Devious Devices - Captured Dreams Shop v4.15 - files removed

[Jayleia]

 

 

Especially THAT Jarl, of all the douchebag Jarls...I'd sooner help enslave someone for Maven.  At least, with her, she may only value people for what they can do for her...but I get the feeling that Siddgeir doesn't place any value at all on people that aren't him.

 

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to receive an urgent letter telling me to go directly to Falkreath and...inquire into the health and welfare of Nenya...and to take whatever steps necessary to insure her continued safety and security...if not her comfort.

There will be something that happens to him later, don't worry.

You have no idea how delighted I am to hear that.

[GuardianofRoin]

What options and features do you plan on implementing when you're ready to add the player's enslavement to the Master? I'm quite eager to hear what you may have in store for us when that High Elf decides it's time to snap a collar on us.

[Veladarius]

What options and features do you plan on implementing when you're ready to add the player's enslavement to the Master? I'm quite eager to hear what you may have in store for us when that High Elf decides it's time to snap a collar on us.

 

The player will get a room for their use (the one Erani goes to in the Manor) and some other privileges with the opportunity to earn more or lose them using a demerit / bonus system. Several quests will be available as a slave only, they will range from menial labor to some more 'intimate' work as well. most will be tailored towards the player's sub / dom level though there will be occasions where you don't have a choice on what happens (especially on punishments or working off demerits). I want to build a number of variations on all the new scenes and quests so you don't know exactly what is going to happen each time. There are a lot of things I am still deciding how to handle but I intend to have a number of things to do.

[Slorm]

 

The player will get a room for their use (the one Erani goes to in the Manor) and some other privileges with the opportunity to earn more or lose them using a demerit / bonus system. Several quests will be available as a slave only, they will range from menial labor to some more 'intimate' work as well. most will be tailored towards the player's sub / dom level though there will be occasions where you don't have a choice on what happens (especially on punishments or working off demerits). I want to build a number of variations on all the new scenes and quests so you don't know exactly what is going to happen each time. There are a lot of things I am still deciding how to handle but I intend to have a number of things to do.

 

 

As an extra optional gold sink how about an option to charge the pc for the room, if they don't pay then the demerits start stacking up. This would keep keep the delivery/retrieval quests in play if the pc is really desperate for some coin.

 

[Veladarius]

 

 

The player will get a room for their use (the one Erani goes to in the Manor) and some other privileges with the opportunity to earn more or lose them using a demerit / bonus system. Several quests will be available as a slave only, they will range from menial labor to some more 'intimate' work as well. most will be tailored towards the player's sub / dom level though there will be occasions where you don't have a choice on what happens (especially on punishments or working off demerits). I want to build a number of variations on all the new scenes and quests so you don't know exactly what is going to happen each time. There are a lot of things I am still deciding how to handle but I intend to have a number of things to do.

 

 

As an extra optional gold sink how about an option to charge the pc for the room, if they don't pay then the demerits start stacking up. This would keep keep the delivery/retrieval quests in play if the pc is really desperate for some coin.

 

 

 

I am considering that once you become a slave that instead of gold to remove items like gags or paid for deliveries it would be part of the bonus / demerit system. If you need gold you could cash in some of your bonus for gold instead of spending it on other services, it doesn't make sense to me for the player to be paid in gold since you are her slave. I may allow the player to pay off demerits in gold but it would be expensive.

[thingwhatsqueaks]

 

 

 

The player will get a room for their use (the one Erani goes to in the Manor) and some other privileges with the opportunity to earn more or lose them using a demerit / bonus system. Several quests will be available as a slave only, they will range from menial labor to some more 'intimate' work as well. most will be tailored towards the player's sub / dom level though there will be occasions where you don't have a choice on what happens (especially on punishments or working off demerits). I want to build a number of variations on all the new scenes and quests so you don't know exactly what is going to happen each time. There are a lot of things I am still deciding how to handle but I intend to have a number of things to do.

 

 

As an extra optional gold sink how about an option to charge the pc for the room, if they don't pay then the demerits start stacking up. This would keep keep the delivery/retrieval quests in play if the pc is really desperate for some coin.

 

 

 

I am considering that once you become a slave that instead of gold to remove items like gags or paid for deliveries it would be part of the bonus / demerit system. If you need gold you could cash in some of your bonus for gold instead of spending it on other services, it doesn't make sense to me for the player to be paid in gold since you are her slave. I may allow the player to pay off demerits in gold but it would be expensive.

 

 

Would you also consider Bounty Hunters if the player decides to run away?

 

[zaqwer]

Hey guys, I need some help with the quest "a task for master" . I've received the letter from the master and read it, which started the quest, telling me to speak with master for the new job. But when I tried talking to the master, nothing showed up, except the regular dialogue. Now I still have the objective active in my journal, and a quest marker on the master, but can't seem to continue. Have tried waiting for a few hours in game, S/L,  neither worked. 

 

How can I solve this issue? like with console?

[Verstort]

Hey guys, I need some help with the quest "a task for master" . I've received the letter from the master and read it, which started the quest, telling me to speak with master for the new job. But when I tried talking to the master, nothing showed up, except the regular dialogue. Now I still have the objective active in my journal, and a quest marker on the master, but can't seem to continue. Have tried waiting for a few hours in game, S/L,  neither worked. 

 

How can I solve this issue? like with console?

 

You aren't making the mistake I made at first, assuming master would force greet into quest specific dialog, are you? Vel changed it in 3.0

 

Master now normally has quest turn-in dialog, that includes quest starting dialog, inside of her quest dialog submenu. The option to talk to master about the letter should be there, in the menu that accumulated all of the other quest dialog parts including minor quest request and turn ins and stuff

 

If you don't see an option there than that's a different issue, and you can help tell vel what might be wrong by collecting the quest stages that you're currectly on. You can get the full stage list with "sqs <quest name>" and the full quest state with "sqv <quest name>"

 

I forgot the main quest name, might be something like CDxMainQuest, but the expansion quest you have a letter for is CDxExpQuest01. Make sure you're on stage 25 on that quest.

 

Edit: looks like someone else was having issues with this a few days ago: not sure if it got resolved

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23844-devious-devices-captured-dreams-shop-updated-11-18-2014/page-330?do=findComment&comment=990980

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23844-devious-devices-captured-dreams-shop-updated-11-18-2014/page-333?do=findComment&comment=992658

[magicrealm]

when will be the update for the submitted way and the better punishments ? a week, a month, 2 months ?

[ImmortalOne]

I have had loads of trouble with the "Another task for the Master" quest
At the last night at the embassy with the Elenwen sex scene in the Solar, I get so many CTD's and C++ errors, and in the end I just had to give up on that quest
I went back to the CD shop, and recreated the look with the items I had on in the Solar to see if there is a problem with that, but there I don't get CTD's and the animations play as intended
I also tested it with the other material types and again no problems
So I think there is something wrong with that stage of the quest, if it were SexLab or the Devious Devices causing the problem I should have also crashed outside of that quest
Could you please take another look at that quest, cause it was really kinky and I would like to know how it continues

[zaqwer]

 

Hey guys, I need some help with the quest "a task for master" . I've received the letter from the master and read it, which started the quest, telling me to speak with master for the new job. But when I tried talking to the master, nothing showed up, except the regular dialogue. Now I still have the objective active in my journal, and a quest marker on the master, but can't seem to continue. Have tried waiting for a few hours in game, S/L,  neither worked. 

 

How can I solve this issue? like with console?

 

You aren't making the mistake I made at first, assuming master would force greet into quest specific dialog, are you? Vel changed it in 3.0

 

Master now normally has quest turn-in dialog, that includes quest starting dialog, inside of her quest dialog submenu. The option to talk to master about the letter should be there, in the menu that accumulated all of the other quest dialog parts including minor quest request and turn ins and stuff

 

If you don't see an option there than that's a different issue, and you can help tell vel what might be wrong by collecting the quest stages that you're currectly on. You can get the full stage list with "sqs <quest name>" and the full quest state with "sqv <quest name>"

 

I forgot the main quest name, might be something like CDxMainQuest, but the expansion quest you have a letter for is CDxExpQuest01. Make sure you're on stage 25 on that quest.

 

Edit: looks like someone else was having issues with this a few days ago: not sure if it got resolved

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23844-devious-devices-captured-dreams-shop-updated-11-18-2014/page-330?do=findComment&comment=990980

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23844-devious-devices-captured-dreams-shop-updated-11-18-2014/page-333?do=findComment&comment=992658

 

 

Thanks a lot for your help. I checked the master's quest submenu, the new quest wasn't there. 

 

However, I may have found the cause in the post you linked to. My quest stage of CDxConfiscation is 10, which seems to stop the new quest from going on. I'll try something around.

 

edit:

I can't set CDxConfiscation stage value to 5 or below by using setstage command. It just won't change. But I can get "a task for master" to continue by toggling off confiscation. Hmm...acceptable solution.

[aqqh]

Could you please take another look at that quest, cause it was really kinky and I would like to know how it continues

By now probably hundreds of people went through that quest just fine - so whatever that problem is it cannot be something that occurs to everyone. Or at least there has to be something that causes those problems to be more severe for you than they are for other ppl.

 

Your best chance to find whats wrong is to check your papyrus log.

[ImmortalOne]

 

Could you please take another look at that quest, cause it was really kinky and I would like to know how it continues

By now probably hundreds of people went through that quest just fine - so whatever that problem is it cannot be something that occurs to everyone. Or at least there has to be something that causes those problems to be more severe for you than they are for other ppl.

 

Your best chance to find whats wrong is to check your papyrus log.

 

 

After reading about 20 pages back in this thread, I noticed some other people are having the same issues as I have

But I'll try to do it again with the papyrus active, and hopefully that will shed some light on the subject

 

[Veladarius]

 

 

 

 

The player will get a room for their use (the one Erani goes to in the Manor) and some other privileges with the opportunity to earn more or lose them using a demerit / bonus system. Several quests will be available as a slave only, they will range from menial labor to some more 'intimate' work as well. most will be tailored towards the player's sub / dom level though there will be occasions where you don't have a choice on what happens (especially on punishments or working off demerits). I want to build a number of variations on all the new scenes and quests so you don't know exactly what is going to happen each time. There are a lot of things I am still deciding how to handle but I intend to have a number of things to do.

 

 

As an extra optional gold sink how about an option to charge the pc for the room, if they don't pay then the demerits start stacking up. This would keep keep the delivery/retrieval quests in play if the pc is really desperate for some coin.

 

 

 

I am considering that once you become a slave that instead of gold to remove items like gags or paid for deliveries it would be part of the bonus / demerit system. If you need gold you could cash in some of your bonus for gold instead of spending it on other services, it doesn't make sense to me for the player to be paid in gold since you are her slave. I may allow the player to pay off demerits in gold but it would be expensive.

 

 

Would you also consider Bounty Hunters if the player decides to run away?

 

 

 

If I can figure out a good way to do them. I am working on adding a jail and a custom crime faction for it, once that is done I could add the bounty hunters to use that. I had tried to get the jail working for v3 but had a number of issues with the arrest / surrender dialogue.

 

 

when will be the update for the submitted way and the better punishments ? a week, a month, 2 months ?

 

Earliest is likely a month but will probably be January.

 

 

I have had loads of trouble with the "Another task for the Master" quest

At the last night at the embassy with the Elenwen sex scene in the Solar, I get so many CTD's and C++ errors, and in the end I just had to give up on that quest

I went back to the CD shop, and recreated the look with the items I had on in the Solar to see if there is a problem with that, but there I don't get CTD's and the animations play as intended

I also tested it with the other material types and again no problems

So I think there is something wrong with that stage of the quest, if it were SexLab or the Devious Devices causing the problem I should have also crashed outside of that quest

Could you please take another look at that quest, cause it was really kinky and I would like to know how it continues

 

The C++ errors are from SexLab, if you look at the papyrus log you will see SexLab has gone through most of the process to start the scene but crashes as it gets ready to play the animations. When I start the sex scenes I have my quest stop all control of the player (idle animations are stopped and control is given back to the player) so my quest is not trying to do anything during the sex scene. Once the sex scene ends it triggers the next stage of the quest and control of the player is taken again.

 

Make sure you have the latest version of SexLab, there were some fixes done to reduce the crashes. I still crash once (usually at the first scene with Elenwen) but reloading a save made just before the start lets me get all the way through to the end. You can save any time you are in the cell and have control as well as any point that you are not in dialogue or a sex scene is running.

 

 

 

 

Hey guys, I need some help with the quest "a task for master" . I've received the letter from the master and read it, which started the quest, telling me to speak with master for the new job. But when I tried talking to the master, nothing showed up, except the regular dialogue. Now I still have the objective active in my journal, and a quest marker on the master, but can't seem to continue. Have tried waiting for a few hours in game, S/L,  neither worked. 

 

How can I solve this issue? like with console?

 

You aren't making the mistake I made at first, assuming master would force greet into quest specific dialog, are you? Vel changed it in 3.0

 

Master now normally has quest turn-in dialog, that includes quest starting dialog, inside of her quest dialog submenu. The option to talk to master about the letter should be there, in the menu that accumulated all of the other quest dialog parts including minor quest request and turn ins and stuff

 

If you don't see an option there than that's a different issue, and you can help tell vel what might be wrong by collecting the quest stages that you're currectly on. You can get the full stage list with "sqs <quest name>" and the full quest state with "sqv <quest name>"

 

I forgot the main quest name, might be something like CDxMainQuest, but the expansion quest you have a letter for is CDxExpQuest01. Make sure you're on stage 25 on that quest.

 

Edit: looks like someone else was having issues with this a few days ago: not sure if it got resolved

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23844-devious-devices-captured-dreams-shop-updated-11-18-2014/page-330?do=findComment&comment=990980

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23844-devious-devices-captured-dreams-shop-updated-11-18-2014/page-333?do=findComment&comment=992658

 

 

Thanks a lot for your help. I checked the master's quest submenu, the new quest wasn't there. 

 

However, I may have found the cause in the post you linked to. My quest stage of CDxConfiscation is 10, which seems to stop the new quest from going on. I'll try something around.

 

 

If necessary you can reset the Confiscation quest in the MCM menu, likely there is another quest you have running that is delaying the Confiscation start. I will take a look at the various quests and see if one is blocking the others when it does not need to be.

[Jayleia]

 

As an extra optional gold sink how about an option to charge the pc for the room, if they don't pay then the demerits start stacking up. This would keep keep the delivery/retrieval quests in play if the pc is really desperate for some coin.

 

I am considering that once you become a slave that instead of gold to remove items like gags or paid for deliveries it would be part of the bonus / demerit system. If you need gold you could cash in some of your bonus for gold instead of spending it on other services, it doesn't make sense to me for the player to be paid in gold since you are her slave. I may allow the player to pay off demerits in gold but it would be expensive.

I don't like the idea of being paid, or even being able to cash in for gold.  You're a slave...and an unusually talented one, if you need gold...you need to figure out how to get it.  And likewise with demerits...maybe not paying directly paying them off with gold, but something that would take a lot of gold and possibly some risk to obtain.

 

Of course...that kind of leads me to a question...how do you plan to introduce the player to their upcoming change in status?  Can I request that Master start leaving the belt on until after the NEXT errand (or several errands, so its not as indefinite as the "Free" Trial could be)?

 

Also...yes, I'd love for her to just not pay me as a method of drawing me closer to being enslaved...if I protest without a belt on "Well...we both know you're not doing this for the money", with the belt on "We both know you're not doing this for the money...and you know you're not getting out today now, don't you?"

[Veladarius]

 

 

As an extra optional gold sink how about an option to charge the pc for the room, if they don't pay then the demerits start stacking up. This would keep keep the delivery/retrieval quests in play if the pc is really desperate for some coin.

 

I am considering that once you become a slave that instead of gold to remove items like gags or paid for deliveries it would be part of the bonus / demerit system. If you need gold you could cash in some of your bonus for gold instead of spending it on other services, it doesn't make sense to me for the player to be paid in gold since you are her slave. I may allow the player to pay off demerits in gold but it would be expensive.

I don't like the idea of being paid, or even being able to cash in for gold.  You're a slave...and an unusually talented one, if you need gold...you need to figure out how to get it.  And likewise with demerits...maybe not paying directly paying them off with gold, but something that would take a lot of gold and possibly some risk to obtain.

 

Of course...that kind of leads me to a question...how do you plan to introduce the player to their upcoming change in status?  Can I request that Master start leaving the belt on until after the NEXT errand (or several errands, so its not as indefinite as the "Free" Trial could be)?

 

Also...yes, I'd love for her to just not pay me as a method of drawing me closer to being enslaved...if I protest without a belt on "Well...we both know you're not doing this for the money", with the belt on "We both know you're not doing this for the money...and you know you're not getting out today now, don't you?"

 

 

The amount of gold would not be a large amount and there are times that the player does need it, especially if they are enslaved at a lower level.

 

There will be multiple ways to become a slave, some of which would be: Owe a substantial sum of money to her or End up with the Free Trial belt on continuously for an extended period of time or If you are submissive enough and she likes you enough to simply take you. There will likely end up being others as well as the situation warrants doing it.

[Jayleia]

 

 

The amount of gold would not be a large amount and there are times that the player does need it, especially if they are enslaved at a lower level.

 

There will be multiple ways to become a slave, some of which would be: Owe a substantial sum of money to her or End up with the Free Trial belt on continuously for an extended period of time or If you are submissive enough and she likes you enough to simply take you. There will likely end up being others as well as the situation warrants doing it.

Awesome...though, I was thinking about those as something of a mid-point between a "liked enslavement" and being a friend and contractor.

 

And yes, I hadn't thought about low-level gold supplies, maybe set a quest check...if you've completed, say Sovngarde, it assumes you're high enough level that you are very talented and should be able to handle your own finances without help from your owner...

[aqqh]

Seriously - selling loot from thiefs gives you 3 times more money than what master pays you.

So imo - its quite whatever.

[ImmortalOne]

 

I have had loads of trouble with the "Another task for the Master" quest

At the last night at the embassy with the Elenwen sex scene in the Solar, I get so many CTD's and C++ errors, and in the end I just had to give up on that quest

I went back to the CD shop, and recreated the look with the items I had on in the Solar to see if there is a problem with that, but there I don't get CTD's and the animations play as intended

I also tested it with the other material types and again no problems

So I think there is something wrong with that stage of the quest, if it were SexLab or the Devious Devices causing the problem I should have also crashed outside of that quest

Could you please take another look at that quest, cause it was really kinky and I would like to know how it continues

 

The C++ errors are from SexLab, if you look at the papyrus log you will see SexLab has gone through most of the process to start the scene but crashes as it gets ready to play the animations. When I start the sex scenes I have my quest stop all control of the player (idle animations are stopped and control is given back to the player) so my quest is not trying to do anything during the sex scene. Once the sex scene ends it triggers the next stage of the quest and control of the player is taken again.

 

Make sure you have the latest version of SexLab, there were some fixes done to reduce the crashes. I still crash once (usually at the first scene with Elenwen) but reloading a save made just before the start lets me get all the way through to the end. You can save any time you are in the cell and have control as well as any point that you are not in dialogue or a sex scene is running.

 

 

Ok, I did the whole thing again, and it crashed at the same point again

But this time I did make a save just before the sexscene, and after loading that save it didn't crash, and I was able to finish that quest

 

[Nightmyste]

i've got a problem with elenwen's dinner party

the guard gets my char ready and we walk to the stairs but after the scene Blacks out i just end up halfway to the stairs and stand still as exactly nothing happens

nothing is show as a problem in my papyrus logs though, but here it is anyway

Papyrus.0.log

[Slorm]

 

I am considering that once you become a slave that instead of gold to remove items like gags or paid for deliveries it would be part of the bonus / demerit system. If you need gold you could cash in some of your bonus for gold instead of spending it on other services, it doesn't make sense to me for the player to be paid in gold since you are her slave. I may allow the player to pay off demerits in gold but it would be expensive.

 

 

I see your point but what I had in mind are gameplay reasons for spending gold as there's so much of it around even using gold sinks like CDW. Perhaps another approach might be for Master to demand gold from the slave and leave it down to the slave as to how she gets it. Just kicking around ideas here

 

[Gameplayer]

To enslave the player,

 

The Master should have quests that are Submissive Slave restricted.

Enslaving the player long term shouldn't be about presenting new problems that leads to player disinterest and uninstallation.  Note there are mods that are not in my LO because they are too strong handed on enslavement and become very boring real fast.

 

Erotic games, quests, deliveries, and enhanced "message" text.  All a reward for becoming the Masters slave.  Don't forget that its the Player the person behind the keyboard that wants a fantasy fulfilled, they are not all looking for a gold sink.

 

What they are looking for is kink.  Make kink the reward for enslavement and the player brings their dragonborn back to your mod everytime.  This talk about losing out on gold and such hardly recognizes that the mod is not an inherit part of the game.  Rather a nice addition.

 

Capture the Player's Fantasy of being a bondage sex toy.  Capture the attention of the player now you have an enslaved Dragonborn.  Fail that and there are plenty of ways to end the quest anyway.

[Slorm]

Erotic games, quests, deliveries, and enhanced "message" text.  All a reward for becoming the Masters slave.  Don't forget that its the Player the person behind the keyboard that wants a fantasy fulfilled, they are not all looking for a gold sink.

 

I think this depends on playstyle/roleplay, to me having a reason to loot so that other mods like DCL have a chance to fire is as much part of the fantasy, so Master demanding gold would fulfil that part admirably. It's about having to take a chance rather than a setpiece erotic fantasy which is why I particularly like the delivery quests

 

I'm sure it could always have an option switch for anyone that really hates the idea. Might be best as a random quest to "help the CD shop prosper" with a suitable punishment for failure, as I do agree with your point on avoiding grind

 

[PubliusNV]

Capture the Player's Fantasy of being a bondage sex toy.  Capture the attention of the player now you have an enslaved Dragonborn.  Fail that and there are plenty of ways to end the quest anyway.

 

In that vein, I wouldn't mind a few more quests like the Elewen one, where the Master sent your PC to someone to repay a debt or seal a deal.  Perhaps lending your PC to the East Empire Company for a few days to get better terms on importing needed items, to bandits/forsworn/pirates to help convince them to not loot her goods, etc.

 

[Veladarius]

i've got a problem with elenwen's dinner party

the guard gets my char ready and we walk to the stairs but after the scene Blacks out i just end up halfway to the stairs and stand still as exactly nothing happens

nothing is show as a problem in my papyrus logs though, but here it is anyway

 

Most likely one of the actors is not in the correct position for whatever reason. Try enabling the controls and moving back a bit then disabling them again and see if that will get them to move to where they are supposed to be. If that does not work you can try setting the stage to the next one, use SQS CDxExpQuest02 to find out the current stage and what the next one is.