Taki17 Posted May 27, 2025 Author Posted May 27, 2025 19 minutes ago, sleepnoneed said: I'm not sure if this is normal: the bandit keeps attacking me (with his axe)，even after I kneel down and my armor was stripped off I can assure you that's absolutely not normal, however I suspect it has to do with a missing/incorrect requirement: a function from Scrab's Papyrus Extender is used to calm attackers for the duration of scenes, so do check if it's installed!  If it is, and the problem still persists, I'm going to need a papyrus log.
sleepnoneed Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 (edited) On 5/28/2025 at 5:04 AM, Taki17 said: I can assure you that's absolutely not normal, however I suspect it has to do with a missing/incorrect requirement: a function from Scrab's Papyrus Extender is used to calm attackers for the duration of scenes, so do check if it's installed!  If it is, and the problem still persists, I'm going to need a papyrus log.  Thanks! Problem solved! I confused powerofthree's Papyrus Extender with Scrab's Papyrus Extender😂 Now I installed Scrab's Papyrus Extender and everything worked fine! Thank you for answering my stupid question!😇 Edited May 29, 2025 by sleepnoneed
sheen223 Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 using the latest DD NG (0.4.0) and I'm getting the "this is an unsupported integration version" is it still going to work? Also how do i check if SPID is working correctly for the mod?
sheen223 Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 On 5/28/2025 at 1:28 PM, sleepnoneed said:  Thanks! Problem solved! I confused powerofthree's Papyrus Extender with Scrab's Papyrus Extender😂 Now I installed Scrab's Papyrus Extender and everything worked fine! Thank you for answering my stupid question!😇 do these extenders conflict with each other at all?
Taki17 Posted June 2, 2025 Author Posted June 2, 2025 14 minutes ago, sheen223 said: using the latest DD NG (0.4.0) and I'm getting the "this is an unsupported integration version" is it still going to work? What is the popup telling you? The latest version should tell version 14, if you are using something older, you will get this popup. Â 15 minutes ago, sheen223 said: Also how do i check if SPID is working correctly for the mod? If you have some way of checking keywords on references ingame, see if an actor that should be applicable has the 'WD_Rapist' keyword. Otherwise, try and see if the mod is working as intended by approaching some bandits while... properly attired. Â 12 minutes ago, sheen223 said: do these extenders conflict with each other at all? They should not, I use both of them together without any issues whatsoever.
sheen223 Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 1 hour ago, Taki17 said: What is the popup telling you? The latest version should tell version 14, if you are using something older, you will get this popup. Â If you have some way of checking keywords on references ingame, see if an actor that should be applicable has the 'WD_Rapist' keyword. Otherwise, try and see if the mod is working as intended by approaching some bandits while... properly attired. Â They should not, I use both of them together without any issues whatsoever. pop up is saying that the version is reading 0.0000 and i don't know why
sheen223 Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 1 hour ago, Taki17 said: What is the popup telling you? The latest version should tell version 14, if you are using something older, you will get this popup. Â If you have some way of checking keywords on references ingame, see if an actor that should be applicable has the 'WD_Rapist' keyword. Otherwise, try and see if the mod is working as intended by approaching some bandits while... properly attired. Â They should not, I use both of them together without any issues whatsoever. pop up is saying that the version is reading 0.0000 and i don't know why
Taki17 Posted June 3, 2025 Author Posted June 3, 2025 17 hours ago, sheen223 said: pop up is saying that the version is reading 0.0000 and i don't know why Sort out your DD install. This shouldn't happen if all scripts of it are properly in place.
sheen223 Posted June 3, 2025 Posted June 3, 2025 1 hour ago, Taki17 said: Sort out your DD install. This shouldn't happen if all scripts of it are properly in place. rechecked my dd download and it looks all correct. Testing shows that the NPCs are indeed acting out when i wear arm binders. is it okay to just ignore the warning? of does the warning disable stuff?
Taki17 Posted June 4, 2025 Author Posted June 4, 2025 16 hours ago, sheen223 said: is it okay to just ignore the warning? of does the warning disable stuff? Nothing is disabled, but of course I can't just tell you that it's "okay to ignore the warning" because there is some reason why it's happening... so I cannot guarantee the rest of the mod will work fine.
TimmyTheGreat Posted June 11, 2025 Posted June 11, 2025 Hi. I can't run the mod. There is no option in MSM and all I could find in the logs is a line in DeviousDevicesNG.log: Â '[DeviceReader.cpp:61] Skipping mod DHLP_Redux.esp because is it disabled' Â I use MO2. I installed all the required mods and libraries, started a new game, tried disabling all mods except the required ones - the result is the same: everything works except this one. I would be very grateful if someone could explain to me at least what could disable the mod during initialization, besides exceeding the mod budget and problems with SSE Engine Fixes (which I don't have). Thankyou. modlist.txt
Taki17 Posted June 11, 2025 Author Posted June 11, 2025 1 hour ago, TimmyTheGreat said: what could disable the mod during initialization Pretty sure it's a missing hard dependency, like one or more plugins of DD not being active. Also, you are running an outdated version of DDNG. Otherwise, this mod list is not telling much more, a load order might.
TimmyTheGreat Posted June 12, 2025 Posted June 12, 2025 21 hours ago, Taki17 said: Pretty sure it's a missing hard dependency, like one or more plugins of DD not being active. Also, you are running an outdated version of DDNG. Otherwise, this mod list is not telling much more, a load order might. Thankyou.
ss7961 Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 On 6/11/2025 at 11:58 PM, TimmyTheGreat said: Hi. I can't run the mod. There is no option in MSM and all I could find in the logs is a line in DeviousDevicesNG.log:  '[DeviceReader.cpp:61] Skipping mod DHLP_Redux.esp because is it disabled'  I use MO2. I installed all the required mods and libraries, started a new game, tried disabling all mods except the required ones - the result is the same: everything works except this one. I would be very grateful if someone could explain to me at least what could disable the mod during initialization, besides exceeding the mod budget and problems with SSE Engine Fixes (which I don't have). Thankyou. modlist.txt 4.58 kB · 5 downloads I had the same issue. After installing the Backported Extended ESL Support (available on Nexus), the mod started working properly. Without this plugin, DIN wouldn't work either. I suggest @Taki17 adds this point to the installation guide. Thanks!
Taki17 Posted June 20, 2025 Author Posted June 20, 2025 40 minutes ago, ss7961 said: Backported Extended ESL Support Only if you are, for whatever reason, not using the latest version of the game.
oddly.mistaken Posted July 10, 2025 Posted July 10, 2025 (edited) Havent been able to start a scene with DHLP_Redux. Pick a Devious Start and run up to a bandit. Get proper Dialogue and then character drops and get the notification failed to start scene  Spoiler [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp83" stack:    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sslActorLibrary.ValidateActor() - "sslActorLibrary.psc" Line 452    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sexlabframework.ValidateActor() - "vqdzpfmeubtduuqpkdr" Line 299    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.GetActors() - "WD_util.psc" Line 480    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.StartPlayerRape() - "WD_util.psc" Line 555    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.OnUpdate() - "WD_util.psc" Line ? [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] [SexLab] ValidateActor(Bandit Chief) -- FALSE -- They are possibly a creature but creature animations are currently disabled [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] [Helpless]: Actor list done. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] [Helpless]: No more valid actors, ending scene [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] ================================================================================= [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] [Helpless]|ERROR|: Tried to start scene, but initial GetActors() Returned nothing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] ================================================================================= [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] [Helpless]: StopSceneAndClear() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] [Helpless]: Cleared Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] [Helpless]: 0 followers to clear. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] [Zad-NG]: EnableEventProcessing() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:38PM] [Helpless]: End state SceneRunning [07/10/2025 - 12:46:39PM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:39PM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - start scan at 1336.084106 [07/10/2025 - 12:46:39PM] [Butterflies Unchained] One or more of your mods adds a butterfly that requires a compatibility patch for optimal performance. You may encounter hovering butterflies in the meantime. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - GetAllActors - scanned 2 local actors [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - GetAllActors(2) - end scan at 1336.084106 = 0.645996 seconds [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - got 2 actors [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(HandMaid, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 56.250000) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] [Butterflies Unchained] One or more of your mods adds a butterfly that requires a compatibility patch for optimal performance. You may encounter hovering butterflies in the meantime. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Whiterun Guard, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Whiterun Guard, Timed Cycle, 3, 6.283180) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - GroupEffects(Whiterun Guard, $SLA_Effect_Timed, Timed Cycle) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Whiterun Guard, $SLA_Effect_Naked, 2, 1200.000000) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Bandit Chief, $SLA_Effect_Timed, 2, 12.500000) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Bandit Chief, Timed Cycle, 3, 6.283180) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - GroupEffects(Bandit Chief, $SLA_Effect_Timed, Timed Cycle) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - SetTimedEffect(Bandit Chief, $SLA_Effect_Naked, 2, 600.000000) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(HandMaid) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Whiterun Guard) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:40PM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(Bandit Chief) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:41PM] [DIN] INFO - Added to the list of last talked to people: Whiterun Guard [07/10/2025 - 12:46:42PM] [Zad-NG]: UpdateControls() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:43PM] [Butterflies Unchained] One or more of your mods adds a butterfly that requires a compatibility patch for optimal performance. You may encounter hovering butterflies in the meantime. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:45PM] [Butterflies Unchained] One or more of your mods adds a butterfly that requires a compatibility patch for optimal performance. You may encounter hovering butterflies in the meantime. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:45PM] Error: Attempting to manipulate variable "::NoneVar" was not successfully looked up stack:    [Active effect 12 on  (00000014)].BFCO_FX_CheckPreAttackIsOK.OnEffectStart() - "BFCO_FX_CheckPreAttackIsOK" Line 5 [07/10/2025 - 12:46:45PM] Error: Attempting to manipulate variable "::NoneVar" was not successfully looked up stack:    [Active effect 12 on  (00000014)].BFCO_FX_CheckPreAttackIsOK.OnEffectStart() - "BFCO_FX_CheckPreAttackIsOK" Line 6 [07/10/2025 - 12:46:46PM] [Helpless]: Someone attacked one of the bandits, clearing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:46PM] [Helpless]: ClearSelf() for Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:47PM] [Helpless]: Someone attacked one of the bandits, clearing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:47PM] [Helpless]: ClearSelf() for Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:47PM] [Helpless]: Someone attacked one of the bandits, clearing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:47PM] [Helpless]: ClearSelf() for Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Helpless]: Someone attacked one of the bandits, clearing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Helpless]: ClearSelf() for Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Butterflies Unchained] One or more of your mods adds a butterfly that requires a compatibility patch for optimal performance. You may encounter hovering butterflies in the meantime. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] SLAX - ModEffectValue(HandMaid, $SLA_Effect_Legacy, 2.000000, 100.000000) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] SLAX - UpdateArousal(HandMaid) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Helpless]: Someone attacked one of the bandits, clearing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Helpless]: ClearSelf() for Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Helpless]: OnEffectStart(bandit, HandMaid) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Helpless]: AddRapist() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Zad-NG]: OnSpellCast() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Helpless]: Player wearing a device with keyword [Keyword <zad_DeviousHeavyBondage (2105226C)>] [07/10/2025 - 12:46:49PM] [Zad-NG]: Player is in combat while trying to cast spell: Applying magicka penalty. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:50PM] [Helpless]: bandit slotted. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:50PM] [Helpless]: bandit has a key! [07/10/2025 - 12:46:50PM] [Zad-NG]: UpdateControls() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:51PM] [Zad-NG]: OnSpellCast() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:52PM] [Helpless]: Someone attacked one of the bandits, clearing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:52PM] [Helpless]: ClearSelf() for Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:52PM] [Helpless]: OnUpdate() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:52PM] [Helpless]: Someone attacked one of the bandits, clearing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:52PM] [Helpless]: ClearSelf() for Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:52PM] [Zad-NG]: OnSpellCast() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:52PM] [Helpless]: Starting scene [07/10/2025 - 12:46:52PM] [Helpless]: Begin state SceneRunning [07/10/2025 - 12:46:53PM] [Helpless]: Someone attacked one of the bandits, clearing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:53PM] [Helpless]: ClearSelf() for Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:53PM] [Helpless]: Someone attacked one of the bandits, clearing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:53PM] [Helpless]: ClearSelf() for Bandit Chief [07/10/2025 - 12:46:53PM] [Zad-NG]: OnSpellCast() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:54PM] [Zad-NG]: OnSpellCast() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] [Helpless]: Attackers close enough, starting scene [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] [Helpless]: StartPlayerRape() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] [Helpless]: GetActors(HandMaid) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] [Helpless]: Found 1 actors [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] [Helpless]: Building actor list (HandMaid) [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] Error: Argument variable "::config_var" was not successfully looked up stack:    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sslActorLibrary.ValidateActor() - "sslActorLibrary.psc" Line 441    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sexlabframework.ValidateActor() - "vqdzpfmeubtduuqpkdr" Line 299    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.GetActors() - "WD_util.psc" Line 480    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.StartPlayerRape() - "WD_util.psc" Line 555    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.OnUpdate() - "WD_util.psc" Line ? [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] Error: Argument variable "::PlayerRef_var" was not successfully looked up stack:    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sslActorLibrary.ValidateActor() - "sslActorLibrary.psc" Line 447    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sexlabframework.ValidateActor() - "vqdzpfmeubtduuqpkdr" Line 299    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.GetActors() - "WD_util.psc" Line 480    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.StartPlayerRape() - "WD_util.psc" Line 555    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.OnUpdate() - "WD_util.psc" Line ? [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] Error: Argument variable "::config_var" was not successfully looked up stack:    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sslActorLibrary.ValidateActor() - "sslActorLibrary.psc" Line 452    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sexlabframework.ValidateActor() - "vqdzpfmeubtduuqpkdr" Line 299    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.GetActors() - "WD_util.psc" Line 480    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.StartPlayerRape() - "WD_util.psc" Line 555    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.OnUpdate() - "WD_util.psc" Line ? [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] Error: Cannot call AllowCreatures() on a None object, aborting function call stack:    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sslActorLibrary.ValidateActor() - "sslActorLibrary.psc" Line 452    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sexlabframework.ValidateActor() - "vqdzpfmeubtduuqpkdr" Line 299    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.GetActors() - "WD_util.psc" Line 480    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.StartPlayerRape() - "WD_util.psc" Line 555    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.OnUpdate() - "WD_util.psc" Line ? [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp83" stack:    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sslActorLibrary.ValidateActor() - "sslActorLibrary.psc" Line 452    [SexLabQuestFramework (1D000D62)].sexlabframework.ValidateActor() - "vqdzpfmeubtduuqpkdr" Line 299    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.GetActors() - "WD_util.psc" Line 480    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.StartPlayerRape() - "WD_util.psc" Line 555    [WD_Main (FE25DD62)].wd_util.OnUpdate() - "WD_util.psc" Line ? [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] [SexLab] ValidateActor(bandit) -- FALSE -- They are possibly a creature but creature animations are currently disabled [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] [Helpless]: Actor list done. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:56PM] [Helpless]: No more valid actors, ending scene [07/10/2025 - 12:46:57PM] ================================================================================= [07/10/2025 - 12:46:57PM] [Helpless]|ERROR|: Tried to start scene, but initial GetActors() Returned nothing. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:57PM] ================================================================================= [07/10/2025 - 12:46:57PM] [Helpless]: StopSceneAndClear() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:57PM] [Helpless]: Cleared bandit [07/10/2025 - 12:46:57PM] [Butterflies Unchained] One or more of your mods adds a butterfly that requires a compatibility patch for optimal performance. You may encounter hovering butterflies in the meantime. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:57PM] [Helpless]: 0 followers to clear. [07/10/2025 - 12:46:57PM] [Zad-NG]: EnableEventProcessing() [07/10/2025 - 12:46:57PM] [Helpless]: End state SceneRunning [07/10/2025 - 12:46:58PM] [Zad-NG]: UpdateControls() [07/10/2025 - 12:47:02PM] VM is freezing... [07/10/2025 - 12:47:02PM] VM is frozen [07/10/2025 - 12:47:02PM] Saving game... [07/10/2025 - 12:47:02PM] VM is thawing... Spoiler   Edited July 11, 2025 by oddly.mistaken Missed some data
Taki17 Posted July 11, 2025 Author Posted July 11, 2025 18 hours ago, oddly.mistaken said: Havent been able to start a scene with DHLP_Redux. Looks to be a SexLab install issue I think. If you are unable to start any sex scenes from any mod, that'd confirm it. Â And put that log under a spoiler tag because it makes scrolling the page a nightmare.
oddly.mistaken Posted July 11, 2025 Posted July 11, 2025 (edited) 9 hours ago, Taki17 said: Looks to be a SexLab install issue I think. If you are unable to start any sex scenes from any mod, that'd confirm it. Â And put that log under a spoiler tag because it makes scrolling the page a nightmare. done, and i dont have any issues starting scenes with alternative methods. just DHLP Â ** disabling creatures and changing what is in hands when attacks happen seems to have fixed the issue Edited July 11, 2025 by oddly.mistaken
Taki17 Posted July 12, 2025 Author Posted July 12, 2025 23 hours ago, oddly.mistaken said: ** disabling creatures and changing what is in hands when attacks happen seems to have fixed the issue I haven't an answer for you yet as to why, but the actors are being detected as non-recognized races and some are even missing the ActorTypeNPC keyword? That's why they are failing validation to be allowed in scenes.
Fraying9981 Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 (edited) What's the point of this mod if without it you are defeated with the same outcome anyway? I mean, in most cases you play with a defeat mod right? So: - with the mod: bandits chase you to fuck you and rob you - without the mod: bandits attack you, defeat you, fuck you and rob you  Therefore I guess the point is just to skip combat?  I don't mean to be rude, I'm just wondering if I am missing something fundamental (and I did try the mod, it works great) Edited August 4, 2025 by Fraying9981
Taki17 Posted August 4, 2025 Author Posted August 4, 2025 26 minutes ago, Fraying9981 said: I mean, in most cases you play with a defeat mod right? I certainly don't. Â 27 minutes ago, Fraying9981 said: Therefore I guess the point is just to skip combat? In a sense. Think of it as an alternative that makes it so that a bound and helpless player is not not beaten to an inch of her life first - because there is no need to, and the attackers just skip to the rest because the player cannot defend herself anyway. Kinda makes more sense in context.
Fraying9981 Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 1 minute ago, Taki17 said: I certainly don't. Â In a sense. Think of it as an alternative that makes it so that a bound and helpless player is not not beaten to an inch of her life first - because there is no need to, and the attackers just skip to the rest because the player cannot defend herself anyway. Kinda makes more sense in context. Â Thanks for your reply! I understand better now. Agree with you it makes more sense not to fight if player has devices on them. Do you support ZaZ devices such has backside arm cuffs? = is it included in arm bindings/arm cuffs? Â Asking this because it seems to me that leg cuffs/arm cuffs dont do much in DD - they look like ornaments most of the time I used them (as opposed to the armbinder which does something)
Nimfeolaiocht Posted August 20, 2025 Posted August 20, 2025 This mod came out recently which seems to have a small conflict. Any thoughts on if we need a small patch for it? Or should it be fine? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/156032
Taki17 Posted August 24, 2025 Author Posted August 24, 2025 On 8/21/2025 at 1:50 AM, Nimfeolaiocht said: Any thoughts on if we need a small patch for it? Absolutely needs it, otherwise I cannot guarantee it'll function as intended.
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