t3589 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 lol I still need to go through and add back all the exclusions. Will peg anders and the other cross victims down and post an update. Sorry.
nyaalich Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 No no. Not at all. I got a marvelous laugh out of it. : D
t3589 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 Too late. Update now has nearly all of the exclusions the prototype had. Let me know if you find any that need to be excluded or removed from the exclusion list?
threeddd33 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Mother. Fucking. Hilarious. You know Anders? The Great Khans drug runner that's crucified at Cottonwood Cove? Interested in me. Crucifiction? Evidently not such a big deal after all. Sounds like a NVSE version of a Sam Kinison routine: "Maybe we could go on a date if you'd get your ass up here with a ladder and a pair of fucking pliers!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMM8KMBNNDw
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I did go up to him (because...how could I not?), and he just started conversation as if I had triggered it normally. "Get me down from here." Mmm-hmm. Typical man only after one thing. I can see right through him. He knows I've got the decrucifixion mod.
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Charon is still being an undecipherable dick. I get "giving you the stink eye", the insult, and when I check the console, it just says "complaint acquired". Doesn't say the cause.
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 My current appeal base is 37 (don't know how the fuck that's possible...glasses science...hat armor...dress sexy and short skirt, but come on...37? O.o). Had at least 5 Legion hit on me...another stinkeye/insult. No more info in the console.
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Whoa! "Trudy seems a little different!" It's like you're psychic, except that you coded this and know how it works! ; ) (No. I'm not drinking and playing and steam overlaying. ) I was wondering what in the hell you were talking about.
t3589 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Check the console more often. It printed more before complaint acquired, but it probably happened a few minutes before the complaint was launched. FYI, it's disposition that's causing that one. Now if we can catch the other console spam it printed before that, we can figure out why his disposition is lowering. Seems a little different means they've changed (usually when an incompatible nudges a little bit more towards bi, but can also mean they're inhibitions are changing too).
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Huh. Interesting. I decided to check out what [Gossip] did.
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Swear to god that there's nothing else in the console, though. Top of my messages are when I loaded in game, and it states the version of SO. Granted, he insulted me shortly after load, but shouldn't I have seen something else?
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Still doing weird getting up and moving around in the middle of an eat date. Happened earlier in v36 too. (Fuck, I hope I'm not being annoying.)
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Another insult. No info. Date interrupted by turn off? Weird. Love ~80%. Lust ~60%. Desire -13%. Commit 3%. No idea if any of this helps you.
t3589 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 Another insult. No info. Date interrupted by turn off? Weird. Love ~80%. Lust ~60%. Desire -13%. Commit 3%. No idea if any of this helps you. lol Not really. I need to be able to recreate it. I can't find a problem on my end. I have not experienced a single instance of lowered disposition without due cause. How it works for me is, if you have disagreements, their disposition goes down. If you don't have a relationship built up when that happens, they go into the negative. It's really that simple. If you're saying that you've never ever had a disagreement (turn off or other rejection), and his disposition is going down on its own, then there's a problem. I'm going to work up a test copy and I'll PM it to you. I'll put in message boxes that pop up every time anything changes so you know exactly precisely when it happens (and what we're really after, what happened just before the dispo hit, which should have occurred roughly one cycle previous to insult).
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Ah. A turn off and a post-fool around frustrated. Yes. Perhaps it's less of an issue and more of a misinterpretation on my part. Maybe [insult female] can mean something like "whoa...need some space" for an affection turn off or "coming on a little strong" for a flirt turn off and "<something?>" for a fool around turn off. I'm definitely not trying to cause extra/unnecessary work on your part. I know how frustrating that is.
nyaalich Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 After deciding to check with Trudy to see if there was gossip about me that I needed to dispel, I either hit Deny as intended or accidentally clicked one of the other options and didn't realize it. I get the Known Whore perk. Just checking to make sure that it's working as designed. Prior to that, I reset Charon again since apparently I decided to go put fuck-up mode into overdrive. Don't know if lingering stats did it or allowing interested unnamed NPCs to approach and get it out of their system. Favorite pick-up line from the Legion: I know your type. You're the kind that dies easily. They're all educated with their Latin and French due to their knowledge and application of that euphemism for orgasms. Back on subject, I decided "fuck this" and did a clean save. Still had the Known Whore perk on restart. I'll fish in FNVEdit later for the ref if/when I feel like it. I'm assuming otherwise that it will be hard to undo and that there will be more approaches since I'm tagged as a prostitute no matter what now. : P Charon has been more affectionate/receptive this time, which surprised me given the whole prostitute thing. Evidently, if I am a hooker, I am a hooker with a heart of gold, which incidentally, also makes me a spaceship. So you can see the appeal.
t3589 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 After deciding to check with Trudy to see if there was gossip about me that I needed to dispel, I either hit Deny as intended or accidentally clicked one of the other options and didn't realize it. I get the Known Whore perk. Just checking to make sure that it's working as designed. Prior to that, I reset Charon again since apparently I decided to go put fuck-up mode into overdrive. Don't know if lingering stats did it or allowing interested unnamed NPCs to approach and get it out of their system. Favorite pick-up line from the Legion: I know your type. You're the kind that dies easily. They're all educated with their Latin and French due to their knowledge and application of that euphemism for orgasms. Back on subject, I decided "fuck this" and did a clean save. Still had the Known Whore perk on restart. I'll fish in FNVEdit later for the ref if/when I feel like it. I'm assuming otherwise that it will be hard to undo and that there will be more approaches since I'm tagged as a prostitute no matter what now. : P Charon has been more affectionate/receptive this time, which surprised me given the whole prostitute thing. Evidently, if I am a hooker, I am a hooker with a heart of gold, which incidentally, also makes me a spaceship. So you can see the appeal. Gossip is a crap shoot. It can be used to dispel any and all rumors, but you risk picking up other rumors or upsetting them. It's best to gossip with an incompatible you have no interest in. That way if they get pissy, it's no big loss. The perks in that copy were only partially completed. I think this new copy has a better handle on them. I've also added more descriptive info to let you know what they affect. The Common Whore perk denotes entry level prostitution. It's the initial stage where you haven't yet taken on prostitution as an occupation, but are actively engaged in trading sex for what you want. I will add level ups as the prostitution ranks are tested. Right now, you can only reach Common Whore. Next level will be Streetwalker, but the promotion isn't in yet fyi. Ranks: 1. Common Whore 2. Streetwalker 3. Bar Boy/Girl 4. Sex Worker 5. Pro Escort Special Perks: 5a.Call Boy/Call Girl 5b. Companion/Mistress Special End Game Ranks: 6. Wasteland Madame/Pimp 7. Groom/Bride Of The Wastes There is also Exotic Dancer and ShowGirl but these are unrelated because they are independent of the prostitution level advancement chain. EDIT: You should now get a ring when you commit and a wedding band when you marry. I've also tweaked the eat package again. They should stay put now. Let me know. EDIT EDIT: Call Boy/Girl. This is where the radio dialog thing we talked about comes in.
nyaalich Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 There is also Exotic Dancer and ShowGirl but these are unrelated because they are independent of the prostitution level advancement chain. Ooh ooh ooh! Is it back in? I don't remember call boy/girl. I know that we briefly talked about the pip-phone mod and how that could be a way to deal with extended absences. Rather than walking the streets it's ham radio dispatch?
t3589 Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 There is also Exotic Dancer and ShowGirl but these are unrelated because they are independent of the prostitution level advancement chain. Ooh ooh ooh! Is it back in? I don't remember call boy/girl. I know that we briefly talked about the pip-phone mod and how that could be a way to deal with extended absences. Rather than walking the streets it's ham radio dispatch? It's back in but there isn't anything that hands it out yet. The effects/special moves aren't in yet either. Both of those you'll be able to get without becoming a prostitute. For those that just want to 'dabble'. Right that's what I meant. Our talk about extended absence gave me the idea for a way to be 'On Call' to private clients. Like a sort of pager. That way, when they are in the mood, and you aren't around, they can hit on your call box instead. lol EDIT: Oh, and both Exotic Dancer and ShowGirl unlock special moves.
t3589 Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 That's another thing. Only females will get ShowGirl. Both can reasonably get Exotic Dancer (male stripper). But I can't think of the equivalent of ShowGirl for males? An Apache Team (do they even still have that)? Nothing fits there.
nyaalich Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 No idea. And now for....tonight's bug report! 1) You need to add a check for if the pip-boy radio is already on when dance begins. FWIW, it also seems to default to the top station. Let me tell you what: you haven't experienced life until you've danced to a monologue (custom station). 2) I got 2 [go for it]s during fool around. 3) I got a "no" after fool around > seek privacy. The building was empty (had a loading screen), but there was a dead guy in there in another room who, dead or not, didn't have visibility from his horizontal position. You've done a good job of working the subtleties of exploring a new sexual relationship and its boundaries through the mini-game. Touching vs. fondling vs. groping. I tip my equipped in-game hat to you. EDIT: Also got a weird zoom in and out randomly after a conversation or two. I think after rejections on either party's part? Also, I haven't caught when it does this, but every now and then, a different piece of armor will be equipped after the tokens change per a conversation. I believe that the ones its swapping between are equiv. dt but one has a melee and something else bonus.
t3589 Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 No idea. And now for....tonight's bug report! 1) You need to add a check for if the pip-boy radio is already on when dance begins. FWIW, it also seems to default to the top station. Let me tell you what: you haven't experienced life until you've danced to a monologue (custom station). 2) I got 2 [go for it]s during fool around. 3) I got a "no" after fool around > seek privacy. The building was empty (had a loading screen), but there was a dead guy in there in another room who, dead or not, didn't have visibility from his horizontal position. You've done a good job of working the subtleties of exploring a new sexual relationship and its boundaries through the mini-game. Touching vs. fondling vs. groping. I tip my equipped in-game hat to you. EDIT: Also got a weird zoom in and out randomly after a conversation or two. I think after rejections on either party's part? Also, I haven't caught when it does this, but every now and then, a different piece of armor will be equipped after the tokens change per a conversation. I believe that the ones its swapping between are equiv. dt but one has a melee and something else bonus. What happens if it's already on? Shouldn't turn off I don't think. Go For It represents the players perception that their partner is ready to begin the act. rofl That's funny. He felt creeped out by the corpse and couldn't perform. Some scenarios you never imagine. I'd need to know what conversation happened before the zoom. Some NPCs (many of the generics in AWOP for example) have no greeting dialog which means they'll always zoom on greet. If these were NPCs you had already talked to then yes, it's probably rejection related, though I put a catch in for that. I'll look over it and the tokens.
t3589 Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 OK I think I'm done correcting all the mistakes I left behind in this last big change. Tweaked a few things to resolve the rejection dialog zoom bug. Still not sure about the tokens. They're all blank invisible armor more or less. All of them are set to 0 DT. Will dig around on it.
nyaalich Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Not a big deal on the armor. More amusing than anything. "Hmm...something that I just said made you think that the suit is more appropriate than the t-shirt. Interesting." If the pip-boy radio is on, it stops, and then the first radio station plays. Either that or it switches to the first radio station. There's a second or two delay on that station's intro monologue. Can't remember what happened the last time that I had that one particular station playing. Don't remember what the first zoom-in thing was (although, pretty sure it was rejection), but the second was a fool around > stop > frustrated. I too was a little creeped out by the corpse, but I just didn't fucking feel like fast traveling back home again. There was stuff to loot. ; P I know that's what "go for it" means, but there were two options for it in the menu. Replacing one of the lick/bite/etc. slot and the other lick/bite/etc. slot. Is this how it's supposed to happen? I am kind of confused. When I get a "No" after a foreplay action, that's when I get the "Start Sex" option. Seems a little backwards unless that's somehow tied in for non-con possibilities. EDIT: Oh yeah. I knew that there was something else that I forgot last night. Eat packages are still wonky. Have conversation > get up and find another place to sit. There's going to be a line worn down in the carpet in my player home. ; D
BoondockSaint Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Just to say thanks for the mod. I think I'll return to play NV in july, I guess then this will be even more awesome. Also, to contribute with anything, you could add Red Lucy to the bisexual NPCs.
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