[Wip] Intimacy Project

[nyaalich]

T!:  Not an issue, but an oddity.

 

Fired up the game for some PLAYING (*gasp!*  *shock!*).  Expertly managed to dive a starting love level from 50% down to 9%.  Did other stuff.  Reloaded the game later.  1st thing, I get "someone is staring at you legs."  Cool.  I got it 7 times when I was playing earlier (estimate).  But then, I get "Insult Female."  No sex was had with anyone via other mods, and I turned down the other DRL people that approached me.

 

Um...what?

[t3589]

@ Hal:  But none of these shouldn't prevent oral.  They're all half masks for that very purpose.  Or do you mean they will get some effect put on them if I don't do something first?

 

@nyaalich: That doesn't just happen because of jealousy.  It could also be low disposition.  ie. you disagreed somewhere along the line?  I'm not sure.  Were you walking around naked?

[nyaalich]

lol...no...wearing the same goddamned thing I had been wearing.

 

If by "disagreed," you mean "Hey...you just flirted with me so I'm going to flirt back...oh, now you're turned off.  BRB.  Looking for table."

[t3589]

Well that means they're complaining about something.  Not sure what.  Something could be broken.

[nyaalich]

I ended up saying "fuck it" and restarting after the insult since I hadn't made much progress on the quest that I had started when I reactivated DRL.  Didn't do that slow and patient thing with conversation.

[Gindur]

Hello,
First, sorry for my english is really bad, I know.
I have some problems with this mod, actually me nothing works.
Any NPC aproach on my PC (CAR 10 and sexy clothes) and I don't have  dialogue associated with this mod.
And the way of prostitute or i don't know how start it (When I talk to the inkeeper from Atomic Rush, the dialoge don't appear , even if I start the quest for this).
I made fresh save, uninstall the mod ... all I can think of.
Thanks and sorry for my english.

[nyaalich]

I can't speak to the prostitution quest, but have you tried equipping and unequipping the Little Black Book.

[Gindur]

I can't speak to the prostitution quest, but have you tried equipping and unequipping the Little Black Book.

 

Yes, i tried it

[t3589]

The prostitution hooks are not back in yet, you are probably thinking of the prototype.  If your save game still contains residue from the prototype, this mod will not work.  You might also make sure SexoutNG is up to date.

[nyaalich]

Or up to beta .85, since some people had problems with .84.

 

Clean save + installing the latest DRL.

[t3589]

A clean save won't cut it if you have a save that had the prototype loaded into it.  It will need to be a fresh game or at least a save that happened before you loaded the prototype.

[Gindur]

Ok, i will start a new game.

 

Thx!!!

[t3589]

@Gindur: No sweat.  Thanks for reporting it.  You never know.

 

Ok I fixed a bunch of things.  I'm finding them little by little.  These negative returns people are talking about, they aren't supposed to happen.  Please report them if you find them with details.  For example I just found one for sex.  NPC asked for sex (fool around), I returned fool around in agreement, and the NPC returned turn off.  Not cool.  Fixed that one.

 

If they happen like that within the same conversation, that is wrong wrong wrong!

 

On the other hand, if they exit the conversation then you start another conversation, and THEN they return negative for something they were positive about in the last conversation, that's something different.  Please don't report that.

[smth4nothin]

I've been mostly getting that with [Party] offers. Out of about a dozen times where I accepted, only one actually led to partying, one seemingly agreed but immediately went to bed (to be fair, it was kinda late and Doc Mitchell needed his sleep), and the rest got me the [Turn off] response. This happened with a couple recent versions in the 20140605-20140608 range, haven't tried the new one yet.

 

Thanks for the mod and keep up the good work!

[nyaalich]

What is supposed to happen when you're interrupted with "Get a room" during sex?  Happened while I was testing masturbation in the Bangatron!, and since my duration is currently 5 seconds, I actually couldn't find my body and then it ended.

 

Are stalkers supposed to appear during the day?  Don't know what time of day it was.  Sun was clearly out.  May find out later when I'm back in game.

[Halstrom]

I'm wondering if the "Get A Room" or "Insult Female" should perhaps have a companion check on them as my companions are constantly annoying me when I engage in sex with another companion infront of them, maybe a "Can I have some of that?" based on Lust

 

I can't remember if you use SCR but there is a continually updateing formlist in SCR containing all current companions including supported 3rd party ones, I think Prideslayer was looking at doing the same in Sexout, but not sure if he had or not.

[nyaalich]

And especially if you're sitting beside your companion in the middle of Freeside masturbating.  What?  Doesn't everyone do that?

 

On a serious note, the stalkers showed ~2:30 PM in the Strip (on one load) and in Freeside (before masturbating!) on the other load.

[t3589]

Get a room means they don't like either the fact that you're nude in public, or having sex in public, or both.  What should happen is they interrupt and stop sex, complain at you, then go on their way (and possibly start spreading rumors about you).  A female insult can happen for many reasons, but generally means they're unhappy with you.  Akin to calling you a bitch (or male insult 'jerk').

 

Another thing to remember is that this is not a harem poser.  If your other companions don't like it, they don't like it.  I'm not going to hand out a button that makes them like it.  Though I do plan on love triangles, with ways to persuade them to be OK with it.  Part of which is already in.  I also plan on expanding companion support later.

 

There is no time frame for stalkers.  Stalkers are sort of a different concept in this mod.  It's just a word to describe a group of attributes on the individual.  Stalkers are not determined by faction/alignment etc, but individually.  Think of stalkers as a personality profile, rather than a game mechanic.

 

Stalkers:

- Lack self control.

- Can become rapists.

- Can be managed/broken.

- Can employ you as pimps.

- Have sticky fingers generally.

- Gravitate towards dom sexually.

- Are generally misogynistic if male.

- Are generally gold diggers if female.

- Are ruled by their intense sexual desires.

- Have a twisted view of sexual relationships.

- Are bullies on the surface, but underneath are generally cowards.

- Are completely capable of an intimate relationship, including commitments.

- Can establish a sense of justification for their behavior, based on the actions of the PC.

- Respond to infidelity with extreme jealousy (when dissatisfied), and general indifference (when sated).

 

In short, these are not the stalkers of games past.

 

[Halstrom]

OK cool, I see what you are getting at, I was getting this effect in Docs bedroom, being a small house and companions just out in the hall was the problem, doc needs a door on his room, I'll have to leave the companions outside of docs house from now on

[t3589]

OK cool, I see what you are getting at, I was getting this effect in Docs bedroom, being a small house and companions just out in the hall was the problem, doc needs a door on his room, I'll have to leave the companions outside of docs house from now on

 

You have a point though. I thought I had it detection based, but I guess if they can hear you it's on. lol

 

Kind of difficult to hide in a small house.  You go somewhere with someone.  They go into the bedroom with another person, leaving you alone in the living room.  I mean really, how dumb would you have to be not to get the picture? lol

 

The point is... If you think you should have gotten away with it, by all means speak up.   I'll look over the conditions and see if it needs adjusting.

[t3589]

I've been mostly getting that with [Party] offers. Out of about a dozen times where I accepted, only one actually led to partying, one seemingly agreed but immediately went to bed (to be fair, it was kinda late and Doc Mitchell needed his sleep), and the rest got me the [Turn off] response. This happened with a couple recent versions in the 20140605-20140608 range, haven't tried the new one yet.

 

Thanks for the mod and keep up the good work!

 

I think this has been fixed.  Try the latest one.

 

Thanks for reporting it.

 

[t3589]

Update in the OP.  Now respects both gay and bisexual SexoutNG MCM settings.

 

SexoutNG MCM Settings:

Straight = Default

Bisexual = 1/5 NPC population will also be bisexual.

Gay = 1/5 NPC population will also be gay.

 

You may want to start a fresh game or reset NPCs by excluding them and then including them again.  This doesn't take effect retroactively, and must be established when the NPCs are first run thru the system. ie. Any NPCs that are already established as incompatible orientation in a save game will remain so.

[jaam]

You know there are also sexual preference lists in SexoutNG ?

[t3589]

Yes but I'm not sure how they are populated.  Last I checked it determines orientation from the setting by applying a flat random.  I don't want that broad of an inclusion.  At least, that's what I established way back when.  Honestly I'm not up to date on how it works currently.  I wouldn't mind using it.

 

Frankly, I resent putting random orientations in.  But I do see it as a necessary evil if I'm going to allow male prostitution (they'll need customers).  ie. If I dropped male prostitution, I would also drop this feature.

[Halstrom]

Actually random sexual orientation on each restart of a mod like this could make things very interesting, at least if applied to any actors with unconfirmed orientation, even those confirmed ones could move a notch one way or the other from Gay to Bi, or Bi to Straight/Gay