly not going to play without it :[

 

Edit2: Well, that was easy. "UseOSAllocators=1" is the bad guy here. Which really is too bad... again, any ideas how or why that would happen? Perhaps even how to fix it? Other than setting it to 0 of course.

 

Hey guys, I'm having a problem that I can't seem to figure out.

 

A week or so ago I started modding again and now it's time for the more... interesting mods. Like this one. My last modding attempt also included this one, but that was probably a year or so ago. And back then everything worked fine, expect some oddities here and there.

 

Now however, I can't get the arousal based body scaling to work. And I can't seem to figure out why. I always get a CTD when the scaling kicks in. However, some tests have resulted in some more information:

 

Apparently this doesn't happen when the character is wearing armor that hasn't been modified by bodyslide (perhaps modified armor would work as well, but I'm currently running a fresh profile to rule out incompatibility and hence haven't tried that yet). Furthermore, I just got it to scale down again without getting a CTD. But when I set the arousal to 100 again, back to desktop I went. This time the character was naked though.

 

Now, assuming this is fixed by just wearing clothes all the time it's technically still playable and everything but... you know, with mods like these chances are you aren't always wearing clothes. So I'd fix this problem.

 

Also, it doesn't appear to be the scaling itself. I downloaded the Egg Factory mod and used its scaling to see whether or not that works. And it did, flawlessly. So something about this very mod is causing it.

 

I'm currently running a very bare bones load order, just to diagnose this issue, because I'd really like to play with this feature enabled.

The load order contains little more than DD, CBBE/Skeleton/Etc, Sexlab, Zaz, AltStart and the other things you need. The only somewhat unusual thing I'm running is the Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics ENB. Though I doubt that's the issue here, no?

 

Any ideas what could cause these crashes? I'm out of ideas. It's certainly not the body or the skeleton as other mods requiring those work just fine. But I really don't know what else it could be.

 

Crash Fixes mod,

 

Is not friendly with Racemenu Morphs when using OSallocators feature, you can check its mod page to read that its a known issue and get more information about it but I doubt that there will be much headway on that anytime soon.

 

This matters since DCL uses Racemenu Morphs to apply changes to the player female body such as breast, butt, hips, and cum inflation.

 

A nice added feature is that since it uses Racemenu Morphs to apply the changes well 2 results are, first the morphs tend to look better especially if players use more normal morphs for baseline and 2nd you can still use another mod that uses bone scaling without also having to have another 3rd party mod to make sure that 2 or more mods applying bone scaling will behave properly end result is no more need for a 3rd party bone scaling manager when also using a pregnancy type mod.

 

As an example,

 

I made all the UUNP devious sliders except for the ones just recently released, also I made Remodeled for UUNP, and Book of UUNP....Now I have all that stuff with Racemenu Morphs enabled....

 

So everything in my game will dynamically scale to appropriately fit my characters body...plus I also can use say Soulgem Oven III alongside that works out great.

 

 

I was having the racemenu slider crash and went searching for a solution in the forums.

 

Looks like if you wanto to use UseOSAllocators=1 and you have crashes,  you need to make AlignHeapAllocate=1

According to what I read this can increase load times and break some ENB's.

 

In my case this solved the problem of crashes when using racemnu sliders on UUNP morphs, maybe you can try this option.

[Gameplayer]

Issue

 

Using "Nipple Piercing" from Devious Devices Integration,

 

Will end Deviously Cursed Loots, Body Scaling Feature.

Removing the Nipple Piercing will restart said feature.

 

It was not Captured Dreams after all....I had purchased and put on Piercings before leaving the shop.

Tested this on a previous save using Additem Menu to get the piercings easily.

 

If this is intended well it just does not make since seeing as the Piercing model made with Bodyslide with UUNP has working morphs afterall....So confused.

 

IF this "feature" is intended I strongly suggest undoing it to avoid frustrating end users and getting more false reports.  End users will likely think there is something wrong with the mod(s) or their own load order or scripting.

 

Turns out that this is 100% reproducible and 100% returns to normal when removing nipple piercings, if its intended I think its dumb idea and generally disappointing and as mentioned will cause a whole lot of ppl to think its an error rather than "feature."

[Nazzzgul666]

 

Any suggestion to what we should set that number to? Never knew we had to do that. Thanks for letting us know!

It depends on how good your PC is. As I understand it, the number says how many NPCs can have DD animations (like arms in armbinder) at the same time. So if you have, for example, no more than 5 NPCs with DD gear at any given time in viewing range, you'd set the number to 5.

 

If you use the "Set recommended DD values" in the DCL MCM menu, it sets the number to 10. So that might be a good start.

 

I usually just crank it up all the way to 20. Doesn't have any noticeable impact on my system, but older machines might get problems with that.

 

Beside your hardware it depends on how many script mods you're running...in my experience it's hard to say at which point things will become messy until it happens. So, i'd suggest set it to a reasonable value (whatever you think you'll need) and play around, but avoid doing important questlines from mods or vanilla. Afaik the civil war for example is quite script heavy by it's own. To avoid problems, make sure the number of NPCs isn't too high before you do quests you don't want to break/do again.

[Guest Flobalob]

Just a thought about the bound girls, now that it works for me.

If you decide to release them ,would it be possible for them to take what you're wearing as well as locking you in their restraints?

Just to make it a little more devious.

[Nergui]

Just a thought about the bound girls, now that it works for me.

If you decide to release them ,would it be possible for them to take what you're wearing as well as locking you in their restraints?

Just to make it a little more devious.

 

Something like that has already been added.   

[Trash Metal Barbie]

I im aware im kind of reposting a smilar question to one above but would i be correct in making the assumption people that have the new devices with meshes in this version have used the CBBE bodyslide variant? 

 

If not and you have used the UUNP sliders are all of your devices visible? been playing around in various ways , bodyslide bulds the nifs, can open them and view in nifskope, tried shuffling the about logical directory locations manually whilst leaving the bodyslide ones in place so as to not change it too much but cant for the life of me get a lot of the new Heretik stuff to show , piercings clamps and the chain harness, a few bits load, pears etc , also the hobble dresses dont. Made kimy aware so she is most likely checking it out but wondered if anyone had a temp fix or its me getting it wrong

[Imatterial]

To add to the grey face bug, and just had this brown forehead one.  Very odd.

enb 2016_11_19 04_39_49_43.jpg

 

I thought that was warpaint...

[wantmads]

 

To add to the grey face bug, and just had this brown forehead one. Very odd.

enb 2016_11_19 04_39_49_43.jpg

I thought that was warpaint...

Me too.

[11mazak]

Hello Kimy, thanks for the new version and the new items, they are awesome fun! I especially love the new hobble dresses and the Maiden's Shield.

aaaand.. Suggestions time! During my last playthrough, I've been writing down ideas that you could implement into DCL. Some situations I got into were really devious, for example yesterday my character got locked into a hobble dress and a couple of other restraints right before I wanted to climb the seven thousand steps to High Hrothgar. I understand that some of my ideas could be hard (or impossible) or tedious to implement so please make them as simple/compex as you want, it's only inspirational. I tried to sort by complexity and put them in spoilers because there's a lot, here goes:

 

- Make it clearer what device needs which key.

Either add it into the item description, or into the MCM info of the item. For example, if I get locked into a Slave Chastity Belt, do I need 5 of regular Chastity keys to unlock it?

 

- Make Collars and Leg/Arm cuffs more devious

This is first just to get it out of the way, because from what I understand, it is not something DCL should be doing but Devious Devices itself, but maybe you could still make something happen. The idea behind cuffs is that they are equipped over other pieces of clothing (correct me if I'm wrong) so it would make sense if they prevented changing armor or unequipping restraints they cover. (Collars would affect helmets, hoods and lockable suits). We already have similar functionality with mittens, so this shouldn't be too hard to add.

 

- Expand Maiden's Shield / add a Self-Bondage belt/set

Make the lock duration configurable in MCM, both a set duration and random, and we set the min/max length. You could make a complete set of similar items - or, new feature, the belt would somehow prevent any (only generic?) devious devices being removed while it's locked on. Yeah - at this point, it would probably make more sense to make a new belt, since the Maiden's is supposed to be used for protection, not self bondage.

 

- Devious Fast Travel

Since the logic behind fast travel is that the character still walks to the location and we simply don't see it, I suppose the character could still get locked into something devious on her way there. It would be fun to have a DCL event happen after fast traveling to change our plans.

 

- Devious "Wait"

What does our character do when we tell her to wait for 24 hours? I doubt she just stands there, doing nothing. Same as above.

 

- Event when changing equipment

Character might decide it's a better idea to play with some devious items than it is to get ready for a battle. This is similar to the Self Bondage feature, but would have a % chance to happen every time we change a piece of equipment, instead of happening when the character gets too aroused. Might still have an arousal treshold to trigger.

 

- Devious Potions

Is it possible for an event to happen every time a player drinks a potion? The idea is that every potion (maybe with the exception of player-created potions, not sure if doable) could be laced and function as a self bondage gas trap. The player would get a warning and after some time, the event would happen. Also, off-topic, is the arousal treshold for self bondage configurable? I couldn't find it. Does a gas trap need to pass a treshold check?

 

- DCL Death Alternative

I know DCL's rape functionality already does something similar, but I personally don't like seeing my character getting raped by random bandits. It could be very simple, even working the same way rape does, but without rape itself: player is essential, when Health reaches zero the screen fades to black, player wakes up at the beginning of an interior area/inn/in wilderness/wherever, tightly bound of course. Maybe they would lock you into a chastity belt with a special key, similar to Jack the Belter, and the belt would prevent magicka/stamina regen (with a plug, so it makes sense?), making getting the key a priority. Or they lock you in a number of regular restraints, but take your keys/gold/items. Maybe they give your items to their much stronger boss in their stronghold, making getting your items back very interesting (fighting bandits while tightly bound has to be interesting). Maybe they kidnap your follower, or Sasha! (No idea if this is possible since I'm sure everyone is using one of the follower overhaul mods == incompatibility.)

 

- Non-rape Sleep Attacks

All of the above could be applied to sleep attacks as well. Jack the Belter would be moved here, since he doesn't rape the character.

 

- Followers/Sasha want us before we go to sleep (or any other time)

Maybe you ignored their needs for a little too long and they decide to take you when you least expect it. Similar to the existing rape sleep attack but different, this would be more like a follower tries really hard to seduce us before we go to sleep. Might include equipping of devious devices if we don't submit, provided there is an option not to. And if we agree, maybe they want to get kinky and put some restraints on us, and then they forget where they put the key. oops.

 

- Make Sasha more engaged in other DCL features

Player gets something locked on them? Maybe Sasha wants to play along and locks the same thing on her. Self bondage gas traps should affect Sasha as well, right? Also you could make her a part of the Bound Queen quest, where she would be a second option to the existing NPC who refuses to give us the key (again, I don't like forced sex, this is where the idea came from). She would take the key and refuse to give it back, unless she gets to dominate the player for a long time. Owned by a random desperate guy or owned by Sasha? Hmmm...

 

- More things to do with Sasha

A lot of quests/events/everything come to my mind that could be implemented, and I'm sure you have your own plans with Sasha as well. If you want me to write my ideas down, no problem. Just a few examples: finding Sasha's sisters, a special DCL event for Sasha with a quest to help her or unlock her from her restraints, or (as mentioned before) an implementation into DCL Death Alternative, where she gets kidnapped and you have to get her back.

 

- Bondage Adventure could have more outcomes

Maybe some bandits are giving the NPC trouble and it wants them gone, in exchange for some keys or a few restraints removed. If they are a merchant/blacksmith, they may want some exotic supplies (would provide an alternative to blacksmiths unlocking high-security restraints for gold, maybe they want some flawless gems or a piece of daedric/dragon armor instead). Maybe they know where you could find some keys. Like a Jarl's pocket. Good luck not getting caught stealing. Also, when they decide to lock a restraint on us, is there a chance they use a slut collar or a slave chastity belt? If not, why not?

 

- Devious Fairy

New event that happens when we are already wearing a devious device, or a few. Would only affect certain devices (only generic?) so it would not break quests. A magic spell cast upon the player that would prevent unlocking of any (again, only generic?) device, unless we are in (or reach) a specific location, or talk to a specific NPC there. Like a devious fairy or goddess,.. that gets bored, casts the devious spell and then goes to wait for us at High Hrothgar. Also, we could be given a list of multiple possible locations/NPCs and would have to trial-and-error our way to freedom. Also2, for every incorrect guess, player gets more restraints equipped on them. Also3, maybe the fairy would only allow unlocking of one (or some) restraints at a time, or instead lock more restraints on the character, or do whatever else, and then move to a different location. This continues until the player isn't wearing any devices affected by this spell - then the spell would end. Of course, fast travel could be disabled during this event, making horses awesome.. Unless there's an inflatable plug locked under the chastity belt, of course. There are a couple of similarities between this and the Bound Queen or the Cursed Collar, but this would focus on generic restraints to make them more interesting, not simply "get/buy a key and you're fine".

 

[Gameplayer]

I im aware im kind of reposting a smilar question to one above but would i be correct in making the assumption people that have the new devices with meshes in this version have used the CBBE bodyslide variant? 

 

If not and you have used the UUNP sliders are all of your devices visible? been playing around in various ways , bodyslide bulds the nifs, can open them and view in nifskope, tried shuffling the about logical directory locations manually whilst leaving the bodyslide ones in place so as to not change it too much but cant for the life of me get a lot of the new Heretik stuff to show , piercings clamps and the chain harness, a few bits load, pears etc , also the hobble dresses dont. Made kimy aware so she is most likely checking it out but wondered if anyone had a temp fix or its me getting it wrong

 

Hello, I believe that the Hobble Dresses were not included in the Groups in the release and have yet to actually check the Hotfix, there have been a few hotfixes.

 

The Hobble Dresses not having a Group means that players unaccustomed to finding them manually will have problems.  If it still doesn't have a group you can simply scroll through the whole unfiltered list and build the missing Hobble Dresses.

 

Though that may be unnecessary at this time.

 

[nosdregamon]

Is it possible to have uncursed loot spawned? You know, something you can wear, just because you're kinky. Making the additionally cursed ones a bigger suprise...

[davisev5225]

I im aware im kind of reposting a smilar question to one above but would i be correct in making the assumption people that have the new devices with meshes in this version have used the CBBE bodyslide variant? 

 

If not and you have used the UUNP sliders are all of your devices visible? been playing around in various ways , bodyslide bulds the nifs, can open them and view in nifskope, tried shuffling the about logical directory locations manually whilst leaving the bodyslide ones in place so as to not change it too much but cant for the life of me get a lot of the new Heretik stuff to show , piercings clamps and the chain harness, a few bits load, pears etc , also the hobble dresses dont. Made kimy aware so she is most likely checking it out but wondered if anyone had a temp fix or its me getting it wrong

 

Rather than using the groups, I build using the individual outfit filter and typing "dda" and "ddx" individually, then batch building.  I can take screenshots if you need.

Is it possible to have uncursed loot spawned? You know, something you can wear, just because you're kinky. Making the additionally cursed ones a bigger suprise...

 

There's an MCM option for restraints to drop.  Set it greater than zero.