(WiP) A prostitution and player slavery mod 0.10.2c

[Tensu_Makadi]

 

Your idea with the higher payment by wearing a more luxury outfit sounds really nice. Currently the payment is based on your SexLab skill alone. Maybe a combination of both will be implemented. What I don't want to do is making the payment based on time. Personally I don't want to force the player to watch the full sex scenes everytime to receive the max payment.

That said, suggestions for payment formulas are always welcome too, so if we see that people are okay with time-based payments, it also will be considered.

 

 

First thanks Heromaster for answering my question and to Sapience for trying though you didn't seem to understand what I was asking.

 

Now as for the part of the quote up there might I recommend an MCM option to turn on or off payment based on time for those who think the old saying time is money saying should apply to this also? I don't know how hard it would be to implement but maybe an MCM option to switch between payment based on skill another option based on skill and time and yet another option based on skill time and appearances?

[Silbert]

I have an issue with 2 girls while becoming a whore. After an oral sex with 1 of them there is no continuation. They do not offer anything else, no options in dialogs with them & i have no option to report innkeeper about progress. I started the quest in banned mare/

[nameless701]

I have an issue with 2 girls while becoming a whore. After an oral sex with 1 of them there is no continuation. They do not offer anything else, no options in dialogs with them & i have no option to report innkeeper about progress. I started the quest in banned mare/

 

This Mod ends here...wait for Update

[Otaku21]

 

I really think that the current tavern wench outfit should be the whore's outfit, and a much more mundane outfit should be found to be the tavern wench outfit that more closely matches the outfits worn by the current tavern wenches. I can't see an innkeeper giving some random dirt poor girl she just met such a luxurious dress with multiple heavy gold bracelets that together were all easily worth way more than the tavern wench could possibly hope to make in multiple years simply so the poor girl could walk to serve drinks

 

I think the key considerations when choosing the outfits should not be whether the whore's outfit is sexy but rather whether it appropriate considering the effective period that the game is taking place in (the fall of the Roman Empire) and the fact that H. is still running the tavern as a respectable tavern where all the town's people (from Jurls all the way to farmers) to congregate after a hard day's labor and not a baudy whorehouse where all the girls are running around naked. After all you are the only whore in the establishment, I'd imagine that she wants you to look as expensive as possible to get the best price from each of your johns so she wants to dress you up luxuriantly and not trampishly. H. would especially love it if Jurls and other noblemen/noblewomen from all over the land traveled to her tavern to sleep with you (maybe even the Emperor if you develop a large enough reputation!!!).

 

The problem as I see it with everyone searching for a replacement outfit is that there are so many different types of prostitutes and we are each thinking that this mod is calling for a different type of prostitute. And judging by the way that the first part of this mod has played out, it actually seems to be built to actually result in turning the character into a different type of prostitute depending on how you act (ex: by always refusing sex and dancing the first two days, by serving food plus dancing but refusing sex, by serving food dancing and offering sex to only the most well to do customers and cleaning yourself up after each client, by by serving food dancing and offering sex to only the most well to do customers and not cleaning yourself up, etc.).

 

The only viable solution is to have multiple different whore outfits and have the game decide which one the player receives based on how the mod has judged their actions.

 

You have some fantastic ideas, I like that. When I created the summary dialogue I was sitting more than 2 weeks and scratching my head, how to implement the dialogue paths and covering what the player has done while he was serving the tables. I think the outcome is now okay, but still not the way I really wanted to do it (Sometimes the transitions from one evaluating path to the next one are not smoothly enough especially when you have done the second day, imho).

 

Your idea with the higher payment by wearing a more luxury outfit sounds really nice. Currently the payment is based on your SexLab skill alone. Maybe a combination of both will be implemented. What I don't want to do is making the payment based on time. Personally I don't want to force the player to watch the full sex scenes everytime to receive the max payment.

That said, suggestions for payment formulas are always welcome too, so if we see that people are okay with time-based payments, it also will be considered.  

 

We had almost the same discussion about the wench outfit a few days ago. CGi also has the opinion that it would be more fitting when you are actually starting as a whore. We will take that now again in consideration. Changing the outfits will probably not make it into the next update. This gives us more time to consider all of the suggestions the people made here.

 

 

Thank you all people for your suggestions, discussions and ideas. It is really nice to see, what you think and what you would like to see being implemented.

 

for the player to watch to full sex scenes, what a MCM on that, if the player wants or has to watch the full for pay, some players do like lure and theings to take time, like if there doing someing

[Ellisande]

Personally I don't want to force the player to watch the full sex scenes everytime to receive the max payment.

That said, suggestions for payment formulas are always welcome too, so if we see that people are okay with time-based payments, it also will be considered.  

 

 

That actually isn't a huge problem because if the player wants they can just spacebar through all the sex scenes. With the spacebarring having sex will take less time than getting and fulfilling a customer's order and presents the player with much less risk for an even higher reward as there is no chance the player is going to get the order wrong that way.

 

Of course it doesn't have to be every, it could I think be as simple as 3-5 options (based on values).

If player has no sex +1

if player has sex +1

If player washes themself +1

If player doesn't wash themself +1

If player has sex with the homeless who can't actually afford to pay them +1 (I don't know if this was intended to give the charity buff but if does. This is actually viewed 2 different ways in 2 different book series. In The Sword of Truth Series, someone being willing to give their body over to use by the homeless is thought to not value themseles which leads them on the path to accepting and allowing evil whereas in Jacqueling Carey's novels having sex with the homeless is considered a saintly act as their main religious figure was thought to have been made into a saint by having sex with the homeless).

 

But I'm really glad that we are on the same eye level

[Alliere]

love the mod so far can't wait till further progress is done

 

[squall1151]

this is a realy good mod, there a lot to it I like the serving of food, very thort out. have ran into a problem tho here it is.

 

 

 

not even sure if this is a spoiler just making sure. any way I tried this once and I did

the serving food ect and I got to the point where I was evaluated as it went though that part

with the. I thank you. bit it said at the end. One last question did my guests treat you well. at 1st I had this bit working fine 

with the rest of the convo working fine.    Now after I get the did my guests treat you well, part it keeps

repeating itself and she keeps paying me for the same shift.

      

 

 

 

[WrythePhokas]

Had a run-through. No big problems (once I figured out that I had to wear the boots as well as the wench outfit). Looking forward to the next step. 

[Heromaster]

That actually isn't a huge problem because if the player wants they can just spacebar through all the sex scenes. With the spacebarring having sex will take less time than getting and fulfilling a customer's order and presents the player with much less risk for an even higher reward as there is no chance the player is going to get the order wrong that way.

 

Of course it doesn't have to be every, it could I think be as simple as 3-5 options (based on values).

If player has no sex +1

if player has sex +1

If player washes themself +1

If player doesn't wash themself +1

If player has sex with the homeless who can't actually afford to pay them +1 (I don't know if this was intended to give the charity buff but if does. This is actually viewed 2 different ways in 2 different book series. In The Sword of Truth Series, someone being willing to give their body over to use by the homeless is thought to not value themseles which leads them on the path to accepting and allowing evil whereas in Jacqueling Carey's novels having sex with the homeless is considered a saintly act as their main religious figure was thought to have been made into a saint by having sex with the homeless).

 

But I'm really glad that we are on the same eye level

 

The gift of charity is on purpose. If you examine the buff closely you might see a difference. You helped someone who otherwise wouldn't get such a favor. For that act of humanity you get a bonus (Actually you get three. One bonus you might have gotten already and the other one is not implemented yet but he/she will talk about it). Congrats, you found one of the bonus things

 

this is a realy good mod, there a lot to it I like the serving of food, very thort out. have ran into a problem tho here it is.

 

 

 

not even sure if this is a spoiler just making sure. any way I tried this once and I did

the serving food ect and I got to the point where I was evaluated as it went though that part

with the. I thank you. bit it said at the end. One last question did my guests treat you well. at 1st I had this bit working fine 

with the rest of the convo working fine.    Now after I get the did my guests treat you well, part it keeps

repeating itself and she keeps paying me for the same shift.

      

Sorry, this is a known bug. I hope we have it finally fixed in the next update.

[Kakurine222]

Someone may have answered this. But what is the id of the quest exactly?

 

I failed it on one of my characters and is she won;t give me the option to try it again.  Other then reloading files is there a way I can get the quest to restart?  I'm getting my other characters to work but my main one wasn't working right.

 

I need a way to restart it.  Or will it reset eventually on its own?

 

Huh and one of my characters will not go into sneak mode now?  WTH.

 

How long precisely do you have to work in the game to complete the first quest?

[lunpokguy]

Cant exactly get this mod started. Hulda doesn't offer me any new dialogue, any suggestions?

[Tensu_Makadi]

Someone may have answered this. But what is the id of the quest exactly?

 

I failed it on one of my characters and is she won;t give me the option to try it again.  Other then reloading files is there a way I can get the quest to restart?  I'm getting my other characters to work but my main one wasn't working right.

 

I need a way to restart it.  Or will it reset eventually on its own?

 

Huh and one of my characters will not go into sneak mode now?  WTH.

 

How long precisely do you have to work in the game to complete the first quest?

 

I could be wrong but isn't there an option to fix your problem in the MCM?

[Heromaster]

Someone may have answered this. But what is the id of the quest exactly?

 

I failed it on one of my characters and is she won;t give me the option to try it again.  Other then reloading files is there a way I can get the quest to restart?  I'm getting my other characters to work but my main one wasn't working right.

 

I need a way to restart it.  Or will it reset eventually on its own?

 

Huh and one of my characters will not go into sneak mode now?  WTH.

 

How long precisely do you have to work in the game to complete the first quest?

 

I have written in the OP that you should not use this mod on your main gameplay profile. Until it reached a stable build I won't recommend it. If you failed the quest, there is currently no way to start it again. Sneak mode is disabled as long as you working as a waiter/waitress. This is currently a workaround to prevent some issues with the NPC's when you try to steal from them.

 

On medium settings a shift lasts 8 hours in game. To have a chance to complete the quest, working for half the shift time is expected. You can set the values in the MCM config menu to better fit your needs.

 

Cant exactly get this mod started. Hulda doesn't offer me any new dialogue, any suggestions?

 

Did you activated the mod while in the Bannered Mare? If so, leave the Bannered Mare and reenter it. That will start the quest and you should be able to talk with Hulda.

 

[Kakurine222]

I have written in the OP that you should not use this mod on your main gameplay profile. Until it reached a stable build I won't recommend it. If you failed the quest, there is currently no way to start it again. Sneak mode is disabled as long as you working as a waiter/waitress. This is currently a workaround to prevent some issues with the NPC's when you try to steal from them.

 

On medium settings a shift lasts 8 hours in game. To have a chance to complete the quest, working for half the shift time is expected. You can set the values in the MCM config menu to better fit your needs.

 

 

Ok, got everything up and working with a little tinkering and what you just told me.

 

I did notice that turning uninstalling and reinstalling seems to reset the quest.  Though that likely leaves broken scripts or something of the sort. But it seems to be working now and using the setting in mcm (individual difficulty) lets me make changes.  Sorry for asking an already asked question.  I figured you answered it somewhere but didn't want to spend hours hunting through text.

[Wolfoftheshadows]

This is a great, great mod. I wish that this and Radiant had a baby and it would be glorious. I love how this mod throws in some lore and you start off as just a normal tavern wench, but you get to choose to do more with your body. I like the back story of how you get there which I wish Radiant had, but radiant you can go out to people's homes and have the chance of having everything taken from you and you getting abused by some men who tricked you. Combined it would be a fantastic mod, but both are amazing mods by themselves. Great work, I hope you stick with it.

[Wolfoftheshadows]

Just as a side note I was able to get this installed and uninstall really easily with no problems, however I don't know if it's the mods I use or what, but when the two girls enter the room for my umm "test" their heads are a darker color like a redguard, but a very white milky colored body. It's not a huge deal and I just wanted to know if it was on my end or what.

[nameless701]

  read the first post

especially the warnings

 

This "mod" is the first stage of one quest from the planed Mod and not completely. Its only a test

 

[Wolfoftheshadows]

Only way to know if it's a bug or through the fault of your own is by speaking out about it.

[nameless701]

the Modder will test the gameplay,not the optic

[Kakurine222]

So from the warnings and other liens its a test atm.  So I have a separate file I am using with this mod to test it out.  Once the player has completed their work hours does it end and complete the quest automatically?  Or do I have to talk to the innkeeper?

 

I waited 3 hours of ingame time after I set the work shift to 2 hours.  The innkeeper said I did great.  But the quest didn't complete and it said something along the lines of she wasn't happy I stopped early and won't hire me again.  I assume something is happening that shouldn't here?

 

From other posts the mod currently ends when you are asked to go into a room for "special training".  But I'm not sure if its working right with the first quest.

 

Apoligies for likely asking the same questions that may have been answered.

[nameless701]

Thats the end of the first Stage from the first Quest...this Quest is on the End at this Time.You must wait for the Update.

[lunpokguy]

Cant exactly get this mod started. Hulda doesn't offer me any new dialogue, any suggestions?

 

Did you activated the mod while in the Bannered Mare? If so, leave the Bannered Mare and reenter it. That will start the quest and you should be able to talk with Hulda.

 

 

 

Yes, the mod is present in MCM. But the options under the General tab is greyed out. I checked console by typing sqv APPS_Controller and the 'Enabled' is labeled as 'No'. I tried typing startquest APPS_Controller, yet it's still not enabled and Hulda doesn't offer me any new dialogue. Tried deactivating all mods except the necessary ones for this mod yet I'm not having any luck. Any other suggestions I might need to try?

[Heromaster]

Please post your loadorder. Probably there is a mod conflicting with APPS.

[lunpokguy]

Please post your loadorder. Probably there is a mod conflicting with APPS.

 

 

 

 

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I have used BOSS as well and it hasn't work either. Not sure what's the issue.

[germanicus]

Hi, maybe someone else already answer on this question, but I have no time to search for it (sorry), but my game stuck when Hulda is evaluating my job. All is fine until line "Now tell me, did you had any problem with some guests..." (or something like that). Then she saying her common lines settled by game, but no further conversation about my job. Just three dots like this (...). When I press them, the game returns me back to the evaluation of the work and again, same problem.