Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[shinji72]

Its been awhile since I tried SD+ but is the player supposed go above level 3? I played over 4 day in gametime but lvl doesn't go above 3

 

You totally should be able to go up to level 6. You can check that by going in the Mcm menu and set a minimum slave level of 4, 5 or 6.

[Iyeru]

Whenever I turn off Bandit Enslavement and SD Enslavement and get blacked out, the game will instantly crash when the blackout event triggers. I would post the log, but I'm not allowed to post links. (This also means I cannot use smilies) I'll attempt to upload it however.

 

Using latest files for Live Another Life and DD, etc.

 

Using latest CBBE (Not BBP nor HDT Bodies) is causing hands to not render on certain occasions, and hands showing even though the arm locker is on the model (IE: When moving in certain ways, IE: crouched.) I recently installed HDT, but since I am using CBBE (And not bodyslide, just default) HDT won't a/effect the models. (Also using XP32 and have used FNIS and FNIS SexyMoves, and used the tool to update everything via FNIS.)

 

Also when dying to wolves (and dying a second time to the people who come for me) will put me into a non-controllable state and always have me crouched over in essential death mode, forcing me to reload the save.

 

Game also crashes when it attempts to do bleedout damage to me from thalmor, so something in SD is causing everything that isn't SD to not work properly.

Papyrus.0.log

Edited October 15, 2015 by Iyeru

[Dude_5]

I think I may have encountered a bug when I use the built in surrender function nothing happens now it just keeps saying "you surrender to your aggressor" on screen loads of times and that's it 

 

I have the same issue, does anyone know how to solve this issue? 

[JustJustin]

Hello,

I have a problem using sd + .  when my caracter is enslaved, there is ctd issue in animation. I check many times and i have all the recquirements. i don't have any patches.

But when there is an animation , game crash. i don't know why. Can you help me ?

 

I had the same problem, registered Zaz with SD+ and it seemed to be working, probably due to having recently updated Sexlab and needing to re-register. It pseudo-worked, I didn't crash but the animation didn't play, only noises for a second and naked, then back to normal. Not entirely sure what happened, and now it's back to crashing. Any ideas?

[Oriloceech]

So, with the latest update, (Love it, by the way), whenever I outrange my owner, I get pretty much endless spam saying something to the effect of, "Escape attempt - 20 seconds remaining," and "Escape attempt - end." And it just keeps repeating those lines until I get back in range and seemingly open a menu or start a sex scene. It doesn't actually appear to count down from 20 seconds.

 

Here's my papyrus log and load order. Rar'd to save a bit of space. The pun works on multiple levels, I think.

Log and Order Special Victims Unit.rar

[DeepBlueFrog]

So, with the latest update, (Love it, by the way), whenever I outrange my owner, I get pretty much endless spam saying something to the effect of, "Escape attempt - 20 seconds remaining," and "Escape attempt - end." And it just keeps repeating those lines until I get back in range and seemingly open a menu or start a sex scene. It doesn't actually appear to count down from 20 seconds.

 

Here's my papyrus log and load order. Rar'd to save a bit of space. The pun works on multiple levels, I think.

 

This is another test message for the improved leash system.

I will remove it eventually.

 

The interrupted countdown means that your master started following you again as you left out of range and is either within line of sight or close enough to turn off the escape alarm.

 

If you see this message turn on and you don't get shocked or teleported after more than 20 seconds, that could be a bug.

[Lenore]

Just wanted to pop in and say that I love the changes you've made and thank you for adding the ability to earn freedom without joining factions.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Just wanted to pop in and say that I love the changes you've made and thank you for adding the ability to earn freedom without joining factions.

 

Thanks.. eventually, I hope to redo the faction system altogether but in the meantime, this option should help.

[lacr]

At some point Sanguine makes all enemies non-hostile towards player, is any way to avoid this situation?

[CliftonJD]

Whenever I turn off Bandit Enslavement and SD Enslavement and get blacked out, the game will instantly crash when the blackout event triggers. I would post the log, but I'm not allowed to post links. (This also means I cannot use smilies) I'll attempt to upload it however.

 

Using latest files for Live Another Life and DD, etc.

 

Using latest CBBE (Not BBP nor HDT Bodies) is causing hands to not render on certain occasions, and hands showing even though the arm locker is on the model (IE: When moving in certain ways, IE: crouched.) I recently installed HDT, but since I am using CBBE (And not bodyslide, just default) HDT won't a/effect the models. (Also using XP32 and have used FNIS and FNIS SexyMoves, and used the tool to update everything via FNIS.)

 

Also when dying to wolves (and dying a second time to the people who come for me) will put me into a non-controllable state and always have me crouched over in essential death mode, forcing me to reload the save.

 

Game also crashes when it attempts to do bleedout damage to me from thalmor, so something in SD is causing everything that isn't SD to not work properly.

you disabled sd and bandits so the next mod to trigger was submit, apparently you found a version of sl submit that uses a da trigger - that's your crash according to the log:

 

 

 

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1100

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp0"

stack:

[sexLabQuestFramework (0A000D62)].sslthreadslots.PickModel() - "sslThreadSlots.psc" Line 16

[sexLabQuestFramework (0A000D62)].sexlabframework.NewThread() - "SexLabFramework.psc" Line 55

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1100

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] Error: Cannot call AddActor() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1101

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp193"

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1101

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] Error: Cannot call AddActor() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1102

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp193"

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1102

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] Error: Cannot call DisableLeadIn() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1103

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] Error: Cannot call DisableRagdollEnd() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1104

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] Error: Cannot call DisableUndressAnimation() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1105

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] Error: Cannot call DisableRedress() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1106

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] SEXLAB - GetByType(ActorCount=2, Males=-1, Females=-1, StageCount=-1, Aggressive=TRUE)

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] SEXLAB - No Animations Found

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] Error: Cannot call SetAnimations() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1108

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] Error: Cannot call SetHook() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1110

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

[10/15/2015 - 08:24:13AM] Error: Cannot call StartThread() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SLSubmit (29001826)]._slsubmitscene.PlayerSex() - "_slsubmitscene.psc" Line 1111

[_SLSubmitDA (2907C2B4)]._slsubmitdaintegration.OnUpdate() - "_slsubmitdaintegration.psc" Line 63

 

 

not related to sd, that's an issue with submit and by the looks of it, possible issue with sl 1.6 for that mod

 

Hello,

I have a problem using sd + .  when my caracter is enslaved, there is ctd issue in animation. I check many times and i have all the recquirements. i don't have any patches.

But when there is an animation , game crash. i don't know why. Can you help me ?

 

I had the same problem, registered Zaz with SD+ and it seemed to be working, probably due to having recently updated Sexlab and needing to re-register. It pseudo-worked, I didn't crash but the animation didn't play, only noises for a second and naked, then back to normal. Not entirely sure what happened, and now it's back to crashing. Any ideas?

 

as I mentioned with anybody else posting such errors, I NEED to see some logs 

last person I remember replying to about crashes from animation was atleast specific enough to mention it was during a 3-way it'd crash, dd wasn't built for that and special configuration options had to be made

 

At some point Sanguine makes all enemies non-hostile towards player, is any way to avoid this situation?

do you know that sanguine has done this, it sounds more likely than "death alternative" has "calmed your enemies" for a certain number of hours that are totally configurable in the mcm for that mod, even has a button for "resetting the player state"

[joemonco]

If you could do this without Death Alternative I'd buy you a six pack of good beer.

[Guest vladimire159]

Ever since I joined my masters cause nearly no one will attack me, not falmer, not drauger, not animals. If i use the player.removefromallfactions command it fixes the issue, but basically ruins the game since i lose so much.

 

Does anyone know how I can make enemies attack me again?

[DeepBlueFrog]

If you could do this without Death Alternative I'd buy you a six pack of good beer.

 

I said it a couple of pages back and I will repeat it here... there is unfortunately no going back from Death Alternative at this point.

I don't have the time or the stamina to create a new death alternative framework from scratch that will work well within SD+ and that would not break many other death oriented mods like Submit, Defeat or Simple Slavery just to name a few.

 

Ever since I joined my masters cause nearly no one will attack me, not falmer, not drauger, not animals. If i use the player.removefromallfactions command it fixes the issue, but basically ruins the game since i lose so much.

 

Does anyone know how I can make enemies attack me again?

 

I added an option to be freed without joining factions just to avoid this kind of issues.

 

I am afraid the only option is to load a saved game before you chose to join your master and use that option instead.

[joemonco]

 

If you could do this without Death Alternative I'd buy you a six pack of good beer.

 

I said it a couple of pages back and I will repeat it here... there is unfortunately no going back from Death Alternative at this point.

I don't have the time or the stamina to create a new death alternative framework from scratch that will work well within SD+ and that would not break many other death oriented mods like Submit, Defeat or Simple Slavery just to name a few.

 

 

It was worth a shot.

[izumonoryu]

Is there any follower handling beyond tying them up and making them follow me when enslaved?

[Brommer]

Somehow, when I get enslaved I always start at the maximum level (level 6, 120 exposure), even if it's the first SD+ enslavement ever for this character. The first time this happened was with Sexlab Hormones, being a Bimbo at the time. Could this be the reason?

[RockMic]

Hello, what is it exactly CT77_SD + _Slave_Outfit_ (bodyslide)
I can not find the descrizzione.

[Masachan]

sorry to answer late (work)

I crash when i play.. after all no need animation to crash... :'(

 

I will post load order and logs

hope it can help me :/

 

Anyway thank you for your answer.

posting loader order soon.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Somehow, when I get enslaved I always start at the maximum level (level 6, 120 exposure), even if it's the first SD+ enslavement ever for this character. The first time this happened was with Sexlab Hormones, being a Bimbo at the time. Could this be the reason?

 

Yes it is.

 

Bimbos are locked at slavery level 6 because that's all they can think about.

 

Hello, what is it exactly CT77_SD + _Slave_Outfit_ (bodyslide)

I can not find the descrizzione.

 

It is a version of the custom slave outfit (prisoner rags) for another body type.

Someone made it especially for SD+ so I added it to the downloads.

[Brommer]

 

Somehow, when I get enslaved I always start at the maximum level (level 6, 120 exposure), even if it's the first SD+ enslavement ever for this character. The first time this happened was with Sexlab Hormones, being a Bimbo at the time. Could this be the reason?

 

Yes it is.

 

Bimbos are locked at slavery level 6 because that's all they can think about.

Well, it persists even after being cured (just like the arousal rate locked at 10), and even after deinstalling hormones. But I managed to fix it, after De-/reinstalling SD+, it was still at level 6, but at least is now decaying normally.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Somehow, when I get enslaved I always start at the maximum level (level 6, 120 exposure), even if it's the first SD+ enslavement ever for this character. The first time this happened was with Sexlab Hormones, being a Bimbo at the time. Could this be the reason?

 

Yes it is.

 

Bimbos are locked at slavery level 6 because that's all they can think about.

Well, it persists even after being cured (just like the arousal rate locked at 10), and even after deinstalling hormones. But I managed to fix it, after De-/reinstalling SD+, it was still at level 6, but at least is now decaying normally.

 

 

Thanks.

 

I will add it as a bug to look into (the non decaying part after the cure).

[CliftonJD]

sorry to answer late (work)

I crash when i play.. after all no need animation to crash... :'(

 

I will post load order and logs

hope it can help me :/

 

Anyway thank you for your answer.

posting loader order soon.

fix those mods from your last post then clean your save with a save cleaner from nexus

if you still have problems after that post the updated log

[lacr]

 

lacr, on 17 Oct 2015 - 12:46 AM, said:

At some point Sanguine makes all enemies non-hostile towards player, is any way to avoid this situation?

do you know that sanguine has done this, it sounds more likely than "death alternative" has "calmed your enemies" for a certain number of hours that are totally configurable in the mcm for that mod, even has a button for "resetting the player state"

 

 

Thank you, there are too many options in DA and some complex mechanics, it seems that i have really missed it out. Thought it was a Sanguine's joke, cause i have been wondering what his reddish restraints do.

[Nazzzgul666]

I've just started a new game after re-installing skyrim and have small problems while and a big problem after i'm enslaved, not sure if they are connected.

Small problems: i get defeated (by defeat) fucked, and blackout. when i awake, the bandit (from the camp west of whiterun, but i've tried others as well) starts to fight and fuck me again, then the message about new owner appears, then that i'm enslaved. Actually i have to admit that i'm not sure that this is not the way it's meant to be, but i think i was enslaved without beeing hit again after blackout.

 

If that matters, i have the SDPlusAddon, but there is only an .esp for Frostfall which i don't use, but no esps for Dawnguard and Dragonborn.

The big problem: i can't talk to my owner. Not at all, after enslavement, i press "e" and hear the vanilla klick noise when there's no option to talk.

I have no idea if it's a problem with my load order, wrong installation (tried several orders with MO, re-install as well), wrong configuration, conflict with other mods, or even missing dependencies, i've checked them twice though.

I have Fuz do roh, Dialogues, Defeat, Death or alive and their dependencies. If anyone has a clue where to search for my problem, it would help, maybe even somebody knows what's wrong.

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I've just started a new game after re-installing skyrim and have small problems while and a big problem after i'm enslaved, not sure if they are connected.

Small problems: i get defeated (by defeat) fucked, and blackout. when i awake, the bandit (from the camp west of whiterun, but i've tried others as well) starts to fight and fuck me again, then the message about new owner appears, then that i'm enslaved. Actually i have to admit that i'm not sure that this is not the way it's meant to be, but i think i was enslaved without beeing hit again after blackout.

 

If that matters, i have the SDPlusAddon, but there is only an .esp for Frostfall which i don't use, but no esps for Dawnguard and Dragonborn.

The big problem: i can't talk to my owner. Not at all, after enslavement, i press "e" and hear the vanilla klick noise when there's no option to talk.

I have no idea if it's a problem with my load order, wrong installation (tried several orders with MO, re-install as well), wrong configuration, conflict with other mods, or even missing dependencies, i've checked them twice though.

I have Fuz do roh, Dialogues, Defeat, Death or alive and their dependencies. If anyone has a clue where to search for my problem, it would help, maybe even somebody knows what's wrong.

 

The small problem looks like the mod is working.. sometimes events take a while to trigger, which means you can still get attacked by your owner after being enslaved.

 

Not being able to talk to your owner usually means your owner is still involved in a scene.

You have to wait it out... press T and wait for a few hours. That should clear things up.

 

Remove SDPlusAddon if you are not using Frostfall. That will cause more problems later on if you leave it on.