Payment Processors Censoring Adult Content

[Unspairing]

I am making this topic due to wanting to know and find out other peoples and main content creators, moderators opinions on this concerning problem in our Hobby. I wonder how it might affect this site and other sites like it, I know currently they are targeting the more sloppy form of 18+ content but this site currently is hosting mods that seem to be of a similar vein as the ones that have been removed e.g. WikedWhims allows for incest and rape, Carnalitas and RimJobWorld allows for everything really, Skyrim and Fallout would be too hard to really analyse all the debased degenerate mods there are since their releases so probably something like what Itch.io did will happen too them.

[Lapsa]

Its mainly a push from Mastercard, Visa, Stripe, and Paypal. Call them (or email them) and file complaints. There is a helpful thread here: https://bsky.app/profile/voiddebris.bsky.social/post/3lupqc2p7jk2n

The ACLU also has a petition active: https://action.aclu.org/petition/mastercard-sex-work-work-end-your-unjust-policy

My opinion is that its bad, I am a game developer that uses itch.io to sell my games and make money - I like being able to afford to be alive. Push-back against this is important to not only stop and reverse it, but to keep it from going further.

[plutocene]

See also Bellular News. Steam is affected as well.
 

 

[Lapsa]

New site has been made: https://anti-censorship-campaign.carrd.co/

 

 

It contains a lot of information from the threads I linked earlier, but with more additions and more consolidated - so that its easier to follow.

Edited July 29, 2025 by Lapsa

[Plumppy]

GOG is offering 13 games for free to protest censorship

 

You only have 17 hours left to redeem them.

 

http://FreedomToBuy.Games

 

https://items.gog.com/freedomtobuy/index.html

 

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Plumppy
better screenshot

[Tlam99]

Usually me is quite restrictive  posting on threads like this.

 

My personal habit to aqurie news, info etc. overall of the world, all nations-, country news , all available sources for building up my info

to get an image to think about, lead me to the conclusion:

 

The evil is attacking the world and has good chances to win the battle.

[OldTimer91]

Moved from Nexusmods Changing policies to here

 

https://old.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1mkha72/russ_vought_is_behind_the_latest_push_threatening/

 

Quote

 

Russ Vought is directly connected to what has been happening in recent weeks — a global push for new restrictions that threaten anime, manga, and video games.

 

He is the one who operates in the shadows, the one who gave the orders to Visa and Mastercard and the one who pressured Steam and the other platforms and groups like the Grito Collective took advantage of it.

 

 

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It's a reddit post so take it for what it's worth

 

Link has multiple links to more info, videos

[LinksSword]

say what you want but this is a positive that could potentially stop these payment processors 

 

[Count Chocula]

1 hour ago, LinksSword said:

say what you want but this is a positive that could potentially stop these payment processors 

Youtube is so much more authoritative than reddit, of course. If it were backed up by a wikipedia article, there'd be no room for debate.

 

But of course just because it's on reddit or youtube or wikipedia that's not iron-clad proof it lacks authoritativeness.

[RedHeadAngel]

I think it’s time for the people to stand up and fight. Show these grimy cocksuckers that we won’t take this shit.

[Tefnacht]

One thing that is very important about this whole hullabaloo is this: It is not about “the children,” it never was. At the same time, this isn't just your run of the mill moral panic either. We have countries all over the western world cracking down on this, basically all at the same time.

 

I know this isn't about “the children” because they're doing it wrong. A decade ago I would have used Hanlon's razor but it is current year and the people in power aren't just geriatrics unable to program their VCR. We're beyond that now. These people know what they're doing.

 

Children cannot access the internet without an adults consent. If you know of an ISP that provides internet access without signing a contract and paying money, please tell me about them, I would immediately switch to their service. Otherwise, children cannot do that on their own.

 

There are parental controls on every browser, some even built into the operating systems itself. There are curated blocklists and even DNS servers specifically designed for youth. Your router has parental controls built in. You just need to fucking use them!

 

What you do NOT do is make this every individual websites problem, demanding they verify user age on their own... somehow. Under enormous threat of state violence. Building the system in a way that you have to prove your age to every website individually, over and over, is a data mining and security nightmare. Which is exactly why they're doing it this way. It isn't the government collecting all your data, it is mUh PrIVate CumPanY!!!! Now it is all just one subpoena away.

 

Of course there will be a bloom of “age verification service providers” like Yoti, Ondato and iDenfy who are all extremely suspect. You think Facebook is a data-kraken? You've seen nothing yet.

 

So how do we do this right?

 

Well, first we figuratively punch all parents who need this in the face for being shit parents.

 

Second: If you buy an ISP contract you should be able to say: “I am a lazy parent and I want the kiddy pool internet for my seamen trophy so I don't have to bother with what they do online.” Then your connection gets assigned to a specific IP range.

Yes we cannot do this with IPv4 but we can absolutely do this with IPv6. Every region gets a normal internet IP range for adults and a kiddy pool.

 

All a website has to do now it check the IP that connects to their server and either serve the real content or bible verses. Or whatever your jurisdiction considers not harmful.

The ISP knows exactly who they're dealing with because they get paid. They know. They must know. From there it is nobody's business.

 

VPN services either have to reject users from the kiddy pool or they can still change the location but have to put the user in that new locations kiddy pool.

 

Are there ways around this? Of course there are. But remember: The chant was to 'protect' the children, not 'force' them to comply. It was about Timmy searching bible verses and accidentally finding furry anal gang bang because that is just so damn easy.

 

Please, do NOT comply with AI face scan age verification. Do NOT send photos of your drivers license to strange websites. Do NOT just suck this up with yet another shrug.

[landess]

When I had to change payment processors for this site I already knew it was game on. It also showed someone is always willing to step up and engage in business lost by others. White hats and falling stocks seem to be a common thing lately.

[Grey Cloud]

4 hours ago, Tefnacht said:

One thing that is very important about this whole hullabaloo is this: It is not about “the children,” it never was.

Assertion with no supporting evidence.

 

4 hours ago, Tefnacht said:

We have countries all over the western world cracking down on this, basically all at the same time.

This thread is about the actions payment processors not government policies/laws.

 

4 hours ago, Tefnacht said:

I know this isn't about “the children” because they're doing it wrong.

Illogical statement.

 

4 hours ago, Tefnacht said:

Under enormous threat of state violence.

What state violence?

 

4 hours ago, Tefnacht said:

Building the system in a way that you have to prove your age to every website individually, over and over,

Most of these sites, e.g. Nexus or LL, already have at least your email address. Sites such as Patreon, Paypal and others require other information. Everything you buy online requires your credit card details. Standing orders to pay for your ISP, your phone, mortgage, car and who knows what else all require bank details.

But suddenly being inconvenienced in your access to porn is the end of the world.

 

Where are you getting this 'over and over' from?

[steelpanther24]

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Assertion with no supporting evidence.

As you have appointed yourself as an attorney in this manner, I will appoint myself as the judge.

 

I overrule your objection, counselor, please continue. 

 

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

This thread is about the actions payment processors not government policies/laws.

 

Bots (or Bot like behavior) do not get to establish the limits of discussion on the thread, so the thread may, by direction of non bots, expand.  Thus

 

Your objection is overruled. 

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Illogical statement.

 

You have failed to present evidence to this thread court of the existence of your logic.   Please present the court additional evidence that you have the necessary experience, training and certification to determine logic.   This court does not recognize your use of the term "Illogical".  

 

Your objection is sustained....naaa  just kidding ....overruled.

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

What state violence?

 

Well.....a stopped clock is right at least once a day (or twice a day in countries that use the 12 hour time)

Objection sustained.

 

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Most of these sites, e.g. Nexus or LL, already have at least your email address. Sites such as Patreon, Paypal and others require other information. Everything you buy online requires your credit card details. Standing orders to pay for your ISP, your phone, mortgage, car and who knows what else all require bank details.

But suddenly being inconvenienced in your access to porn is the end of the world.

 

Where are you getting this 'over and over' from?

 

Your closing statement is somewhat uninspired and lacking critical elements when considering aggregation of data.  Second, I will enter an evidentiary objection for the opposing side based on the last sentence of the first paragraph cited above.  Please provide this forum with your membership in the Order of the Coif or, at a minimum your Juris Doctor or Juris Master.

 

Spoiler

Hey, don't get upset.   You are definitely the "Actually Oscar" of LL. 

Spoiler

 

 

 

[Blehbreh]

4 hours ago, steelpanther24 said:

I overrule your objection, counselor, please continue. 

 

Don't argue with this guy or pay them any mind. All this dude ever does is argue semantics, pretentiously mind you, and get the thread locked with all the arguments he causes. The thread getting locked isn't going to do anyone who opposes censorship any favors. He shows up every time there's an argument against censorship.

[Grey Cloud]

7 hours ago, Blehbreh said:

All this dude ever does is argue semantics,  pretentiously mind you

I argue against platitudes, assertions and general bollocks. Sorry if I use polysyllabic words.

 

Semantics

 

Semantics

 

 

Semantics is a sub-discipline of Linguistics which focuses on the study of meaning. Semantics tries to understand what meaning is as an element of language and how it is constructed by language as well as interpreted, obscured and negotiated by speakers and listeners of language.

Semantics is closely linked with another sub-discipline of linguistics, Pragmatics, which is the study of meaning in context. However, unlike Pragmatics, Semantics is a highly theoretical research perspective, and looks at meaning in language in isolation, in the language itself, whereas Pragmatics is a more practical subject and is interested in meaning in language in use.

https://sheffield.ac.uk/linguistics/home/all-about-linguistics/about-website/branches-linguistics/semantics
 

 

Edited August 13, 2025 by Grey Cloud

[Grey Cloud]

Valve Responds To PayPal Banning Steam

 

[belegost]

I have  currently 5 or 7 other payment options available for Steam, none of which involve pp, visa, mastercard or any other big processor. They are actually more convenient and, being local, I don't have to worry about exchange rate charging me more than I expected.

 

I had only used pp out of habit since I set it up years ago when it was the only option available (and fairly expensive). Recently I had to choose one of those other options and lo and behold, it worked much better than pp ever did.

 

In the light of this, I am actually grateful for the whole kerfuffle since it led me to discover alternatives exist, and had apparently existed for some time. I just never bothered checking. Needless to say, I am not going to bother using so called "big processors" anymore, since I have no use for them.

[RavnaRiikr]

On 8/12/2025 at 6:02 PM, Tefnacht said:

Second: If you buy an ISP contract you should be able to say: “I am a lazy parent and I want the kiddy pool internet for my seamen trophy so I don't have to bother with what they do online.” Then your connection gets assigned to a specific IP range.

Such "kids-only" mobile data plans have existed for years, not to mention the countless software filters. Taking this into consideration, censoring everyone looks even more stupid.

[Zor2k13]

I thought this was because of those stupid karens from colllective shout in aussie nanny state land? I think this is really about control and money in the western world because the western world is going through a giant sovereign debt crisis and it ain't looking good for the west. The eastern world doesn't have this problem AFAIK.

[Darkpig]

I doubt old Trump-a-dump is going to save the adult games industry. As far as I can tell PayPal is a technology company. So unless I am mistaken PayPal is using their right to refuse service. There is no government intervention here unless you are talking about a screaming orange idiot threatening to sue South Park.

 

As others on this thread have mentioned, other companies will pick up the slack.

[DrunkenCow]

5 hours ago, Darkpig said:

There is no government intervention here unless you are talking about a screaming orange idiot threatening to sue South Park.

 

'k

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/guaranteeing-fair-banking-for-all-americans/

 

Takes effect 60 Days from 8/7.

 

Check your TDS at the door, please.

[Darkpig]

56 minutes ago, DrunkenCow said:

 

'k

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/guaranteeing-fair-banking-for-all-americans/

 

Takes effect 60 Days from 8/7.

 

Check your TDS at the door, please.

Drunk again I see. The fat orange man is as consistent as you are sober. You might as well say he sneezed.

[belegost]

And somehow , in the international forum in a thread about international matter, we arrived at the internal US politics. You guys do have an amazing ability to turn every topic around and make it all about yourselves.

 

Congratulations.

Edited August 15, 2025 by belegost

[Pamatronic]

1 hour ago, belegost said:

And somehow , in the international forum in a thread about international matter, we arrived at the internal US politics. You guys do have an amazing ability to turn every topic around and make it all about yourselves.

Don't really want to dispute this, but I fear that the fat Orange man being inconsistent is in fact a global issue...