gregathit Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Not missed much? You're kidding. The breath is quite decisive for our understanding of the actual situation Shepard is in' date=' viz laying heavily wounded on the ground in the ruins of London having last abstruse visions of the end of his mission. If he dies there or not and for what is up to you! [/quote'] Nope. Let me rephrase what I said: You don't miss Jack Shit. That is how I feel. I didn't want "up to me" as that is not what bioware promised. They promised closure and NOT speculation. If you are happy...GREAT. I think it blows chunks so we will have to agree to disagree....Strongly!
Surenas Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 So be it! The frustration that might arise out of advertisement indoctrination when one demands earlier promises in post-Christmas fashion I leave to others. I am satisfied with a fairly injured hero on the battleground that makes the ascension, the misty passage to death facing the personal Judgment Day.
thesapien Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Yep, he does seem frustrated. On the one hand, he's angry that one of the endings is only achievable after some hot multiplayer action. In the other hand, jerking it, he says there's nothing to miss from not getting that ending. "Sour grapes" is the old saying during such times. Edit/PS Out of curiosity for what one might find if searching for the meaning of "sour grapes", I came across this gem on wiki: Today, the term is often used to refer to someone being a "sore loser". As comedian George Carlin noted, however, it only means "rationalization of failure to attain a desired end. ... It doesn't deal with jealousy or sore losing."
gregathit Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Both of you seriously crack me up. If I liked then ending, both of you would immediately switch sides just to be contrary. No sweat off my balls either way. Thesapien your digs don't get under my skin so feel free to be as snarky as you please. As to "hot" multiplayer - you must not play much multiplayer because ME's version is limited and quite lame. Hell tribes is better. Funny that you seem to think I am the one who is "off" when bioware is the one who lied saying you don't have to play multi-player to get all of the different colors of the ending for single player. Guess little niggles like that don't mean anything to you.
thesapien Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 You got me there. The last time I played multiplayer was No One Lives Forever. Anyone remember that game; sexy, funny, female operative, Cate Archer, set in the 60's. Oh, the memories.
thesapien Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 As to them trying to make it unmoddable? What? This game isn't any different than ME1 or ME2 with regards to modding. They (bioware) haven't EVER made modding easy with any ME game. Doesn't stop anyone from going ahead and modding it anyway Doesn't that kind of answer your question as to what I meant? BioWare never intended for these games to be modded. We both know how textures are locked so texmod is required but still doesn't work on systems like mine with the wrong graphics card and how limited we are with tweaking the ini. It's been this way throughout the series, yes. I'm just saying it's either not on their minds at all or it is them intentionally trying to block any modding of their ME games. With multiplayer, they have an incentive for the latter. So, it just seems like a lot to ask of them to say, hey, some of us are gonna mod your game anyway and we'd like to also play multiplayer without being blocked for cheating if you could do that, thanks.
gregathit Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 You got me there. The last time I played multiplayer was No One Lives Forever. Anyone remember that game; sexy' date=' funny, female operative, Cate Archer, set in the 60's. Oh, the memories. [img']http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/93/No_one_lives_forever_video_game_PC_cover_scan.jpg/256px-No_one_lives_forever_video_game_PC_cover_scan.jpg[/img] That actually was a fantastic game to be quite honest! I also enjoyed the sequel as well. It really is too bad that 3 is not likely to ever happen.
gregathit Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 As to them trying to make it unmoddable? What? This game isn't any different than ME1 or ME2 with regards to modding. They (bioware) haven't EVER made modding easy with any ME game. Doesn't stop anyone from going ahead and modding it anyway Doesn't that kind of answer your question as to what I meant? BioWare never intended for these games to be modded. We both know how textures are locked so texmod is required but still doesn't work on systems like mine with the wrong graphics card and how limited we are with tweaking the ini. It's been this way throughout the series' date=' yes. I'm just saying it's either not on their minds at all or it is them intentionally trying to block any modding of their ME games. With multiplayer, they have an incentive for the latter. So, it just seems like a lot to ask of them to say, hey, some of us are gonna mod your game anyway and we'd like to also play multiplayer without being blocked for cheating if you could do that, thanks. [/quote'] Except for the fact that they are aware of texmod and the coalesced editor. Hell textmod and the editor are both hosted right on BSN. If they were opposed to them, then they could have stopped things right there. The fact that they have looked the other way for 5 years, while people tweaked things and then were too lazy to separate multi-player from single player? Stop and think about this if you will, they claim that multi-player was made by a separate company....right??? So why didn't they just leave it separate? Why did they waste time and money putting the two together Something just doesn't quite add up to me on this.
GSBmodders Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 You got me there. The last time I played multiplayer was No One Lives Forever. I played me3 multiplayer long enough to discover that its lame, if anyone feels that the bioware's AI are a challenge they should never consider playing any competitive pvp mmo I dont mean to entirely bash biowares efforts on mp. I have certainly seen far worse first attempts and imagine that there is a market for the guys who really wanted to pwn at CS or UT but failed miserably. Hell they probably suck ass at dota too
Sephariel Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 You got me there. The last time I played multiplayer was No One Lives Forever. Anyone remember that game; sexy' date=' funny, female operative, Cate Archer, set in the 60's. Oh, the memories. [/quote'] Oh man, I remember playing multiplayer once in that game a long long time ago. The multiplayer wasn't very active, there was only a handful of players. I played on a snow map, and I was getting utterly destroyed. So I got on a snowmobile and promptly one-shotted everybody by ramming into them at full speed. I racked a ton of kills that way. But I disconnected shortly after when the players found this a viable strategy and all started using snowmobiles. I should play this game again sometime.
thesapien Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Oh man' date=' I remember playing multiplayer once in that game a long long time ago. The multiplayer wasn't very active, there was only a handful of players. I played on a snow map, and I was getting utterly destroyed. So I got on a snowmobile and promptly one-shotted everybody by ramming into them at full speed. I racked a ton of kills that way. But I disconnected shortly after when the players found this a viable strategy and all started using snowmobiles. I should play this game again sometime. [/quote'] I wonder if it would even run in my Windows7? Yeah, playing that in multiplayer, always seemed like there were a couple of pwners. Looking back, I wonder if they were cheating somehow. I always did so well against someone I knew, then get my ego shot when playing randomly. I prolly just got pwned.
Surenas Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Build revision 74 of Gibbed's Mass Effect 3 Editor is up since yesterday. Changes • Minor improvements to int / float plot setting. • Loading a save no longer causes some int plot variables to get set to the value they were again (this would non-harmfully cause some plot variables to get unnecessarily moved around).
remois Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 I got around to finish it, at last for the sake of completion... Well that was crap... I really don't mind shepard's death at each ending. But the ending choice I got (never got around to choose an other one?) Merge with the machine and jump around like cute little rabit in a nature infested world, destroy all mass relay and send back all civilization hundreds years without mean of contact? Where are the fairies and the elves? Well ranting is done, feels better... By the way did you read that? http://gamerant.com/bioware-mass-effect-3-ending-curt-139503/
gregathit Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 By the way did you read that? http://gamerant.com/bioware-mass-effect-3-ending-curt-139503/ Bioware has come out saying that his account was hacked and that he did not make those statements.
Surenas Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Playing ME:1 again, keeping the end of ME:3 in mind. We'll see what I've missed... [spoiler= Noa Shepard]
gregathit Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 And the verdict is in: Bioware is officially giving the finger to the upset fans: An official press release went out today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the "Extended Cut" will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it's at no cost to you - the fan. Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn't: What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC? For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard's journey. Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future? No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned. What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC? BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3. When will the Extended Cut DLC be available? Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point. Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC? Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard's story. So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding. Be good to each other and Summer is coming... Taken from the OP of this thread: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/11028261/1 Now you have heard it. Why in the F'ing Hell they didn't have the balls to say this weeks ago is beyond me. For some this will be pleasing, for others like me this is the final insult that will cause me to forever turn away from anything bioware or ea. It was a nice ride but it is over
GSBmodders Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 I agree it's sad to see over a decades worth of excellence come to such a screeching halt but Bioware is no longer the company that it once was and they never will be that company again. imo the end of mass effect 3 is in many ways a mercy killing, I have mourned the loss of Bioware and now I am moving on.
thesapien Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 Actually, I'm not happy to hear that. I don't want closure. I don't want more of an epilogue. I don't feel the need to know what happened with everyone I met. All I want is one more choice dialogue with the Catalyst. I want to say, "I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite spot on the Citadel." I also want to know what happened to Neo after the Matrix trilogy. Oh, wait. His LI died. Nevermind.
thesapien Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 Playing ME:1 again' date=' keeping the end of ME:3 in mind. We'll see what I've missed... [spoiler= Noa Shepard'] I've been giving it a go, too. My challenge has been the combat mechanics. The first time I played it, I didn't like combat in ME. Thought it was kind of broken. It feels even worse now after being spoiled by ME2 and now ME3. So I rush through combat just to get back to dialogue and story. Not sure I can keep this up. So tempted by combat in ME3. Curious though to try to ME2 again.
Surenas Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 Gotta make my own plot analysis, something I've ignored at the first onset of a trilogy that deals with the classical rise and fall of a hero. The final fall, often drawn by the artists as a sacrifice or betrayal, is indigestive food for normal people, no doubt about it, it makes the identification with the figure difficult if not impossible. Sigurd/Siegfried of the Nibelung Saga/Norse Edda is one example for a heroic man who went forth to learn fear only to die at the worst possible moment, King Leonidas of Sparta in the Battle of the Thermopylae 300 BC and the following march of the Persians under Xerxes I. to Athen is just another. And so it is with Shepard as well. Though different from passive consumed literature here the audience itself plays the hero and for a brief moment it has to share his fate - his rise and fall. That is almost an insult cos dying once and for all, esp. when oneself isn't yet ready for it, is the last surprise a player would ever expect from a game over... and ever agree to without resistance. Giving the artists names, taking the end for shit, is the logical consequence of feeling fooled, of having not understoood that only a dead hero is a good hero, the food of future legends. The way in which the artist introduces the necessary death of the hero, in ME it is a final vision, doesn't make it easier for the player who actually doesn't intend to die out of season. Though shit happens and it happens all the time. If no such shit would happen, well, people wouldn't talk about the story for long and soon there'd be none left who remember it... Whatever I'll find out in my 2nd ME run, and there's always one last little detail... My name is Hannah, and I refuse to let anything get in the way of my mission! Submit now! ...I'll feel good, star people. Till then!
GSBmodders Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 And the verdict is in: Bioware is officially giving the finger to the upset fans: An official press release went out today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the "Extended Cut" will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it's at no cost to you - the fan. Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn't: What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC? For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3' date=' the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard's journey. Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future? No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned. I agree it's sad to see over a decades worth of excellence come to such a screeching halt but Bioware is no longer the company that it once was and they never will be that company again. imo the end of mass effect 3 is in many ways a mercy killing, I have mourned the loss of Bioware and now I am moving on. It is far to soon to say but we may be left eating our words. I just read through this post n the bsn http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-Story-and-Campaign-Discussion-Spoilers-Allowed/All-BioWare-comments-about-the-ending-some-of-this-is-very-important-to-read-11092464-1.html and then went through the pain of verifying Biowares twitters posts and dev comments that are quoted in this
Surenas Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 You still don't get it, do you? You're not in charge of this mission, BioWare is.
gregathit Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 Bioware seems to have no clue what they are doing. The ending and their confusion over folks mad about it is proof of it. Then they don't say anything for several weeks and then come out and make an announcement (the one I posted) and then contradict it with twitter posts. Seems to me to be grasping at straws unsure of what to do. As to them being in charge? They have a funny way of showing it. LOL. If they were really in charge and were as proud of their endings as they claim why are they bothering to do a dlc providing closure and clarification? Time will tell what will come.
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