Devious Curses NG

cybercheese · February 4

On 2/2/2026 at 5:49 AM, Seeker999 said:

Is it safe to update from 0.7.4 to 0.8.2? Thanks.

It should be. The only issue would be MCM quirks which are uncommon but possible.

On 2/2/2026 at 8:17 AM, pnutz78 said:

Thanks you for making this fun mod! How do you get rid of Nocturnal's Piercing? Sorry if I missed the obvious.

You have to have sex with people watching. There is a setting to change how many in the MCM.

On 2/2/2026 at 4:07 PM, bruh123213 said:

Hey! Quick question about the dwarven cuirass. Does it work for BHUNP ? it looks to like its only 3BA. If not is there a conversion available?

I don't believe that there is a conversion for BHUNP unfortunately. I am using the assets from this mod, so if there are conversions for that it would be super easy to add them to Devious Curses, but after a quick search I didn't find anything. If you (or anyone else) finds or makes a good conversion I'll happily add it.

9 hours ago, Crota said:

I like the new additions of the warrior, scout, and witch restraints. The only issue is the more restraints that get equipped on your character the more of a backlog is created when combat is happening. If I have a full set equipped and I attack something I get messages popping up for 15-30 seconds. Is there a way those notifications could be instead shown in the top corner? Because if I try to do any length of combat in the restraints the notifications get very backlogged and take over 5 minutes until the display clears.

Exactly as @Vollkornstulle said, this is an issue with Unforgiving Devices that is not fixable on my end. I also wish that they were more configurable (or able to be disabled entirely) but that's just how it is for now.

February 6

I'm really just sharing some information. I was looting a Falmer and was notified that I felt Wicked or something like that. I think it strips your outfit when this happens. I was covered with DD items so nothing stripped. I honestly don't know if this is from DC but I don't really have any other mod that does similar things. After the notification, I tried to load my bound bow. The game immediately crashed. I repeated the save and the notification came later but still occurred. 3 or 4 lootings later. All Falmer. I again tried to load my bound bow and the game crashed again. I'm on 1170 and my crashlog analyzer doesn't work but I am attaching two crash logs for both of these instances.

If the "Naughty" or "Wicked" is not from this mod, I would appreciate very much knowing so I can track this down. It happened once before in this playthrough but I didn't connect the dots to the notification. I purposely tested the scenario this time and it repeated. Basically, bound bow equipped, notification, bound bow disabled but no clothing disabled since I didn't have any on. Try and equip bound bow and crash. 🥰

Without the CLA.sse working I can't really tell what happened.

crash-2026-02-06-00-49-36.log crash-2026-02-06-01-01-07.log

CaptainJ03 · February 6

Adding to @TFor2 post, it would be really nice if the possibilities for events that rely on mods you don't have, would be flat zero. I randomly get that "you're feeling wicked" or some line about a warrior/witch/whatever set equipped, but w/o UD nothing else happens, it's just annoying.

(never used a bound bow, so I cannot give feedback to that)

Another issue with the oppressive devices.

I only have the Dwemer Cuirass active, but with the "location required" toggle on. Everything else is set to zero, but nonetheless the Living Latex gets equipped, maybe as a default. Would be nice if those zeroes would be heeded.

Seeker999 · February 6

15 hours ago, TFor2 said:

I tried to load my bound bow. The game immediately crashed.

The CTD might not be mod related. There's a whole thread on Nexus about CTD and Bound weapons.

I had this problem once and here are my notes from that time (spoilered for length - didn't feel like editing, lol)

Spoiler

player.resetinventory
save your game
open the console and run the above command
since I only use bound weapons when all my inventory has been taken, I shouldn't have to worry.
I can follow the steps in the original post to temporarily remove quest items and remaining inventory.

OPTIONAL
First of all, you must empty your inventory to see if there's anything wrong with it. BTW.
THE STEPS
1. store all the items in your inventory in the nearest container (can even be a corpse).
If you have items that you can't store in a container (such as quest items), then drop them using the following console command (unfortunately, you need the ID of that item to do this)...
player.drop <ITEM_ID> <Count>
2. When you get rid of all the items in your inventory, you'll probably notice something strange, an invisible item in your inventory that weighs 1 (maybe more)!
3. Well, never mind that, whatever it is, we'll get rid of it. To do that use the following command...
player.resetinventory
4. Now you have a bunch of stuff in your inventory. The command above resets your inventory and gives you a set of starting equipment.
5. At this point, you may try using Bound Sword. Hopefully you won't get CTDs anymore.
6. Notice that you haven't lost any of the active effects!
7. So pick up the stuff you stored in the container and move on to a new adventure. Problem solved!

Others said it worked w/o dropping inventory
Others said it worked on other bound weapon spells

Hope this helps.

February 6

6 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

The CTD might not be mod related. There's a whole thread on Nexus about CTD and Bound weapons.

I had this problem once and here are my notes from that time (spoilered for length - didn't feel like editing, lol)

Hide contents

player.resetinventory
save your game
open the console and run the above command
since I only use bound weapons when all my inventory has been taken, I shouldn't have to worry.
I can follow the steps in the original post to temporarily remove quest items and remaining inventory.

OPTIONAL
First of all, you must empty your inventory to see if there's anything wrong with it. BTW.
THE STEPS
1. store all the items in your inventory in the nearest container (can even be a corpse).
If you have items that you can't store in a container (such as quest items), then drop them using the following console command (unfortunately, you need the ID of that item to do this)...
player.drop <ITEM_ID> <Count>
2. When you get rid of all the items in your inventory, you'll probably notice something strange, an invisible item in your inventory that weighs 1 (maybe more)!
3. Well, never mind that, whatever it is, we'll get rid of it. To do that use the following command...
player.resetinventory
4. Now you have a bunch of stuff in your inventory. The command above resets your inventory and gives you a set of starting equipment.
5. At this point, you may try using Bound Sword. Hopefully you won't get CTDs anymore.
6. Notice that you haven't lost any of the active effects!
7. So pick up the stuff you stored in the container and move on to a new adventure. Problem solved!

Others said it worked w/o dropping inventory
Others said it worked on other bound weapon spells

Hope this helps.

Thank you. I will try this the next time it happens. I have a mod that removes the weight from items so I carry most everything I find in a game with me throughout a playthrough. Never thought to check for bugs with it. I know that's not related and not sure why I shared that. I'm a little emotional right now for some reason. I am surprised when people help sometimes. I need to remember that this is what nice people do. Anyway - a hug from me. Sorry if the gender is wrong. 🥰

Edited February 6 by TFor2

February 6

17 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Adding to @TFor2 post, it would be really nice if the possibilities for events that rely on mods you don't have, would be flat zero. I randomly get that "you're feeling wicked" or some line about a warrior/witch/whatever set equipped, but w/o UD nothing else happens, it's just annoying.

(never used a bound bow, so I cannot give feedback to that)

Another issue with the oppressive devices.

I only have the Dwemer Cuirass active, but with the "location required" toggle on. Everything else is set to zero, but nonetheless the Living Latex gets equipped, maybe as a default. Would be nice if those zeroes would be heeded.

Thank you for helping me know the notifications are from this mod. I don't have unforgiving devices installed either and I get the feel wicked, warrior, etc. notifications. And I also get Living Latex applied when it is set to zero. The last test game, I was getting the plugs applied that do things even though it was zero. Not so far in this game and Living Latex is not very often. I AddItem a key if this happens. It's not like the Living Latex doesn't work, I just don't like the look in game. 🤗

cybercheese · February 7

On 2/5/2026 at 10:09 PM, CaptainJ03 said:

Adding to @TFor2 post, it would be really nice if the possibilities for events that rely on mods you don't have, would be flat zero. I randomly get that "you're feeling wicked" or some line about a warrior/witch/whatever set equipped, but w/o UD nothing else happens, it's just annoying.

7 hours ago, TFor2 said:

I don't have unforgiving devices installed either and I get the feel wicked, warrior, etc. notifications. And I also get Living Latex applied when it is set to zero.

Turns out there is a bug where certain events can trigger when they are not supposed to if every other event fails to trigger and the remaining ones have a weight of zero. Gotta love undefined behaviors in c++ 🙃. This will be fixed in the next update.

February 7

Well, it seems to be consistent now. Used my bound bow many times without issue. Looted a chest and was equipped with the Living Latex. Decided to test with it. Exited a fort and was fighting Foresworn. Equipped a real sword, used it. Equipped healing spell, used it without issue. Equipped bound bow, crash. I have the Living Latex set to 0 chance. Hope the log helps.

crash-2026-02-07-18-27-03.log

EDIT: For anyone reading this, I do not want to connect DC with my bound bow issue. It simply occurs at the same time. A friend told me that a drop of water falling on your face can hit many tiny parts of your skin. Which part of your skin or tiny bit of the drop of rain that caused irritation would take much study to determine. This issue is the same way. What piece of my modlist did this and why, probably unknowable. Never happened before but I upgraded midsave, so I am going to go with this. Posted the logs in case anyone likes to punish their brain on a Saturday. 🥰

Edited February 7 by TFor2
New info

Omnishade · February 10

I fulfilled the condition for a mark but the debuff remains in my active effects list with a 0. I had to use the debug menu to remove it. Is that the intention for now?

cybercheese · February 13

On 2/10/2026 at 1:13 PM, Omnishade said:

I fulfilled the condition for a mark but the debuff remains in my active effects list with a 0. I had to use the debug menu to remove it. Is that the intention for now?

This is not intended behavior. Which mark was it?
Also was the mark removed from the character, but the effect was still visible, or were they both still there?

Dr4gonl4yer · February 13

Hi, I'm having a couple of issues with this mod. Hopefully i can get some guidance.

I'm playing the Steam AE version and I think I've got all the dependancies covered, since aside from this two issues the mod is working as intended.

Issue number 1:

My character is a female Nord, turned into a futanari by selecting TRX Futanari Addon in Shlongs of Skyrim MCM (i'm using CBBE 3BA for the body), with animations also set to male in the SexLab MCM. I also have Vivi's Cockcages SE TRX CBBE + the Vivi's Cockcages SE TRX CBBE Devious Patch.

My first issue is that even though I've made sure to check the relevant Futanari Chastity checkbox in this mod MCM, Devious Curses never equips cockcages on any futa character (mine or follower), only regular chastity belts. I've already tried changing the mods load order but it doesn't seem to matter.

In the Vivis Cockcages SE TRX CBBE - Devious Patch page it mentions needing help to make them spawn on SOS enabled characters but in this mod page it's mentioned under the optional mods section.

Did i do something wrong? There's some other box that i need to check to make sure that my character is recognized as futa? Or is this an incompatibility between this two mods? And if so any chances to get it patched?

Issue number 2:

I've enabled the option that will equip restraints on my followers in this mod MCM. Eerything is working as it should, if my character gets in some predicament so do the followers. I can them remove thos bindings from my followers by talking to them and unequipping the desired item in the trade menu as long as I have the appropriate restraint keys.

The problem is that sometimes the followers end up equiped with some gag and as result of that I cannot access the item transfer menu anymore. Basically if the end up gagged I can't talk to them and so I can't remove any binding, effectively making them "permabound" unless i reload a previous save.

Is there some option that I missed to eventually remove ballgags equipped on followers? I don't want to blacklist them, just be able to still access the follower menu to eventually remove them. My character can usually "talk" just fine even when gagged but I never get that option when the followers are gagged.

Aside from this two issues everything else is working fine and I'm enjoying this mod.

cybercheese · February 13

1 hour ago, Dr4gonl4yer said:

My first issue is that even though I've made sure to check the relevant Futanari Chastity checkbox in this mod MCM, Devious Curses never equips cockcages on any futa character (mine or follower), only regular chastity belts. I've already tried changing the mods load order but it doesn't seem to matter.

In the Vivis Cockcages SE TRX CBBE - Devious Patch page it mentions needing help to make them spawn on SOS enabled characters but in this mod page it's mentioned under the optional mods section.

Did i do something wrong? There's some other box that i need to check to make sure that my character is recognized as futa? Or is this an incompatibility between this two mods? And if so any chances to get it patched?

I'm actually working on this right now as I've found some bugs myself, so I'm not surprised it's not working. However I would not expect belts to be equipped at all if you've set Use Gendered Chastity to true.

1 hour ago, Dr4gonl4yer said:

The problem is that sometimes the followers end up equiped with some gag and as result of that I cannot access the item transfer menu anymore. Basically if the end up gagged I can't talk to them and so I can't remove any binding, effectively making them "permabound" unless i reload a previous save.

This is a good point. Ive only been using Unforgiving Devices recently, so I forgot that this was a mechanic of base DD. An option will be added to the MCM in the next update.

Dr4gonl4yer · February 13

6 hours ago, cybercheese said:

I'm actually working on this right now as I've found some bugs myself, so I'm not surprised it's not working. However I would not expect belts to be equipped at all if you've set Use Gendered Chastity to true.

This is a good point. Ive only been using Unforgiving Devices recently, so I forgot that this was a mechanic of base DD. An option will be added to the MCM in the next update.

Gendered Chastity is set to true but as I said I never get the cockcages. I'm not sure if I need to do anything else for characters to be recognized as Futa, I've used the SOS MCM to equip the TRX shlong and the SexLab MCM to set animations to Male. No idea if I need to change other MCM settings or add other mods.

Anyway thank you, I'll wait for the next update.

PolskiHusarz20 · February 14

Hello, I've encountered an issue.
Sheogorath plug does not count the orgasms.
I use the most recent version of the DC NG, DD NG, OSL Aroused combined with SLSO and all of the remaining dependencies but I do not use the UD.
This issue occurs both in my existing saves and a new one I made to try if its caused by recently upgrading the DC NG.

cybercheese · February 14

1 hour ago, PolskiHusarz20 said:

Hello, I've encountered an issue.
Sheogorath plug does not count the orgasms.
I use the most recent version of the DC NG, DD NG, OSL Aroused combined with SLSO and all of the remaining dependencies but I do not use the UD.
This issue occurs both in my existing saves and a new one I made to try if its caused by recently upgrading the DC NG.

By default the plug only counts orgasms caused by devious devices, and not orgasms from SexLab. There is a setting for this in the Oppressive Devices MCM.
The next update will make this more obvious as requested by discord.

*Herowynne* · February 14

Running Skyrim SE 1.5.97. Upgraded from 0.8.2 to 0.8.3 and I am now getting CTD when loading an existing save.

The CTD occurs shortly after all the notification messages have cleared after loading the save, maybe a couple seconds after the last notification message.

The crash's stack trace indicates that the problem is occurring in the Devious Curses fast travel code in DeviousCurses.dll:

Spoiler

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FF811B55E68 on thread 8100!

FrameworkName: NetScriptFramework
FrameworkVersion: 15
FrameworkArchitecture: x64
GameLibrary: SkyrimSE
GameLibraryVersion: 18
ApplicationName: SkyrimSE.exe
ApplicationVersion: 1.5.97.0
VersionInfo: Successfully loaded
Time: 14 Feb 2026 13:50:39.537

Possible relevant objects (3)
{
[ 1] BGSLocation(Name: `Abandoned Prison`, FormId: 000ECF4C, File: `Animal_Research.esp <- Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Skyrim.esm`)
[ 5] TESNPC(Name: `Wynne`, FormId: 00000007, File: `FemalePlayerDefault.esp <- Animal_Research.esp <- Skyrim.esm`)
[ 5] PlayerCharacter(FormId: 00000014, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Wynne`, FormId: 00000007, File: `FemalePlayerDefault.esp <- Animal_Research.esp <- Skyrim.esm`))
}

Probable callstack
{
[0] 0x7FF811B55E68
[1] 0x7FFC78F9C203 (DeviousCurses.dll+3C203)
[2] 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE
[3] 0x1F7549A18A0
[4] 0x1F879EEA080
[5] 0x7FF7B9C19EB8 (SkyrimSE.exe+C29EB8) BSFixedString::Release_C29E80+38
[6] 0x7FF700000015
[7] 0x7FFC7904F948 (DeviousCurses.dll+EF948)
[8] 0x1F7956E41C0
[9] 0xE90DA60EAC62
}

Registers
{
AX: 0x7FF811B55E68 (u64):[140703425715816]
BX: 0x0 (NULL)
CX: 0xBFFD01A6 (u32):[3221029286] (f32):[-1.976613]
DX: 0xA7 (u8):[167]
SI: 0x1F7956E4100 (BSScript::Internal::VirtualMachine*)
DI: 0x422DCF9718 (void*)
BP: 0x422DCF95E9 (void*)
SP: 0x422DCF9568 (void*)
IP: 0x7FF811B55E68 (u64):[140703425715816]
R8: 0x1F7134942C0 (void*)
R9: 0x0 (NULL)
R10: 0x1F713490000 (void*)
R11: 0x422DCF9460 (void*)
R12: 0xBFFD01A6 (u32):[3221029286] (f32):[-1.976613]
R13: 0xA7 (u8):[167]
R14: 0x1F88738F000 (BGSLocation*) -> (Name: `Abandoned Prison`, FormId: 000ECF4C, File: `Animal_Research.esp <- Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Skyrim.esm`)
R15: 0x0 (NULL)
Flags: 0x10246
XMM0: (double)5.83535890880984E-315 / (float)14720
XMM1: (double)1.45754907548936E+252 / (float)1.759051E+22
XMM2: (double)5.26130108235624E+180 / (float)7.069604E+28
XMM3: (double)0 / (float)0
XMM4: (double)0 / (float)0
XMM5: (double)0 / (float)0
XMM6: (double)5.21158012701779E-315 / (float)0.4365495
XMM7: (double)5.21158012701779E-315 / (float)0.4365495
XMM8: (double)5.07920315214627E-315 / (float)0.0485055
XMM9: (double)5.07920315214627E-315 / (float)0.0485055
XMM10: (double)5.07920315214627E-315 / (float)0.0485055
XMM11: (double)5.20353884302314E-315 / (float)0.388044
XMM12: (double)0 / (float)0
XMM13: (double)0 / (float)0
XMM14: (double)0 / (float)0
XMM15: (double)0 / (float)0
}

Stack
{
[SP+0] 0x7FFC78F9C203 (DeviousCurses.dll+3C203) (void*)
[SP+8] 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE (i64):[-2]
[SP+10] 0x1F7549A18A0 (void*)
[SP+18] 0x1F879EEA080 (PlayerCharacter*) -> (FormId: 00000014, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Wynne`, FormId: 00000007, File: `FemalePlayerDefault.esp <- Animal_Research.esp <- Skyrim.esm`))
[SP+20] 0x7FF7B9C19EB8 (SkyrimSE.exe+C29EB8) (void*)
[SP+28] 0x0 (NULL)
[SP+30] 0x7FF7BA253BA8 (SkyrimSE.exe+1263BA8) (void*)
[SP+38] 0x0 (NULL)
[SP+40] 0x0 (NULL)
[SP+48] 0x0 (NULL)
[SP+50] 0x0 (NULL)
[SP+58] 0x7FFC7904F988 (DeviousCurses.dll+EF988) (char*) "Running Fast Travel Code"
[SP+60] 0x18 (u8):[24]
[SP+68] 0x4 (u8):[4]
[SP+70] 0x1F7956E4101 (void*)
[SP+78] 0x7FFC7904F910 (DeviousCurses.dll+EF910) (char*) "S:\Skyrim\modding\devious-curses\src/FastTravel.hpp"
[SP+80] 0x7FF700000015 (u64):[140698833649685]
[SP+88] 0x7FFC7904F948 (DeviousCurses.dll+EF948) (char*) "bool __cdecl DCURSES::CanFastTravelMap(class RE::Actor *,bool)"
[SP+90] 0x1F7956E41C0 (void*)
[SP+98] 0xE90DA60EAC62 (u64):[256244829826146]
[SP+A0] 0x0 (NULL)
[SP+A8] 0x0 (NULL)
[SP+B0] 0x1F88738F000 (BGSLocation*) -> (Name: `Abandoned Prison`, FormId: 000ECF4C, File: `Animal_Research.esp <- Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Skyrim.esm`)
[SP+B8] 0x10D20 (u32):[68896]

cybercheese · February 14

11 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

Running Skyrim SE 1.5.97. Upgraded from 0.8.2 to 0.8.3 and I am now getting CTD when loading an existing save.

The CTD occurs shortly after all the notification messages have cleared after loading the save, maybe a couple seconds after the last notification message.

The crash's stack trace indicates that the problem is occurring in the Devious Curses fast travel code in DeviousCurses.dll:

Didn't realize the relocation only worked for skyrim 1.6.640+. I'll figure out a quick patch for this

cybercheese · February 14

@Herowynne Hotifx is up. Just disables the functionality for now on older versions. When I have a little more time I'll figure out how to get it working on all versions

AlyssaAwoo · February 15

Hey I just thought; What if containers would trigger a detection event when their curse activates? One that is large enough to trigger a good chunk of enemies. That way you might get bound in an armbinder, Deviously Helpless makes you helpless, and then the bandits come over to check. Aaaand you're screwed. Literally. :classic_biggrin:

Would make being a loot whore before the dungeon is clear quite risky.

Edited February 15 by AlyssaAwoo

Dr4gonl4yer · February 15

I've updated to 0.8.3 Hotfix, I've spent some time testing and by the looks of it I can confirm that both of my issues have been solved.

Devious Curses now actually applies Vivi's cockcages on SOS enabled Futa characters (both player and followers).

The MCM setting in the followers tab prevents them from getting equipped with ballgags avoinding "permalocked" followers.

Thank you for the quick fixes 🫡

PolskiHusarz20 · February 15

13 hours ago, cybercheese said:

By default the plug only counts orgasms caused by devious devices, and not orgasms from SexLab. There is a setting for this in the Oppressive Devices MCM.
The next update will make this more obvious as requested by discord.

Well, in my case it didn't count any orgasms at all. Got some through SLSO but also a couple from Devious Devices directly.

mhuy1905 · February 15

Is it just me or some devices don't force equip and have pop up message to let you decide to wear it or not?

Vollkornstulle · February 16

6 hours ago, mhuy1905 said:

Is it just me or some devices don't force equip and have pop up message to let you decide to wear it or not?

It happens usually when you are in the inventory or storage menu.

Then the equip message from DD pops up. The mod usually fixes this by force exiting all menus when an event happens, but I think if you open the menu during the equipping process this happens.

If an event happens just let the mod cook for a bit until it is done properly.

Edited February 16 by Vollkornstulle

CaptainJ03 · February 16

10 hours ago, mhuy1905 said:

Is it just me or some devices don't force equip and have pop up message to let you decide to wear it or not?

That happened regularly with older versions of this mod, but lately it's been quite rare.

mhuy1905 · February 16

11 hours ago, Vollkornstulle said:

It happens usually when you are in the inventory or storage menu.

Then the equip message from DD pops up. The mod usually fixes this by force exiting all menus when an event happens, but I think if you open the menu during the equipping process this happens.

If an event happens just let the mod cook for a bit until it is done properly.

the mod trigger right after I open a container and only happen with basic devices tho

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