SexLab Hormones (January 2025)

[Budroi]

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Edit: On an unrelated note, I did find a method of applying other hairs to the bimbo race, but I had to modify the hair mod in particular to show up as available for bimbo exclusively. By selecting the head part (the hair specifically that you want available on bimbo), duplicating it, then edit it so available race is set to _SLH_HeadPartsBimbo, it will then be available for the bimbo race. The duplication is so that the hair is still usable on other races, and this has to be done for each hair in the mod you want. Of course, all of this is done in the CK, selecting the hair mod as the active file, and having SLH loaded as well.

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I wish I had the skill or I would do it but I hope someday soon someone is capable of making an Apachii hairs patch.

[DeepBlueFrog]

The next version of Hormones will allow standard hair styles (humanoid hair styles, including Apachii) at the cost of more unpredictable glitches in the face when the transformation happens.

 

Changing race and/or sex back and forth in Racemenu should clear that up in most cases.

 

The reason the hair was hard coded was to ensure a smoother transition from male to female, but since Skyrim doesn't seem to apply race presets on a race and sex change, it doesn't matter anyway and I can go back to allowing hair styles.

 

 

[reibushido]

I think many of us signed up for unpredictable glitches when we started heavily modding Skyrim, although I don't remember when I signed that form. The tedium would be the main issue with making that change for Apachii, but as skyrimll said, it would only be needed until the next release. Plus I forgot a step in that process, for some reason I thought changing the hair mod was it, but changing Hormones was actually the more direct method. Its effectively the same, but instead you would be making the duplicate of the hair within the Hormones esp, then adding _SLH_HeadPartsBimbo to the available races for each hair. I was even able to successfully perform this with a HDT hair without losing its physics, but that was where I saw the flaw in my earlier process. But at this point, I'd only recommend trying this if you were desperate enough to not wait for skyrimll.

[grifterrik]

Here's an unexpected side effect of Bimbo being it's own race that gave me good laugh:

 

[weird]

Here's an unexpected side effect of Bimbo being it's own race that gave me good laugh:

 

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I can only imagine how Mariesse "disrupted" the Thalmor "activities"...

[DeepBlueFrog]

Here's an unexpected side effect of Bimbo being it's own race that gave me good laugh:

 

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Good one!

[Budroi]

I think many of us signed up for unpredictable glitches when we started heavily modding Skyrim, although I don't remember when I signed that form. The tedium would be the main issue with making that change for Apachii, but as skyrimll said, it would only be needed until the next release. Plus I forgot a step in that process, for some reason I thought changing the hair mod was it, but changing Hormones was actually the more direct method. Its effectively the same, but instead you would be making the duplicate of the hair within the Hormones esp, then adding _SLH_HeadPartsBimbo to the available races for each hair. I was even able to successfully perform this with a HDT hair without losing its physics, but that was where I saw the flaw in my earlier process. But at this point, I'd only recommend trying this if you were desperate enough to not wait for skyrimll.

 

LOL, I signed that form the moment I created my accounts on nexus and LL.

[Shadowscale]

Does color change work when you change it off the default colors? I think I've done at least a week or two of sex and the colors are still my default colorations.

 

Example: Like say for high sex activity I set it for blue. So far my character's color has not shifted past their default look.

[Shadowscale]

Hey, i did my best with searching through the topic but i didnt find anything. If this is a doublepost, then i am truly sorry!

I tried the bimbo curse today, it looks very exciting and well done -

However, i have a discouraging issue with it...:/ I use the Sevenbase body replacer for everything, all armors and so on. The bimbo race however seems to use a UNP body. Wearing armors and such that i have in my game makes it all messed up, arms going through the body and the mesh stretching everywhere all around in a weird oregami fashion.

i would -so- much like to do the bimbo curse with a 7B body though, i personally think it looks way better than UNP and it would spare me the glitchy stuff.

Any way to do this? Have i missed an optional patch or download? 

 

Edit: If someone knows a way to make the bimbo race have the same bodies and presets as Nord, i'd be eternally grateful. Ty!

 

Check back a few pages for a uunp hormones for bodyslide.

 

Edit: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22195-sexlab-hormones-2015-07-17/page-69?do=findComment&comment=1251731you will need the latest bodyslide with uunp files, but all unp based armors will fit to your bodytype which 7b is one of.

[foreveraloneguy]

Installing bodyslide, UUNP files and then these presets will not change the 7B bodyreplacer i have installed, only give me access to presets for the bimbo race that will show as 7B even when nude?

Thanks alot! This looks like what i'm searching for. Forgive me though, but i'm trying to understand this and i just want to ask if i'm correct - 

 

 

You still have to replace the meshes under Data\Meshes\actors\character\sl_hormones\bimbo. Or you can just copy your existing meshes there and get what you're after. That directory won't exist because everything is packed in a bsa, so you'll have to create it.

[reibushido]

Basically, yes. I did this with the Anime Sekushii body and it has worked out well for my character. The only downside I found so far to this though is that Honey requires those files unmodified. Now it isn't a CTD style issue, but for me she was almost 100% invisible (there was this phantom silhouette that briefly appeared when initiating the SexLab scene and somewhat typical HTD snap due to the sudden jostling/transition to position for animation, but after that, completely invisible again). So I was able to perform the whole scene, and follow up chat with her, despite her lack of physical form. But as for anything in modded Skyrim, your mileage may vary.

 

I'm sure it can be fixed by adjusting Honey inside the mod, but that would require some tweaking inside the Creation Kit, and it sounds like that is an avenue you might not want to tread into yet. Even I don't care enough to fix it in my current game, it's not like I'll ever go back and 'see' her again.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Basically, yes. I did this with the Anime Sekushii body and it has worked out well for my character. The only downside I found so far to this though is that Honey requires those files unmodified. Now it isn't a CTD style issue, but for me she was almost 100% invisible (there was this phantom silhouette that briefly appeared when initiating the SexLab scene and somewhat typical HTD snap due to the sudden jostling/transition to position for animation, but after that, completely invisible again). So I was able to perform the whole scene, and follow up chat with her, despite her lack of physical form. But as for anything in modded Skyrim, your mileage may vary.

 

I'm sure it can be fixed by adjusting Honey inside the mod, but that would require some tweaking inside the Creation Kit, and it sounds like that is an avenue you might not want to tread into yet. Even I don't care enough to fix it in my current game, it's not like I'll ever go back and 'see' her again.

 

Did you make sure you copied over both the mesh and the texture files?

 

The Bimbo race uses skin objects with paths to the texture files. That could create incompatibilities with a custom race.

 

Something else to look for is skeleton files.

 

I haven't tried to customize her with files from another race, so I don't know if anything would cause an issue, but normally, all you would have to do is replace the mesh and texture files and preserve the same names as the original copies.

[Guest]

I use the hdt working vagina. I notice it goes away when switching to the bimbo race, I use the cbbe body and cbbe patch. I was wondering why it goes away and if there is anything to fix it. ty in advance.

[cold burn]

I use the hdt working vagina. I notice it goes away when switching to the bimbo race, I use the cbbe body and cbbe patch. I was wondering why it goes away and if there is anything to fix it. ty in advance.

The bimbo race uses its own meshes and textures- much like the succubus race does. the solution is much the same. Place the mesh you want in Data\Meshes\actors\character\sl_hormones\bimbo. And to replace textures- since you'll need to use textures compatible with a working vagina- go to the same basic place- but in your textures folder rather than your meshes one.

[Guest]

Ok Almost there. I have the hdt vagina working now. I have big seams where the legs meet the torso. Looks like distorted meshes and my character has torpedo tits. Seems the nipples are misaligned with the points. Under meshes I have femalebody1.nif and femalebody2.nif.  Under textures I have femalebody_1.DDS, Femalebody_1_msn.dds, Femalebody_1_s.dds, and femalebody_1_sks.dds. Am I missing something? Ty in advance.

[Saviorsrd]

All right, a few weeks away from the mod, some reflections/ideas for improvements in the long term.

 

0)  First of all, great mod.  Even if the core Hormones effect seems to not be what it's really about anymore, everything is fantastic as is.  The below are just some ideas to expand it out.

 

1)  I find it odd that sex with Daedra both advances the Succubus quest and triggers the Bimbo quest.  Consider coming up with a separate trigger for one or the other?  My suggestion would be to leave the succubus alone and put some consumable items with innocuous names throughout the world, along with Honey of course.

 

2)  As a fan of submissive mind control in particular, the Bimbo quest certainly scratches an itch that isn't much touched on in other LL mods (not even SD+ or the mod actually labeled 'Mind Control'.)  I only comprehend the very beginnings of modding from the tutorials, but I can envision the quest might be expanded upon to be dependent on player actions to advance, rather than over time.  Description of one way this might be handled under the sblock.

 

 

 

1)  Use a variable (I'm not quite sure what you'd call it in Skyrim/Papyrus) to store a value between 1-100 to represent progress on the transformation/curse.

• If male at start of the quest, set to 1.
• If female, set to 20 (women are a little more vulnerable since they don't have the physical transformation to progress through.

2)  The variable controls the phases of the TG transformation.

• 1-20:  Transgender phase 
• 21-40:  Always in the "Female" Bimbo body, only get the dialogue block at extremely high arousal (top 33% of the range selected, so if the threshold were set at 70 the block would only occur above 90.)
• 41-60:  Dialogue block obeys the full specified range.  Clumsiness also kicks in at this level.
• 61-80:  Instead of just the block, player has a chance to giggle and try to flirt when she wants to talk even with low arousal, but can get back to normal dialogue choices...or not (see below.)
• 81-99:  Player always flirts first, occasionally gets hit with a spell effect with a desire to get out of clothing (chest pieces), could probably borrow code from one of the slave collar mods with permission.  
• 100:  Full-on transformation.  Pretty much like the girl at the start of the quest.

3)  Globally, the variable increases primarily in response to sex acts.  The more sex you have, the more bimbo-ish you become.

4)  In the talk with Honey, I believe she already asks you if you 'like fucking'.  If the player agrees with her, variable advances by a decent chunk (5-10 points.)

5)  Every time the player lets the dialog-block happen, advance by a small amount (1-3 points.)

6)  When the flirt dialogue comes up, if the player has sex as a direct result, advance a moderate amount (3-7 points.)

7)  When investigating cures for the curse, every so often a knowledgeable person 'suggests' the player go find someone to fuck.  If she agrees, arousal immediately goes to 100 and 3-5 points.

8)  If the player is at 100 when she talks to the Daedra Outcast to get the quest to turn back, he asks if she likes being a bimbo.  If she does, he doesn't give the quest.  

8a)  Hardcore option:  Not only does the Outcast not give the quest, but Forcibly Blonde ends with the transformation being permanent.

 

 

 

3)  Succubus quest felt a little hard to get working with the other mods it tries to talk to.  Not quite sure how to put my finger on it, but others seem to be happy with it.  Maybe include a basic transformation and self-buff after sex if the plug-ins aren't included so it feels complete even without the extras.  (Nothing big - 5% stamina/magicka regen and giving something like the Enchantress version of the Calm spell along with some aspects of a transformation package.)

 

4)  Did I mention this is a great mod and I really appreciate the hard work obviously put into it?

[Para]

Any news how the work on the update is going?

[Highborn]

I never used this mod before and there are some features I would like to experiment but I don't want to have my character's body physically modified. Can we disable that at the MCM?

 

In short, I want to try the effects/buffs, the NPC comments, the quests but maintain my character appearance.

[Shadowscale]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but noticed that the increases to my character's schlong and such aren't applied to werewolf form.

[Basti]

Really good mod, but it appears that the shlongs isn't automatically applied, not sure if this is a bug or intentional and it makes it obscure if you've actually activated the tg properly. Also it's not really clear how to become a succubus as deadra influence starts the bimbo transformation even if you have it unchecked, you just don't end up having your race change to bimbo. Is this a bug?

[DeepBlueFrog]

I never used this mod before and there are some features I would like to experiment but I don't want to have my character's body physically modified. Can we disable that at the MCM?

In short, I want to try the effects/buffs, the NPC comments, the quests but maintain my character appearance.

  

 

You can disable many effects in the menu already. Just uncheck node shapes and weight.

 

Not sure if this was mentioned, but noticed that the increases to my character's schlong and such aren't applied to werewolf form.

  

 

Hormones effect only apply to your main shape. One shape at a time.

This is to avoid serious issues when changing race like in a werewolf transformation.

 

Really good mod, but it appears that the shlongs isn't automatically applied, not sure if this is a bug or intentional and it makes it obscure if you've actually activated the tg properly. Also it's not really clear how to become a succubus as deadra influence starts the bimbo transformation even if you have it unchecked, you just don't end up having your race change to bimbo. Is this a bug?

Some of these issues are already fixed in the next version,

 

The succubus change is subtle and improves with each sex act with daedras. There is no real quest around it yet but it is functional.

[Basti]

 

Really good mod, but it appears that the shlongs isn't automatically applied, not sure if this is a bug or intentional and it makes it obscure if you've actually activated the tg properly. Also it's not really clear how to become a succubus as deadra influence starts the bimbo transformation even if you have it unchecked, you just don't end up having your race change to bimbo. Is this a bug?

Some of these issues are already fixed in the next version,

 

The succubus change is subtle and improves with each sex act with daedras. There is no real quest around it yet but it is functional.

 

 

Oh thanks Another small  couple of things, I've noticed that the butt node seems to scale a lot better with the manga body than the normal cbbe body, meaning even at scale 4 it doesn't look deformed in the same way the cbbe butt does at that size. Not sure how relevant this is, I just found it interesting. Additionally will we some minor support for npc's any time soon? I just think it would be interesting to see follower's body changing as you perform sexual acts on them.

[MileHClub]

All right, a few weeks away from the mod, some reflections/ideas for improvements in the long term.

 

0)  First of all, great mod. (...)

 

1)   (...) Succubus quest and triggers the Bimbo quest (...)

 

2)  (...)  submissive mind control (...)

 

 

 

2)  The variable controls the phases of the TG transformation.

• 1-20:  Transgender phase 
• 21-40:  Always in the "Female" Bimbo body, only get the dialogue block at extremely high arousal (top 33% of the range selected, so if the threshold were set at 70 the block would only occur above 90.)
• 41-60:  Dialogue block obeys the full specified range.  Clumsiness also kicks in at this level.
• 61-80:  Instead of just the block, player has a chance to giggle and try to flirt when she wants to talk even with low arousal, but can get back to normal dialogue choices...or not (see below.)
• 81-99:  Player always flirts first, occasionally gets hit with a spell effect with a desire to get out of clothing (chest pieces), could probably borrow code from one of the slave collar mods with permission.  
• 100:  Full-on transformation.  Pretty much like the girl at the start of the quest.

5)  Every time the player lets the dialog-block happen, advance by a small amount (1-3 points.)

 

4)  Did I mention this is a great mod and I really appreciate the hard work obviously put into it?

 

0+4) Yes i agree. Its quite a fun mod and i thank you for the work you put into it!

 

1) I also wondered why both transformations are triggered by the same thing.

Imo the dremora should turn/advance you into a succubus, but not also giving you a bimbo curse.

They would of course give it to you if you ask them, but in the end, they would prefer to turn you into a succubus, wouldnt they?

I like Saviorsrd's idea of introducing items to the world.

You could combine that with Defeat too -> never loose to an alchemist!

 

2)  To me the submissive mind changing effects are the main point of bimbo-transformations of both sexes. So i very much agree on the progression chart idea.

 

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One point i was always wondering about: What exactly are the two transforms doing?

When im opening the active effects chart i wont see anything about being a bimbo or a succubus.

Im playing a female highelf mage - When getting bimbo-cursed, i would suspect that my character has a permanent effect that reduces her max mana and increases her spell costs. (Maybe increasing magic-load times too? idk)

While being succubus-cursed would give her a large arousal-over-time bonus and on the fully developed stage a seduction skill.

 

 

 

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Talking about succubi.

I quite liked the succubus race, but it always felt pointless.

With the better vampires mod one actually need to drink blood regularly.

Why not doing the same with being a succubus?

(I think that would actually be out of scope for this project. Its just some general blubbering. )

[DeepBlueFrog]

Thanks for the ideas and suggestions.

 

I am away this week but I am taking notes for later.

 

Regarding the link between daedra, succubus and bimbo...

 

The premise of the mod is that hormones should impact the shape of the player. Sexual activity is one source of change ... Exposure to daedra is another (change is more significant when exposed to daedra because they are closer to the source of Creation).

 

The rough idea behind the transformations is that having sex with daedric creatures is hazardous. At worst, it will turn you into a full on succubus. At best, it will increase the rate of change of body parts (not done yet, but I will add that song) or in more random cases, change your gender or turn you into a bimbo.

 

Maybe I need to tweak the chance of transformation and make it more random (except with Honey...that one should be 100% chance).

[Saviorsrd]

Thanks for the ideas and suggestions.

 

I am away this week but I am taking notes for later.

 

Regarding the link between daedra, succubus and bimbo...

 

The premise of the mod is that hormones should impact the shape of the player. Sexual activity is one source of change ... Exposure to daedra is another (change is more significant when exposed to daedra because they are closer to the source of Creation).

 

The rough idea behind the transformations is that having sex with daedric creatures is hazardous. At worst, it will turn you into a full on succubus. At best, it will increase the rate of change of body parts (not done yet, but I will add that song) or in more random cases, change your gender or turn you into a bimbo.

 

Maybe I need to tweak the chance of transformation and make it more random (except with Honey...that one should be 100% chance).

 

Right, take your time - my suggestion was pretty darn complicated, wasn't expecting it any quicker than Soon .  

 

Consider this a bug report, then - 100% chance of both/all transformations with Daedra doesn't seem to be intended, but that is indeed the behavior I'm experiencing.  

 

The items idea could still fit the premise, possibly using Sheogoth (as a parallel to Sanguine over in SD) putting things in your path as a more consistent way of getting the bimbo transformation out in the world.  If it were my mod, I might have many of them as 'too good to be true' potions, although possibly with a clue they're more than they seem. . .