Private Needs Discreet

[MartinLL]

Another problem I'd like to note is that even though I disabled the NPC management (while the debug messages were turned on), the debug messages including bladder and bowels state keep popping up even after an hour of playing.

 

I know that I can disable the messages, but it seems that the scripts keep running even though NPC management is turned of. That would stress papyrus without any need and make it more difficult to disable the mod, I guess.

 

/add:

 

The undressing problem exists for both the PC and any NPC. It only unequips the sword, anything else is kept on. And that's true completely independent from the settings I use.

[Zeratha]

Any chance you would ever mod Private needs for Fallout 3 or New Vegas? would love this mod in that timeline

 

[Dnell]

this mod does not work great with unp sos the penis won't come up when i use the male animations like 2h animation it use to work but now it stop any ideas

[nightwing100]

Here is version 1.8.3.

 

It has been a while since previous release but there isn't many new features. I played with male and female player character with male and female followers to make sure there weren't problems on my setup. Undressing should work properly for all and NPC bladder should not get +200% after changing cells. If you had trouble with the previous release this should probably fix them. In any case an older v1.8.1 is also available if there's something wrong with this.

 

Someone reported CTDs from loading a savegame with this mod. If you have enabled the NPC features and you've got a lot of active actors in your cell, then depending on your other active mods, you may be stressing the Skyrim engine which may lead to CTDs. Just loading this mod the first time in your game should not crash your game!

 

PapyrusUtil is not an essential requirement, you'll be able to play without it, and it is used only to keep NPCs not moving while they are doing their business.

 

Someone was keen on having the tinkle stream without the animation. This is possible (it is how Seeing Yellow handles it) but so far this mod attaches the tinkle in the FNIS rules to the animation itself so in this version that is not possible.

 

If you want to make derivatives of this mod then by all means, but I urge you to release the sources with your changes and give others permission to mod the mod you've modded.

 

 

 

Thanks for reply ,i was mistaken somehow i believe it seem like Private Needs 3.1 was the one still casuing trouble after uninstall it ,this mod now works fine now and cause no CTD issuse for me after i clean the script from my save ,thanks again.

[NNS10]

Version 1.9.1 fixes a number issues, incl. leveled females turning out to be males.

 

[...]

 

If you have Bathing in Skyrim, a cleaning spell from the mod is used and if you get messages

about "not enough water", and get cleanlyness effects when you bathe, they come that mod.

 

 

PND doesn't seem to be triggering anything from "Bathing in Skyrim."

 

SETUP:

I am installing both for the first time. I use MO. I ran FNIS. I have PND loaded after Bathing in Skyrim (but before the Bathing in Skyrim patch for Perseids Inns and Taverns).

Note: I deleted the skeletons, SOS meshes, and SexLab scripts from your mod, since I have them installed individually from their own mods. I did notice the ActorUtil.pex file from your mod is different from the one with SL 1.59c so I tested with your version but it didn't make any difference.

 

ISSUE:

I used PND's bathing function (both via spell and hotkey), but (1) it does not have a clean effect (blood from EBT remains) and (2) there is no check for standing in water.

 

Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? Was the ActorUtil script with PND any different from what's in SL 1.59c?

[NNS10]

Bump.

 

Anyone else also not seeing the features from "Bathing in Skyrim"?

[didimelo100]

Can anyone tell me if this mod have a "needs system", like the original Private Needs? I mean, after some hours the character needs to pee before get negative effects or in this mod you can pee and poo without any need?

I can't test myself because i'm using the original one, so maybe can conflict with each other and i might switch to this mod if this have a need system like the original one.

[Sacred Sakura]

Can anyone tell me if this mod have a "needs system", like the original Private Needs? I mean, after some hours the character needs to pee before get negative effects or in this mod you can pee and poo without any need?

I can't test myself because i'm using the original one, so maybe can conflict with each other and i might switch to this mod if this have a need system like the original one.

 

It does not, you just pee whenever you want, but never have to. There are also no sideeffects like in the original

[Warstomp32]

I still got the "invisible pee"..

other features are working fine but I still can't see any pee..

anyhow to fix this?

[bruce142]

I would also like to see an optional "needs system" or integration in the actual "Private Needs" mod, preferably the first option because the 3.0 alpha builds of Private Needs are quiet buggy (I know that they are alphas and bugs are to be expected but bathing doesn't work and you can't turn off hygiene either so you get dirtier over time and thus you lose speechcraft skill like crazy and can't sell anything anymore at a decent price).

 

I tried to incorporate the hygiene aspect into Private Needs Discreet by adding the following code in the PND_MainScript  :

; Private Needs
GlobalVariable Property MaxHygiene Auto
GlobalVariable Property PNHygienePoints Auto
GlobalVariable property PNBowelContent Auto
GlobalVariable property PNBladderContent Auto
Spell Property hygieneSpell00 Auto
Spell Property hygieneSpell01 Auto
Spell Property hygieneSpell02 Auto
Spell Property hygieneSpell03 Auto
Spell Property hygieneSpell04 Auto


    ;Private Needs - Remove dirt levels
        PNhygienepoints.SetValue(MaxHygiene.GetValue())
        PlayerRef.RemoveSpell(hygieneSpell00)
        PlayerRef.RemoveSpell(hygieneSpell01)
        PlayerRef.RemoveSpell(hygieneSpell02)
        PlayerRef.RemoveSpell(hygieneSpell03)
        PlayerRef.RemoveSpell(hygieneSpell04)
        Playerref.AddSpell(hygieneSpell00, false)

It does work and the player's character gets cleaned (from unkempt to Immaculate clean) but after 1 minute or so ingame the player's character gets unimaginable filthy/very dirty, which is strange because she was unkempt before bathing. Did I miss anything?

 

Also I would like to see integration with the SerialStrip mod (as it's quite easy to implement according to the mod author and does work).

 

I also noticed you are trying to integrate a search outhouse code, the isToilet keyword is not part of the IthliaOuthouse.esp mod (which I made, using Ithlia's outhouse resources) but is part of the PrivateNeedsNew.esp. I already wrote some working "search and find outhouse" code (I do not know if you can write it in a more optimized way using other code but this is the best I could manage to write) which you may use freely in your mod (part of my PrivateNeeds Follower Fix 3, getowningquest() is FollowerUrinateQuest from the Private Needs mod) :

 

Scriptname FillToiletAliasScript extends ReferenceAlias  


Event OnInit()
cell currentCell = Game.GetPlayer().GetParentCell()
int i = currentCell.getNumRefs(40)
while (i > 0)
i -= 1
objectreference ClosestToilet = currentCell.getNthRef(i, 40)
RegisterForLOS(Game.GetPlayer(), ClosestToilet)
Debug.Notification("FillToiletAlias script is registered for LOS")
endWhile
Endevent


Event OnGainLOS(Actor akViewer, ObjectReference akTarget)
PlayerRef = Game.GetPlayer()
cell currentCell = Game.GetPlayer().GetParentCell()
int i = currentCell.getNumRefs(40)
if getowningquest().GetStage() == 10
while (i > 0)
i -= 1


objectreference ClosestToilet = currentCell.getNthRef(i, 40)
akViewer = PlayerRef
akTarget = ClosestToilet


if ClosestToilet.HasKeyWord(isToilet)
Alias_Toilet.ForceRefTo(ClosestToilet)
Debug.Notification("We have found a toilet")
getowningquest().SetObjectiveCompleted(10)
getowningquest().SetStage(15)
else
Debug.Notification("Keep looking")
endif
endWhile
endif
endEvent


Actor Property PlayerRef Auto
ReferenceAlias Property Alias_Toilet Auto
Keyword Property isToilet Auto

 

[Mookeylama]

 

 

I also noticed you are trying to integrate a search outhouse code, the isToilet keyword is not part of the IthliaOuthouse.esp mod (which I made, using Ithlia's outhouse resources) but is part of the PrivateNeedsNew.esp. I already wrote some working "search and find outhouse" code (I do not know if you can write it in a more optimized way using other code but this is the best I could manage to write) which you may use freely in your mod (part of my PrivateNeeds Follower Fix 3, getowningquest() is FollowerUrinateQuest from the Private Needs mod) :

 

 

 

may i ask what this IthliaOuthouse mod is, and what it does, and Where to get it? does it place some outhouses around? i used one awhile back. think it was Outhouse of Skyrim, and it added waaay too many for my taste. but right now i have original PN installed (and by requirement the ZAZ stuff) just so i can have outhouses for PND. so i wish there were some other options

 

[Mookeylama]

i'm still using version 181 since the animations work fine for me, and i don't much mind that all my followers all go at the same time, usually after each cell change. i just set them to lawful so it doesn't happen much.

 

BUT they do get the female penis quite often. could i just remove the penis nifs? i don't have the main SOS mod so the nif must come from PND. is there a way to get the ladies from having wangs without removing it completely from males?

[chopoland]

Great private needs mod, without dependencies and easy configurable, but to be perfect needs...

- Randomize the time in character with needs penalitations.

- Separate in mcm male and female animations

 

Great work.

[memlapse]

I just switched to this mod and the lack of undressing seems to be the only issue I'm having.  We haven't heard from the mod author in over a month.  I hope there updates coming.  It's a great mod.

[5hur1k3n]

Hmm. No matter what I try, PC won't undress at all. Not even during bathing. Another thing, PC takes a bath even without having to get into water. Is it like this by design? I'm using it with EatinigSleepingDrinking -KuNeruNomu. Is that causing the problem?

[bruce142]

I hope the undress bug can be solved by integrating SerialStrip into this mod (according to the mod author this is very easy to do). Also I would like to announce that I've fixed the bathing bug of Private Needs, so the integration of Private Needs Discreet in the Private Needs mod isn't required anymore.

[Evangelina]

Hi guys!, so yeah, i'm having the problem with the PC not undressing at all, even when setting the Outfit slots to nude... anyone find a temporal fix for this?.

 

Thanks in advance n_n. And Thank you Bruce142, you rock!

[cbvbadlarry]

can you add an option to disable the bathing? I prefer to use bathing in skyrim for cleanliness.

[Kadsuki]

So, I have the problem of characters not undressing, as everyone does, so I wanted to try version 1.8.1

 

I have installed it following all the same requirements and steps as 1.9.1, but it doesn't activate in game. Also, when I use FNIS after activating the mod, I get this message:

Reading PND V1.8 ...
>>Warning: AnimationList found in  "Animations\PND-KNN", but no corresponding Behavior file. Incomplete mod IGNORED.<<

 

I use Nexus Mod Manager.

 

Anyone knows why it doesn't work, and/or have the install steps of 1.8.1 if they are different from 1.9.1?

Edited May 21, 2015 by Kadsuki

[Sneaksmile]

This mod need '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''? I do not want that mod.

 

From Nexus I only need "Animations Package for Private Needs Discreet" or also the main file of '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''?  

 

Please respond I really want to try this mod! 

[yolobomber]

This mod need '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''? I do not want that mod.

 

From Nexus I only need "Animations Package for Private Needs Discreet" or also the main file of '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''?  

 

Please respond I really want to try this mod! 

Only the animation pack in the optional section.

U do not need the main mod.

[Sneaksmile]

 

This mod need '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''? I do not want that mod.

 

From Nexus I only need "Animations Package for Private Needs Discreet" or also the main file of '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''?  

 

Please respond I really want to try this mod! 

Only the animation pack in the optional section.

U do not need the main mod.

 

Thanks a lot!  

 

There is no problem with alive pee mod? can go the 2 at the same time? 

 

Thanks again!

[yolobomber]

 

 

This mod need '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''? I do not want that mod.

 

From Nexus I only need "Animations Package for Private Needs Discreet" or also the main file of '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''?  

 

Please respond I really want to try this mod! 

Only the animation pack in the optional section.

U do not need the main mod.

 

Thanks a lot!  

 

There is no problem with alive pee mod? can go the 2 at the same time? 

 

Thanks again!

 

I guess so.

[Sneaksmile]

 

 

 

This mod need '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''? I do not want that mod.

 

From Nexus I only need "Animations Package for Private Needs Discreet" or also the main file of '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''?  

 

Please respond I really want to try this mod! 

Only the animation pack in the optional section.

U do not need the main mod.

 

Thanks a lot!  

 

There is no problem with alive pee mod? can go the 2 at the same time? 

 

Thanks again!

 

I guess so.

 

Okay, thanks! last question ... is supposed that PapyrusUtil overwrite to SexLab in some things when I install it with NMM? will this mod to modify my current skeleton? because I do not want that! 

 

Thanks. 

[yolobomber]

 

 

 

 

This mod need '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''? I do not want that mod.

 

From Nexus I only need "Animations Package for Private Needs Discreet" or also the main file of '' Eating Sleeping Drinking Mod ''?  

 

Please respond I really want to try this mod! 

Only the animation pack in the optional section.

U do not need the main mod.

 

Thanks a lot!  

 

There is no problem with alive pee mod? can go the 2 at the same time? 

 

Thanks again!

 

I guess so.

 

Okay, thanks! last question ... is supposed that PapyrusUtil overwrite to SexLab in some things when I install it with NMM? will this mod to modify my current skeleton? because I do not want that! 

 

Thanks. 

 

The papyrusuntl in the downlaod section (probably version 28).

sexlab 1.59 has the same version or lower.

To be sure use the seperate papyrusuntl and let it overwrite sexlab.

It's both the same papyrusuntl so overwrite or not doesnt matter at all.

 

about the skeleton, there is a skeleton included in this mod for peaple who don't have a skeleton. If you have a skeleton installed like xmpse newest version, let your skeletion overwrite this mod.