SexLab Hormones (January 2025)

[Uka]

I am using the "Being Female" mod which would count as a pregnancy mod, any way to have them scale at the same time? I cannot see changes when wearing armor, my character is currently not pregnant either. Is this built into the mod or a glitch? I love the concept but would like to be able to see the changes at all times. Is there any way to activate it?

[foreveraloneguy]

Getting back on topic, I've noticed a lot of things are improved in this version, but the tinting is still not working very well. Usually takes > 15 minutes and several sex acts to get my character to start showing any level of skin color change, even when the tint level was maxed at the time the game was saved. Any further thoughts on going to an overlay?

[Budroi]

@skyrimll

 

Out of curiosity...

I notice that the bimbo transform has its own head and head tri files.

At some point in the future (if its not to difficult) would you be able to add (perhaps as an optional download) a change that allows the use of the citrus head?

I know that citrus head uses its own tri files so maybe it is not possible but if it is i think it would be fantastic.

Or alternately do you know if I can replace the head and tri files with those from the citrus head and still have the facial animations and what not?

[weird]

@skyrimll

 

Out of curiosity...

I notice that the bimbo transform has its own head and head tri files.

At some point in the future (if its not to difficult) would you be able to add (perhaps as an optional download) a change that allows the use of the citrus head?

I know that citrus head uses its own tri files so maybe it is not possible but if it is i think it would be fantastic.

Or alternately do you know if I can replace the head and tri files with those from the citrus head and still have the facial animations and what not?

Citrus Head Standalone has an ini file where you can specify non-standard races. I did some experiments with it, and could get it to work, but not 100%. I'm using it since the first release of SLH with the bimbo curse, and can share what i did.

 

The zip file below has the citrus tweaks i did, and requires the citrus standalone version (not the replacer). To use it, on racemenu change the Face Part slider to 2 on the head tab (i think). I said not 100% because sometimes it will bug the face sliders, changing the nose, for example, will do nothing. When this happens, change your race to any other and back to Bimbo, without closing the menu, it will work. The mouth color will bug on the menu too, but works ok on the game after you close the racemenu, save and reload. All sliders work, including the expressions. At least for me. 

 

To be honest i'm not 100% sure of what i was doing, that's why i didn't release it. If somebody can do it better or show me what i did wrong, please do.

CITRUS Head - SLH Bimbo.zip

[Budroi]

 

 

@skyrimll

 

Out of curiosity...

I notice that the bimbo transform has its own head and head tri files.

At some point in the future (if its not to difficult) would you be able to add (perhaps as an optional download) a change that allows the use of the citrus head?

I know that citrus head uses its own tri files so maybe it is not possible but if it is i think it would be fantastic.

Or alternately do you know if I can replace the head and tri files with those from the citrus head and still have the facial animations and what not?

Citrus Head Standalone has an ini file where you can specify non-standard races. I did some experiments with it, and could get it to work, but not 100%. I'm using it since the first release of SLH with the bimbo curse, and can share what i did.

 

The zip file below has the citrus tweaks i did, and requires the citrus standalone version (not the replacer). To use it, on racemenu change the Face Part slider to 2 on the head tab (i think). I said not 100% because sometimes it will bug the face sliders, changing the nose, for example, will do nothing. When this happens, change your race to any other and back to Bimbo, without closing the menu, it will work. The mouth color will bug on the menu too, but works ok on the game after you close the racemenu, save and reload. All sliders work, including the expressions. At least for me. 

 

To be honest i'm not 100% sure of what i was doing, that's why i didn't release it. If somebody can do it better or show me what i did wrong, please do.

 

 

 

I will check it out as I am using the standalone head.

 

[Feliks]

 

 

Hey I did so... And everything I read at the time was all about averages and weighted averages, and other stuff that not only didn't interest me, but sounded like, at best, a kludgey compromise trying to get around the weaknesses of netimmerse. And let's face it... netimmerse is such a POS that anything that tries to work around its limitations is going by be, by definition, a kludge. But it's also the most widely implemented thing out there. 

 

Now, PROTIP: when reading a post, read the words that were actually written. I did not say CANS would be bad. I said it wouldn't be good. Read the paragraph above again to understand why, while remembering that good and bad are opposite ends of a scale, not a binary condition. And if the ability to choose cumulative scaling has been added, that moves it a bit further towards one of those ends.

 

I'm still going to keep looking at my idea though, because no patches and no changes to mods.

 

 

Well, it's going to circumvent NetImmerse by ignoring NetImmerse entirely. It's been rewritten for NiO, so hopefully that should help.

 

In my personal opinion, things are either good or bad. If they are not good, then they are by definition bad. I honestly don't see where the inbetween is.

 

also: 

 

 

 Currently supports both average sizing and additive sizing.

It was literally in the OP, under "how it works." Average was just the off the cuff example when it was thought up, and also the name for the sake of the pun.

[Para]

Something is wrong. I have disabled Bimbo in MCM but I'm still getting Bimbo-quest after sex with her. Also I'm not able to ask Bimbo about the curse. 

[Shadowscale]

Something is wrong. I have disabled Bimbo in MCM but I'm still getting Bimbo-quest after sex with her. Also I'm not able to ask Bimbo about the curse. 

 

Its a little below some of her other topics which is basically amounts to Okay..what happened to me? That's only possible if you enabled sex change in MCM. The quest is just a way if you want to turn back to your old gender then back again. Its permanently in your quest log. Bimbo disabled in MCM just keeps you from turning into the Bimbo race.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Are you just getting the quest without transformation?

 

Or are you getting transformed too?

[foreveraloneguy]

 

 

 

Hey I did so... And everything I read at the time was all about averages and weighted averages, and other stuff that not only didn't interest me, but sounded like, at best, a kludgey compromise trying to get around the weaknesses of netimmerse. And let's face it... netimmerse is such a POS that anything that tries to work around its limitations is going by be, by definition, a kludge. But it's also the most widely implemented thing out there. 

 

Now, PROTIP: when reading a post, read the words that were actually written. I did not say CANS would be bad. I said it wouldn't be good. Read the paragraph above again to understand why, while remembering that good and bad are opposite ends of a scale, not a binary condition. And if the ability to choose cumulative scaling has been added, that moves it a bit further towards one of those ends.

 

I'm still going to keep looking at my idea though, because no patches and no changes to mods.

 

 

Well, it's going to circumvent NetImmerse by ignoring NetImmerse entirely. It's been rewritten for NiO, so hopefully that should help.

 

In my personal opinion, things are either good or bad. If they are not good, then they are by definition bad. I honestly don't see where the inbetween is.

 

also: 

 

 

 Currently supports both average sizing and additive sizing.

It was literally in the OP, under "how it works." Average was just the off the cuff example when it was thought up, and also the name for the sake of the pun.

 

 

Sorry, I stopped reading at

 

But what does it actually do?

Simply put C.A.N.S. should handle calls to change node scales, take all the requested sizes, find the average (configurable in future releases) size, and apply that to the character thereby resolving any conflicts.

 

The bit you quoted is hidden in a spoiler that I didn't bother to read, because by that time I didn't actually care how it worked. So maybe consider updating that part that says it only does averaging? I mean, it seems significant.

 

I like that it's rewritten to use nioverride. Except for doing it via an skse plugin to avoid having to patch every mod that uses scaling, it's reasonably close to what I had in mind. 

 

The world is not binary. Bad to worse and good to better, and all points in between, are demonstrably real things. Examples; eating ice cream: good (unless you're lactose intolerant or just plain broken); brain freeze from eating ice cream too fast: annoying but hardly bad, but also definitely not good; abscessed tooth from eating too much ice cream and not taking care of dental hygiene: bad; abscessed tooth leading to meningitis: really, really, bad, much worse than just an abscess.

 

Now, if you still feel a need to continue this, please, let's do it in PMs. I think we've crapped on this thread enough. And neither of us seems particularly willing to let the other have the last word, so... yeah.

[Para]

Are you just getting the quest without transformation?

 

Or are you getting transformed too?

I'm getting the light and the racemenu goes on. I simply quit it with R. There is also a magic effect that goes away after some time. I'm playing female and I have sexchange and transgender enabled in MCM.  I hopped I would get the sexchange curse. Is that what is supposed to happen? How can I see if it is working? Checking status in MCM shows 0. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Are you just getting the quest without transformation?

 

Or are you getting transformed too?

I'm getting the light and the racemenu goes on. I simply quit it with R. There is also a magic effect that goes away after some time. I'm playing female and I have sexchange and transgender enabled in MCM.  I hopped I would get the sexchange curse. Is that what is supposed to happen? How can I see if it is working? Checking status in MCM shows 0. 

 

 

Looks like I will have to do more tests.

 

Sex with the bimbo should trigger a sex change even if Bimbo is set to false (assuming sexchange is set to true).

[Shadowscale]

 

Are you just getting the quest without transformation?

 

Or are you getting transformed too?

I'm getting the light and the racemenu goes on. I simply quit it with R. There is also a magic effect that goes away after some time. I'm playing female and I have sexchange and transgender enabled in MCM.  I hopped I would get the sexchange curse. Is that what is supposed to happen? How can I see if it is working? Checking status in MCM shows 0. 

 

 

I started a male character just for this mod to change him to a her (a transgendered her none the less) so for me it displays bimbo, transgender, and sex change at 1. This is with the newest version?

[Para]

Yes the last version with clean install. It seems to work for male pc but not for female.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Yes the last version with clean install. It seems to work for male pc but not for female.

 

If you are already female, that is a bug I have to fix.

 

Edit: It was indeed a bug and it will be fixed in the next update.

[fredricton]

I made myself some Bodyslide Unified UNP presets up for Hormones and thought I would share them. This replaces the Bimbo body that comes with Hormones.

 

I included the basic UNP nif files for convenience. This way Mod Organizer users will not have to move the generated files out of the Overwrite directory. It should just overwrite the ones included in the archive.

 

Hormones UUNP Bodyslide.7z

 

You will of course need the latest Bodyslide with all UUNP files installed.

 

You will also need to find your own Texture Replacements. The HDT+ is based on UN7B I believe, so you will need the right texture for the vagina model.

 

Also remember to only select one body, (there are four,) and to batch build your hands and feet.

 

Skyrimll is of course free to use this if he wants, as he sees fit. I'm hoping others find this useful if nothing more than a time saver.

[Saviorsrd]

Is the new "Bimbo Dialog" supposed to loop indefinitely on a fail until you break the conversation?  Feels like it should end conversation.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I made myself some Bodyslide Unified UNP presets up for Hormones and thought I would share them. This replaces the Bimbo body that comes with Hormones.

 

I included the basic UNP nif files for convenience. This way Mod Organizer users will not have to move the generated files out of the Overwrite directory. It should just overwrite the ones included in the archive.

 

Hormones UUNP Bodyslide.7z

 

You will of course need the latest Bodyslide with all UUNP files installed.

 

You will also need to find your own Texture Replacements. The HDT+ is based on UN7B I believe, so you will need the right texture for the vagina model.

 

Also remember to only select one body, (there are four,) and to batch build your hands and feet.

 

Skyrimll is of course free to use this if he wants, as he sees fit. I'm hoping others find this useful if nothing more than a time saver.

 

Thanks! 

 

I will add it to the download when I get a chance.

 

Can you post a few screenshots to share what it looks like?

 

 

Is the new "Bimbo Dialog" supposed to loop indefinitely on a fail until you break the conversation?  Feels like it should end conversation.

 

Yes... I have to ad more lines to make it more seamless but it will run in circles as long as the NPC you are talking to is not aroused enough (I think the limit for answers is 30 exposure).

 

So, if you want to get some relief from NPCs around you, you will have to excite them first.

Walk around naked, masturbate in public... you know, usual Bimbo stuff

[Shadowscale]

I noticed I have dialog as if my character was a bimbo herself with npcs when I had the option unchecked. The window when I pull up details does show Bimbo, Sex change, and transgender both reading 1.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I noticed I have dialog as if my character was a bimbo herself with npcs when I had the option unchecked. The window when I pull up details does show Bimbo, Sex change, and transgender both reading 1.

Which dialogue exactly?

[Shadowscale]

 

I noticed I have dialog as if my character was a bimbo herself with npcs when I had the option unchecked. The window when I pull up details does show Bimbo, Sex change, and transgender both reading 1.

Which dialogue exactly?

 

 

"Oh.My.Gods! You won't believe what happened. I was totally turned into this!" dialogue. Noticed it when I talked to Danica Pure-spring yesterday. Thought that topic would only pop  up if you were a bimbo though.

[TheGreyWolf]

I just found out that if you play as a Bimbo and get hit with any whips from ZaZ instead of the usual grunts and moans, instead I hear Zombie moans. Is the Bimbo race supposed to sound like a Zombie?

[Shadowscale]

Hm, perhaps a suggestion that if transgendered is marked as 1 in MCM perhaps the status messages should also mention your cock instead of the pussy? Basically if Sexlab is told to treat the character as male then cock is mentioned if female then pussy.

[fredricton]

 

I made myself some Bodyslide Unified UNP presets up for Hormones and thought I would share them. This replaces the Bimbo body that comes with Hormones.

 

I included the basic UNP nif files for convenience. This way Mod Organizer users will not have to move the generated files out of the Overwrite directory. It should just overwrite the ones included in the archive.

 

Hormones UUNP Bodyslide.7z

 

You will of course need the latest Bodyslide with all UUNP files installed.

 

You will also need to find your own Texture Replacements. The HDT+ is based on UN7B I believe, so you will need the right texture for the vagina model.

 

Also remember to only select one body, (there are four,) and to batch build your hands and feet.

 

Skyrimll is of course free to use this if he wants, as he sees fit. I'm hoping others find this useful if nothing more than a time saver.

 

Thanks! 

 

I will add it to the download when I get a chance.

 

Can you post a few screenshots to share what it looks like?

 

 

I just made some screenshots in Bodyslide for now, I need to play through and get the bimbo body in game still. But the Bodyslide screen shot shows some of the body type presets that this supports. I personally use a custom one

 

 

I'm personally using the settings in the last screen shot. It gives me a wide range of visual weight differentiation. But with this you can keep a separate body  shape if you like or have it match the shape of your main body. Personaly, I like them to match so that all my clothing and armor fit properly on both myself and NPCs. I start out my girls weight low and let her plump up with hormones weight changing features.

 

WIth more and more custom clothing and armor being converted to Universal UNP I can see more people wanting to make the switch over to it. it's also just a nice way to tweak your bimbo even if your going to have her running around naked all the time.

 

[foreveraloneguy]

Not bitching so much as curious, but is there a reason that you didn't use racecompatibiliity.esm for the bimbo race?