Mod X is private but why the anger/crying?

Mebrilia · February 9, 2014

Well for sure don't upset me if someone don't want to share his mod... Personally if i am a modder i gladly share my work because i feel i contribute on the fun of me and other people...

I don't understand why honestly people make mod just to show them but keep private and laugh at the people complaining because they can't have it... If i make a mod to myself i simply keep it for myself...Why share the mod in the pic just to be an ass and basically say "Hey hello i am a modder and i don't give a fuck of people i like post my work just because i laught at people whining because is a private mod!"

The best part to being a modder on my opinion is seen someone download your mod come back and say to you: You did an amazing job you are awesome!...

This because the modder contribute to someone fan.. And this is the beauty of modding...When you release something you and other likes!

So in the end.. you post a screen of one of your mod just to feel awesome and laugh at the people that want try it out?... Good... then for me you are not a person worth of attention...

No hate... no rage...no nothing

Its just simple

Cynical Misanthrope · February 9, 2014

Although, just from browsing various 3D galleries around the net, I recognize nearly half the stuff that I've downloaded that is shared with the public that probably shouldn't have been. So many times I think to myself when checking out a gallery, "I know I've seen that outfit before. Oh, wait. I have it! So that's where that came from."

Aye! Last week I saw 3-4 outfits in 3D rendered pictures over at DA and thought to myself, "wow, I know that outfit, seen it a few times in Skyrim screens"

Vedli · February 9, 2014

A modder has every right to post whatever image he chose, just like regular user.

Or, do you suggest that modders can only post image of things he share, but leechers can post whatever image they want? How does that make sense?

Maybe modder don't want to share because the community is full of entitled leechers who always demand everything from modders, but give nothing in return.

Modders work for free so be grateful that they share some of their work with you. To me, 1 modder > 1000 leechers, so I have no problem with modders post picture of private mods.

Grateful? should I get down and lick there feet as well? Seriously though this comment slightly rubs me up the wrong way and I think it's that your referring to mod users as leechers and that one modder is better than a 1000 users. Thats the kind of attitude that turns a modder into an egotistical asshole. I personally know how to do some creative things as well (including basic mods) that others have no idea how to do so. That doesn't make me better then them. Don't get me wrong if someone creates something great I'll tell them so and vice versa.

Getting back to the point I think it's all a matter of context (like EVERYTHING in life)

If it's someone who hasn't shared much, if anything, with the community it can seem like there just showing off doing the whole "look what I have that you don't" thing. That bothers some people leading to comments that basically come down to "If you not going to participate in the community then why don't you just fuck off and stop wasting our time." Others no doubt don't like seeing something cool then having there hopes of getting there own copy dashed with no good reason given (even something simple like saying it's too just to much time and work to get it into a releasable state). This could cause people to get upset and lash out.

Of course if it's someone who shares tons of stuff already like say, Shocky, (http://www.loverslab.com/user/150878-shocky/) who's already shared a boat load of content and then some no one is really going to give a shit about getting the skin texture he uses for his sexy blue elf model been private. There's no doubt a legitimate reason he wouldn't share that (at least in my mind).

Spyder Arachnid · February 9, 2014

I love how everyone instantly assume that just cause a modder shows a picture of their private mod, that they are instantly this arrogant jerk who is rubbing it in your face that you can't have it and they are laughing at you.........

Seriously? Not every person who makes a private mod is some vindictive evil madman that loves torturing you with pictures.

Look at all these modders out there that release mods. There is modders who release plenty of mods to the public, but have a few private ones as well. Does this mean they are hateful evil people because they don't release one mod out of the dozens they have already released? No it doesn't. You didn't do the work for that mod, you didn't put in the time to make it, so why do you think you have the power to tell them what to do with it?

As well, not all these private mods are able to be redistributed. Some are ported/converted without permission, others are copyright, and some aren't even finished and are buggy. Some are even designed just for taking screenshots only and not to actually be used.

And then look at how the community treats modders who do release stuff. Making constant demands and rude remarks just cause they don't like the way something is in the mod. Would you want to release a mod to a bunch of leechers who demand you bend to their will and do what they want you to do? It's disheartening when you put in a ton of work for something and get nothing but demands to change your work of art to suit their needs.

Think about it next time before you start calling modders evil hateful people for not releasing their mods. They go through a lot of work to meet the already high demands of the community, and you should be grateful you get anything at all. If they want to showcase a mod they made, private or not, they should be allowed to without everyone thinking they are hateful beings and laughing at you cause it is private. I don't see any of these leechers making their own mods, so until you do, you have no place to talk.

Mebrilia · February 9, 2014

I love how everyone instantly assume that just cause a modder shows a picture of their private mod, that they are instantly this arrogant jerk who is rubbing it in your face that you can't have it and they are laughing at you.........

Seriously? Not every person who makes a private mod is some vindictive evil madman that loves torturing you with pictures.

Look at all these modders out there that release mods. There is modders who release plenty of mods to the public, but have a few private ones as well. Does this mean they are hateful evil people because they don't release one mod out of the dozens they have already released? No it doesn't. You didn't do the work for that mod, you didn't put in the time to make it, so why do you think you have the power to tell them what to do with it?

As well, not all these private mods are able to be redistributed. Some are ported/converted without permission, others are copyright, and some aren't even finished and are buggy. Some are even designed just for taking screenshots only and not to actually be used.

And then look at how the community treats modders who do release stuff. Making constant demands and rude remarks just cause they don't like the way something is in the mod. Would you want to release a mod to a bunch of leechers who demand you bend to their will and do what they want you to do? It's disheartening when you put in a ton of work for something and get nothing but demands to change your work of art to suit their needs.

Think about it next time before you start calling modders evil hateful people for not releasing their mods. They go through a lot of work to meet the already high demands of the community, and you should be grateful you get anything at all. If they want to showcase a mod they made, private or not, they should be allowed to without everyone thinking they are hateful beings and laughing at you cause it is private. I don't see any of these leechers making their own mods, so until you do, you have no place to talk.

You have right but you also need to admit that a lot of modder that do that think usually are just like that...to show "haha look what i have and you can't have..." also this happen and more frequently you believe... If i do something to me i keep it with me... I don't see the point to make an awesome skin texture for personal use and then glue it in a screenshot unless it is in the right context of course that is different....

But around the net i seen also many modder acting like knee jerk posting their work just to be begged and troll the whiners... That's happen too... And is not rare trust me..

About the community questions well there is costructive criticism and just idiots... About the demands that's normal... Because is normal if someone don't have a clue in modding is looking for help or demand a certain kind of mod to see maybe if one is interested...

I didin't called modders evil hateful and i am sorry if you feel offended for something i didin't did....

I am just aware that there is a large group of modder that usually troll people posting screen of their amazing mod and then after making joke at them....

Not everyone has time to learn to mod some have their rl problems other have a really busy or hard life... some even don't have skill.... And i indeed have place to talk even if i am not a modder...I just stated an opinion referred (to the ones that just post their private material to troll users)) and trust me i seen a lot of them....Not so much here by the way..

Jexsam · February 9, 2014

Depends on the context. If a modder is just posting images of something, then it's whatever. Example, my signature is a recolor of the Telvanni Mage robes that I've never released anywhere because I no longer have it and because it was done specifically to suit one character. But I don't post it to flaunt it, I post it because it's what he'd wear, and I don't go around telling everyone "Hey here's this thing I did that no one can have, like it?"

But if a modder is posting WIP shots, test shots, things of that nature, talking about how they're testing things, and explicitly stating that "but you can't have it", they're dicks that deserve to be ridiculed and demonized. It's a rude and selfish way to go about things and is detrimental to the concept of a modding community. Without community, a modding scene can't thrive. It can limp on slowly and never really die, but it will always be held back by selfishness.

It's amazing to me the Asian modding communities can even function. If people pulled that shit here, LL would be deserted within two months, it membership scattered to dozens of friend-group sites dedicated to pulling together whatever scraps of mods they can scrounge up.

Taskmaster · February 9, 2014

Someone can eat a candy bar right next to you, and it's cool if they don't share; as there's really no problem with that. They're not even drawing attention to themselves.

But, consider that that same person can also eat a candy bar right next to you, and not shut up about how delicious it tastes and describing all of its flavors. Is it still cool if they're not sharing now or tell you where they got it?

I think the frustration comes from the situations where it can appear that someone is just flaunting something private in someone else's "face" when they're obviously not willing to share(for whatever reason). At that point, it crosses the line of someone teasing or trying to get their rocks off that they've got something that someone else can't have.

Keep in mind, that simply posting on a forum is a call to attention toward oneself, anyway. Repeatedly showing something that's private and making that the showcase, is kind of silly, though - but it is what it is. Some might even consider it trolling.

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A small aside: There's someone in this thread, who's shared a private mod with me(they know who they are), that I've never shared with anyone else. A stand up and swell person, who was willing to share it even though I barely had any posts on the forum at the time, and really didn't have to share it at all - I would've accepted his decision either way. Said person also doesn't go around 'teasing' others.

This obviously isn't a black and white issue, and a case by case basis. There's some notorious people that tend to tease with things they know they can't share... I bet that sprung this thread(I haven't been on the forums much lately or playing Skyrim for that matter).

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I've been private messaged to share some of my own creations. A normal map I've made for my characters, I had to turn them down because it's a combination of assets I don't have permission from mod authors to distribute. I just hope that when I posted pictures those that saw it didn't consider what I did teasing or flaunting, though. It really is just perception.

OnlyHazeRemains · February 9, 2014

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I've been private messaged to share some of my own creations. A normal map I've made for my characters, I had to turn them down because it's a combination of assets I don't have permission from mod authors to distribute. I just hope that when I posted pictures those that saw it didn't consider what I did teasing or flaunting, though. It really is just perception.

That one odd dude PM's you and asks nicely about a normalmap, and you dont share it cause you dont have permissions?

Seriously?!?

I mean not putting stuff up on the nexus because "no permissions" is all fine and dandy, but this?

I've ran into this a few times myself, and it always just comes off as a lame ass excuse of people who actually have no intent of sharing but are too narcissistic to admit that to themselves. And in my humble opinion, if you're not even willing to share stuff "as is / without support" via PM, then the skyrim modding community is not the place for you.

Not sharing stuff publicly because one does not want to put up with all the shit the community tends to throw at a mod, i can relate with that.

But if someone asks you nicely for it via PM, hes most likely not gonna bug you any further.

And even if the subject in question is not your own, you can at least point them to the person who made it.

I've did that myself with the Tigersan's CBBE Muscle Map that some dude adapted to UNP in the early days of Skyrim. I asked him nicely, he gave it to me. I've pointed several people his way who saw it on screenshots, and eventually he just messaged me and said i could share it at will.

'lo and behold, the world didnt end and i never got angry PM's from Tigersan.

So yes, the stuff that people like Aegis / Elenwen are / were doing comes off as somewhat narcissistic. Though i can see the other side of the coin with what happened to the SG Hair Pack.

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@Vol2

this rant is not specifically directed at you, just the general notion of the sentence i quoted

February 9, 2014

The best part to being a modder on my opinion is seen someone download your mod come back and say to you: You did an amazing job you are awesome!...

This because the modder contribute to someone fan.. And this is the beauty of modding...When you release something you and other likes!

awesome (and very true) point of view. its about those few guys that go like "holy fuck, awesome stuff!" ... one of the best comments i ever had was stated here on LL in my "forge". a gamer that said like "wow, your stuff makes me wanna play as orc for the first time" ---> awesome. simply awesome

all those hundreds of shiny armors and ultra high res beautiful shiny steel weapons... i was mainly missing stuff for orcs when i started modding. and if you follow yourself, dont make what others would prefer to download, but you go for your passion, and it leads to persons to think like that... i call that "mission accomplished" :blush:

cornbreadtm · February 9, 2014

the rage comes not from it being private but,

the fact that they plaster it across the internet basiclly saying look what i have that u dont, there is zero reason to move the screenshot of your special items

into the public eye

that being said often times there ports/poser or content they never got permisson to convert and release (to be fair alot of people ignore that last one lately)

Exactly! It's the "Cartman Complex". You know that South Park episode where he buys an amusement park only with the intention to keep everyone out, even when he's losing money that way?

If a modder wants to keeps thing private, what's the point of showcase it en every site available out there? A bit of ill will and narcissism, I'm sure.

"Hey everybody, look at what I've done! And the best of all, you can't have it! Oh, but you are free to tell me how awesome I am. After all, I can't keep myself of showing it off. Even with that, you should totally restrain yourself of begging me for it, eh? Because that's going to make me feel bad, you know?"

Yeah, I honestly don't care if the mod is private. It's when they post it on literally every single site that allows posting of pictures of Skyrim and sit there telling people that it is private when asked, like they get off on it. They could easily post on the picture that the contained clothing is private but they don't, cause literally get off on it.

So it's not the private items that piss me off, it's the way they act about it. They don't have to be a douche. They want to be.

Redflyingmonkey · February 9, 2014

Example, my signature is a recolor of the Telvanni Mage robes that I've never released anywhere because I no longer have it and because it was done specifically to suit one character. But I don't post it to flaunt it, I post it because it's what he'd wear.

But.... but ... he's an Altmer ...

demongoat · February 9, 2014

I've seen several posts about "the mod is private" followed by rage, anger, or just general complaints. I don't get why people are so upset by it. There plenty of mods I've seen that are private but I don't feel like I am entitled to or deserve to have them. Sometimes, when you make something in a game, it's your own special piece. You like to show it off but don't really want to share. Kind of like when you buy a collectors edition of game. You show your friends but yo don't give them your copy. Maybe that's a bad example though.

What are your thoughts? I'm really curious how people feel about this.

it isn't rage really, it's annoyance and loss of patience with certain people for spamming images of shit they won't ever release just to puff up their e-go.

i mean anyone can port daz shit if they want, nighteasy has 3ds tutorials for it, you have to make the effort to learn how it works though.

no one feels entitled at all, they just get tired of wondering what the fucking point is of posting shit no one but a few people have access to. it's taunting people for no good reason, it's sociopathic behavior.

posting a shot or two of something is cool, but some people are twatish enough to post shit like they will release it and never do, that kind of shit deserves a good ass kicking not praise.

as someone said, there is a difference between eating a candybar in public verses going up to someone and eating it while talking about how awesome the candybar is and how the other person will never get a bite.

the question is, why do people think every complaint stems from "entitlement"? most of the time it's people pissed off at the moron posting images of shit they bought or downloaded off the internet.

demongoat · February 9, 2014

A modder has every right to post whatever image he chose, just like regular user.

Or, do you suggest that modders can only post image of things he share, but leechers can post whatever image they want? How does that make sense?

Maybe modder don't want to share because the community is full of entitled leechers who always demand everything from modders, but give nothing in return.

Modders work for free so be grateful that they share some of their work with you. To me, 1 modder > 1000 leechers, so I have no problem with modders post picture of private mods.

thank you for illustrating why some "modders" need a good punch in the mouth, this kind of bullshit is why communities die.

yes i'm glad people make mods, they aren't fucking ubermensch or gods, and no one is calling out for someone to rip off people on daz or poser sites because they want absurdly high poly mods.

if a person doesn't want to share because they think the community is full of "entitled leechers" then they can go fuck themselves with a bat covered in rusty barbed-wire, i don't fucking want their bullshit mods anyway.

you think the issue is only caused by "leechers"? no it's caused by anyone who thinks like your post, it's poisonous thinking to believe anything like it.

i'd suggest you rethink this because it doesn't help, it's just as entitled and arrogant as the "leechers" who think a modder should fix everything for them even when they fuck up not the modder.

i can't believe anyone really believes this, it's narcissistic, bordering on the pathological.

Mebrilia · February 9, 2014

i really should find the time to learn how to mod i have some cute simple idea in mind

JaFinmongrab · February 9, 2014

I agree with AdBot.

Mebrilia · February 9, 2014

i have a lot of respect for the modders that share their work with others....And allow people to have a lot of fun with their work...

About those kind of modder that just post spawn pic of their mods just to troll people well...

Their are pointless....And they are pointless people...

I Rage at them?

No... I just don't give them consideration and i think this is the best answer one can give at the Kneejerk attitude of someone.. Like i don't give consideration to the ones insulting others work with a complete lack of constructive criticism....

In the end the keyword in a community is share..... Why troll people posting a personal mod pic and then spawn acid comments in order to proof you are a pro because you can mod?... And beware i am not talking of the one that just post an imagine just to share it in the right context....

But a fact is true...

To me.. A modder that share his work have at least 100 times more the respect from me than a troll that spend time to mod his game and share pic just to troll people

*panthercom* · February 9, 2014

When it comes to a unique character that someone has created, I can totally understand

not wanting to share; some of us get very attached to our characters and don't like the idea

of someone else messing with them in any way, shape or form.

Player A: "This is my eternal lover"

Player B: "Please share her with me {because I want to rape, degrade and abuse her}."

Player A: "I spent days making this special dress for my character so she could be totally unique."

Player B: "Ooh pretty, gimme! - NOW!"

Maviaux · February 9, 2014

Oh man this horse has been exhumed and is being beat upon again.

I've seen good points on both sides and, unsurprisingly, some really terrible ones, but in the end it all comes down to opinions - and that's what makes these kind of communities fantastic.

On topic, however; I personally don't see anything wrong with people showing things off. In a perfect world we would have access to everything and the silly back and forth over this topic would cease and we could devote forum space to other things. Alas, as long as greed, egos and narcissism exist, no chance! We can't fault some people for being human; some people like sharing with others and other people like to hoard their amassed 'riches'.

There's more than enough mods out there to sate practically anything anyone can want and, honestly, I think people get infuriated simply over the prospect of being told "no, you can't have this" essentially. Most of the crap yanked off of website X,Y,Z is terrible anyway, and while I can't mod for anything, I'd like to think I have an eye for artistic detail.

On another spectrum of the topic; most of us can't read minds and therefore we can't possibly know the intent behind why a modder chooses to show pictures. I, personally, am quite an optimist and whenever I see something slathered in the word 'private' I'd like to think they're just gauging the public's reaction towards something experimental that may go a long way towards something they may make a public release or use in creating something public. Granted I also vomit rainbows and make cookies everyday so that's just my opinion.

Feeling insulted and enraged at these modders is just a little silly, though. If they are aiming to make something for the masses telling them to 'fuck off' isn't really feedback. It should practically be procedural by now, we've all been here long enough and most of us have some degree of common sense and understanding of respect:

> See mod.
> Ask if it's private/what is it.
> If it's private for the love of god move on.
> If not? Congrats, you have something else to clog up your load order with.

Edit: I also agree with the dude above me, make your own bloody characters. I have no idea how many times I've seen that blue-haired elven woman with the massive tumors on her chest posted up in some compromising situation by different people but stahp.

February 9, 2014

NONE OF YOU WILL EVER WIELD THOSE!

NOT BEFORE YOU MAGGOTS PRAISE MY GLORY, LICK MY FEET AND KISS MY ASS!!

(naaah, just joking :angel: i still have to figure out which one to implement in the game, right now i guess itll be sword-and-greatsword regular dagger --> just scaled up, a broadsword version with a bigger blade, and maybe that spike thingy in the middle. looks good, gotta test stuff though ingame. well, so much for the dragon-priest-dagger-modifications. time to hit the ck, and then forward to the next mod :blush: )

JaFinmongrab · February 9, 2014

NONE OF YOU WILL EVER WIELD THOSE!

NOT BEFORE YOU MAGGOTS PRAISE MY GLORY, LICK MY FEET AND KISS MY ASS!!

dpsneak.jpg

(naaah, just joking i still have to figure out which one to implement in the game, right now i guess itll be sword-and-greatsword regular dagger --> just scaled up, a broadsword version with a bigger blade, and maybe that spike thingy in the middle. looks good, gotta test stuff though ingame. well, so much for the dragon-priest-dagger-modifications. time to hit the ck, and then forward to the next mod )

My I instead lick your glory, kiss your feet and praise your ass?

dobmc · February 9, 2014

I've seen several posts about "the mod is private" followed by rage, anger, or just general complaints. I don't get why people are so upset by it. There plenty of mods I've seen that are private but I don't feel like I am entitled to or deserve to have them. Sometimes, when you make something in a game, it's your own special piece. You like to show it off but don't really want to share. Kind of like when you buy a collectors edition of game. You show your friends but yo don't give them your copy. Maybe that's a bad example though.

What are your thoughts? I'm really curious how people feel about this.

it isn't rage really, it's annoyance and loss of patience with certain people for spamming images of shit they won't ever release just to puff up their e-go.

i mean anyone can port daz shit if they want, nighteasy has 3ds tutorials for it, you have to make the effort to learn how it works though.

no one feels entitled at all, they just get tired of wondering what the fucking point is of posting shit no one but a few people have access to. it's taunting people for no good reason, it's sociopathic behavior.

posting a shot or two of something is cool, but some people are twatish enough to post shit like they will release it and never do, that kind of shit deserves a good ass kicking not praise.

as someone said, there is a difference between eating a candybar in public verses going up to someone and eating it while talking about how awesome the candybar is and how the other person will never get a bite.

the question is, why do people think every complaint stems from "entitlement"? most of the time it's people pissed off at the moron posting images of shit they bought or downloaded off the internet.

Better comment than what I made. 'Sociopathic' huh?

Most of the crap yanked off of website X,Y,Z is terrible anyway, and while I can't mod for anything, I'd like to think I have an eye for artistic detail.

Agree, its just sad that we keep on dragging this human nature even after countless years of existing on Earth. Our society is going to collapse when technological advance overrides social advance. I think it already is.

February 9, 2014

I think there's an understandable pleasure in showing off something you've worked hard to create, even more so when it's unique. When something ceases to be a one off, it's not unique anymore and that can take the shine off. I really couldn't find it in myself to begrudge anybody wanting to avoid that, after all we're talking about creating art, something that is often inherently personal.

I do get the frustration though, and I've been very grateful to other artists in the past who've relented and shared their work - they didn't have to after all. I think sometimes, given how wonderful this mod scene really is, we forget how fortunate we are to receive what amount to gifts that are freely given. Worth thinking about that before we commit a stream of vented spleen to type.

This a life lesson we've all already learned many times over I'm sure

edit: to clarify, I'm not talking about daz ports or mashups of existing work, more unique body maps and the like. If it's work that's already been done and just adapted in a positive way, that's kind of frustrating when it's not shared I guess. But again, you move on, there's a world of mods out there.

itt1968 · February 9, 2014

Doesn't bother me not one bit... if I want something bad enough, there are plenty of tutorials out here for me to read and make it myself, then, I can place my version out there for all to enjoy. Not that I care to learn how, there's way to many free mods out here to whine, moan and groan about the couple of mods that are set to private or pay or whatever... To me, this is just a game and I intend to keep it that way.

*pinky6225* · February 10, 2014

I've seen several posts about "the mod is private" followed by rage, anger, or just general complaints. I don't get why people are so upset by it. There plenty of mods I've seen that are private but I don't feel like I am entitled to or deserve to have them. Sometimes, when you make something in a game, it's your own special piece. You like to show it off but don't really want to share. Kind of like when you buy a collectors edition of game. You show your friends but yo don't give them your copy. Maybe that's a bad example though.

What are your thoughts? I'm really curious how people feel about this.

While personnally I wouldnt complain if I saw a mod that the author didn't want to release I would wonder why they would show it on a public forum if they didn't want to then make it public as it reminds me of the behaviour we all showed as children "No you can look at my new toy but no touching etc"

But i've made no mods for skyrim as of yet so I can't speak from experience, perhaps when I have i would feel differently about it.

Speaking from a hypothetical If I'd made a mod for one purpose and then someeone had taken it without permission to do something else with it then that I could understand and perhaps that's more of a reason for people keeping stuff private than not wanting to share.

Duoleb The Chosen · February 10, 2014

hm... i usually have one or two mods i dont upload yet. but this is only the case if i make a special something that i still want to tweak more. there are simply mods where you go like "fuck it, its done ... *uploads*" ... and others, that work in game, but ... you dont get that special feeling yet. for example the devastator. took me months before i had it the way i wanted it. i remade it several times from scratch, and just released it after it gots its final touch (molag bal laughing when you equip it)... this was the time i felt it was ready, nothing to be added, nothing to be changed, brutal-as-fuck-awesome-kickass-gear in orcish perfection.

when im happy with the way stuff works in game, this is the moment i release. and basically i release everything i make sooner or later. though the general decision should be the modders choice. if you see sth that you cant get, you shouldnt be a crybaby about it. after all theres no law that all you ever mod has to be shared online. so instead of becoming a bitch, simply be patient. and even if theres no release, its not like the world is ending.

lastly we also have stuff you simply are not allowed to upload. for example, there is this kickass conan weapon collection. its not my work, still i tweaked its content slightly by making some personal improvements, and thus increased content and fun for me. since the author doesnt like changes or reuploads, i respect his decision, and will never upload those tweaks, its a matter of respect, and no matter if law-proof or not, i respect other modders.

this is one of the foundations of modding i think, you share stuff, and out of respect, at least a couple of polite gestures should be allowed to be asked, call it the "code of modding" if you want. another example are the lotr-weapons. some swords are amazingly designed, but i simply hate toothpick-weapons, so i fleshed out the blades and hilts a little, for personal use only. maybe stuff like that pops up on a screenshot i make sooner or later, and if folks would ask, id explain and say no. if then the hating starts i simply go into "fuck you"-mode and point them towards my respect for modders, and the persons own lazy assness of not learning how to scale a fucking blade in blender and just making it themselves. takes less than 5 minutes once you have the hang of it.

everything that is only my own work is shared sooner or later. i wanted to upload a dozen mods at once this weekend, am clustering, i got 4 done (16 weapons right now), but i spent weeks on designing them, and my fans can surely wait a day or two (its the rest of the gear i let folks vote about, on DC and here on LL. and also some other places).

and once in a while a like on the support topic, or a nice comment, is just a matter of good behaviour from the downloaders. a "thx" never hurt anybody, you know. nowadays its sad you have to remind folks about that, its mostly like "cool, free stuff"-->downloads-->is happy and thinks "fuck you, dumbass"... or posts stupid questions without reading the description about stuff that is actually explained in the description... or goes like "nice mod, but change this, change that" (automatic fuck-you-mode from my side)... you can achieve so much cool stuff with just being nice or grateful once in a while. real modders shouldnt care about sharing. but if they decide to not share, no one should blame them.

my main reason for modding the fuck out of skyrim now is that i wanted to supply a couple of new-land-mods and other projects with more gear to pick from. in exchange, some of them make my orc-char the local blacksmith, so Ragna-Rok will suply gamers with awesome brutal stuff for all eternity .. its no "has to be" when i make deals, but its a nice gesture of respect... most of the times they were happy about the amount of stuff i offer and were so happy that they found it a cool idea

and im done with modding in a couple of weeks anyway, theres no way i can make a single mod in about a month from now on anymore, my days for skyrim are counted. another reason i release tons of stuff, is this community here. its nice, but its by far underrated. sure, maybe the porn and boob stuff scares some folks away, but the general feeling of the community here is awesome. if i blast a shitload of more content on LL, this site gets more attractions, gets more noticed, i get more views and dls (and become famous, my first video features have been done already, and one of my armors is on modtype... yay!), and most important, i piss nexus and motherfucking dork-one off like hell. its a win-win-situation for me

mod on, fellows ... and dont forget to leave nice comments or a "like" on the stuff you downloaded and enjoyed. ppl should be more polite nowadays, even if they will never meet irl.

ps: oh, ive also built a custom-e-guitar. but this thingy can break, and isnt replacable, priceless for me, not like virtual mods. if you touch my custom e-guitar, i kick you in the nutz

ragna before you go, plz finish my Diablo 2 amazon armor torso its just 2 things, its even uploaded here on LL, idk how make the rest, its 90% and ready to bodylide

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anyway i faced this bullshit about private mods and etc. even on MUGEN some creators there suffers from forum drama about their creations, one for a example started to make some conversions and even custom stages for Private people, but then only because a guy sayed that "hey look your stage for some reason has 1 or 2 scrapped codes that crashes with certain characters", he went apeshit saying that he's wrong everybody is wrong and then he decided to remove his mods from the website and asked to all modders who used his assets to take it down too, the result, everybody who had his stages and creations decided to Re-upload again and tell him to fuck off with his baby attitude, and 2 years ago i saw the same attitude with a certain Zero-Satyrfrost who went bollocks and decided to remove his creations because someone used his assets and then he told to everyone to fuck off because he's the da-vinci of modding, now he's back but this time he decided to keep his creations online and non private

i remember that some one on doom forums went batshit because someone used his private DM stage in a open DM server(i think it was on Zdaemon or Skulltag), then he was banned later and his stage was even uploaded by the guy only to piss him off.

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