Payment Processors Censoring Adult Content

[NotANinj44]

On 8/12/2025 at 6:02 PM, Tefnacht said:

One thing that is very important about this whole hullabaloo is this: It is not about “the children,” it never was. At the same time, this isn't just your run of the mill moral panic either. We have countries all over the western world cracking down on this, basically all at the same time.

 

I know this isn't about “the children” because they're doing it wrong. A decade ago I would have used Hanlon's razor but it is current year and the people in power aren't just geriatrics unable to program their VCR. We're beyond that now. These people know what they're doing.

 

Children cannot access the internet without an adults consent. If you know of an ISP that provides internet access without signing a contract and paying money, please tell me about them, I would immediately switch to their service. Otherwise, children cannot do that on their own.

 

There are parental controls on every browser, some even built into the operating systems itself. There are curated blocklists and even DNS servers specifically designed for youth. Your router has parental controls built in. You just need to fucking use them!

 

What you do NOT do is make this every individual websites problem, demanding they verify user age on their own... somehow. Under enormous threat of state violence. Building the system in a way that you have to prove your age to every website individually, over and over, is a data mining and security nightmare. Which is exactly why they're doing it this way. It isn't the government collecting all your data, it is mUh PrIVate CumPanY!!!! Now it is all just one subpoena away.

 

Of course there will be a bloom of “age verification service providers” like Yoti, Ondato and iDenfy who are all extremely suspect. You think Facebook is a data-kraken? You've seen nothing yet.

 

So how do we do this right?

 

Well, first we figuratively punch all parents who need this in the face for being shit parents.

 

Second: If you buy an ISP contract you should be able to say: “I am a lazy parent and I want the kiddy pool internet for my seamen trophy so I don't have to bother with what they do online.” Then your connection gets assigned to a specific IP range.

Yes we cannot do this with IPv4 but we can absolutely do this with IPv6. Every region gets a normal internet IP range for adults and a kiddy pool.

 

All a website has to do now it check the IP that connects to their server and either serve the real content or bible verses. Or whatever your jurisdiction considers not harmful.

The ISP knows exactly who they're dealing with because they get paid. They know. They must know. From there it is nobody's business.

 

VPN services either have to reject users from the kiddy pool or they can still change the location but have to put the user in that new locations kiddy pool.

 

Are there ways around this? Of course there are. But remember: The chant was to 'protect' the children, not 'force' them to comply. It was about Timmy searching bible verses and accidentally finding furry anal gang bang because that is just so damn easy.

 

Please, do NOT comply with AI face scan age verification. Do NOT send photos of your drivers license to strange websites. Do NOT just suck this up with yet another shrug.

Unfortunately, this is the reality in europe. Every country has their own laws and rules to save the children in their opinion, but lacks in effectiveness. The result: Most of the games steam delisted wasn´t even available in germany due the laws that only from the USK controlled (Its like PEGI or ESRB) games are allowed to sell on digital markets or in the store. We had so much games which got censored (Saints Row 2 was the worst case, half of the game was censored, even gameplay activities were deleted) or didn´t even came out in germany (e.g. Doom 64 or Dead Rising). 

 

Don´t let you trick, this is not for the children. Its for them to control you. 

[belegost]

1 hour ago, Pamatronic said:

Don't really want to dispute this, but I fear that the fat Orange man being inconsistent is in fact a global issue...

Irrelevant. What I said is an observation that's been going on for as long I have access to Internet, regardless of what flavour is currently in fashion.

 

Quarter century and counting.

[belegost]

1 hour ago, NotANinj44 said:

europe

 

1 hour ago, NotANinj44 said:

germany

Germany is not whole of Europe, thank Talos. Your censorship laws fortunately do not apply outside of your federation.

Edited August 15, 2025 by belegost

[Pamatronic]

*Angry German noises*

[belegost]

7 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

*Angry German noises*

Would you like a tiny mustache with that?

[Grey Cloud]

52 minutes ago, belegost said:

Would you like a tiny mustache with that?

He was Austrian. 🧐

[belegost]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

He was Austrian. 🧐

Weißwurstäquator is irrelevant.

[Count Chocula]

On 8/15/2025 at 4:01 AM, Pamatronic said:

Don't really want to dispute this, but I fear that the fat Orange man being inconsistent is in fact a global issue...

And anyone who does dispute that U.S. policies and politics have a huge impact on the world is not paying attention. And the same can be said of E.U. policies and politics.

[Grey Cloud]

25 minutes ago, Count Chocula said:

And anyone who does dispute that U.S. policies and politics have a huge impact on the world is not paying attention. And the same can be said of E.U. policies and politics.

Some US policies do and some don't. Even the policies which do affect 'the world' rarely affect all the world.

[Count Chocula]

On 9/2/2025 at 3:18 PM, Grey Cloud said:

[Their usual pointless hair-splitting]

You post things that I imagine you think are on point.

[Grey Cloud]

9 hours ago, Count Chocula said:

You post things that I imagine you think are on point.

Merely correcting your incorrect sweeping generalisation.

[Michele Magus]

Doesn't Elon Musk own a chunk of PayPal stock?

[Count Chocula]

3 hours ago, Michele Magus said:

Doesn't Elon Musk own a chunk of PayPal stock?

If it's still a separate entity and not wholly a part of ebay he probably does since he co-founded the thing, I do believe.