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The one immediate thing that I would like would be a way to skip the embassy quest.  I think it has proven to be something of a problem child when it comes to scripting.  It also takes far too long, with over 10 minutes being my standard.

 

I believe Veladarius has been good enough to post the quest stages somewhere in this thread, a couple of pages back, so it should be possible to complete it immediately.

 

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Especially in pony boots.....

 

LOL I bet :D

 

 

 

You need Gifts Of The Outsider mod from Nexus, then you have Blink (power from Dishonored) - short range teleport.  It can break the game as you can then teleport up the sides of mountains but at least it circumvents all the fucking mountaineering you might do otherwise in the vanilla game.  And makes this package recovery slightly easier; in my experience the bandits at Traitor's Post are always supernaturally aware and bizarrely hard.

 

 

 

Nah, that's cheating. It's not that hard to do :P

 

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I still get some minor problems with the Thalmor Embassy quest in the latest version:

  • Got stuck at stage 125, had to advance to stage 150 using the console.
  • Final night with Elenwen, she keeps trying to repeat the final force-greet after the gag is in (last stage of scene 'CDxEQ02_K_ElenwenBR101'), even after the 1st round of sex.  I just cancel out the 2nd and later times.
  • Possibly intentional, but might be a bug: when the Master says she needs to consider a proper reward, that's the end of it.  No reward for a three-day ordeal.
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I have ab Problem.

When i get to the 'VIP House to receive Erani as a slave the Scene doesnt continue after the old woman finishs talking.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23844-devious-devices-captured-dreams-shop-updated-11-18-2014/?p=995106

 

 

Thanks it works now but  I have an other problem now.

When i make a delivery for the master and she equips me with cuffs around the arms and legs the cuffs stay in place even if they are shown as unequiped in the inventory.

I tried to unequip or drop them with the console but it doesnt work.

 

Sorry if this problem has already been answered

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But there is a problem. Even I have changed all the thalmor soldiers with females. My male Dragonborn still acted as a female. You know? soldiers use plastic dicks to fuck my ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what did you expect?  :P

Sexlab doesn't care about gender of actors. Who would by fucked by who is entirely up to creator of a mod you are playing

When you make a script for sexlab scene you declare actors - the one that is declared as first is always on receiving end and that actor being female or male doesn't make any difference. So male declared as first actor is gonna be fucked with a strapon up the ass.

And every scene of this quest put player on receiving end. Well except first scene with elenwen - its more her servicing you than otherwise..

 

Only thing you can do about it (well, without editing CD scripts) is to push "=" during sexlab animations. That's a default sexlab keybind to swap actor roles.

You would most likely have to use it on every single animation.

 

Result still wont be very immersive (most of your stay there would be that your male would rape bunch of horny altmer girls - that's a dream-come-true not a punishment... :D ) but at least it wont be gay.

 

This quest simply isn't made for male player characters.

Would be awesome if male / dom chars would have alternative way to complete this quest tbh. I was asking for it since the very beginning.

 

I think I need the code of this mission…………I'd better skip it.

Posted

Imo just keep pushing that "=" until you get result to your liking. It's likely that "story" of that quest would be of some importance later on. Like there is some hint of Elenwen calling master in some unusual way - tho i don't rly get it what it is for. Also it seems that one of the actresses introduced there would likely play a major role later on.

 

Would be cool if decisions made during this (and others) quest would affect things later on. Like making (or not) some decision would have certain consequences later on.

Tho this quest is quite linear and your decisions barely affect the outcome. That's basically what i don't exactly like about it - this quest is longest and least interactive, most of the time you just sit and watch.

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Im sorry if this is a repost, but i could not find a solution.

Spoilers for the surprise.

When Master has invited me back to receive my "surprise" i go and talk to her and ask her about it ect. then we get teleportet to the VIP house and wait for Erani But she never appears. Any help will be appreciated.

 

Use SQV CDxDiaErani and make sure the stage is at 10, if not then set it to that using setstage.

 

 

Got the same problem - no Erani showing up, even after using setstage.

 

How long should it take until she arrives? Waited about 5 minutes.

Posted

Got the same problem - no Erani showing up, even after using setstage.

 

How long should it take until she arrives? Waited about 5 minutes.

If she went to manor house (and thats most likely) she would never arrive... If she did not come by herself you would likely need to use console to teleport her to you.

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Got the same problem - no Erani showing up, even after using setstage.

 

How long should it take until she arrives? Waited about 5 minutes.

If she went to manor house (and thats most likely) she would never arrive... If she did not come by herself you would likely need to use console to teleport her to you.

 

 

Use the option for Erani in the MCM Captured Dreams  Erani menu to bring her to you.

 

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The option "submit resist", when being accosted, is that your mod or someone else's?  It tends to crash more often. I just say "resist" now.

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The 'submit resist' option is not from my mod, I have not seen that behavior from any of the sexlab mods I have installed so I can't say what is causing it.

 

Defeat has the submit resist.

 

 

I use Defeat and have not see that during the scenes I have made, it should only be showing that during scenes initiated by Defeat.

 

 

It's been a while since I used it, but I'm pretty sure the submit or resist option is from SD+

 

 

 

I don't know why SD+ would trigger though, the player is not set as a victim in any scenes other than the one with Ailus. Even then I would expect that you would see that when any sex scene would trigger.

 

 

I think there's a feature when while wearing a collar NPCs can decide to take advantage of you, leading to you being given that submit/resist option. It's not the enslavement trigger - it's a bit like the cursed loot feature where you might be considered fair game if wearing the cursed or slave collars. At least I think that's how it works. As I said, I haven't used SD+ in a while, so I might be wrong.

 

If it works like it used to, this event can trigger any time after the first enslavement if the "Coveted" quest is enabled. Your character gets considered naked no matter what she's wearing, and whenever an NPC makes a comment about your nudity they attempt to rape you.

 

Unrelated question:

 

How effective are the protector belt and bra? I've been considering getting for protection, but I'm worried that if I equip them they'll basically never come off unless I take them off, and then most of the SL mods won't matter very much. Are there any downsides to using them? Are any of the other mods like DH/DCL able to bypass them?

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The option "submit resist", when being accosted, is that your mod or someone else's?  It tends to crash more often. I just say "resist" now.

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The 'submit resist' option is not from my mod, I have not seen that behavior from any of the sexlab mods I have installed so I can't say what is causing it.

 

Defeat has the submit resist.

 

 

I use Defeat and have not see that during the scenes I have made, it should only be showing that during scenes initiated by Defeat.

 

 

It's been a while since I used it, but I'm pretty sure the submit or resist option is from SD+

 

 

 

I don't know why SD+ would trigger though, the player is not set as a victim in any scenes other than the one with Ailus. Even then I would expect that you would see that when any sex scene would trigger.

 

 

I think there's a feature when while wearing a collar NPCs can decide to take advantage of you, leading to you being given that submit/resist option. It's not the enslavement trigger - it's a bit like the cursed loot feature where you might be considered fair game if wearing the cursed or slave collars. At least I think that's how it works. As I said, I haven't used SD+ in a while, so I might be wrong.

 

If it works like it used to, this event can trigger any time after the first enslavement if the "Coveted" quest is enabled. Your character gets considered naked no matter what she's wearing, and whenever an NPC makes a comment about your nudity they attempt to rape you.

 

Unrelated question:

 

How effective are the protector belt and bra? I've been considering getting for protection, but I'm worried that if I equip them they'll basically never come off unless I take them off, and then most of the SL mods won't matter very much. Are there any downsides to using them? Are any of the other mods like DH/DCL able to bypass them?

 

 

If that feature can be disabled I recommend doing so during any scenes or they may be stopped.

 

The Protector belt is just as effective as the other quest belts, they won't be removed by other mods. These were intended for use by people who want to avoid being raped (mostly as a roleplay feature). The down side is that the amulet has a 5% chance of breaking whenever you use it leaving you with a broken amulet and the belt/bra still on you with no way to remove them until you make a new one.

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Got the same problem - no Erani showing up, even after using setstage.

 

How long should it take until she arrives? Waited about 5 minutes.

If she went to manor house (and thats most likely) she would never arrive... If she did not come by herself you would likely need to use console to teleport her to you.

 

 

Use the option for Erani in the MCM Captured Dreams  Erani menu to bring her to you.

 

 

If the MCM menu isn't available for her then the quest has not been set. Setting the stage to 10 on CDxDiaErani will set up her controlling quest then use the MCM option to move her to you, it should proceed from there. I will add a check to the start of the scene to make sure the quest is set properly.

Posted

Imo just keep pushing that "=" until you get result to your liking. It's likely that "story" of that quest would be of some importance later on. Like there is some hint of Elenwen calling master in some unusual way - tho i don't rly get it what it is for. Also it seems that one of the actresses introduced there would likely play a major role later on.

 

Would be cool if decisions made during this (and others) quest would affect things later on. Like making (or not) some decision would have certain consequences later on.

Tho this quest is quite linear and your decisions barely affect the outcome. That's basically what i don't exactly like about it - this quest is longest and least interactive, most of the time you just sit and watch.

 

I am considering making an alternate for those who wish to bypass it (won't be added until v4) but you can expect consequences for saying no to the task.

Posted

I'm mostly thinking of the following situation: A character with 0 time rate from SL Aroused gets the protector belt and bra, and has now "won" the SL mods. Because they will never become aroused they don't need to have a motivation for removing the belt, and so can choose to remain chaste for the entire game without any risks.

 

During one of the quests in the new expansion, it's hinted that plugs are needed with the protector belt because they take care of certain "bodily functions". Maybe such a requirement could be implemented for the player? That would also give my prudish characters a reason to try out the little helper plugs.

 

Come to think of it it's not a big deal, since I could just RP the requirement.

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Got the same problem - no Erani showing up, even after using setstage.

 

How long should it take until she arrives? Waited about 5 minutes.

If she went to manor house (and thats most likely) she would never arrive... If she did not come by herself you would likely need to use console to teleport her to you.

 

 

Use the option for Erani in the MCM Captured Dreams  Erani menu to bring her to you.

 

 

If the MCM menu isn't available for her then the quest has not been set. Setting the stage to 10 on CDxDiaErani will set up her controlling quest then use the MCM option to move her to you, it should proceed from there. I will add a check to the start of the scene to make sure the quest is set properly.

 

 

That did it, thanks.

 

Posted

I'm going to try this mod again, since it seems that you made further changes to the Embassy. I was having some trouble with the guards detecting something and breaking the progression on that quest some time ago, in case you don't remember.

 

Keeping my fingers crossed for this, I really want to get through all of the quests. 

 

Great work with the mod, in any case. I love it so far.

Posted

I'm mostly thinking of the following situation: A character with 0 time rate from SL Aroused gets the protector belt and bra, and has now "won" the SL mods. Because they will never become aroused they don't need to have a motivation for removing the belt, and so can choose to remain chaste for the entire game without any risks.

 

During one of the quests in the new expansion, it's hinted that plugs are needed with the protector belt because they take care of certain "bodily functions". Maybe such a requirement could be implemented for the player? That would also give my prudish characters a reason to try out the little helper plugs.

 

Come to think of it it's not a big deal, since I could just RP the requirement.

 

Use one of the Little Helper plugs which require an arousal of 80+ for the beneficial enchantments to work. Also, if you are using Deviously Helpless they will steal the amulet from you.

 

Most of the times I have used it have been for purely role play purposes. In one my character was just starting her adventuring career and didn't want some bandit getting her pregnant. Once she put it on (first thing she did) she then proceeded to walk to the 5 major holds and did some minor quests here and there. I don't think I did any quests other than small side quests until I was level 15.

Posted

I'm going to try this mod again, since it seems that you made further changes to the Embassy. I was having some trouble with the guards detecting something and breaking the progression on that quest some time ago, in case you don't remember.

 

Keeping my fingers crossed for this, I really want to get through all of the quests. 

 

Great work with the mod, in any case. I love it so far.

 

I believe it was an issue with the factions, all of the original Thalmor factions have been removed from everyone and everything. As it was, I think the guards were attacking patrol markers that had the Thalmor faction still assigned to them (stupid, I know) as those were the only things in the area where they were attacking.

Posted

 

Imo just keep pushing that "=" until you get result to your liking. It's likely that "story" of that quest would be of some importance later on. Like there is some hint of Elenwen calling master in some unusual way - tho i don't rly get it what it is for. Also it seems that one of the actresses introduced there would likely play a major role later on.

 

Would be cool if decisions made during this (and others) quest would affect things later on. Like making (or not) some decision would have certain consequences later on.

Tho this quest is quite linear and your decisions barely affect the outcome. That's basically what i don't exactly like about it - this quest is longest and least interactive, most of the time you just sit and watch.

 

I am considering making an alternate for those who wish to bypass it (won't be added until v4) but you can expect consequences for saying no to the task.

 

 

I have the base concept for the alternate added to my outline of things for v4, you will still get to meet Ailus.

Posted

Since I'm asking questions I might as well ask one more: I usually RP good characters who are at best disinterested in sex (at least in early game) and who definitely wouldn't knowingly help someone be enslaved. So it's pretty immersion breaking when that character responds to a job offer, only to find out that it involves helping a Jarl enslave someone, without any dialogue options to refuse the quest or at least tell the Jarl he's doing something wrong. Are there any plans for an alternate to this quest? Even if the character is threatened or somehow forced to assist, or punished if she refuses, it would be a little better.

Posted

 

Imo just keep pushing that "=" until you get result to your liking. It's likely that "story" of that quest would be of some importance later on. Like there is some hint of Elenwen calling master in some unusual way - tho i don't rly get it what it is for. Also it seems that one of the actresses introduced there would likely play a major role later on.

 

Would be cool if decisions made during this (and others) quest would affect things later on. Like making (or not) some decision would have certain consequences later on.

Tho this quest is quite linear and your decisions barely affect the outcome. That's basically what i don't exactly like about it - this quest is longest and least interactive, most of the time you just sit and watch.

I am considering making an alternate for those who wish to bypass it (won't be added until v4) but you can expect consequences for saying no to the task.

Skipping whole quest would just handicap the story - if for example there would be no other way to "meet" Ailus for example.

 

maybe some different approach could be used.

lets say:

1st day would go the same.

 

night after the 1st day: sub way goes the same - you go to sleep etc

dom way there could be some "quest" to get rid of the collar. Maybe something like lure guard to approach you, beat him unconscious, use his weapon to destroy collar.

Could be made that something would trigger an alarm (like you walking into some servant after leaving prison area which would start screaming?) at that point which would lead to you ending in a cell once again.

After that you are still imprisoned but they are no longer able to force you to do their bidding so every order you get you can reply with "go fuck yourself." which would lead to whipping, torture session, provoking another guard for a brawl? Ailus could be introduced there at some point with the same scenario of her crossing the line of "no permanent damage".

 

From that point it could once again go with usual path for 3rd day - maybe with some dialogue changes and an option to agree to serve Elenwen in the evening (subby way), refuse (neutral) or overpowering her at some point to get some revenge (dom - started for example by activating some item that you would be able to find in her room - some dagger for example?)

 

Return to shop again the same with some dialogue changes reflecting what a troublesome specimen you are.

But i would have a request to get rid of imprisonment type of punishments there. 3 days without feeding for a vampire is a trip from fully fed to stage 4 of hunger. 4th day is a death from starvation. So whatever punishment would there be it should allow player to go free and bite someone...

 

PS this issue for vamps could be also fixed with an option to feed on that knocked out guard (he could be set essential so he would not die)

 

PS2 Written before i read this

I have the base concept for the alternate added to my outline of things for v4, you will still get to meet Ailus.

Posted

 

I'm going to try this mod again, since it seems that you made further changes to the Embassy. I was having some trouble with the guards detecting something and breaking the progression on that quest some time ago, in case you don't remember.

 

Keeping my fingers crossed for this, I really want to get through all of the quests. 

 

Great work with the mod, in any case. I love it so far.

 

I believe it was an issue with the factions, all of the original Thalmor factions have been removed from everyone and everything. As it was, I think the guards were attacking patrol markers that had the Thalmor faction still assigned to them (stupid, I know) as those were the only things in the area where they were attacking.

 

It should be impossible for that issue to happen ever again, in that case. A patrol marker, of all things! 

Posted

Since I'm asking questions I might as well ask one more: I usually RP good characters who are at best disinterested in sex (at least in early game) and who definitely wouldn't knowingly help someone be enslaved. So it's pretty immersion breaking when that character responds to a job offer, only to find out that it involves helping a Jarl enslave someone, without any dialogue options to refuse the quest or at least tell the Jarl he's doing something wrong. Are there any plans for an alternate to this quest? Even if the character is threatened or somehow forced to assist, or punished if she refuses, it would be a little better.

 

Especially THAT Jarl, of all the douchebag Jarls...I'd sooner help enslave someone for Maven.  At least, with her, she may only value people for what they can do for her...but I get the feeling that Siddgeir doesn't place any value at all on people that aren't him.

 

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to receive an urgent letter telling me to go directly to Falkreath and...inquire into the health and welfare of Nenya...and to take whatever steps necessary to insure her continued safety and security...if not her comfort.

Posted

After the Thalmor Embassy quest, all Thalmor soldiers/guards turned friendly to me.

It's sometimes immersion breaking, especially on the two main quests: Diplomacy Immunity (infiltration) and Esborn's escort.

During the first quest I can walk all around the embassy and even talk with NPCs as if my PC is undercover (should only possible as elf, my PC is nord).

In the interrogation chamber, I attacked the guards in order to get the trap door key but they just ignored me and tried to kill poor defenseless Malborn. I don't want Malborn die, and I can't kill all of them at once either. At last I found an unsuccessful pickpocketing will pull the aggro and then got the key with Malborn unharmed.

Posted

 

 

I'm going to try this mod again, since it seems that you made further changes to the Embassy. I was having some trouble with the guards detecting something and breaking the progression on that quest some time ago, in case you don't remember.

 

Keeping my fingers crossed for this, I really want to get through all of the quests. 

 

Great work with the mod, in any case. I love it so far.

 

I believe it was an issue with the factions, all of the original Thalmor factions have been removed from everyone and everything. As it was, I think the guards were attacking patrol markers that had the Thalmor faction still assigned to them (stupid, I know) as those were the only things in the area where they were attacking.

 

It should be impossible for that issue to happen ever again, in that case. A patrol marker, of all things! 

 

 

I finally figured out the issue when the fighting happened in my game, by that point I had removed the Thalmor factions from everyone so it was rather odd that there would be anything for them to attack. Looking at the areas where they were attacking in the CK I found a patrol marker still set and cleaned them all out and that stopped the fighting in my game.I guess the souls of dead Thalmor were still wandering their posts.

 

 

 

Since I'm asking questions I might as well ask one more: I usually RP good characters who are at best disinterested in sex (at least in early game) and who definitely wouldn't knowingly help someone be enslaved. So it's pretty immersion breaking when that character responds to a job offer, only to find out that it involves helping a Jarl enslave someone, without any dialogue options to refuse the quest or at least tell the Jarl he's doing something wrong. Are there any plans for an alternate to this quest? Even if the character is threatened or somehow forced to assist, or punished if she refuses, it would be a little better.

 

Especially THAT Jarl, of all the douchebag Jarls...I'd sooner help enslave someone for Maven.  At least, with her, she may only value people for what they can do for her...but I get the feeling that Siddgeir doesn't place any value at all on people that aren't him.

 

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to receive an urgent letter telling me to go directly to Falkreath and...inquire into the health and welfare of Nenya...and to take whatever steps necessary to insure her continued safety and security...if not her comfort.

 

 

There will be something that happens to him later, don't worry.

 

 

After the Thalmor Embassy quest, all Thalmor soldiers/guards turned friendly to me.

It's sometimes immersion breaking, especially on the two main quests: Diplomacy Immunity (infiltration) and Esborn's escort.

During the first quest I can walk all around the embassy and even talk with NPCs as if my PC is undercover (should only possible as elf, my PC is nord).

In the interrogation chamber, I attacked the guards in order to get the trap door key but they just ignored me and tried to kill poor defenseless Malborn. I don't want Malborn die, and I can't kill all of them at once either. At last I found an unsuccessful pickpocketing will pull the aggro and then got the key with Malborn unharmed.

 

Remove yourself from the Thalmor faction: player.addtofaction 39f26 -1  will remove you from it. At the start of the Embassy quest I set the player to be friendly with the Thalmor otherwise the guards outside would attack the player when you arrive. It is supposed to check your faction rank and restore it at the end of the quest but it seems to be having some issues still.

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