Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Tehguymon]

 

Hello there, I have a small problem with the spriggan quest. I have almost reached the end of the quest, just found the grove. When I intered the grove, the husk was flying above me in the air, and was empty. I then lost my spriggan body and face armour, and my char started masturbating. After that, nothing else happens, no spriggan did appear for me at all. I also have my hand and feet spriggan armor still attached to me, and when i want to unequip it, I get an option to touch it, which then ends up with the armor staying.

 

My question is, how does this spriggan quest end properly, or what should i do?

 

PS: Also I found a dead spriggan matron next to the husk

 

It all looks normal except for the empty husk... it should contain what you were carrying when you were infected.

 

The husk is up in the air because it is using a map marker that is often up in the air as well. I haven't found a good alternative yet.

 

The hands and feet are leftovers from the infection. They should vanish after a while (sleep for a few hours or a full day if you can, to wait it off).

 

Thanks for the quick response! After a while of sleeping and waiting, the Spriggan quest did end (although is still seen in my journal with "The spriggans released you"). But here is the problem :

 

My spriggan feet got removed as they were supposed to, but my gauntlets are still on me, and I cannot see them anywhere in my inventory. I think this may be a bug, as there seems to be no way of removing them. I did wait for more than an In-game week to find out if they get removed as the feet did, but considering you wrote me to wait aprox. a day, it seems that this was not supposed to happen.

[Plattonterror]

 

guys i have all patches (frostffall (idk if it is hearthfire),dragonborn and dawnguard but i crash in bethesda logo can anyone help?

 

You're missing a master. Run TES5Edit and it'll tell you what you're missing. Also a load order/papyrus log would help. Did you make sure you had all of SD+ requirement mods?

 

 

thanks i was missing something i didnt see (yay me) anyways this is an awesome mod just amazing

[Guest]

Hey there. I'm having a small problem where my character doesn't receive any shackles or devices once enslaved. This occurrence comes and goes and I'm not sure what's causing it. I'm currently testing the mod on a fresh character, and SD+ is near the bottom of my load order. Any input would be great.

[Golgo13]

I didn't know that I was supposed to send a PM in addition to the public message that I already sent.  I was waiting for a PM or something with a link.

 

* But, don't think that I'm trying to get in after you closed the door-- I just wanted you to know that I'd been willing to help (in my incompetent manner).

[Foroshilov]

I have a problem. When i started the game its crashes on the loading screen without any report. I have all requiered mods, SKSE and SkyUI . I disable all mods (excpet requirerd) but it dont helped.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I have a problem. When i started the game its crashes on the loading screen without any report. I have all requiered mods, SKSE and SkyUI . I disable all mods (excpet requirerd) but it dont helped.

 

The usual reason for a crash on startup is that you are still missing a required master file.

 

Install and run TES5edit. It will tell you right away what you are missing.

[CliftonJD]

 

 

after a couple of monts not updating my mods, I just sat through it and updated all of them.

 

After everythings said and done, one issue is left:

SD is no longer compatible with (one? some? all of?) my mods...

Whenever I activate the mod, the game will crash on start.

 

any way to find out what the problem is?

 

 

EDIT:

 

Seems Devious Devices is the problem, since the game also crashes w/o SD if DD is installed...

when dd updated, the pre-requisites updated, that means dd integration updates and dd assets

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, I finally tested this mod today, and I'm very pleased with all the things it does. Very great work!

 

But now, after some more testing, I seem to be unable to get enslaved. I didn't change any of the settings from my previous tests, where enslavement worked. Now, when I get knocked over by, let's say, bandits, as soon as I wake up, they're starting to attack me again, and eventually kill me. The enslavement event isn't triggering. Any ideas what I can do? D:

 

Sounds like a DA issue, check your settings, here are mine as a starting point.

 

 

 

 

Hm, I tweaked my settings around a bit, but it doesn't really change that much. Just now I did a test run with a non hostile NPC. He hit me, I went down, he hit me again, I blacked out, everything fine so far. But when I wake up, nothing happens. My captor behaves normal, and I am able to do everything I want.

But somehow, the enslavement event suddenly kicks in if I wait like 10 minutes or so. Sometimes it *seems* to get activated earlier by hitting ESC or talking to other actors, but I wasn't able to reproduce these results. The only method for me to get enslaved is to just stand there for ages and wait. Any Idea what might cause this delay? I don't think it's supposed to be like that.

 

 

Sounds like you've got some serious script delay. Depending on what I run I can have upwards of a minute or two delay in certain scripts. Are you running a lot of high script time mods?

 

 

Well... yes

I run somewhat 150+ mods, and some of them might be quite script heavy. I've been afraid that this was the cause, I realy don't want to relinquish any of the mods

 

 

depending on your pc, that might be ok to play with on a new game/ clean save

number of mods isn't the only cause for script delay, too many papyrus bugs is more common and more serious cause for it

 

 

Thank you very much, I guess I'm gonna have to try that.

 

Or do you by chance know any console comand that kinda forces the script to run immediately? That would at least allow me to struggle through slavery with my main character once. Having to use the console isn't very immersive, but neither is getting killed because the bad guys won't take advantage of you.

 

if you're looking for a way to start slavery on game start use alternate start from nexus with immerslave from LL

if you do get this working there's something between sd+ and immerslave that causes bugs in dd scripts (something to do with the rewards system attempting to release the devices)

-before attempting to remove Any locked dd items you will need to reset the scripts from a barrel (put all dd items into the barrel and locked items return to the character), with that in mind be prepared with a restraints key or the dd_restrained mod or captured dreams, -  next you'll be gagged again

 

Hey there. I'm having a small problem where my character doesn't receive any shackles or devices once enslaved. This occurrence comes and goes and I'm not sure what's causing it. I'm currently testing the mod on a fresh character, and SD+ is near the bottom of my load order. Any input would be great.

you might need to check papyrus logs for any issues with Devious devices

when you do recieve the shackles are they locked or can they be placed in a barrel and left there

[magicrealm]

Hello sky2,

actually i try to get some mod authors to build in skooma in their mods to spread it around for use with skooma whore. skooma whoore changes the Standard skooma, so every mod who uses it and is loaded before skooma whore will get the effect.

i think Sanguine appeals to that. drug a sexslave seems normal in that business. you could use it against the slaves will during enslavement as well as a gift from sanguine in dreamworld.

this might be Standard in SD or an additional patch. what do you think ?

 

edit :  i would like to see skooma in these mods : sanguines debouchery, captured dreams, animal mansion and mias lair. the author of skooma whore gauffel seems to be absent and is not working for any updates since quite a time. he is not necessary to simply add skooma as reward and punishment in other mods. the only Problem might be animal mansion, because this author is absent too.

if i would know how to do it i would do it by myself. for you it is a matter of five minutes, i guess.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hello sky2,

actually i try to get some mod authors to build in skooma in their mods to spread it around for use with skooma whore. skooma whoore changes the Standard skooma, so every mod who uses it and is loaded before skooma whore will get the effect.

i think Sanguine appeals to that. drug a sexslave seems normal in that business. you could use it against the slaves will during enslavement as well as a gift from sanguine in dreamworld.

this might be Standard in SD or an additional patch. what do you think ?

 

edit : i would like to see skooma in these mods : sanguines debouchery, captured dreams, animal mansion and mias lair. the author of skooma whore gauffel seems to be absent and is not working for any updates since quite a time. he is not necessary to simply add skooma as reward and punishment in other mods. the only Problem might be animal mansion, because this author is absent too.

if i would know how to do it i would do it by myself. for you it is a matter of five minutes, i guess.

Force feeding skooma is in SD by default.

 

The main issue I have is that the force feeding part doesn't always work.

[Golgo13]

I've been working to get my game ready for this upcoming release of the new version of this mod.  This may not strictly be a SD+-type question, but, you folks may know the answer, and this is the only place on this site where I hang around enough to feel comfortable asking such a stupid question.  And, at least, I'm only encountering the issue because of my devotion to this mod. 

 

I'm trying to install the CBBE-BBP-type body in time to play an human for the next play-through.  I'm accustomed to the UNPB-BBP body, which, IMO looks the best and looks very natural until the weight starts getting on the heavy side, at which point the fact that the waist dimension never changes causes the body to look (again, IMO) weirder and weirder.  UNPB-BBP really needs its own version of that Bodyslide and Studio program-- or, at least, just have the waist scale a little with everything else.  (I know that someone made a conversion of Bodyslide for UNP in 2012; but, I couldn't see any work done on it after that.)

 

Anyway, when I created a CBBE-BBP body, the breasts came out looking angular on the underside, no matter what I did.  They looked fine in the Bodyslide, but, in game, they had completely flat areas where, IRL, there would naturally be a curve.  The larger the breasts, the worse they looked. 

 

I may be talking about an issue everyone already knows about and accepts; or, I may be encountering my own, special problem.  I can't tell without asking.

 

I'm including a screenshot of what I'm talking about, with the problem minimized as much as I could manage; i.e., I had the "small breast" setting on maximum and all of the other breast settings at zero.  This was for my "heavy" body; I actually wanted the breasts to be larger than that-- more like the size they are with UNPB.  I believe that the absolute maximum breast size in the entire game should be be larger than that.  But, as I said, as soon as I added input from the regular "breast" slider, the breasts began looking even worse.  Am I doing anything fundamentally wrong, or, is there some "trick" to getting the breasts to look more naturally rounded?

 

[Siudhne]

So, when I enter the dream realm, I'm unable to move or open the tab-menu (maps, items etc.). Nothing happens. Did I miss something obvious or do you need a logfile?

[DeepBlueFrog]

I've been working to get my game ready for this upcoming release of the new version of this mod.  This may not strictly be a SD+-type question, but, you folks may know the answer, and this is the only place on this site where I hang around enough to feel comfortable asking such a stupid question.  And, at least, I'm only encountering the issue because of my devotion to this mod. 

 

I'm trying to install the CBBE-BBP-type body in time to play an human for the next play-through.  I'm accustomed to the UNPB-BBP body, which, IMO looks the best and looks very natural until the weight starts getting on the heavy side, at which point the fact that the waist dimension never changes causes the body to look (again, IMO) weirder and weirder.  UNPB-BBP really needs its own version of that Bodyslide and Studio program-- or, at least, just have the waist scale a little with everything else.  (I know that someone made a conversion of Bodyslide for UNP in 2012; but, I couldn't see any work done on it after that.)

 

Anyway, when I created a CBBE-BBP body, the breasts came out looking angular on the underside, no matter what I did.  They looked fine in the Bodyslide, but, in game, they had completely flat areas where, IRL, there would naturally be a curve.  The larger the breasts, the worse they looked. 

 

I may be talking about an issue everyone already knows about and accepts; or, I may be encountering my own, special problem.  I can't tell without asking.

 

I'm including a screenshot of what I'm talking about, with the problem minimized as much as I could manage; i.e., I had the "small breast" setting on maximum and all of the other breast settings at zero.  This was for my "heavy" body; I actually wanted the breasts to be larger than that-- more like the size they are with UNPB.  I believe that the absolute maximum breast size in the entire game should be be larger than that.  But, as I said, as soon as I added input from the regular "breast" slider, the breasts began looking even worse.  Am I doing anything fundamentally wrong, or, is there some "trick" to getting the breasts to look more naturally rounded?

 

Crummy_Breast.jpg

 

I tried to reduce some of these issues with CBBE settings for a body with better range between skinny and heavy.

You can check it out here:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/blog/60/entry-533-hormones-body-shape/

 

It is not to everybody's liking but I find it provides a nice range of options.

[DeepBlueFrog]

So, when I enter the dream realm, I'm unable to move or open the tab-menu (maps, items etc.). Nothing happens. Did I miss something obvious or do you need a logfile?

 

It happens sometimes - not sure why yet.

 

When it happens, open the surrender menu and select 'Resist'. This will trigger some commands to get you unstuck.

[Storms of Superior]

So, when I enter the dream realm, I'm unable to move or open the tab-menu (maps, items etc.). Nothing happens. Did I miss something obvious or do you need a logfile?

 

Hit escape and wait a while; the scripts that are applying restrainsts are at work during this time. You can't open your tab menu, because your arms are in the process of being restrained.

[Siudhne]

Pressing escape and waiting had no effect.

 

Starting the area new with no devious devices equipped resulted in no problem. Using the surrender menu breaks the bound-behind-back animation, but otherwise works, too.

 

Thanks for the quick response!

[Foroshilov]

I cant get enslved. When i lose in combat, my character just lay down like immortal characters do, and stay in this position.

[magicrealm]

 

Hello sky2,

actually i try to get some mod authors to build in skooma in their mods to spread it around for use with skooma whore. skooma whoore changes the Standard skooma, so every mod who uses it and is loaded before skooma whore will get the effect.

i think Sanguine appeals to that. drug a sexslave seems normal in that business. you could use it against the slaves will during enslavement as well as a gift from sanguine in dreamworld.

this might be Standard in SD or an additional patch. what do you think ?

 

edit : i would like to see skooma in these mods : sanguines debouchery, captured dreams, animal mansion and mias lair. the author of skooma whore gauffel seems to be absent and is not working for any updates since quite a time. he is not necessary to simply add skooma as reward and punishment in other mods. the only Problem might be animal mansion, because this author is absent too.

if i would know how to do it i would do it by myself. for you it is a matter of five minutes, i guess.

Force feeding skooma is in SD by default.

 

The main issue I have is that the force feeding part doesn't always work.

 

i can remember that force to swallow. i didnt knew trhat this is skooma. the question is, if this is exactly the same as drinking a bottle of skooma to make the effect from guffels mod happen.

can you tell me where in ck i have to look for this ?

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Hello sky2,

actually i try to get some mod authors to build in skooma in their mods to spread it around for use with skooma whore. skooma whoore changes the Standard skooma, so every mod who uses it and is loaded before skooma whore will get the effect.

i think Sanguine appeals to that. drug a sexslave seems normal in that business. you could use it against the slaves will during enslavement as well as a gift from sanguine in dreamworld.

this might be Standard in SD or an additional patch. what do you think ?

 

edit : i would like to see skooma in these mods : sanguines debouchery, captured dreams, animal mansion and mias lair. the author of skooma whore gauffel seems to be absent and is not working for any updates since quite a time. he is not necessary to simply add skooma as reward and punishment in other mods. the only Problem might be animal mansion, because this author is absent too.

if i would know how to do it i would do it by myself. for you it is a matter of five minutes, i guess.

Force feeding skooma is in SD by default.

 

The main issue I have is that the force feeding part doesn't always work.

 

i can remember that force to swallow. i didnt knew trhat this is skooma. the question is, if this is exactly the same as drinking a bottle of skooma to make the effect from guffels mod happen.

can you tell me where in ck i have to look for this ?

 

 

Here is a list of scripts using 'skooma' from the github repository:

 

https://github.com/MinLL/SDPlus/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=skooma

 

Don't get too attached to those scripts though - I am changing that part a lot in the next version.

[CliftonJD]

I cant get enslved. When i lose in combat, my character just lay down like immortal characters do, and stay in this position.

check your daymoyl settings

typically 10-15% bleedout is good, based on your level

[AMagicalCat]

Every single time i get to blackout state my thing freezes, i cant do anything, but i still hear sound, it happens everytime i try to get enslaved ive tried quite a bit of things, removing ragdoll in DA, updating EVERYTHING making new characters, and it just hates me, anyone have any insight on this that might help?

[BushJr]

So, when I enter the dream realm, I'm unable to move or open the tab-menu (maps, items etc.). Nothing happens. Did I miss something obvious or do you need a logfile?

 

 

 

Hit escape and wait a while; the scripts that are applying restrainsts are at work during this time. You can't open your tab menu, because your arms are in the process of being restrained.

 

 

 

 

It happens sometimes - not sure why yet.

 

When it happens, open the surrender menu and select 'Resist'. This will trigger some commands to get you unstuck.

 

 

Oh, it happens to me too when I got several restrains already and when I'm sure that this is not the script-lag I just hit EPC..   Will it couse some troubles to me in the future?

[Golgo13]

 

I've been working to get my game ready for this upcoming release of the new version of this mod.  This may not strictly be a SD+-type question, but, you folks may know the answer, and this is the only place on this site where I hang around enough to feel comfortable asking such a stupid question.  And, at least, I'm only encountering the issue because of my devotion to this mod. 

 

I'm trying to install the CBBE-BBP-type body in time to play an human for the next play-through.  I'm accustomed to the UNPB-BBP body, which, IMO looks the best and looks very natural until the weight starts getting on the heavy side, at which point the fact that the waist dimension never changes causes the body to look (again, IMO) weirder and weirder.  UNPB-BBP really needs its own version of that Bodyslide and Studio program-- or, at least, just have the waist scale a little with everything else.  (I know that someone made a conversion of Bodyslide for UNP in 2012; but, I couldn't see any work done on it after that.)

 

Anyway, when I created a CBBE-BBP body, the breasts came out looking angular on the underside, no matter what I did.  They looked fine in the Bodyslide, but, in game, they had completely flat areas where, IRL, there would naturally be a curve.  The larger the breasts, the worse they looked. 

 

I may be talking about an issue everyone already knows about and accepts; or, I may be encountering my own, special problem.  I can't tell without asking.

 

I'm including a screenshot of what I'm talking about, with the problem minimized as much as I could manage; i.e., I had the "small breast" setting on maximum and all of the other breast settings at zero.  This was for my "heavy" body; I actually wanted the breasts to be larger than that-- more like the size they are with UNPB.  I believe that the absolute maximum breast size in the entire game should be be larger than that.  But, as I said, as soon as I added input from the regular "breast" slider, the breasts began looking even worse.  Am I doing anything fundamentally wrong, or, is there some "trick" to getting the breasts to look more naturally rounded?

 

Crummy_Breast.jpg

 

I tried to reduce some of these issues with CBBE settings for a body with better range between skinny and heavy.

You can check it out here:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/blog/60/entry-533-hormones-body-shape/

 

It is not to everybody's liking but I find it provides a nice range of options.

 

 

Thanks a LOT for the reply!

 

You're undoubtedly familiar with what a doofus I am when it comes to understanding how all of this stuff works.  The person who tutored me on LOOT, TES5Edit and WryeBash actually warned me away from HDT a while back, telling me that even he had difficulty getting it all to work properly; and, knowing me, I'd go crazy trying to get it to work before it ever did.  But, if it's going to take at least two weeks for the mod to be ready, I have time, at least, to try to get it to work.  And, I HATE how CHSBHC animates the breasts like balloons bobbing in a draft.  If HDT does a better job (and it would pretty much HAVE to), I'm all for giving it a shot.  The demo videos for it have looked really cool.

 

I noticed in your download list: ":: Install XML files, find the settings in BodySlides under PSB (Pregnancy Shape Body) and run 'Create bodies'"

 

How much is involved to get this to work with the mods that require pregnancy scaling?  Is that it, or, as I suspect, is there a mountain of other stuff involved?  (I miss the simplicity of Sexout's pregnancy mod!)

 

One other thing I noticed on the body I had: there's a gap of thin air between the bottom of the leg and the ankle.  Is that normal, or, did I do something wrong, as usual?  I never have these problems with UNPB-BBP.

 

From your illustrations, it looked like you had the same issue that I did with the underside of the breast: smaller breasts didn't look as odd (in fact, yours looked perfectly fine); but, on the larger breasts, the same, flat area presented itself on the underside.  Yours came out looking better than mine, but, still, I could see that flat spot on the largest breasts.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

I've been working to get my game ready for this upcoming release of the new version of this mod.  This may not strictly be a SD+-type question, but, you folks may know the answer, and this is the only place on this site where I hang around enough to feel comfortable asking such a stupid question.  And, at least, I'm only encountering the issue because of my devotion to this mod. 

 

I'm trying to install the CBBE-BBP-type body in time to play an human for the next play-through.  I'm accustomed to the UNPB-BBP body, which, IMO looks the best and looks very natural until the weight starts getting on the heavy side, at which point the fact that the waist dimension never changes causes the body to look (again, IMO) weirder and weirder.  UNPB-BBP really needs its own version of that Bodyslide and Studio program-- or, at least, just have the waist scale a little with everything else.  (I know that someone made a conversion of Bodyslide for UNP in 2012; but, I couldn't see any work done on it after that.)

 

Anyway, when I created a CBBE-BBP body, the breasts came out looking angular on the underside, no matter what I did.  They looked fine in the Bodyslide, but, in game, they had completely flat areas where, IRL, there would naturally be a curve.  The larger the breasts, the worse they looked. 

 

I may be talking about an issue everyone already knows about and accepts; or, I may be encountering my own, special problem.  I can't tell without asking.

 

I'm including a screenshot of what I'm talking about, with the problem minimized as much as I could manage; i.e., I had the "small breast" setting on maximum and all of the other breast settings at zero.  This was for my "heavy" body; I actually wanted the breasts to be larger than that-- more like the size they are with UNPB.  I believe that the absolute maximum breast size in the entire game should be be larger than that.  But, as I said, as soon as I added input from the regular "breast" slider, the breasts began looking even worse.  Am I doing anything fundamentally wrong, or, is there some "trick" to getting the breasts to look more naturally rounded?

 

Crummy_Breast.jpg

 

I tried to reduce some of these issues with CBBE settings for a body with better range between skinny and heavy.

You can check it out here:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/blog/60/entry-533-hormones-body-shape/

 

It is not to everybody's liking but I find it provides a nice range of options.

 

 

Thanks a LOT for the reply!

 

You're undoubtedly familiar with what a doofus I am when it comes to understanding how all of this stuff works.  The person who tutored me on LOOT, TES5Edit and WryeBash actually warned me away from HDT a while back, telling me that even he had difficulty getting it all to work properly; and, knowing me, I'd go crazy trying to get it to work before it ever did.  But, if it's going to take at least two weeks for the mod to be ready, I have time, at least, to try to get it to work.  And, I HATE how CHSBHC animates the breasts like balloons bobbing in a draft.  If HDT does a better job (and it would pretty much HAVE to), I'm all for giving it a shot.  The demo videos for it have looked really cool.

 

I noticed in your download list: ":: Install XML files, find the settings in BodySlides under PSB (Pregnancy Shape Body) and run 'Create bodies'"

 

How much is involved to get this to work with the mods that require pregnancy scaling?  Is that it, or, as I suspect, is there a mountain of other stuff involved?  (I miss the simplicity of Sexout's pregnancy mod!)

 

One other thing I noticed on the body I had: there's a gap of thin air between the bottom of the leg and the ankle.  Is that normal, or, did I do something wrong, as usual?  I never have these problems with UNPB-BBP.

 

From your illustrations, it looked like you had the same issue that I did with the underside of the breast: smaller breasts didn't look as odd (in fact, yours looked perfectly fine); but, on the larger breasts, the same, flat area presented itself on the underside.  Yours came out looking better than mine, but, still, I could see that flat spot on the largest breasts.

 

 

Fixing that flat area is beyond my editing skills. I suspect one would have to improve that directly on the model itself in Blender.

 

If you are uncomfortable with setting up HDT, I would recommend staying away from my body file.

 

Not that it requires anything crazy, but because I tweaked things over time and I probably missed some notes about what is really needed to make it work. I'm not even sure HDT is really required at this point.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Ahead of the release of SD+ 3.0, I started moving items from the second post into individual issues and wiki pages in the Github repository for SD+.

 

Here are some useful links:

 

API (for modders)

 

https://github.com/MinLL/SDPlus/wiki/For-Modders

 

SD+ Known issues

 

See a full list of known issues here:

 

- Bugs and known issues: https://github.com/MinLL/SDPlus/labels/bug

- Compatibility issues with other mods: https://github.com/MinLL/SDPlus/labels/Compatibility

 

Ideas

 

- Enhancements/ideas: https://github.com/MinLL/SDPlus/labels/enhancement

 

I will need at least another week when I return home on Sunday before we can release it.

 

Here is a list of issues I still have to fix before release:

 

https://github.com/MinLL/SDPlus/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A3.0RC 

 

And here he is what I still have to do:

 

- Test enslavement / release of companions
:: Check code to release companions on enslavement end

- Finish test basic slavery
:: Check end game (bad slave)
:: Check join (good slave)

- Finish dialogues for slavery level 2, 3 and 4

 

If you are in the US, Happy Thanksgiving.

If you are now, Happy Thanksgiving anyway

[Golgo13]

Huh--

 

I really, REALLY wish that someone would make an adaptation of "Bodyslide 2 and Outfit Studio" for UNPB-BBP.  That would solve all of my problems more than enough to suit me.

 

Using CBBE would allow my game to be compatible with a lot of other mods, so, I'd love to be able to use it.  But, the most important thing to me is having the 'toons look good.  Having the legs floating a few inches above the ankles, and having angular breasts that float like balloons in a breeze while the 'toon is standing still are-- for me-- immersion annihilators. 

 

As long as I have all of this time before the next version of the mod comes out (I'm not playing Skyrim until then, except to get my new character working), I'm going to throw caution to the wind and uninstall CHSBHC/install HDT with the mods on the list in your post.  At least, I believe that HDT fixes that awful breast animation forced on you by CHSBHC (which, as far as I know, is required for BBP animation without HDT).  If everything goes to shit, I'll just uninstall the HDT stuff and go back to what I had, previously.  Maybe, I'll even just go back to UNPB-BBP if I can't get HDT to work.  I really hate the way this stuff looks, now, with CBBE-BBP (except for small-breasted 'toons-- which looked good with UNPB-BBP, anyway; but, even they don't look good floating above their ankles).

 

In case I'm the only one having this ankle problem and you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm including an image.  It was difficult to get the right angle/distance, so, the separation isn't as obvious as it might be.

 

 

Thanks, again, for the help.