SexLab Hormones (January 2025)

[foreveraloneguy]

 

 

 

I wanted to poke around and see if I could figure out why scaling isn't applying to my vampire, but I'm just getting errors about missing store class, missing variable, a few others. I added sexlab_hormones.bsa to my SResourceArchiveList2 in skyrimeditor.ini. That's all I remember having to do previously to mess with stuff like this. Did I miss something?

 

Adding the bsa is not necessary for edits.

 

You have to make sure you are set up for scripting with sexlab and related requirements for Hormones.

 

For that, you will have to unpack loose files for:

 

- SKSE

- SKYUI

- SexLab Aroused

- SexLab of course

 

 

Yeah, I missed adding sexlab aroused. Got it working...

 

Anyway, I really think it's related to to the checks against _SLH_fOrigRace. I can't find the actual function that does the reset from the MCM menu. Which script is that in? And out of curiosity, why does it even matter? Wouldn't it just be easier to use whatever race the player currently is and not worry about what race they were originally?

 

 

It does matter because there is no guarantee the new race you are using has the right nodes or similar settings as the original race.

 

Did you try using the 'Set default shape' option?

 

I added it for that purpose... to tell Hormones this is the shape you want updated from now on.

 

 

Yeah, that's the button that does nothing as far as I can tell, but which you're supposed to use if you change race. At least it doesn't do anything for my vampire or any other race I change to. I've even tried hitting that, saving, reloading, as well as saving, exiting, continuing, and have waiting as long as 5 minutes to give it plenty of time to do whatever it's supposed to do. I've also tried just changing from nord to breton (non-vampire) and other vanilla races, and the same issue occurs. Until I change back to my to my original race that I chose at the start of the game, no scaling occurs with the exception of the "reset" button does still reset everything to what it was originally.

 

As far as the reason for that check, I'd simply point out that the same is true if the player changes the skeleton mid-game. While the attempt to protect a player from his own stupidity is admirable, I'm more of a "I'm not saying we should kill the stupid people, I'm just saying we should remove all the labels and let the problem sort itself out" kind of guy. Also, vampire lord with giant boobies... Just sayin'...

[Budroi]

@Skyrimll

 

How is gender assignment and race setup managed for Bimbo?

Maybe I am not asking correctly, let me restart.

 

I just downloaded the New version of bestial essence and I was a bimbo when starting the initial dog quest.

When the mod would activate the scene involving the dog nothing happened.

I did the whole reset of SL and all that according to the instructions (including those from the popups in game when becoming a bimbo), using match maker or aroused creatures activates scene correctly.

I have not seen anything in the BesEss thread about this issue either, so I am curious if Bimbo is treated like a completely new race or if it is configured like an addon to the race like vamp, werewolf and succubus are.

Like this...

bretonracevampire, bretonracesuccubus "bretonracebimbo" or like this BimboraceSuccubus.

I have a post over there as well

[Zinker]

@Skyrimll

 

How is gender assignment and race setup managed for Bimbo?

Maybe I am not asking correctly, let me restart.

 

I just downloaded the New version of bestial essence and I was a bimbo when starting the initial dog quest.

When the mod would activate the scene involving the dog nothing happened.

I did the whole reset of SL and all that according to the instructions (including those from the popups in game when becoming a bimbo), using match maker or aroused creatures activates scene correctly.

I have not seen anything in the BesEss thread about this issue either, so I am curious if Bimbo is treated like a completely new race or if it is configured like an addon to the race like vamp, werewolf and succubus are.

Like this...

bretonracevampire, bretonracesuccubus "bretonracebimbo" or like this BimboraceSuccubus.

I have a post over there as well

 

I have ran into the same issue yesterday too. I am still checking on a specific situation with it, though... because using MatchMaker on a dog worked fine, even with the "early stages" of Bimbo TG progression.

 

I would suggest making sure that you have FNIS Animals installed and up to date and try to recalculate the animations. Sometimes I forget to enable mine... which was partially the case yesterday. Usually making sure I have properly imported settings for SexLab worked for me.

[Zinker]

Sorry for double-post.

I have a Shlong issues with TG setting.

The steps are approximately as such:

 

0. Settings: bimbo, tg, sexchange on, succubus off

1. have "thing" with Honey

2. First transformation for TG - has chlong

3. Second transformation for bimbo - not sure, but I think its gone at this point

4. "Updated size" message - at this point shlong is definitely gone, with fully female organs.

5. Enabled Racemenu definitely does not have shlong.

 

I think when gender changes, shlong goes away. If this is not a known issue, I would try and produce a log.

 

P.S. I have also tried to take a look at the shlong options in Shlong MCM, changed nothing.

 

I am using CBBE instead of UNP. Does that matter?

 

[Budroi]

@Skyrimll

 

How is gender assignment and race setup managed for Bimbo?

Maybe I am not asking correctly, let me restart.

 

I just downloaded the New version of bestial essence and I was a bimbo when starting the initial dog quest.

When the mod would activate the scene involving the dog nothing happened.

I did the whole reset of SL and all that according to the instructions (including those from the popups in game when becoming a bimbo), using match maker or aroused creatures activates scene correctly.

I have not seen anything in the BesEss thread about this issue either, so I am curious if Bimbo is treated like a completely new race or if it is configured like an addon to the race like vamp, werewolf and succubus are.

Like this...

bretonracevampire, bretonracesuccubus "bretonracebimbo" or like this BimboraceSuccubus.

I have a post over there as well

 

ignore this... the quest did not follow through correctly when I tried with a save before becoming a bimbo.

I think it was a clear indication that the recent update to BesEss requires a clean save update, instead of just an overwrite update.

[Underscore]

I have a question regarding the start of the bimbo quest via the imprisoned island bimbo. I've located her, set the flag in MCM, had sex, and remade my character via RaceMenu. Now the game doesn't seem to want to give me back control of my character, she just stands there with the glow effect and no UI. I can still pause the game and bring up the menu as normal, but I don't have camera or character control at all. Resetting SexLab doesn't seem to do anything either. Have I missed a step somewhere?

[reibushido]

Another mod may not have released control for some reason, but there is a command for 'toggling controls' via console commands. Been a while since I last used it, but I think it was 'tc' and then it asked for 9 numbers after it, as binary (0 for no control, 1 for player control) each one for a different aspect of controlling the character. If you look up 'help control' in the console, I know it comes up. You can also use it to check which ones are currently active for you (it reads out as a string of binary numbers like before). Just set all of those to 1 and see if that helps.

 

Another possibility is script lag, but that goes along with what I said about a mod not giving control back for some reason. In which case, the script failed to fire and now you can't get control back by simply waiting for your system to catch up. But the console command should remedy that as well.

[4nk8r]

Using latest SLH and I just had an issue with the Forcibly Blonde quest kicking off after interaction with a Dremora outcast, but the toggle was off for that quest in the MCM when it happened.  Are those toggles functional?  This happened under a new playthrough, not from an upgrade in an old savegame.  TES5Edit isn't showing any conflicts with the quest (xx015161) with other mods, so hopefully that isn't the issue.  Is there something else I should be looking for in TES5Edit to help narrow it down?

[Zinker]

Another mod may not have released control for some reason, but there is a command for 'toggling controls' via console commands. Been a while since I last used it, but I think it was 'tc' and then it asked for 9 numbers after it, as binary (0 for no control, 1 for player control) each one for a different aspect of controlling the character. If you look up 'help control' in the console, I know it comes up. You can also use it to check which ones are currently active for you (it reads out as a string of binary numbers like before). Just set all of those to 1 and see if that helps.

 

Another possibility is script lag, but that goes along with what I said about a mod not giving control back for some reason. In which case, the script failed to fire and now you can't get control back by simply waiting for your system to catch up. But the console command should remedy that as well.

 

The other similar command that can probably help is "enableplayercontrols"

[cgod05]

Is there any way to change what the bimbo race looks like? I use adec manga and everything is a lot bigger already and then i become bimbo and its kinda dissapointing, lol. Maybe there could be a way to get the bimbo curse/mentality without changing the body period? I'm willing to dig through CK if i have to, even if i havn't had much luck with it just now trying to get it to change already. Thanks for any help in advance!

[Underscore]

Enableplayercontrols in the console gave control of my character back  to me, but the camera is  still frozen facing the spot it was in when I exit RaceMenu. I tried fast travelling to reset it, but the game gives me the warning about nearby enemies preventing that from happening. I can still seem to do anything else, such as equipping inventory, but the camera just refuses to move.

[PFK]

Hi,

I have a problem with this mod.

 

I use these "change node" mod
- Beeing Female -> (I disabled Breast scale, is managed by Milk Mod Economy)
- Milk Mod Economy -> (only breast scale)
- Estrus Chaurus -> (Breast scale disable in favor of Milk Economy)

I use hormones for Succubus and Bimbo curse and i disabled the ninode scaling option.
I use only weight options.

Now, in papyrus log I noticed these entry:

[sLH]  -- External shape change detected
[sLH]      Breast change 2.000000 from 1.000000
[sLH]      Butt change 2.000000 from 1.000000
[sLH]      Belly change 2.000000 from 1.000000
[sLH]      Schlong change 1.000000 from 1.000000
[sLH]  Updating shape on external detection.

there are no visual node changes in game and in racemenu the values is correct (1.0)
I reset the shape to original file in hormones MCM, but these values after some seconds return.

(I have the lastest XPMS Skeleton 2.82 and lastest CBBE HDT body)

 

i just installed Bestial Essence (v0.332) after the error, but i'm not sure is this the problem.

 

Edit: is not possible to use the new CBBE Racemenu Morph plugin (or UUNP Racemenu Morph plugin if you use UUNP shape) for change "hormonized" body part?

[Underscore]

After experimenting with the console, I managed to regain control of my character, but the camera still refuses to set itself back to normal. I tried both fast-travel and enabling then disabling free camera in the console, but it just locks itself right back into a position looking down at my character. I've also noticed that when free camera is enabled, the UI reappears, but it vanishes when I disable it.

[Budroi]

After experimenting with the console, I managed to regain control of my character, but the camera still refuses to set itself back to normal. I tried both fast-travel and enabling then disabling free camera in the console, but it just locks itself right back into a position looking down at my character. I've also noticed that when free camera is enabled, the UI reappears, but it vanishes when I disable it.

 

if you use Death Alternative use the MCM debug page (I think its labeled Debug or maintenance) and click the few repair buttons.

See if those help.

[Underscore]

I'm not. I have it downloaded, but I haven't enabled it in MO once yet. The only rebuild option I've tried so far is SexLab's, and that didn't seem to do anything.

[Budroi]

I'm not. I have it downloaded, but I haven't enabled it in MO once yet. The only rebuild option I've tried so far is SexLab's, and that didn't seem to do anything.

 

This might be stupid but test if you can talk to an npc and have sex.

Turn on ragdoll finish in sexlab first.

Last night I had an issue much the same after I had to pause on the "use bed" popup screen for too long (the popup sat on screen for roughly half an hour).

After the scene finished I lost most control but I was doing a house call for RP so another scene came shortly after.

Then after the ragdoll finished everything was working correctly.

[Underscore]

Yes, that seemed to do it. I had to finagle my way to staring another conversation and sex scene with Honey again, but it somehow managed to fix the issue. Weird, that's the only time I've had an issue like that, any other SexLab scene acted out the way they were supposed to.

 

Unrelated question, how many days does the full TG transformation take? Seeing my character with a detachable ghost penis is amusing, but ruins the immersion a little bit.

[Shadowscale]

Does color change work when you change it off the default colors? I think I've done at least a week or two of sex and the colors are still my default colorations.

[Guest]

I have tried to fix it on my own but I was unable to.

 

My issue is that while when I start the game I see the console message that states Hormones is installed yet even after waiting, or using 'setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1' it still does not show in the MCM menu. Yes I have gone over the requirements and updated everything even if I thought I did not need to just to be sure.

 

I see the bimbo race in the character creation screen and the quests show when I search the console for _slh.

I looked over the papyrus log and I saw the SLH was registered with the MCM menu but all other mention of SLH was all like this:

 

"Property GV_allowBimbo on script SLH_QST_BimboAlias attached to alias _SLH_REF_BimboFollowerShape04 on quest _SLH_Bimbo (DA015161) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property"

 

I re downloaded the SLH 201, slave tats and the CBBE file just incase but still get the same messages.

Here is my log just incase you want to take a look

 

I enjoy your mods and wanted to try hormones, would appreciate any help I can get to solving.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I have tried to fix it on my own but I was unable to.

 

My issue is that while when I start the game I see the console message that states Hormones is installed yet even after waiting, or using 'setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1' it still does not show in the MCM menu. Yes I have gone over the requirements and updated everything even if I thought I did not need to just to be sure.

 

I see the bimbo race in the character creation screen and the quests show when I search the console for _slh.

I looked over the papyrus log and I saw the SLH was registered with the MCM menu but all other mention of SLH was all like this:

 

"Property GV_allowBimbo on script SLH_QST_BimboAlias attached to alias _SLH_REF_BimboFollowerShape04 on quest _SLH_Bimbo (DA015161) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property"

 

I re downloaded the SLH 201, slave tats and the CBBE file just incase but still get the same messages.

Here is my log just incase you want to take a look Papyrus.0.log

 

I enjoy your mods and wanted to try hormones, would appreciate any help I can get to solving.

 

If you are starting a new game, try starting the game with Hormones disabled and enable Hormones on your first saved game.

 

Edit: Looking at the logs, you seem to have serious issues with Spouse Enhanced. 

 

[Guest]

I tried that also and still the same turn out, even loading a previous save still did not work.

 

Thank you for pointing out Spouses Enhanced

 

 

Edit: Is there supposed to be a translation.txt in the Data/Interface folder? Because the download did not come with one

 

Edit 2: Nevermind, I got it working. Managed to remove Spouses Enhanced then save clean it and it worked. Now I am not entirely sure that there was a conflict, I do have a lot of mods and that could have just released enough pressure to let it work.

 

Thank you for your help

[DeepBlueFrog]

I tried that also and still the same turn out, even loading a previous save still did not work.

 

Thank you for pointing out Spouses Enhanced

 

 

Edit: Is there supposed to be a translation.txt in the Data/Interface folder? Because the download did not come with one

 

Edit 2: Nevermind, I got it working. Managed to remove Spouses Enhanced then save clean it and it worked. Now I am not entirely sure that there was a conflict, I do have a lot of mods and that could have just released enough pressure to let it work.

 

Thank you for your help

 

You can share your load order too.. maybe there is something else at work.

 

Glad it worked...

[offnightmare]

With the SAM mod the schlong vanishes.

[DeepBlueFrog]

With the SAM mod the schlong vanishes.

SAM?

[reibushido]

SAM (Shape Atlas for Men) is a body replacer for men that uses 3 base meshes instead of the standard binary format. One is more rotund, another more muscular, and the third being closer to a normal average. You get to 'inject' a certain amount of the former two into the third to create your resulting body mesh. Because of the 3 base design, I know there was little support with armor meshes, as they would have to model it after all 3 forms, and allow the transitioning between them at the users choice. From my brief review of the mod just now, apparently that has changed quite a bit, as even TERA armors are now available to some degree in the SAM format. Most of the info on it seems to be on the Hall of Torque forum at http://www.ladymoiraine.com/forum/index.php, which seems much like loverslab actually... But b3lesario is involved in its development now, which is pretty cool.

 

Edit: On an unrelated note, I did find a method of applying other hairs to the bimbo race, but I had to modify the hair mod in particular to show up as available for bimbo exclusively. By selecting the head part (the hair specifically that you want available on bimbo), duplicating it, then edit it so available race is set to _SLH_HeadPartsBimbo, it will then be available for the bimbo race. The duplication is so that the hair is still usable on other races, and this has to be done for each hair in the mod you want. Of course, all of this is done in the CK, selecting the hair mod as the active file, and having SLH loaded as well.

 

My desire to have the nightly events of bimbo-hood, but being able to put up with the character's appearance all the while, I at least found a happy medium with getting the right hair. As for why, the tattoos and story events only seem to trigger while in the bimbo race, not because of the event. So you can't trigger "Forcibly Blonde", have the racemenu come up, and change your race back/pick something else. The quest will stay, but none of the effects will trigger. I'm sure it is also the case should you do so later on via other means (like ShowRaceMenu Alternative which can teleport you to its racemenu room by a power, or it can add scrolls to shops allowing you to teleport to that room. It always sets you back exactly where you where when you cast it.)

Actually, I would like to recommend checking that mod out, because one benefit they list is that they prevent the issue of 'leveling up' due to a change of race when the character is above level 1. The cause of it as far as I remember was the change in base stats between races resulted in the character gaining xp for those increases, thus leveling up. Not sure how they got around that issue, but aside from that, I really like the room/music that they have for it. I don't use the lore version within the mod though, since that is what distributes the scrolls to shops and it would 'negate' the bimbo quest of this mod as I previously explained. Perhaps you could find out what they did about the leveling issue workaround skyrimll? Unless everyone goes around getting turned into bimbos at lvl 1, then somehow get cured at lvl 1...