Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[kub1nka]

Hello. Help me please. In general, I installed a few mods, now in the game, when talking with a male NPC, literally every other time, the dialogue begins with the words "Come, woman", then orders him to serve, and I have three options for an answer,

1 "as a woman of Skyrim I have to obey men" (something like that)

2 "fuck off" (rejection)

3 "I love when there are male dicks in me" (something like that)

and 99% of the dialogue ends with sex - this is very infuriating, since such a dialogue happens almost after every second call to male NPCs.

It's impossible to play like that. Can you tell me which mod can trigger this dialogue? And how to remove this dialogue? Installed mods supporting simple slavery. Such as SD+, Submissive Lola, QAYL, Captured Dreams, etc. Help me please.

Sorry for the translation.

[AylaElfie]

10 hours ago, kub1nka said:

Hello. Help me please. In general, I installed a few mods, now in the game, when talking with a male NPC, literally every other time, the dialogue begins with the words "Come, woman", then orders him to serve, and I have three options for an answer,

1 "as a woman of Skyrim I have to obey men" (something like that)

2 "fuck off" (rejection)

3 "I love when there are male dicks in me" (something like that)

and 99% of the dialogue ends with sex - this is very infuriating, since such a dialogue happens almost after every second call to male NPCs.

It's impossible to play like that. Can you tell me which mod can trigger this dialogue? And how to remove this dialogue? Installed mods supporting simple slavery. Such as SD+, Submissive Lola, QAYL, Captured Dreams, etc. Help me please.

Sorry for the translation.

Thats the deviously cursed loot misogyny option, I havent used that mod in a while but I thought it was removed in the latest versions? 

[shiagwen]

SD is still bugged and boring ? Thanks.

i got rid of that mod after heavy discussions with SkyrimLL when he took whipping out of the mod. thats many years ago

[kub1nka]

14 hours ago, candibelle said:

Thats the deviously cursed loot misogyny option, I havent used that mod in a while but I thought it was removed in the latest versions? 

Yeah, that's right. Thanks. Then another question arose: In general, through simple slavery I get into the captured dreams mod, I appear in the mine, after the master's introductory speech, I need to pick ore, and so I walked around the whole mine, and there is no place to activate ore mining anywhere. Is this a bug? Or should you only go to the cursed loot mod through a messenger? And then I saw somewhere on the forums that there is a certain sequence there. Any thoughts on this?

[kapibar]

On 3/26/2021 at 3:36 PM, shandareth said:

Hello guys, I've got a problem with the mod. I think I messed up something while unistalling (properly with the button in the mcm menu) and reinstalling it because I cannot enter dreamworld at all. Nothing seems to trigger it. Sleeping in front of sanguine shrine doesn't do anything. I tried also to uncheck all death alternative's blackout events minus the dreamworld one and the result is that when I blackout I simply "succumb to my wounds".  I tried to uninstall it , save the game, clean the script from the save, reinstall it , all of this multiple times but it doesn't work. 

I checked some of the pages of this topic but 717 pages are a bit too much and I didn't find anything except a guy who had the same problem but he never replied again so...   can you help me figure this out?

 

I have similar experience. Entered the Dreamworld, enslaved by Sanguine, spent few days there, asked to be released, a then I couldn't re-enter Dreamworld, even through the shrine. Uninstalled via MCM, but now I can't re-install, the mod is in uninstalled state. Cleared the save, removed SD scripts, and nothing has changed.

[drunken toad]

@DeepBlueFrog Have you thought about separating riekling enslavement from other creatures, like you did with Falmer? (thank you for that btw) And maybe having them equip iron collars instead of spectral? I think they would be smart enough to pick up collars they found in ruins or buildings they've plundered. Just a thought, I think it could be a nice option though.

 

Also, I remember seeing riekling stripes in slavetats before. Was it this mod that added them? I ask because I'm getting Hargraven scrawls on riekling enslavement and I could have sworn there used to be riekling stripes. Could have been from another mod.

[VseTmirykS]

Guys I need help.
SD+ is causing two big bugs that I've encountered at the start of the game - the first one  - most noticible is carry 0 weight bug for some reason.
The second one is that SD+ somehow prevents sexlab animations from running.

I was trying everything and I think it's the brand new SD+ bug. Does someone have Older version from 2019/2020 becouse I remember that I did not encountered such a bug before.

This is my current load order without SD+:

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Dragonborn.esm
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Heels Sound.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
BeeingFemale.esm
daymoyl.esm
SkyUI.esp
UIExtensions.esp
NIOVHH.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
FNIS.esp
RavenWP3.esp
SKtats.esp
SKLayeredpaints.esp
SKpaints1.esp
SKpaints2.esp
BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
FreckleMania.esp
RaceMenu.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCOS.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
[Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
LoksEyes.esp
MikanEyes All in one.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
SexLabTools.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
FamilyTies-Altmer-Taarie-Sibling.esp
FamilyTies-Breton-MichelLylvieve-Parent.esp
FamilyTies-Imperial-AdrianneAvenicci-Parent.esp
FamilyTies-Imperial-CarlottaValentia-Parent.esp
FamilyTies-Nord-Birna-Parent.esp
FamilyTies-Nord-Lemkil-Parent.esp
FamilyTies-Riften-Orphan.esp
FamilyTies.esp
SexLab Extra Voices.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
adcSexlife.esp
DefeatSkillLoss.esp
NoNakedComments.esp
Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
SexLab_RelationshipDialogueSystem.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
zzEstrus.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
EstrusTrappedEggs.esp
GagSFX.esp
GagSFXDawnguard.esp
GagSFXDragonborn.esp
GagSFXHearthfires.esp
SexLab-Parasites.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
TDF Aroused Rape.esp
TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
SexLab Approach.esp
SLSO.esp
SexLab-Stories.esp
SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
SLPrivacy.esp
SpousesEnhanced.esp
animal_mansion.esp
SexLabDBBeds.esp
BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
AmorAdvExtended.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
3DNPC.esp
Cuyima 3DNPC - Redone.esp
PAN_NPCs.esp
PAN_NPCs_DG.esp
PAN_NPCs_DB.esp
PAN_Serana.esp
PAN_Valerica.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin AIO.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
Minerva.esp
Toccata.esp
VeronicaFollower.esp
Vivace.esp
CaesiaFollower.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
AddItemMenuLE.esp
dc-untamed-000.esp
dc-untamed-100-stfu-wolf.esp

[Spectre5342]

On 3/30/2021 at 3:33 PM, shar181 said:

 

If you're just talking about getting the features of each mod to sync up, its pretty easy. You just let DA handle all of the "defeat" scenerios, including the ones from SL Defeat and Sanguine's Debauchery. Unfortunately, the other commentor is right about DA being completely borked. While I had it installed, pretty much every "death" ended in a CDT.

Thanks for telling me the proper order the mods need to handle their defeat sequence. Was having a really strange issue where following rape after enslavement in Sanquine's Debauchery the player would be passed back to SL Defeat and then to DA to play out another scenario but the player is all ready enslaved so it just broke everything and froze the player permanently.

[Spectre5342]

On 3/30/2021 at 3:47 AM, JCPunch94 said:

is there a way to add bodyslide files for the spriggan armor for the flowering spriggan quest

I've tried it myself and its a bit complex. In game there's an option to make the armor CBBE but the meshes when loaded into Outfit Studio aren't CBBE don't know how it pulls that off in order to have the meshes support Bodyslide they need to be CBBE outside the game. You can convert vanilla meshes to CBBE which will add it as a new Bodyslide name in the list if you do it correctly I'm pretty rusty on how to do that only ever did it in Fallout 4 so I'll get back to you.

[l1nkler]

Is there a way to disable the whole kneeling and crawling mechanic? I'm playing in VR and it's very annoying to have to go to my keyboard just to toggle between kneeling and standing.

[DeepBlueFrog]

41 minutes ago, l1nkler said:

Is there a way to disable the whole kneeling and crawling mechanic? I'm playing in VR and it's very annoying to have to go to my keyboard just to toggle between kneeling and standing.

 

Not at the moment I am afraid.

It's cool SD+ is working on Skyrim VR though  ... I didn't know about that.

 

It is a good idea to add to the to-do list but I am not sure when I will get around to implementing it.

[l1nkler]

4 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

Not at the moment I am afraid.

It's cool SD+ is working on Skyrim VR though  ... I didn't know about that.

 

It is a good idea to add to the to-do list but I am not sure when I will get around to implementing it.

Most mods that work in SE will work in VR. But not all are a great experience. General rule for making mods work well in VR is to not have additional keys that are bound on your keyboard. Cause you can't bind those to the controllers. Most mods go around that issue by adding spells instead.

[Karls]

 I got pain. because kneeling animation doesn't work. my character do yoke animation, instead of kneeling animation.

lot of pain I experience. but I got solution.

 

 Change system locale to english. then run Nemesis. now it work well.

 

and thank you frog. It's beautiful mod.

[Fuzzy_Fox]

12 hours ago, l1nkler said:

Is there a way to disable the whole kneeling and crawling mechanic? I'm playing in VR and it's very annoying to have to go to my keyboard just to toggle between kneeling and standing.

If you have the program voice attack just make a profile up for Skyrim and put in the voice commands - 

 

Voice "Stand"= Press Key (arrow up)
Voice "kneel"= Press Key (arrow down)

 

You can also find a VR mod that lets you use voice commands during conversations and shouts. 

[l1nkler]

1 hour ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

If you have the program voice attack just make a profile up for Skyrim and put in the voice commands - 

 

Voice "Stand"= Press Key (arrow up)
Voice "kneel"= Press Key (arrow down)

 

You can also find a VR mod that lets you use voice commands during conversations and shouts. 

Didn't think of that. But it's not gonna work for me. I usually play till 2 AM and I don't wanna wake anyone up. But I might consider it some day.

[DeepBlueFrog]

3 minutes ago, dedise said:

I'm sorry if this has been answered before just haven't found it myself and there's a lot of pages to click through but how do you get the kneel and crawl animations to work? I hit the keys to do them and I get a notification that I am but my character just continues to stand.

 

Some people have reported they only work for them after the first enslavement by SD+

 

I have never been able to reproduce that issue but you can try that.

[DeepBlueFrog]

22 minutes ago, dedise said:

Sadly I have been and it still doesn't work :/. Been enslaved through starting the sangunie quest line and through daymol. Only way I haven't tried is through willingly submiting so maybe i'll try that and see if that fixes it for whatever reason. 

 

Did you run FNIS for users?

[Spectre5342]

I seem kind of stuck in the enslavement dream sequence called The Truth. One of my objectives is to talk to Sanguine about Alicias but he himself has no such dialogue options. Its like one of the quest stages failed to activate correctly so now I'm trapped in limbo.

[ShalaxiHelbane]

A couple of queries regarding this. I tried this a couple of months ago, admittedly it was the SE port not the mainline, but had some issues and I'm not sure if I missed something or if I encountered legitimate bugs/limitations, or if it was a settings cockup on my end or a port issue.

I managed to kill my master and escape but it didn't seem to remove me from the factions it added. Is there a specific trigger for that? As it was I basically walked out of the bandit fort ,the one with the bounty hunters take you to with the associated wife quest, without any resistance. I waited a couple of days then came back to check if it had cleared the faction but they were still all friendly.

Is there a way to get enslavement to be chance based via death alternative? From my understanding that takes a first come first serve approach to the possible scenarios. I think as it stands it may be possible going the route of "SL Defeat -> Simple Slavery -> SD+"

This isn't meant to sound like complaining, I like the idea of the mod and want to get it working properly but with the steps involved it seems pertinent to check before diving back in to another attempt.

[Juan_Carlos9]

Got a bug. Not sure that its caused by SD+ but I'm just wanting to clear my suspicions. (I'm on SE, and all my mods are for SE)

 

Bug description: Whenever I take off any armor, put on any armor, or do anything with my armor / clothes, my characters skin turns super glossy. Its only the body skin, the feet, hands (except for in first person), and head are all fine. I can fix this by quick saving / quick loading, but this has gotten annoying. No, it is not a mod doing its job. No, I did not select a glossy option. Yes, it is a bug. No, I'm not a modder. Hotel, Trivago.

 

What I think is happening: My research has led me to believe that this is a problem between skse64 and racemenu. This bug essentially infects a save / present, and the only way to fix it is to start a new game, make sure it isn't corrupted, and use the skse co-save from that save to replace that of the broken one (or just start a new playthrough all together); concerning presents, this can be "fixed" by removing anything in the jslot calling to "skinoverrides". I say "fixed" in quotes b/c it can be a 50/50 chance of any fix working for you. I've literally left my game in a fixed state only to find it broken the next day.

 

Why I am here:

I started a new game, made sure that the bug wasn't present, loaded an old present that was fixed, and went about my business testing my mods. I wanted to test THIS mod, so I went to a bandit camp, and started the whole slave thing. Once my equipment was removed, my skin went kaput. THIS leads me to believe that the initial problem between skse64 and racemenu is but a symptom of another conflict of sorts. I AM PUTTING THIS HERE, because the only mods that I believe could have been responsible are Sexlab Framework (which would make sense), Defeat (which I doubt), and SD+. 

 

Let me clarify, that I'm not 100% sure that SD+ is causing this issue; for all I know it could have nothing to do with this mod. All I know is that I had my game fixed until this and Sexlab triggered. Like I said, I'm just trying to cover my bases. Thanks in advance to any help!

 

Quick edit: I'm not trying to trash talk this mod, in fact I really love it and I have a bunch of ideas for how I want to use it! I'm just frustrated with this bug, especially considering how the internet hasn't helped me a bunch lol **thanks google!**

[Nymra]

4 minutes ago, Juan_Carlos9 said:

Got a bug. Not sure that its caused by SD+ but I'm just wanting to clear my suspicions. (I'm on SE, and all my mods are for SE)

 

Bug description: Whenever I take off any armor, put on any armor, or do anything with my armor / clothes, my characters skin turns super glossy. Its only the body skin, the feet, hands (except for in first person), and head are all fine. I can fix this by quick saving / quick loading, but this has gotten annoying. No, it is not a mod doing its job. No, I did not select a glossy option. Yes, it is a bug. No, I'm not a modder. Hotel, Trivago.

 

What I think is happening: My research has led me to believe that this is a problem between skse64 and racemenu. This bug essentially infects a save / present, and the only way to fix it is to start a new game, make sure it isn't corrupted, and use the skse co-save from that save to replace that of the broken one (or just start a new playthrough all together); concerning presents, this can be "fixed" by removing anything in the jslot calling to "skinoverrides". I say "fixed" in quotes b/c it can be a 50/50 chance of any fix working for you. I've literally left my game in a fixed state only to find it broken the next day.

 

Why I am here:

I started a new game, made sure that the bug wasn't present, loaded an old present that was fixed, and went about my business testing my mods. I wanted to test THIS mod, so I went to a bandit camp, and started the whole slave thing. Once my equipment was removed, my skin went kaput. THIS leads me to believe that the initial problem between skse64 and racemenu is but a symptom of another conflict of sorts. I AM PUTTING THIS HERE, because the only mods that I believe could have been responsible are Sexlab Framework (which would make sense), Defeat (which I doubt), and SD+. 

 

Let me clarify, that I'm not 100% sure that SD+ is causing this issue; for all I know it could have nothing to do with this mod. All I know is that I had my game fixed until this and Sexlab triggered. Like I said, I'm just trying to cover my bases. Thanks in advance to any help!

 

 

could you provide a screenshot please? I m curious how that "glossy" looks like. 

[Juan_Carlos9]

7 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

 

could you provide a screenshot please? I m curious how that "glossy" looks like. 

Sure thing. These are some older pics I took of the issue, which I had to scale down to put over on the Nexus forums. If anything I can post more later today. The pic is in the spoiler.

 

Spoiler

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Strange... SD+ does have some skin effects like whipping marks or tattoos, but only during enslavement. 

I have never seen it do anything this pronounced.

 

the mod shouldn't do anything to your character at rest (outside enslavement).

[Juan_Carlos9]

48 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

Strange... SD+ does have some skin effects like whipping marks or tattoos, but only during enslavement. 

I have never seen it do anything this pronounced.

 

the mod shouldn't do anything to your character at rest (outside enslavement).

I don't know for sure that SD+ is doing this, so that could be why you've never heard of this.

 

I just know that the bug re-appeared once I started a scene with SD+

[DeepBlueFrog]

6 minutes ago, Juan_Carlos9 said:

I don't know for sure that SD+ is doing this, so that could be why you've never heard of this.

 

I just know that the bug re-appeared once I started a scene with SD+

 

Any scene in particular?