Oblivion Remaster

[MothGyaru]

3 minutes ago, blue1820 said:

I added the game to my wish list but probably will not be buying till a future sale, but i seen this review on steam saying the EULA says they are using anti-cheat in a single player game that scans your system for cheats and there is a section that says you are not allowed to use or share mods?

 

Can someone that has the game confirm this, or is it a troll review?

LMFAO its a troll don't worry there is no anti cheat

[Darkpig]

23 minutes ago, MothGyaru said:

LMFAO its a troll don't worry there is no anti cheat

Your proof?

[travelmedic]

5 hours ago, Lady Wintrish said:

I think they sit at a table and said "We will never do the same mistake again". Skyrim did a lot damage to them in the long term. A lot of people didn't buy they're new games cause of Skyrim. I'm pretty sure that from now on they will do everything to make the game not moddable. Expect a lot of mini updates like Rockstar with GTA and RDR. They give us the Oblivion Remastered but they don't want people to be stuck on this for 10 years.

 

I'll have to respectfully disagree with this.

 

For me, Skyrim was my "gateway drug."  I used to play almost exclusively Civilization type games, but had a guy at work who was always talking about some game where he could run around anywhere on the map he wanted to go, do anything he wanted to do, and he did it while he had some naked vampire chick following him.  Turns out it was Skyrim and based on what he talked about I bought it, and then he introduced me to Nexus Mods and from there LL.  Now I also have Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 4, Fallout NV, ESO, Starfield and now Oblivion Remastered.  Skyrim sucked me in and got me hooked on BGS games, and one of the main draws for me is the moddability and being able to play as I want to with the mods I want.  BGS took plenty of my money because of Skyrim, not in spite of it.

[Snoopy911]

47 minutes ago, blue1820 said:

I added the game to my wish list but probably will not be buying till a future sale, but i seen this review on steam saying the EULA says they are using anti-cheat in a single player game that scans your system for cheats and there is a section that says you are not allowed to use or share mods?

 

Can someone that has the game confirm this, or is it a troll review?

Companies usually have one standard eula and since they also have other types of games this makes sense.
The only good reason for waiting for me is wait for some interesting mods. If there are none rather get the original if you never played the game before.

[MothGyaru]

32 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

Your proof?

EULAs say it now but you can straight up jsut look it up on Google even and it will tell you they arnt doing it. There is nothing in the actual files I have seen either and everything seems pretty accessible. People are already modding the game now too, but people will fear monger alot and rial people up which is a bit of trolling In a way or others jsut jumping the gun on things and acting like we are doomed they are scanning the single player games yatta yatta. He'll I play the sims and EA says they will van people over use of mods that involve stuff like the bestiality stuff but they never have actully done anything, and that's EA now with Bethesda which has never ever had a history of cracking down at all on single player mods then really there isn't anything to worry about this anti cheat stuff in the EULA.

Edited April 23, 2025 by MothGyaru
More details

[Darkpig]

10 minutes ago, MothGyaru said:

EULAs say it now but you can straight up jsut look it up on Google even and it will tell you they arnt doing it. There is nothing in the actual files I have seen either and everything seems pretty accessible. People are already modding the game now too, but people will fear monger alot and rial people up which is a bit of trolling In a way or others jsut jumping the gun on things and acting like we are doomed they are scanning the single player games yatta yatta. He'll I play the sims and EA says they will van people over use of mods that involve stuff like the bestiality stuff but they never have actully done anything, and that's EA now with Bethesda which has never ever had a history of cracking down at all on single player mods then really there isn't anything to worry about this anti cheat stuff in the EULA.

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2623190_eula_0

Spoiler

2. SOFTWARE UPDATES AND ANTI-CHEATING AND SECURITY TOOLS.
ZeniMax may deploy or provide patches, updates, improvements, upgrades, and modifications to the Game (“Updates”) that must be installed by you in the manner described by ZeniMax, in its discretion, before you may continue to play the Game. All such Updates are part of the Game for purposes of this Agreement, the licenses granted to you, and the License Limitations set forth in this Agreement. The terms of this Agreement will govern any Updates provided by ZeniMax that replace and/or supplement the original Game, unless such Updates are accompanied by a separate license agreement in which case the terms of that license agreement will govern. ZENIMAX HAS IMPLEMENTED TOOLS AND SOFTWARE DESIGNED TO DETECT AND PREVENT CHEATING AND FRAUD (“ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS”); THESE TECHNOLOGIES MAY SCAN ANY COMPUTER OR DEVICE FROM WHICH YOU DOWNLOAD OR PLAY THE GAME TO DETECT OR IDENTIFY ANY PROGRAMS OR PROCESSES DESIGNED TO “CHEAT,” GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE IN THE GAME OR OTHERWISE CIRCUMVENT ANY SECURITY, ANTI-CHEAT OR FRAUD DETECTION PROCESSES, OR TOOLS WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED (“CHEAT PROGRAMS”). BY USING OR DOWNLOADING THE GAME OR ACCEPTING THIS AGREEMENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND EXPRESSLY AGREE TO THE ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER OR DEVICE BY THESE ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS TO IDENTIFY OR DETECT CHEAT PROGRAMS.

 

[MothGyaru]

3 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2623190_eula_0

  Reveal hidden contents

2. SOFTWARE UPDATES AND ANTI-CHEATING AND SECURITY TOOLS.
ZeniMax may deploy or provide patches, updates, improvements, upgrades, and modifications to the Game (“Updates”) that must be installed by you in the manner described by ZeniMax, in its discretion, before you may continue to play the Game. All such Updates are part of the Game for purposes of this Agreement, the licenses granted to you, and the License Limitations set forth in this Agreement. The terms of this Agreement will govern any Updates provided by ZeniMax that replace and/or supplement the original Game, unless such Updates are accompanied by a separate license agreement in which case the terms of that license agreement will govern. ZENIMAX HAS IMPLEMENTED TOOLS AND SOFTWARE DESIGNED TO DETECT AND PREVENT CHEATING AND FRAUD (“ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS”); THESE TECHNOLOGIES MAY SCAN ANY COMPUTER OR DEVICE FROM WHICH YOU DOWNLOAD OR PLAY THE GAME TO DETECT OR IDENTIFY ANY PROGRAMS OR PROCESSES DESIGNED TO “CHEAT,” GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE IN THE GAME OR OTHERWISE CIRCUMVENT ANY SECURITY, ANTI-CHEAT OR FRAUD DETECTION PROCESSES, OR TOOLS WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED (“CHEAT PROGRAMS”). BY USING OR DOWNLOADING THE GAME OR ACCEPTING THIS AGREEMENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND EXPRESSLY AGREE TO THE ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER OR DEVICE BY THESE ANTI-CHEAT TOOLS TO IDENTIFY OR DETECT CHEAT PROGRAMS.

 

Read all what i said please, if your really worried don't download mods, but they are not worried about single player games and what way you try and mod it to make gooner stuff, or give yourself god weapons in this single player game. Your ant going to get banned to really don't freak out, if you really are worried just wait and see if they just Crack down on mods and start banning people in thier single player game that they have literly no history of doing. 

[Darkpig]

1 hour ago, MothGyaru said:

 just wait and see

That is what I was planning to do all along.

 

PS. I noticed there are three posts about the same thing. This is why I am hesitant:

 

Edited April 23, 2025 by Darkpig

[MiyuShinonomiya]

What I'm excited about is having the same level of moddability while not having to install 800 mods just to fix how the game looks.

 

Mods can actually spend more time being focused on adding features or trying cool things.

Edited April 23, 2025 by MiyuShinonomiya

[MonVert]

Come on, barbed khajiit penises or bust! I believe in you, Lover's Lab!

 

Looking at you, @Bad Dog 😜

Edited April 23, 2025 by MonVert

[Jeff_9]

Does the game not have hair physics? I've watched a few gameplay videos, and I'm not seeing it.

[igorkeri]

The team behind the Unofficial Oblivion Patch are looking into it now. They've already noticed some of their fixes have been forwarded into the remaster. They haven't dismissed the notion of creating a remastered patch, but obviously it's going to take a while to see which fixes have carried over or which ones are no longer relevant, and so on. But bottom line, it shows the game can be modded.

 

Also, Haphestia over at nexus just uploaded this. Starter Camp at Oblivion Remastered Nexus - Mods and community   It's not much, but a proof of concept that things can be added into the game. I think in terms of LL mods though, it will be quite different. Adult mods for Skyrim didn't really start getting great until 4 years after the game's release, but then again, we didn't have all the tools accessible to us now. Just something that removes underwear for now would be sweet. 😁

[Count Chocula]

6 hours ago, blue1820 said:

I added the game to my wish list but probably will not be buying till a future sale, but i seen this review on steam saying the EULA says they are using anti-cheat in a single player game that scans your system for cheats and there is a section that says you are not allowed to use or share mods?

 

Can someone that has the game confirm this, or is it a troll review?

One person conjectured that it is boilerplate language perhaps erroneously copied from the ESO EULA.

[Decèdere]

Any ideas why it includes the OG assets in the Data folder if it isn't using them? And if it isn't using them if/how assets can actually be replaced? And also, what is the average texture resolution the remake is using?

[belegost]

7 hours ago, travelmedic said:

Now I also have Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 4, Fallout NV, ESO, Starfield and now Oblivion Remastered

You're still missing two games.

[belegost]

6 hours ago, MiyuShinonomiya said:

not having to install 800 mods just to fix how the game looks.

Give it another 10 years and you will.

Edited April 23, 2025 by belegost

[belegost]

11 hours ago, ANGRYWOLVERINE said:

Todd in the past said

Todd had said many things.  Many of those things didn't "just work (tm)".

 

I would sooner make a deal with Clavicus Vile than trust what "Todd said".

[Feldspare]

I played Oblivion when I was a kiddo, so it’s great being able to play this updated version. I can give a rundown of how it plays.

 

Graphically, everything is better. Models, textures, UI are all improved. The animations are much better and less stiff than the original.

 

Combat is mostly the same with some small tweaks.

1. Biggest change is that weapons have movesets. And power attacks change based on what point in the moveset you are in.

2. You can sprint.

3. You can jump while sprinting.

4. You can attack and cast spells while jumping.

5. Archery feels more like Skyrim.

6.  There’s a hit reticle when dealing damage from range.

7. Blocking a light attack causes the opponent to stagger. You stagger when light attacking into a block. I think that’s the same as before. I haven’t leveled up my block so I don’t know what else you can do with it. 

8. There is a dodge roll when your acrobatics reach level 25.

9. All spell effects were updated and they look better. For example the drain spell makes particles shoot out from the target and then seek you out and enter your character. Looks cool but not overdone. 
10. The quick select menu from the original game is still there. You can assign items to 1-9 and when holding the quick select key you can click on them as well. The game no longer pauses when you have quick select open. UI for it looks better.

 

Non combat related updates

1. When picking herbs there’s an interesting little animation that plays. Makes it look like the plant is popping upwards.

2. The underwater breath timer seems to be shorter, so certain spells/potions/enchants that give underwater breathing will be more useful if you are looking for ingredients underwater water.
3. All the quests appear to be exactly the same. I’ve done about 10 of them so far. 
4. All voice lines are exactly the same, but I have noticed some new ones mixed in there for unnamed NPCs.

5. Persuasion mini game works the same with the wheel, but it has updated UI.

6. Facial animations are much better.

7. Lock picking tumbler mini game is exactly the same, UI slightly better. 
8. The character creation follows the spirit of the original game and has a most of its original options.

9. Sneaking is the same but with better animations and the Eye UI is better.

 

That’s all I can remember off the top of my head.

Edited April 23, 2025 by Feldspare

[Feldspare]

6 hours ago, Jeff_9 said:

Does the game not have hair physics? I've watched a few gameplay videos, and I'm not seeing it.

No hair physics

[FattiBaldi]

Seems you've already forgotten Starfield. No proper sex mods because of Bethesda splitting the body into 2. If it's the same in OR, I can't see much being done sadly.

[Feldspare]

9 minutes ago, FattiBaldi said:

Seems you've already forgotten Starfield. No proper sex mods because of Bethesda splitting the body into 2. If it's the same in OR, I can't see much being done sadly.

Original Oblivion split the body in two and it had adult mods.

[yiffboy]

just thought id but in on the conversation here. 

i had a little poky poke around the files and while the remaster does not use the BSA files from the original (they're in a folder labeled dev, and they're full of the old meshes) the unreal engine files. specifically the .pak is from what i can see just a standard unreal engine 5.5 .pak file. which means it can be opened using the built in unrealPAK.exe program that comes free with any unreal engine install. 

 

i tried extracting it. and largely succeeded i think. have the .uproject file it asked about some source files when i first ran it but it seems to have generated those once i tried to start it. it is asking for about a billion different plugins. i succeeded in downloading one of them. so its possible to just download all of them assuming they're free. im currently tryin to extract the monstrous 111GB UCAS file. if i were to hazard an uneducated guess. that's probably where all the new assets are hiding. 

 

anyway. my point is. the file format is not some alien hyper proprietary stuff. it seems to be bog standard unreal engine files. we'll probably need some kind of tool to merge different mods together into one .pak file that actually gets to run. but that strikes me as perfect MO2 food. to me. who keep in mind, just knows some unreal engine stuff. i haven't made any proper mods or anything. but to me, this seems perfectly doable. especially for the TES modding community. even without Bethesda support. we have original creation kit tools for oblivion, and we have all the documentation in the world from epic for unreal engine. 

[yiffboy]

1 hour ago, FattiBaldi said:

Seems you've already forgotten Starfield. No proper sex mods because of Bethesda splitting the body into 2. If it's the same in OR, I can't see much being done sadly.

I'm pretty sure starfield has no sexmods because starfield has no players. like starfield right now has 2800 players on steam. Skyrim special edition for reference. has 21000. 

[MiyuShinonomiya]

2 hours ago, FattiBaldi said:

Seems you've already forgotten Starfield. No proper sex mods because of Bethesda splitting the body into 2. If it's the same in OR, I can't see much being done sadly.

Starfield modders specifically stated that they gave up not because Starfield wasn't capable, they were getting bored to death and quit.

4 hours ago, belegost said:

Todd had said many things.  Many of those things didn't "just work (tm)".

 

I would sooner make a deal with Clavicus Vile than trust what "Todd said".

If this was strictly a Bethesda project, I'd agree with you but it isn't. They're working in partnership with a more competent team than what they're used to, which has worked well for them in the past. And if you've played it yourself, it works better than most people could have even imagined. I thought it would be an instant disaster, given Bethesda's recent track record and tone-deafness toward its community.

 

I don't know how negative your experience with the remaster has been, but mine has been surprisingly positive and somewhat difficult to find much to complain about. It's like this remaster was made with things the community would want in mind. Still, not everyone has to like it.

Edited April 23, 2025 by MiyuShinonomiya

[Feldspare]

9 minutes ago, MiyuShinonomiya said:

And if you've played it yourself, it works better than most people could have even imagined. I thought it would be an instant disaster,

Same. I was expecting this to be a disaster, but it works surprisingly well. Kudos to that Virtuous team or whatever they are called. 
 

You can really tell the quality of the game skyrockets when you are using a modern game engine with a competent team.

 

they should just have this team do ES6